Ep. 222 - It's been a whole year, but Talking Heads is back at Beaulieu for their annual outing at BBC Gardeners World Spring Fair - leading tours and running workshops - its one of the most enjoyable parts of the year!

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Spring is the time of the gardening year where all gardeners sigh with relief, it's really time to get out and about and enjoy the wonderful world of horticulture. A garden waking up and showing its early colour and form is a wonderful space to live and work in, an it's no exception that Lucy and Saul revel in this time of year, as their gardening lives start to get busier with sowing, planting, propagation, mowing, mulching and all other gardening tasks. Sprinkle in some early flower shows and the odd plant fair and our gardening life is complete, so thank god for Spring!
A favourite annual fixture in their diaries, Lucy and Saul report back from the recent BBC Gardeners' World Spring Fair, held at the beautiful gardens of Beaulieu in the New Forest. This year the Talking Heads duo have had the pleasure of giving their usual Plant Expert tours with Head Gardener, Kelvin Yapp, and former gardener, Dan Blaney - but also giving workshops on Seed Sowing, Houseplants and Grow our Own! As ever the Beaulieu garden gang have been consummate hosts - and for the first time this year we've even had the back-up and incredible plant knowledge of Tamsin Westhorpe - the newest member of the plant expert cadre!
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Ep. 222 - It's been a whole year, but Talking Heads is back at Beaulieu for their annual outing at BBC Gardeners World Spring Fair - leading tours and running workshops - its one of the most enjoyable parts of the year!

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Ep. 263 - For the fifth year running Lucy and Saul are at BBC Gardeners World Spring Fair at the beautiful Beulieu in the New Forest - the pair are giving their usual Plant Expert Tours, selling… 32:27

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! Now a fixture on Saul and Lucy's calender - the BBC Gardeners World Spring Fair is somehting the pair look forward to every year, especially as it is a chance to catch up with the wonderful garden team at Beaulieu and see what delights catch our eyes in the Ornamental and Kitchen Gardens. Alice in Wonderland is a definite theme this year - not only does the gardens have some very detailed Topiary Mad Hatters, but also the best of the Beautiful Borders had a Tea Party theme as well - congratulations to Jonathan and Bryony . Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens LinkedIn link : Saul Walker Support the show…

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Ep. 262 - Anyone for tennis? Saul has finally resolved his conundrum of how to clean up Stoneland's tennis court, while Lucy has been taking in the sights and sounds of a glorious Essex spring 37:56

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! While Lucy has had a fortnight of family 'fun', Saul has been hot-footing it up and down the country in the name of professional horticultural development. He even admits that his beloved Devonshire isn't the only beautiful county in the UK - high praise indeed, Yourshireans! Meanwhile in Essex, Lucy has been relying upon the therapeutic powers of gardening and phenology to keep her mind firmly focused on beautiful things - from returning sand martins, swallows and cuckoos, to planting up her beloved vegetable garden - thank goodness for gardening. Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens LinkedIn link : Saul Walker Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 261 - Saul is joined on this episode by Head of Horticultural Relations at the RHS, Emma Allen, to talk about her teams role in the horticultural charity, funding through bursaries and the new… 37:34

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! Lucy is off for her Easter break, so Saul invites an old friend, fellow Kew graduate and now Head of Horticultural Relations at the Royal Horticultural Society, Emma Allen, to join him in conversation about her teams role at the charity. She has a large remit of very interesting roles which includes Funding Bursaries, in which she wants to encourage a wide range of diverse backgrounds to apply for funding to help realise long held study and networking ambitions. We also chat about the evolution of the charities seven Expert Groups (formerly know as the Plant committees) and the long standing and fruitful relationships with the RHS Partner Gardens, a key benefit of being a member. Useful Links: Bursaries and Funding - Click here RHS Expert Groups - Click Here Trials and AGMS - Click Here RHS Partner Gardens - Click Here Plant Societies - Click Here Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens LinkedIn link : Emma Allen Saul Walker Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 260 - Magnolias are 'Go' in Essex! Of course, they've been Go in Devon for weeks, but Lucy's East Anglian location isn't as mild as Saul's in the South West. The duo also talk about peat… 33:29

