PONIs and Stallions: Building Major Projects

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On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan talk with Heather Exner-Pirot about the new Canadian major projects legislation and how we should think about nation-building projects and Canada's national interest for energy. // For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the next month is oil prices and the prospect of pipelines thorough B.C. // Guest Bio: - Heather Exner-Pirot is a Senior Fellow and Director of Energy, Natural Resources and Environment at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute // Host Bio: - Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute - Joe Calnan is VP, Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute // Reading recommendations: - "Abundance", by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: https://www.amazon.ca/Abundance-Progress-Takes-Ezra-Klein/dp/1668023482 - "The Buried City: Unearthing the Real Pompeii", by Gabriel Zuchtriegel: https://www.amazon.ca/Buried-City-Unearthing-Pompeii-Bestseller/dp/1399731173 // Interview recording Date: June 10, 2025 // Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary. // Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.