#83 - Cody Keenan - Wonderful Struggle

Passing The Torch with Martin Foster

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Meet Cody Keenan—best known as President Barack Obama’s longtime speechwriter and author of the bestseller "Grace."

The conversation covers Cody’s career journey, from his early days working for Senator Ted Kennedy, to his rise as White House Chief Speechwriter, and beyond. Martin opens with humor and heartfelt admiration for Cody’s work, setting a warm, conversational tone.

Additionally, the episode touches on the creative process behind presidential speechwriting: the intense collaboration, the immense pressure, and the quest for authenticity in political messaging. Cody reflects on some of the standout speeches he’s helped create, like the Selma anniversary address, and discusses the value of hope, optimism, and candor when writing for the public.

He also gives practical advice to aspiring speechwriters, stressing the importance of clear, conversational language and the dangers of becoming too lofty or detached from everyday people. Personal reflections, pop culture references, and “nerd outs” about superheroes give the episode an accessible, engaging feel.

Throughout, Cody and Martin discuss the importance of public service, the shifting nature of media and public discourse, and the power of storytelling to forge a common, uplifting narrative. They close with mutual appreciation and Cody’s advice to the next generation: be less cynical, invest in hope, and don’t be afraid to fail if you’re striving to make things better.

Overall, this episode balances behind-the-scenes political insight with relatable and inspiring life lessons, making it a compelling listen whether you’re a fan of politics, writing, or personal growth.

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Time Codes:

00:00 Cody's Notable Speeches and Appearances

05:10 Exclusive Interview Highlights

07:50 Oval Office Basement Stress Reflections

10:46 Legacy of War Silence

14:45 Meeting Presidents & Speechwriting Insights

15:41 Anonymity's Decline in Public Service

21:44 "Obama's Skill: Crafting Resonant Narratives"

23:53 Delayed Visit and Unifying Narratives

28:29 Envy of White House Advance Team

31:16 Visualizing Success Through Preparation

35:10 Moonshot Optimism

38:31 "Perseverance and Impactful Living"

39:11 "Milestone Gratitude Acknowledgment"

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Chapters

1. Cody's Notable Speeches and Appearances (00:00:00)

2. Exclusive Interview Highlights (00:05:10)

3. Oval Office Basement Stress Reflections (00:07:50)

4. Legacy of War Silence (00:10:46)

5. Meeting Presidents & Speechwriting Insights (00:14:45)

6. "Obama's Skill: Crafting Resonant Narratives" (00:21:44)

7. Delayed Visit and Unifying Narratives (00:23:53)

8. Envy of White House Advance Team (00:28:29)

9. Visualizing Success Through Preparation (00:31:16)

10. Moonshot Optimism (00:35:10)

11. "Perseverance and Impactful Living" (00:38:31)