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Why Public Sector Change Is a Masterclass in Complexity
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Public sector leaders are quietly mastering the kind of complex, human-centered change most businesses struggle to get right.
Maartje van Krieken is joined by Vijay K. Luthra, a former civil servant and transformation strategist, to talk about why public sector transformation deserves more attention from business leaders facing turbulence. Vijay draws from his experience across government and consulting to challenge assumptions about innovation, revealing how public institutions have become experts at navigating constant disruption and ambiguity. Centered on what he calls the “Fifth Industrial Revolution,” the episode explores how the pace of technological change is creating a future where opportunity is increasingly uneven, especially for workers in vulnerable or transactional roles.
The discussion touches on the psychological and cultural dimensions of large-scale change, and focuses on human-centered change that prioritizes long-term outcomes over short-term savings. Vijay explains how reform efforts, particularly in systems like healthcare, fail when they ignore the needs of both service users and frontline workers. He also offers a look at the emotional toll of poorly managed transformation and the importance of building psychological safety within organizations. From the NHS to digital strategy, Vijay makes a case that the public sector offers valuable lessons in resilience and complexity in leadership that today’s business world can’t afford to overlook.
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Why the Public Sector Might Be Ahead on Complexity
01:53 Chaos in Government and What It Reveals About Leadership
04:33 The Fifth Industrial Revolution and Shrinking Opportunity
07:00 Automation in Government and the Future of Work
10:09 What Human-Centered Change Really Requires
12:08 Why Long-Term Outcomes Matter More Than Cost Cutting
14:47 How to Prepare Teams for Technology Transformation
20:04 The Emotional Toll of Looming Change Projects
23:13 Why Behavior Change Is Essential in Public Sector Reform
25:08 Balancing Running the Business with Changing the Business
26:21 Lessons Business Leaders Can Learn from the Public Sector
28:26 Creating a Strategic Digital Center for Change Readiness
Links
Connect with Vijay K. Luthra:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/vijaykluthra/
Vijay K. Luthra is a strategic advisor specializing in human-centered transformation for public services. A former Civil Servant and Chartered Management Consultant, he’s worked with PwC, PA Consulting, and Capita, advising senior leaders across the NHS, Ministry of Defence, Department for Education, and local government. His notable work includes helping establish Greater Manchester’s devolved health system, leading national reforms, and contributing to Saudi Arabia’s Vision 2030. A renal transplant recipient and neurodiversity advocate, Vijay also supports Kidney Research UK and Great Ormond Street Hospital Charity. He holds an MSc from King’s College London and serves as an Associate NED in the NHS.
Connect with Maartje van Krieken:
https://www.thechaosgamesconsulting.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartje/
https://maartjeturnschaosaround.substack.com/
Host Maartje van Krieken is a crisis strategist and decision-making expert who thrives in high-stakes business environments. Combining disaster management training, hands-on experience in global industries, and leadership skills honed as a seasoned sailor, she helps businesses navigate chaos with precision. Whether tackling transformation, scaling challenges, or leadership bottlenecks, Maartje delivers actionable insights to turn turbulence into traction.
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