#175 - Charlie Marsh on Ruff, uv and designing fast + ergonomic Python tooling

Pybites Podcast

Who isn’t using Ruff for its blazing speed? Who hasn’t yet tried uv to make project management seamless and fast?
What goes into building these tools, managing their increasing popularity + community of adopters?
Hear from the creator himself, Charlie Marsh, as he shares insights on designing fast, ergonomic Python tooling that elevates the developer experience. 😍 📈
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:45 Charlie's background
03:32 2 reasons to work on new Python tooling
07:10 Inspiration from Rust / Cargo
11:00 Thinking about software design (uv)
15:00 uv's two use cases (low vs high level)
17:15 Balancing feedback vs roadmap while being nice
23:00 How shipping evolved
24:28 Managing open source + quality / testing tooling
32:31 Pybites coaching ad segment
32:57 Astral's vision / what's coming (type checking 🎉)
37:50 Support Conda? uv can be embedded
39:53 What helped you to learn Rust (build!)
45:25 Book tip, CTA and how to reach out
49:12 Wrap / outro
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Chapters

1. Intro (00:00:00)

2. Charlie's background (00:01:45)

3. 2 reasons to work on new Python tooling (00:03:32)

4. Inspiration from Rust / Cargo (00:07:10)

5. Thinking about software design (uv) (00:11:00)

6. uv's two use cases (low vs high level) (00:15:00)

7. Balancing feedback vs roadmap while being nice (00:17:15)

8. How shipping evolved (00:23:00)

9. Managing open source + quality / testing tooling (00:24:28)

10. PDM ad segment (00:32:31)

11. Astral's vision / what's coming (type checking 🎉) (00:32:57)

12. Support Conda? uv can be embedded (00:37:50)

13. What helped you to learn Rust (build!) (00:39:53)

14. Book tip, CTA and how to reach out (00:45:25)

15. Wrap / outro (00:49:12)