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Today's guest is Salvatore Sanfilippo, also known as Antirez!Salvatore is the creator of Redis, an open source data store used by hundreds of thousands of developers across the world. And he's also a writer. He published the popular sci-fi novel called Wohpe, which anticipated a lot of what is happening today with AI.With Salvatore, we talked about open source — what makes a project successful and how to make it successful for its maintainers. Then we discussed how Salvatore uses AI for extremely complex coding, which makes him 5x faster than without AI. And finally, I asked him about his writing work and what is the experience of writing a novel versus a software project.02:55 Introduction06:47 Salvatore's life priorities12:40 Develop an open source project in 2025 18:14 Being a generalist with AI support19:25 Making an open source project sustainable23:54 Complexity of modern front-end development24:58 Big Tech, complexity and open source30:19 Escaping the complexity loop33:40 The rebirth of fullstack through AI34:53 How Salvatore creates code with AI41:16 Does AI increase code productivity?44:14 The importance of the right prompt47:06 Writing tests in the AI era of development50:49 Whope, Salvatore's sci-fi novel53:28 Writing a novel and writing code—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—Some show notes:• Salvatore's website: https://antirez.com/• Salvatore's Youtube: / @antirez • Wohpe: / wohpe —You can also find this at:
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1 Measuring and Improving Developer Experience 📊 — with Abi Noda 42:58
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Abi Noda , the CEO and founder of DX, one of the leading engineering intelligence platforms.With Abi, we talked about measuring developer experience. We started with the early days of Accelerate and why we feel like most people got the book wrong. And then we continued to present days and how research focuses on driving great developer experience. And finally, we couldn't avoid talking about AI and why it seems to be a game changer for entrepreneurs, but not so much for teams yet.01:23 Introduction02:45 Abi's journey in tech08:19 The four key metrics10:41 Metrics' reliability13:41 Diagnostic metrics16:06 A metric analogy18:23 Find productivy metrics drive22:03 What makes a developer experience good?29:44 The importance of comparison31:53 Common issues in developer experience34:55 Are meetings bad?36:16 AI in development process—This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Open-source, complexity & AI coding 🔧 — with Salvatore "Antirez" Sanfilippo 57:09
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Salvatore Sanfilippo , also known as Antirez !Salvatore is the creator of Redis, an open source data store used by hundreds of thousands of developers across the world. And he's also a writer. He published the popular sci-fi novel called Wohpe, which anticipated a lot of what is happening today with AI.With Salvatore, we talked about open source — what makes a project successful and how to make it successful for its maintainers. Then we discussed how Salvatore uses AI for extremely complex coding, which makes him 5x faster than without AI. And finally, I asked him about his writing work and what is the experience of writing a novel versus a software project. 02:55 Introduction 06:47 Salvatore's life priorities 12:40 Develop an open source project in 2025 18:14 Being a generalist with AI support 19:25 Making an open source project sustainable 23:54 Complexity of modern front-end development 24:58 Big Tech, complexity and open source 30:19 Escaping the complexity loop 33:40 The rebirth of fullstack through AI 34:53 How Salvatore creates code with AI 41:16 Does AI increase code productivity? 44:14 The importance of the right prompt 47:06 Writing tests in the AI era of development 50:49 Whope, Salvatore's sci-fi novel 53:28 Writing a novel and writing code—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com —Some show notes:• Salvatore's website: https://antirez.com/ • Salvatore's Youtube: / @antirez • Wohpe: / wohpe —You can also find this at: 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d... 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... —For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 How to Coach CTOs 👑 — with Joel Chippindale 44:38
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Joel Chippindale !Joel is a full-time CTO Coach and one of the coaches-in-residence in the Refactoring community, where he runs monthly mastermind sessions and other community events.So with Joel, we dived into what coaching is, the difference with mentoring, one-on-one versus group coaching, and what are the top challenges that CTO faces today, based on the work that Joel does with his coaches.02:34 Introduction03:40 Joel's journey in tech05:21 Finding a definition of coaching07:25 Mentoring and coaching roles10:22 One-to-on and group coaching12:53 The "hows" of coaching15:12 Is coaching a widespread practice?18:35 Top CTOs challenges21:43 Right support for right challenges26:08 Advocating for technical work31:53 Commonalities and uniquenesses in CTOs challenges34:20 The platonic ideal of CTO36:49 Choosing what to focus on39:48 How to delegate properly — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com — You can also find this at: - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 The Future of Creative Organizations ✏️ — with Dan Shipper 48:27