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! With day upon day of sunshine, Saul and Lucy could be forgiven for thinking that spring is set to stay, but a brisk wind reminds them both that conditions can turn on a sixpence... That might be handy to be fair, because the soil is dry (as per normal) in Essex, but also in Saul's beloved Devon, so April, do your traditional thing, if you please. Weather waffle aside, the duo chat this week about shifting RHS peat policies and muse over why things could be taking a little longer than liked. Lucy also beams about her day filming at Audley End, and Saul braces himself for a trip up the country to be a key speaker at the Northern Hardy Plants Society key event. Come on Berlingo, don't let him down! Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens LinkedIn link : Saul Walker Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 259 - The signs of Spring are everywhere now - so Lucy and Saul indulge in a bit of Phenology - whether plants, insects, birds or piece of machinery appears - what's your herald that Spring has… 35:29

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! Everyone has their indicator that spring is here - some believe the first hint of Hawthorn Blossom is the start, optimists believe that its the first sign of Daffodils, but some wait until the risk of frost has definitely past. Whatever your sign of spring it's definitely an exciting time in the garden as the accelerator pedal of growth slowly fires up the engine on our favourite flowers and plants. So join Lucy and Saul as they talk about their favourite signs of Spring but also discuss some of the practical elements of gardening that for a professional gardener well and truly mean the early part of the gardening season is upon us! LinkedIn link : Saul Walker Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 258 - Spring is still springing! With yet more signs of this exciting season coming to life, Saul and Lucy explain how this week, they've both been taming flower borders in their respective… 33:53

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! With spring thoughts still fresh in Lucy and Saul's mind, the gardening duo report back on their respective professional weeks. Both have been busy with herbaceous border work, taming the thugs, encouraging the meek, and (of course) laying down lashings of mulch. The mighty news jingle also makes a reappearance (pls accept Lucy's 'deliberate' mistake with the insertion timing) as scholarships and greenfinger fundraisers get a well deserved shoutout. LinkedIn link : Saul Walker Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 257 - The buoyant feeling of the garden continues on Talking Heads - Lucy and Saul are still drunk on the glory of Spring as this episode features nursery visits, planting new hedges and the… 36:26

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! What a wonderful start to Spring as March has proved to be just the tonic to the grey months of Winter - the sunny and reasonably dry days punctured by chilly, but refreshing nights, are exactly what the budding gardener wants to continue as the spring garden comes to life. This means Saul and Lucy are beavering away whether visiting nurseries for planting inspiration, planting new hedges, or bringing you along on our adventures on Social media - the gardening pair I really revving up their horti-engines. Also this episode sees the debut (and maybe once only appearance !?) of Horticultural news! Buckland Cottage Gardens - Link here Matt Biggs Hospital Garden - Link Here LinkedIn link : Saul Walker Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 256 - Spring is well and truly in the air - and Lucy and Saul are utterly smitten. The horticultural juices are once again in full flow, as the lengthening sunny days brings more time outside… 34:06

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Spring is the season when gardeners throw off the hibernation and slumber of months of wet feet, many layers and waterproofs and are reborn anew! The stirring of life in the garden is one of the years great experiences, and makes a gardening life such a worthwhile pursuit, not only is it good for the planet to see the earth greening up, it is also good for the gardeners soul. But there is still lots of hard work to get on with - seeds have to be sown, mulch laid, supports erected and lawns mown. So join Lucy and Saul as they continue their professional gardening lives in the pure heaven that is Spring! There is something in the air at the start of March 2025, and Lucy and Saul have been breathing it in with huge gulps. The weather for the week has been set to glorious, and being a gardener outside has become pure joy, as the grey of winter seems (for now) to have been dispersed. And you can hear it in the Talking Heads pair's voices, as they become giddy with this time of year. Lucy is plunging head long into her own garden, while Saul wallows in his compost heap - isn't it a great time to be alive! LinkedIn link : Saul Walker Instagram link: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show Support the show…

