Lessons Learned From 1,000 CTO Stories With Joel Beasley - Cut The Onion Episode One The Forward Podcast With SmartOSC podcast

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What if rethinking your shopping list could change the world? In this episode of The Forward Podcast: Rethink , we’re joined by @ ChrisBaker, award-winning strategist, social entrepreneur, and author of Obsolete: How Change Brands Are Changing the World . Chris is the driving force behind: 🧻 Serious Tissues – tackling deforestation with recycled, plastic-free toilet paper and nearly 2 million trees planted ☕ Change Please – a coffee company that’s helped thousands of people out of homelessness through barista training and employment We dive into: 💡 What defines a Change Brand —and how they’re disrupting tired categories 💸 Why your wallet may be more powerful than your vote ⚡ How legacy companies can rethink from the inside out 🏷️ What brands like Tony’s Chocolonely, Wild, and Liquid Death are getting right—and why they’re gaining loyalty fast Whether you're a brand builder, a conscious consumer, or just someone wondering how small habits can create big ripple effects—this conversation will get you rethinking the power of your personal spending. #TheForwardPodcast #SmartOSC #ChrisBaker #Obsolete #ChangeBrands #SeriousTissues #ChangePlease #ConsumerPower #Rethink #BrandStrategy #ImpactBrands…

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Rethink Finance in Asia: What Needs to Change? (Money20/20 Special Part 2) 17:04

5 weeks ago17:04

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Finance in Asia is moving fast. But is it moving in the right direction? Right now, too many fintech solutions are built for the top of the pyramid , for people with stable incomes, credit histories, and easy access to financial services. That leaves millions excluded and opens the door for predatory products to fill the gaps. At the same time, cross-border payments remain fragmented. Regulation struggles to keep pace with innovation. And while AI is racing ahead, too often it’s being used to replicate outdated processes instead of truly rethinking what’s possible. So: What needs a rethink? And how can we build a future of finance that is truly inclusive, effective, and human? In this episode, recorded at Money20/20 Asia , you’ll hear from the people asking and answering the hard questions, and shaping what comes next. Featuring voices from (in order of appearance) ⁠ Samantha Lee ⁠ , Chief of Staff at Discover Payments ⁠ Eric Margaryan, ⁠ Head of Sales | Fighting Fraud & Money Laundering with AI/ Machine Learning at Tookitaki ⁠ Puneet Gambhir, ⁠ Head of Risk and GrabDefence Business ⁠ Oliver Beaumont, ⁠ CEO and Co-Founder of TARN ⁠ Christian Villegas, ⁠⁠ Digital Channels Group Head at Bank of the Philippines Islands Sean Murphy COO at The Connector ⁠ Neha Josi ⁠ , Director of Projects at DEPT, also ran the Unfiltered stage at Money 20/20 Medhy Souidi, Founder of What The Fintech, Transformation Lead - Head of Innovation & Experiences at DBS Hong Kong Sunday Domingo, Global Head, Digital Channel Solutions at Standard Chartered Hosted by: Aziza O'Beirne About The Forward Podcast: Rethink - When the old answers don’t fit, it’s time for new questions. Rethink is a new season of the award-winning Forward Podcast built around slowing down, questioning assumptions, and sitting longer in the problem stage - before rushing to solutions. Too often, businesses cling to what they know, hiding behind the old “this is how we’ve always done it” line. It's the fastest way to kill diversity of thinking, new ideas, and meaningful change. This series is about rethinking what's broken: outdated products, workplaces stuck in the past, leadership resisting change, and tech that no longer serves the people using it. In each episode, we sit with rethinkers: founders, creators, strategists, and innovators, who are challenging norms and building better ways forward. From redesigning shopping experiences to making digital finance more accessible, we explore how slowing down to ask better questions leads to stronger, more human-centered futures. Because solving yesterday’s problems with yesterday’s solutions won’t get us where we need to go. Slow down. Look closer. Build better. Brought to you by SmartOSC, a global digital transformation agency https://www.smartosc.com/ #Money2020Asia #Money2020Bangkok #Money2020 #Fintech #Banking #InlcusiveBanking #Innovation #Panelists #Innovation #Money2020Europe…

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Rethink the Future of Money: 20(ish) Minutes from Money 20/20 Asia That Made Us Rethink (Part 1) 23:20