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Dan Shipper !Dan is the CEO and founder of Every, which is one of the world's most popular publications, writing about AI and our relationship with technology. And Dan is one of my heroes. His newsletter was the first I ever paid for on Substack, and single-handedly inspired me to start Refactoring. But he doesn't know. I will tell him during the interview and you will see what he says. So with Dan, we'll talk about the boundaries blurring between product development and content creation, the role of generalists, entrepreneurs, and how his team builds software with AI. And spoiler alert, AI writes 90% of their code.03:08 Introduction06:42 Every and Dan's journey in tech12:56 From writer to CEO16:20 The importance of delegating18:01 What you want vs what people want21:06 Stick to yourself24:38 Playing the long game27:02 AI and content creation31:05 Approaching the use of AI36:29 Finding new workflows with AI39:03 More an AI generated code40:35 A new skillset for engineers42:44 More on the new engineering role44:45 The next AI assisted leaps — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com — You can also find this at: - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Combining AI and Human Work 🤖 — with Marco Trombetti 1:07:43
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Marco Trombetti !Marco is the CEO and founder of Translated, one of the largest translation companies in the world, powering translations for the likes of Airbnb, Uber, Skyscanner, and more.Translated is also an AI pioneer. It has developed its own models for more than 20 years and has recently released the most advanced translation LLM in the world.With Marco, we talked about the future of AI, combining AI and human work and the role of regulation. This is also the first interview we ever did in person. But as you will see and hear, I was recovering from a bad cough and had a bit of a low voice, hope you don't mind.(00:03:26) Introduction(00:05:45) The history of Translated(00:09:51) The use of transformers(00:12:47) Lara: the most advanced translation AI(00:17:51) The next step in AI models(00:24:01) The "Lara gap"(00:28:50) The real cost of training Lara(00:32:39) AI impact on human work in translation(00:41:16) Applying the Translated model in other fields(00:45:21) Concerns in AI applications(00:53:51) More on AI regulation(00:56:15) The state of AI startups(00:59:25) Understanding the AI game(01:03:31) AI and regular jobs—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—You can also find this at:- 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm- 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 User-experience, Local-first apps and dev tools 🔧 — with Adam Wiggins 48:36
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Adam Wiggins ! Adam is the General Manager of Platform at The Browser Company and co-founder of Heroku. With Adam, we talked about innovating user experience in software and AI, we discussed what Local-first software means and we explored the future of developer tools. (02:49) Introduction (04:01) Adam's journey in tech (06:15) The rise of developer experience (10:03) The constant drive of improving UX (12:07) Dia & The Browser Company (14:49) Using AI to improve UX (20:38) Unlocking potentials through UX (25:18) Local-first software (32:34) Data ownership (34:31) Web development and complexity (38:03) AI and the future of development (40:25) The iteration loop — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com — You can also find this at: - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Growing the development forest 🌲 — with Martin Fowler 1:00:08
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Martin Fowler ! Martin is chief scientist at ThoughtWorks. He is one of the original signatories of the Agile Manifesto and author of several legendary books, among which there is Refactoring, which shares the name with this podcast and this newsletter. With Martin, we talked about the impact of AI on software development, from the development process to how human learning and understanding changes up to the future of software engineering jobs. Then we explored the technical debt metaphor, why it has been so successful, and Martin's own advice on dealing with it. And finally, we talked about the state of Agile, the resistance that still exists today towards many Agile practices and how to measure engineering effectiveness. (03:29) Introduction (05:20) Development cycle with AI (08:36) Less control and reduced learning (13:11) Splitting task between Human and AI (14:48) The skills shift (20:17) Betting on new technologies (27:22) Martin's Refactoring and technical debt (29:24) Accumulating "cruft" (33:14) Dealing with "cruft" (37:24) The financial value of refactoring (42:04) Measuring performances (46:19) Why the "forest" didn't spread (56:11) Make the forest appealing — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com — You can also find this at: - 📬 Newsletter : https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify : https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Profitable Engineering 🛠️ — with Aviv Ben Josef 58:53
