184/ Öcalan's Statement and the Future of the PKK w/ Dîlan

The Fire These Times

On Feb 27, Abdullah Öcalan, the long-time jailed leader of the PKK (Kurdish Worker’s Party), released a statement that shocked many. In the statement he called for the PKK to lay down their arms, which could spell the end of the 40-year long armed struggle against the Turkish state, and for the creation of a legal, diplomatic framework to ensure inclusion, rights, and dignity for the Kurdish communities within a democratic Turkish nation.

In this episode, Ayman Makarem, Israa, and Karena Avedissian are joined by Dîlan who provides a thorough overview of the present moment, situates it within the longer history of the Kurdish struggle, and explores analysis of what this all means - for Kurds and other communities across the WANA region.

As this episode is time-sensitive we are releasing it on Patreon and publicly at the same time.

Dîlan is a reluctant academic and tired organizer. She is interested in alternative historiographies, feminist methodologies, and memory. She considers herself an equal-opportunity hater regarding states and authoritarian power structures, and is a dedicated skeptic of reactionary tendencies in both organizing and academic spheres.

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• https://wjas.org/en/the-foundation/
• https://nudemorg.com/support/
• https://rojavainformationcenter.org/donate/

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Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.

Credits:

Ayman Makarem (host, producer, sound editor), Karena Avidissian (host), Israa (host), Dîlan (guest), ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (original TFTT theme design), ⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design), ⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics), Elia Ayoub (episode design).

From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti and israa abd elfattah.

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