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S2 Ep792: PASSION STRUCK w/John R. Miles: Kass and Mike Lazerow on Why Building Big Requires Feeling Deep
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Kass and Mike Lazerow on Why Building Big Requires Feeling Deep
What if the real story behind a $745 million exit wasn’t just the pitch decks, product-market fit, or funding rounds, but the emotional toll it took to get there? In this episode of Passion Struck, I sit down with serial entrepreneurs Kass and Mike Lazerow for a brutally honest conversation about the unseen side of building big. Their new book, Shoveling Sh!t: A Love Story About the Entrepreneur’s Messy Path to Success, doesn’t just pull back the curtain—it tears it down. Kass and Mike built and sold Buddy Media to Salesforce for nearly three-quarters of a billion dollars. They raised three kids. They battled cancer four times. And through it all, they remained partners not just in business, but in life. But what they share here goes deeper than strategy. It’s about identity, ego, and the emotional labor most entrepreneurs never talk about. Kass opens up about the moment she asked Mike to fire her—and how that decision reshaped not just their roles, but their relationship. Mike reflects on the trap of performative leadership and how success often masks burnout and disconnection. Together, they challenge the myth of the fearless founder and offer a radically different lens: that scaling something meaningful requires not less feeling, but more. More emotional awareness. More humility. More self-inquiry. And a willingness to be seen in the mess.
Want to learn the 12 philosophies that the most successful people use to create a limitless life? Order John R. Miles’s new book, Passion Struck: Twelve Powerful Principles to Unlock Your Purpose and Ignite Your Most Intentional Life. John Miles, author of Passion Struck and a motivational speaker, appears on Radiostpete.com every Sunday @ 1:10 pm. Passion Struck, has been recognized as a winner in the 21st annual "Best Book" Awards sponsored by the American Book Fest in three categories: Business: Motivational, Nonfiction: General, Young Adult: Nonfiction
More Passion Struck Episodes here: https://audioboom.com/channels/1842136-tampa-bay-podcast-archive?search=%23passionstruck
#johnrmiles #passionstruck #livelifebetter #author #tampabay #radio #radiostpete #ignitedlife
Want to learn the 12 philosophies that the most successful people use to create a limitless life? Order John R. Miles’s new book, Passion Struck: Twelve Powerful Principles to Unlock Your Purpose and Ignite Your Most Intentional Life. John Miles, author of Passion Struck and a motivational speaker, appears on Radiostpete.com every Sunday @ 1:10 pm. Passion Struck, has been recognized as a winner in the 21st annual "Best Book" Awards sponsored by the American Book Fest in three categories: Business: Motivational, Nonfiction: General, Young Adult: Nonfiction
More Passion Struck Episodes here: https://audioboom.com/channels/1842136-tampa-bay-podcast-archive?search=%23passionstruck
#johnrmiles #passionstruck #livelifebetter #author #tampabay #radio #radiostpete #ignitedlife
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