The One Who Went From Conservative To Contemplative

Beyond The Surface

In this episode, we hear Joel’s story of growing up queer within the weight of conservative evangelical beliefs while slowly finding refuge in contemplative forms of Christianity. He shares his journey from internal conflict and suppression to a life where both his faith and sexuality are fully embraced. We talk about the emotional and mental toll of hiding parts of yourself, the challenges of coming out in religious spaces, and the quiet power of being known. Joel’s reflections on authenticity, connection, and spiritual depth offer hope for anyone walking the long road of integration and healing.

Who is Joel?

Dr. Joel Hollier is a theologian, pastor, researcher and educator whose work sits at the crossroads of faith, sexuality, and inclusion. With a background in pastoral ministry, he brings a nuanced understanding of theology, guided by empathy and scholarly depth. Joel engages diverse communities with an open heart, addressing the harm caused by exclusionary religious practices and doctrines. His writing, teaching, and mentoring empower others to embrace a more expansive, affirming spirituality. By fostering dialogue, he helps people reclaim their narratives and find belonging in spaces once marked by judgment or fear.

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