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Aviv Ben Josef ! Aviv has more than 20 years of experience in tech. He is an executive coach working with hundreds of engineering teams and leaders. With Aviv, we talked about profitable engineering, what makes engineering valuable, why impact is hard to measure,and what are the cultural and organizational traits that make engineering teams successful. (01:43) Introduction (02:20) Aviv’s journey into tech (05:57) From tech to consulting (08:12) Less coding, more coaching (11:42) Profitable engineering (15:11) What unprofitable engineering looks like (17:33) Other engineering dysfunctions (20:49) Why is engineering still perceived as a cost (27:23) Switch your approach (32:48) Intentional learning (38:29) Meta retros: connecting engineers and product (45:31) Set your goals (48:27) Product engineering in today’s framework (53:28) The AI influence on teamwork — This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io — You can also find this at: - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 The Evolution of Engineering Management 👑 — with Pat Kua 53:11
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Pat Kua ! Pat is a professional engineering and leadership coach with more than 20 years of experience in tech. He was CTO of N26 and principal consultant at ThoughtWorks. He is an accomplished speaker and writes an awesome newsletter for tech leaders called Level Up. With Pat, we talked about his journey in tech, from Australia to London to Berlin. We talked about the future of engineering management and technical leadership and the ever controversial founder mode. Here is what we talked about: (02:17) Introduction (03:05) Pat's journey in tech (12:17) Engineering management evolution (18:27) Balancing people and tech management (21:55) The paybacks of a good management (25:25) System thinking in people's management (28:39) Finding the balance in hybrid roles (31:52) The foundation skill (37:42) About Paul Graham's essay (45:22) The maker vs multiplier framework (48:15) The evolution of practices in tech — This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io — You can also find this at: - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Career frameworks for Engineers and Managers 🪜 — with Francesco Dominidiato 1:09:17
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Francesco Dominidiato ! Francesco Dominidiato is CTO at Moneyfarm, one of the largest wealth management companies in Europe, and former CTO at high-growth startups like Casavo and Docebo. During his career he scaled organizations from zero to hundreds of employees, and has incredible experience at all levels: from leading small teams to NASDAQ-listed companies. With Francesco, we talked about career frameworks, how to create a path that creates opportunities for both individual contributors and managers, how to address career development issues, organizational debt and more. Here is what we talked about: (02:09) Introduction (03:07) Francesco's journey in tech (06:57) Today's industry direction (18:17) A path for all careers (23:36) Salary range & defining roles (34:24) The cost of organizational debt (41:10) Evolving the career framework (53:35) Scaling the ladders (57:02) Tricky roles (01:04:21) The path of engineering career — This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io — You can also find this at: - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Technical Storytelling at Google ✏️ — with Stephanie Wong 52:17
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Stephanie Wong ! Stephanie is the Head of Technical Marketing at Google Cloud, where she blends storytelling and technology to inspire developers and build customer growth. She’s an award-winning host, global keynote speaker, and creator of viral tech content. With Stephanie, we talked about her journey from sales to content creation to product management and generative AI. We talked about technical storytelling, how to craft great stories around technical products. And finally we discussed product management for generative AI and the challenges of driving adoption for AI products. Here is what we talked about: (01:58) Introduction (02:52) Stephanie's journey into tech (07:31) Pioneering content creation for tech (10:05) Learning through experience (13:17) How to tell a tech story (16:47) Branding and content creation (23:12) How to improve your storytelling (28:28) Finding the way to grow (34:11) "Get the ball rolling!" (41:40) Content creation and product management (44:20) AI's role in today's tech — You can also find this at: 📬 Newsletter 📺 Youtube 📱 Apple — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Communication Engineering 💬 — with Pramoda Vyasarao 1:01:09
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Pramoda Vyasarao ! Pramoda is a leadership and communication coach, he has 20+ years of experience in big tech, wrote the book “Beyond Your Limits”, and runs a course called Communication Engineering With Pramoda, we will talk about what good communication looks like, especially for engineers and managers, how it impacted his career and the career of the leaders he helps. Here is what we talked about: (02:05) Introduction (02:51) The Toastmasters Club (07:12) Engineering Communication issues (10:18) Communication through Pramoda's career (13:28) The TALL framework (19:11) Evaluation vs Information (20:44) The TALL framework: Asking (34:19) The GROW model (36:18) The TALL framework: Listening (38:05) The Path to action (46:04) From feelings to facts (50:38) The TALL framework: Leadership (53:51) Get a coach! (55:28) Mentoring vs Coaching (58:39) Beyond your Limits: a look on Pramoda's work Learn more about Pramoda's work: Communication Engineering course: https://www.changesmith.me/communication Beyond Your Limits book: Amazon — You can also find this at: 📬 Newsletter 📺 Youtube 📱 Apple — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Founder Mode & The Manager’s Path 👑 — with Camille Fournier 58:50