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Ep. 255 - It's more hortiwaffle! This week, Saul and Lucy discuss the first signs of spring - are they appearing, or are you a 'fool' to think so? We think a definite YES! With talk of crocus, iris… 31:17

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Well winter is on our doorsteps, and for the general population any thoughts of gardening stops, as the common thought is the 'garden has gone to sleep'...Well nothing could be farther from the truth, as the season of shorter days and chilly weather could be one of the most important and busy in the yearly life of your garden. Join Saul and Lucy every week as they show you exactly how busy they are, whether getting everything festive for Xmas, clearing up after the latest storm, enjoying the emergent shoots of early flowering plants or getting ready for spring and a return to the start of the great garden cycle! It's another episode of your favourite professional gardening duo, and this week, Lucy and Saul are (thankfully) getting back to practical horticulture. Saul has been busy admiring his magnolias at Stonelands, and Lucy has won the battle of the miscanthus bed on Mersea, and the thorny bed at Kingsland. Hurrah!! We also thank our marvellous listeners (yes, that's YOU!) for helping Lucy with her coastal conundrum - Griselinia littoralis is the clear winner. And spring IS springing! We're happy to be fools if it's not - because there are definite signs that this glorious season is on its way. Instagram links: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Twitter links : Saul @GardeningSaul Support the show…

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Ep. 254 - The Talking Heads Duo are out and about, live at the Garden Press Event in London - to see new garden products, talk about new garden initiatives, but mostly to have a good chin-wag with a… 29:50

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Well winter is on our doorsteps, and for the general population any thoughts of gardening stops, as the common thought is the 'garden has gone to sleep'...Well nothing could be farther from the truth, as the season of shorter days and chilly weather could be one of the most important and busy in the yearly life of your garden. Join Lucy and Saul every week as they show you exactly how busy they are, whether getting everything festive for Xmas, clearing up after the latest storm, enjoying the emergent shoots of early flowering plants or getting ready for spring and a return to the start of the great garden cycle! The garden season starting gun has been fired at the Garden Press Event , held at the Business Design Centre in Islington, London. An industry event that brings together many of the well known names in the garden trade, as well as nurseries and garden charities, to promote there new products and gardening messages for 2025. It's also somewhere that the garden media, be it writers, journalists, social media influencers and also (lowly) podcasters, meet up to have a good chat about what they are looking forward to in 2025. Lucy was there looking at sustainability predicts with here RHS Fruit, Vegetable and Herb hat on, and Saul was representing the Hardy Plant Society , but overall the pair had a great time wallowing in gardening nirvana. Twitter links : Saul @GardeningSaul Instagram links: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 253 - Lucy and Saul get up extra early for this episode, to record a morning of car breakdowns, salty planting and whether it's a good idea to live in the garden you work at - and all without… 34:29

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Well winter is on our doorsteps, and for the general population any thoughts of gardening stops, as the common thought is the 'garden has gone to sleep'...Well nothing could be farther from the truth, as the season of shorter days and chilly weather could be one of the most important and busy in the yearly life of your garden. Join Lucy and Saul every week as they show you exactly how busy they are, whether getting everything festive for Xmas, clearing up after the latest storm, enjoying the emergent shoots of early flowering plants or getting ready for spring and a return to the start of the great garden cycle! (*Warning*) This weeks episode was recorded very early on a Monday morning, and Lucy had not had her usual coffee! The Talking Heads pair are beset with problems this week - or should we say Saul has suffered a breakdown - the car that is - which makes life incredibly difficult when you work at a large, estate garden which are usually found in the more rural parts of the country. So the pair naturally ask should we live near, or even on the properties where we work, are there disadvantages and advantages to doing this. Also Lucy is getting salty with her plants, and wants to know from the listeners if they have any plants immune to the sea breezes. Plus more 'Yogardening™'! Twitter links : Saul @GardeningSaul Instagram links: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 252 - Cutting lawns, testing waterproofs, showcasing ladders, favourite gardening shows for 2025 - this week, Saul and Lucy are covering plenty of ground. Oh, and yoga whilst gardening - do you… 35:56

