**SPECIAL** The Genius of the "AND" with Shaina Zavala | Part 4

Sidewalk Conversations

**Join us for the conclusion of our summer series of conversations with Shaina and Piet about the genius of the "and." We have enjoyed sharing this 4-part discussion with you AND getting ready for the launch of season 4 of Sidewalk Conversations in just a few weeks! If you enjoy these episodes and want to check out all of the things Piet is working on, head on over to the Piet Van Waarde channel on Youtube.**

Today, we explore the tension in church services between reaching believers and non-believers, discussing how the "power of AND" creates inclusive experiences that meet everyone where they are on their spiritual journey.
• Challenging the false dichotomy that forces church leaders to choose between ministering to Christians or reaching newcomers
• Using secular music and pop culture references to illustrate gospel truths while maintaining theological integrity
• Examining the Moana song "I've crossed the horizon to find you" as a powerful metaphor for Jesus's love
• Considering whether it's acceptable to occasionally alienate the "99" to effectively reach the "1" who is seeking
• Designing messages that start with the questions of the unconvinced while addressing deeper issues believers might not have resolved
• Recognizing how Jesus himself embodied the "AND" throughout his ministry and even on the cross
• Implementing the power of "AND" in daily life to improve mental health and create healthier perspectives
Start incorporating the genius of the word "AND" in your vocabulary today and see how it transforms your approach to faith, leadership, and everyday challenges.

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Chapters

1. Tension in Church Service Planning (00:00:00)

2. Mixing Sacred and Secular Music (00:01:32)

3. Using Movies to Illustrate Gospel (00:03:56)

4. Offending the 99 for the One (00:05:21)

5. Messages That Reach Everyone (00:07:38)

6. Jesus Living in the "And" (00:09:30)