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MOVE lies about John Gilbride Part 2- Look Who's Talking

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*warning: discussion of violence, threats, and the use of a racial slur that is explained but is censored.

What happens when a cult's carefully crafted narrative faces public scrutiny? The answer lies in this shocking exploration of MOVE's 2005 radio appearance and their confrontation with America's Most Wanted five years later.
Following Fox 29's coverage of John Gilbride's unsolved murder, MOVE members secured two hours of airtime on Philadelphia's WURD Radio. What unfolded wasn't a defense or clarification—it was a masterclass in manipulation tactics. Through strategic deflection, character assassination, and veiled threats, they demonstrated exactly how high-control groups maintain their grip on both members and public perception.
The broadcast reveals multiple layers of MOVE's operational playbook. When former MOVE member Tony Allen calls in to ask what happened to John Gilbride, he's immediately attacked as "nobody" and "a cop"—classic dehumanization techniques designed to silence dissent.

Tony Allen's Defector Blog

Meanwhile, Gary Wonderlin (who married MOVE leader Alberta weeks after John's murder) calls in under an alias, and it seems that pretending to be someone else is kind of his "thing".
Most revealing is what happened in 2010 when America's Most Wanted was producing an episode about Gilbride's murder and was seeking comment from Alberta and MOVE - a profanity-laden confrontation captured by multiple cameras that ended in a racial slur.
This pattern of deflection, intimidation, and narrative control isn't random—it's calculated. By examining these tactics through the lens of cult psychology, we gain crucial insight into how MOVE has avoided accountability for decades while simultaneously portraying themselves as victims.
For those seeking the truth about John Gilbride's unsolved murder, this episode provides essential context for understanding why this case remains open. The question remains: if MOVE truly had nothing to hide, why go to such extraordinary lengths to shut down legitimate questions about the murder of someone they knew very well?

If you have any information about the John Gilbride unsolved homicide case , The Burlington County Prosecutor's Office tip line email is [email protected]. This email address can be used to report information about a crime or incident. Additionally, you can reach the office through their website, burlpros.org, or contact the Victim Witness Unit at 609.265.5048.

We love hearing from you so text us here or reach out on social media. Thanks for listening.

The producers of this podcast wish to stress that all individuals reference in this series are presumed innocent unless or until they are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law in the United States of America.

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Executive Produced, reported, hosted, and edited by Beth McNamara
Additional research by Robert Helms
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All individuals referenced in this podcast are presumed to be innocent unless or until they are found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a United States court of law.

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Chapters

1. MOVE's Radio Response to Fox 29 (00:00:00)

2. Gary Wonderland's Multiple Identities (00:06:56)

3. MOVE's Children: Deflection Tactics (00:15:16)

4. Tony Allen's Confrontation Call (00:22:47)

5. America's Most Wanted Showdown (00:33:05)

6. Truth Wins: Closing Thoughts (00:43:25)

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*warning: discussion of violence, threats, and the use of a racial slur that is explained but is censored.

What happens when a cult's carefully crafted narrative faces public scrutiny? The answer lies in this shocking exploration of MOVE's 2005 radio appearance and their confrontation with America's Most Wanted five years later.
Following Fox 29's coverage of John Gilbride's unsolved murder, MOVE members secured two hours of airtime on Philadelphia's WURD Radio. What unfolded wasn't a defense or clarification—it was a masterclass in manipulation tactics. Through strategic deflection, character assassination, and veiled threats, they demonstrated exactly how high-control groups maintain their grip on both members and public perception.
The broadcast reveals multiple layers of MOVE's operational playbook. When former MOVE member Tony Allen calls in to ask what happened to John Gilbride, he's immediately attacked as "nobody" and "a cop"—classic dehumanization techniques designed to silence dissent.

Tony Allen's Defector Blog

Meanwhile, Gary Wonderlin (who married MOVE leader Alberta weeks after John's murder) calls in under an alias, and it seems that pretending to be someone else is kind of his "thing".
Most revealing is what happened in 2010 when America's Most Wanted was producing an episode about Gilbride's murder and was seeking comment from Alberta and MOVE - a profanity-laden confrontation captured by multiple cameras that ended in a racial slur.
This pattern of deflection, intimidation, and narrative control isn't random—it's calculated. By examining these tactics through the lens of cult psychology, we gain crucial insight into how MOVE has avoided accountability for decades while simultaneously portraying themselves as victims.
For those seeking the truth about John Gilbride's unsolved murder, this episode provides essential context for understanding why this case remains open. The question remains: if MOVE truly had nothing to hide, why go to such extraordinary lengths to shut down legitimate questions about the murder of someone they knew very well?

If you have any information about the John Gilbride unsolved homicide case , The Burlington County Prosecutor's Office tip line email is [email protected]. This email address can be used to report information about a crime or incident. Additionally, you can reach the office through their website, burlpros.org, or contact the Victim Witness Unit at 609.265.5048.

We love hearing from you so text us here or reach out on social media. Thanks for listening.

The producers of this podcast wish to stress that all individuals reference in this series are presumed innocent unless or until they are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law in the United States of America.

Support the show

Executive Produced, reported, hosted, and edited by Beth McNamara
Additional research by Robert Helms
Murder At Ryan's Run
Instagram
Facebook Page
Podcast Press

If you have questions, comments, tips, or media inquiries, please reach out on social media or via email: [email protected]
All individuals referenced in this podcast are presumed to be innocent unless or until they are found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a United States court of law.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. MOVE's Radio Response to Fox 29 (00:00:00)

2. Gary Wonderland's Multiple Identities (00:06:56)

3. MOVE's Children: Deflection Tactics (00:15:16)

4. Tony Allen's Confrontation Call (00:22:47)

5. America's Most Wanted Showdown (00:33:05)

6. Truth Wins: Closing Thoughts (00:43:25)

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