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Well winter is on our doorsteps, and for the general population any thoughts of gardening stops, as the common thought is the 'garden has gone to sleep'...Well nothing could be farther from the truth, as the season of shorter days and chilly weather could be one of the most important and busy in the yearly life of your garden. Join Lucy and Saul every week as they show you exactly how busy they are, whether getting everything festive for Xmas, clearing up after the latest storm, enjoying the emergent shoots of early flowering plants or getting ready for spring and a return to the start of the great garden cycle! This week, your favourite professional gardening duo ponder some key horticultural questions: why does Saul feel able to 'top' the grass in winter but not cut it, why did Lucy's 30,000 hydrostatic head waterproof coat fail her miserably (luckily her trousers didn't), does Saul sneakily line-dance around Stonelands when the owners are out, and why are tripod ladders so incredibly useful? Saul and Lucy also answer listener queries on what are the best gardening shows to visit in 2025, and Lucy concludes that Saul may not be completely convinced by her 'yogardening' concept.... Twitter links : Saul @GardeningSaul Instagram links: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 251 - Stormy winds, some Houseplants at RHS Rosemoor and Lucy moonlighting makes for this weeks Horti-waffle™ - as the Talking Heads pair continue to bring their gardening lives to your ears. 36:02

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Well winter is on our doorsteps, and for the general population any thoughts of gardening stops, as the common thought is the 'garden has gone to sleep'...Well nothing could be farther from the truth, as the season of shorter days and chilly weather could be one of the most important and busy in the yearly life of your garden. Join Lucy and Saul every week as they show you exactly how busy they are, whether getting everything festive for Xmas, clearing up after the latest storm, enjoying the emergent shoots of early flowering plants or getting ready for spring and a return to the start of the great garden cycle! Lucy on other podcasts!! The shame of it, well on Lucy's last ever podcast episode (not really!?!) the Talking Heads pair talk up another storm (literally) about their lives in Gardening. Including the RHS Rosemoor Houseplant Weekend, Lucy's attempt at making purple ice-cream with basil and what do do with all that Bamboo. The gardening year is barrelling on at such a pace how do we ever keep up. Twitter links : Saul @GardeningSaul Instagram links: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Bluesky links: Lucy @lucycgardens.bsky.social Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 250 - It's another milestone for the Talking Heads Podcast! But rather than celebrate with a quiz, the duo mark the occasion with - you've guessed it - top notch horti-waffle :-) 39:00

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Well winter is on our doorsteps, and for the general population any thoughts of gardening stops, as the common thought is the 'garden has gone to sleep'...Well nothing could be farther from the truth, as the season of shorter days and chilly weather could be one of the most important and busy in the yearly life of your garden. Join Lucy and Saul every week as they show you exactly how busy they are, whether getting everything festive for Xmas, clearing up after the latest storm, enjoying the emergent shoots of early flowering plants or getting ready for spring and a return to the start of the great garden cycle! Wow - 250 episodes of the Talking Heads podcast and you're still reading our accompanying blurb? You deserve a medal! Once we pick ourselves up off the floor, Saul and Lucy celebrate with a look at our professional gardening lives for the week (after all, that is our USP). Saul and his team have been busy de-ivying Stoneland's trees, whilst Lucy has been busy with her topiary shears (well, battery trimmers because she's not a fan of RSI). The duo also ponder why on earth could Saul have been lured to his talk this week? And Lucy looks forward to day on her hands and knees in the name of tulip aesthetics. Twitter links : Saul @GardeningSaul Instagram links: Lucy lucychamberlaingardens Bluesky links: Lucy @lucycgardens.bsky.social Intro and Outro music from https://filmmusic.io "Fireflies and Stardust" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY ( http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ ) Support the show…

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Ep. 249 - This week, Saul and Lucy have donned their RHS hats to participate in an information sharing session regarding plans for 2025. With water conservation, plants for a purpose and website… 36:35

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