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Camille Fournier ! Camille is an accomplished CTO and executive with 20+ years of experience in tech, and author of the timeless The Manager’s Path, possibly the most influential book ever about engineering management. With Camille we talked about good vs bad management, the controversial new founder mode, career advice for managers and her next book about platform engineering. Here is what we talked about: (02:01) Introduction (03:51) About the founder mode (11:46) Good weed, bad weeds (17:49) Finding "the formula" (21:24) Managing at different levels (28:03) The identity war (32:55) The staples of management (39:53) Having a strong opinion (43:21) Staying valuable (49:53) Keep your skills valuable (55:15) Platform engineering — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: 📬 Newsletter 📺 Youtube 📱 Apple — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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Today's guest is David Heinemeier Hansson ! David is the creator of Rails, co-founder & CTO of Basecamp, a NYT bestselling author, and professional racing driver for 10+ years! In our chat, we explored many of David's strong opinions on software development, including today's excessive complexity in software and infrastructure, the role of AI, and the future of open source. We also talked about his racing and how he approaches learning any topic from scratch. Here is what we talked about: (02:20) Introduction (03:42) Merchants of Complexity (13:19) Innovating the dev experience (21:53) Complexity in small projects (28:14) Incentives hurt open source (32:49) Subscription vs ONCE (35:24) David and AI (47:27) Using AI as training wheels (49:42) The art of learning — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: 📬 Newsletter 📺 Youtube 📱 Apple — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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1 Continuous Coordination 🔀 — with Henry Poydar 52:52
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday's guest is Henry Poydar ! Henry is CEO and founder at Steady, with more than 25 years of experience in tech leadership roles. With Henry, we talked about continuous coordination, an open source framework he co-created, providing a set of principles and practices for running modern, effective engineering teams. Here is what we talked about: (01:25) Introduction (02:25) Henry's Career (13:23) Create async communication (16:47) Keeping a steady beat (23:02) Define a necessary meeting (26:00) The proper alignment (30:58) Applying continuous coordination (37:06) Discovering how your team works (38:38) Managing in the AI era (44:27) How remote can improve working (48:20) How AI is affecting team work — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: 📬 Newsletter 📺 Youtube 📱 Apple — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club…
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Leading Up is a top-ranking leadership podcast to help you work, lead, and live differently. In Season 7, we’ll shine a light on storytelling, and how it can help aspiring leaders communicate better. Alan Todd, VP of Leadership Development at Udemy, sits down with some of the most thoughtful and exciting leaders, practitioners, and thinkers. Together, we’ll help you unlock your potential and become an even better leader. New episodes drop every Wednesday, so be sure to follow the podcast to ...
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The Partnership Economy explores the power of partnerships through candid conversations and stories with industry leaders. Our hosts, David A. Yovanno, CEO and Todd Crawford, Co-founder, of impact.com, unpack the future of partnerships as a lever for scale and an opportunity to put the consumer first.
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Welcome to the What’s Next! Podcast. I’ve met so many brilliant people as I traveled the globe and have had some fascinating conversations that I’ve wished had been recorded so I could share them with you - this podcast was a way for me to recreate those moments and let you in on some fantastic insights. My current conversations center around one objective: what's next for companies and individuals as they look to innovate and grow. I hope these conversations inspire you as much as they have ...
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A top podcast for healthcare leaders, with over one million downloads, Radio Advisory is your weekly download on how to untangle the industry's most pressing challenges to help leaders like you make the best business decisions for your organization. From unpacking major trends in care delivery—like site-of-care shifts and the rise of high-cost drugs—to demystifying stakeholder dynamics, to shining a spotlight on priorities that may get overlooked, we're here to help. Our hosts and seasoned r ...
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Wharton faculty and industry leaders discuss their latest research, books, and relevant business topics. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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