Why HR Doesn't—Can't—Work with Jordan Birnbaum

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Buckle up for a riotous romp through the HR jungle on The Chad and Cheese Podcast! Hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash, the dynamic duo of workplace wit, are joined by Jordan Birnbaum, the Glinda Group’s co-founder and resident HR wizard, who’s ready to zap some sense into the corporate chaos.

Armed with his industrial-organizational psychology and behavioral science superpowers, Jordan dishes on why HR is stuck in a Dilbert cartoon, flailing under outdated structures. He’s calling for an HR glow-up, splitting it into specialized squads to actually support employees instead of drowning them in paperwork.

The trio dives into AI’s takeover of HR—think less “Terminator,” more “clippy on steroids”—and how it’s shaking up everything from hiring to watercooler chats. They also tackle generational workplace vibes (Boomers, Millennials, and Gen Z, oh my!) and why agility is the secret sauce for HR that doesn’t suck.

With Jordan’s vision, it’s all about crafting workplaces that don’t make you want to rage-quit on Monday. Expect sharp insights, belly laughs, and a few “HR-rible” puns as Joel and Chad grill Jordan on building a happier, less soul-crushing office life.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Jordan Birnbaum

05:06 The Glinda Group and Its Mission

06:55 Exploring HR's Ineffectiveness

09:23 Reimagining HR's Structure

13:53 The Role of AI in HR Transformation

18:51 Generational Perspectives on HR

24:45 Future of Work and AI's Impact