It’s Time to Try Empathetic Leadership with Jacinda Ardern

My So-Called Midlife with Reshma Saujani

Reshma interviews former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern live on stage about her new book, A Different Kind of Power! This thoughtful conversation covers Jacinda’s leadership style built on compassion and kindness, becoming a mom while in office, and how to navigate self-doubt and imposter syndrome without letting them define you. Plus, Jacinda discusses her difficult decision to resign at the height of her power and shares what’s giving her hope right now.

This program was recorded live at the Chicago Humanities 2025 Spring Festival on June 8, 2025.

Event produced by Jesse Swanson.

Associate produced by Nikki Konomos.

Event stage managed by Sophia Fishkins.

Event produced and mixed by Dan Glomski.

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