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#203: Strategy | Why Cookie Cutter Marketing Doesn’t Work with Gurdeep Dhillon, CMO at ContentStack

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In this episode, Dave is joined by Gurdeep Dhillon, CMO of Contentstack. Gurdeep has built an impressive career leading marketing at some of the biggest names in enterprise software, from SAP to Adobe, Marketo to Zoura. Now at Content Stack, he's challenging conventional B2B marketing wisdom in rethinking how enterprise companies should approach demand generation and brand building. In this conversation, Dave and Gurdeep dive deep into why marketing is ultimately a game of memory and reputation, not just lead generation.

Dave and Gurdeep cover:

  • The role of Demand Gen in 2025 (and what's changed)
  • Why Brand and Reputation should be prioritized over Lead Generation
  • Proven strategies to create urgency and close sales deals in enterprise markets
  • A glimpse into ContentStack’s team structure and how they plan for growth

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - - Intro to Gurdeep
  • (07:16) - - Brand and Audience Marketing
  • (08:28) - - How the Role of Demand Gen is Changing
  • (12:38) - - Brand and Reputation > Lead Generation
  • (17:28) - - How Contentstack is Doing Demand Gen
  • (20:06) - - How to Create Urgency to Win Sales Deals
  • (21:47) - - Making a Good Offer in B2B Marketing
  • (23:03) - - Why Being Bold and Taking Risks is Important in Marketing
  • (29:53) - - Selling Your Vision to Leadership
  • (32:34) - - How Contentstack Has Over 10,000 Global ICP Accounts
  • (37:17) - - Team Structure at Contentstack
  • (42:15) - - Running Marketing and Operating a High-Performing Team
  • (44:31) - - Setting Effective Annual Plans
  • (46:46) - - AI’s Role in Marketing
  • (50:20) - - Closing Thoughts

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

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Today’s episode is brought to you by Zuddl.

We’re halfway through 2025, and one thing’s clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone’s leaning in.

Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we’ve hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we’re deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.

Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.

On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that’s how we’ve been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.

If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025.

Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more.

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In this episode, Dave is joined by Gurdeep Dhillon, CMO of Contentstack. Gurdeep has built an impressive career leading marketing at some of the biggest names in enterprise software, from SAP to Adobe, Marketo to Zoura. Now at Content Stack, he's challenging conventional B2B marketing wisdom in rethinking how enterprise companies should approach demand generation and brand building. In this conversation, Dave and Gurdeep dive deep into why marketing is ultimately a game of memory and reputation, not just lead generation.

Dave and Gurdeep cover:

  • The role of Demand Gen in 2025 (and what's changed)
  • Why Brand and Reputation should be prioritized over Lead Generation
  • Proven strategies to create urgency and close sales deals in enterprise markets
  • A glimpse into ContentStack’s team structure and how they plan for growth

Timestamps

  • (00:00) - - Intro to Gurdeep
  • (07:16) - - Brand and Audience Marketing
  • (08:28) - - How the Role of Demand Gen is Changing
  • (12:38) - - Brand and Reputation > Lead Generation
  • (17:28) - - How Contentstack is Doing Demand Gen
  • (20:06) - - How to Create Urgency to Win Sales Deals
  • (21:47) - - Making a Good Offer in B2B Marketing
  • (23:03) - - Why Being Bold and Taking Risks is Important in Marketing
  • (29:53) - - Selling Your Vision to Leadership
  • (32:34) - - How Contentstack Has Over 10,000 Global ICP Accounts
  • (37:17) - - Team Structure at Contentstack
  • (42:15) - - Running Marketing and Operating a High-Performing Team
  • (44:31) - - Setting Effective Annual Plans
  • (46:46) - - AI’s Role in Marketing
  • (50:20) - - Closing Thoughts

Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected]
Join the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter
Check out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/
Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership

***

Today’s episode is brought to you by Zuddl.

We’re halfway through 2025, and one thing’s clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone’s leaning in.

Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we’ve hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we’re deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.

Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.

On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that’s how we’ve been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.

If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025.

Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more.

  continue reading

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