5 weeks ago23:20

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3 days. 200 of Asia’s most influential tech leaders, banks, startups, retailers, regulators, and creators, all under one roof to talk about where the future of fintech is heading. Thousands of guests. One big question: What made you rethink? We went floor to floor at @Money20/20 Asia, one of the biggest fintech events in the world, to speak with speakers and attendees who are actively shaping the future of finance. We asked them 👉 What moment at Money20/20 has stopped you in your tracks and made you rethink? From AI’s double-edged potential to fraud, inclusion, and rethinking what real innovation actually looks like, this episode captures brilliant moments that may stick in your mind for days to come. 🎙️ Featuring: • @MedhySouidi (DBS & @WhatTheFintech) – on GenAI use cases beyond banking in Asia • Sunday Domingo (Standard Chartered) – on collaboration and the push-and-pull of AI • Christian Villegas (BPI) – on protecting vulnerable users and cross-border innovation • Neha (Dept) – UX and designing unfiltered, honest conversations • Eric (Tookitaki) – on why digital literacy is key to protection • Puneet Kambir (Grab) – on risk, fraud, and the upside of a unified AI narrative • Oliver Beaumont (Tarn) – on what really matters in payments • Samantha Lee (Discover) – on inclusive design and the cost of chasing hype Hosted by: Aziza O'Beirne 👇 If you were there, what moment made you stop and rethink? Leave a comment below About The Forward Podcast: Rethink - When the old answers don’t fit, it’s time for new questions. Rethink is a new season of the award-winning Forward Podcast built around slowing down, questioning assumptions, and sitting longer in the problem stage - before rushing to solutions. Too often, businesses cling to what they know, hiding behind the old “this is how we’ve always done it” line. It's the fastest way to kill diversity of thinking, new ideas, and meaningful change. This series is about rethinking what's broken: outdated products, workplaces stuck in the past, leadership resisting change, and tech that no longer serves the people using it. In each episode, we sit with rethinkers: founders, creators, strategists, and innovators, who are challenging norms and building better ways forward. From redesigning shopping experiences to making digital finance more accessible, we explore how slowing down to ask better questions leads to stronger, more human-centered futures. Because solving yesterday’s problems with yesterday’s solutions won’t get us where we need to go. Slow down. Look closer. Build better. Brought to you by SmartOSC, a global digital transformation agency https://www.smartosc.com/ #Money2020Asia #Money2020Bangkok #Money2020 #Fintech #Banking #InlcusiveBanking #Innovation #Panelists #Innovation #Money2020Europe…

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Rethink the Algorithm - It’s Time to Challenge the Stories We’re Sold with Shawn Lim 32:44

8 weeks ago32:44

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What does it really mean to rethink not just technology — but the culture behind it? In this episode, we talk to Shawn Lim, a journalist-turned-solopreneur whose work now lives at the intersection of identity, media, and digital transformation. After more than a decade reporting on adtech, agency shifts, and marketing innovation across APAC, Shawn now runs Human Algorithm — a newsletter and podcast that challenges surface-level stories in business and explores more human, inclusive ways forward. We cover #AIagents, #brandloyalty, #parenting, #burnout, and why #internalculture is no longer something that stays hidden behind closed doors. Shawn shares his own story of #reinvention, from being told he couldn't write without a degree, to becoming one of the best tech reporters in #APAC. “We live in an age of automation, but we still need that human connection. That’s why I chose the name Human Algorithm .” - Shawn Lim Whether you're working in retail, BFSI, or tech or you're simply trying to build something that lasts this episode is about moving beyond the hype and doing business in a way that feels more honest. ⏱️ Episode Chapters: 00:00 – What moves Shawn forward 07:29 – Bullying & self-acceptance 11:28 – Solopreneur life & parenting 15:38 – Human connection in the attention economy 19:21 – Accountability & what AI could actually solve 23:22 – Outdated business assumptions 26:44 – Future trends: storytelling, B2H, and AI agents 30:22 – The fall of brand loyalty 34:33 – Burnout & letting go of people-pleasing The Let Them Poem by Cassie Phillips The Let Them Book from Mel Robbins…

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Rethink Digital Fashion - The Problems Retail Still Doesn’t Solve for Customers 40:40

11 weeks ago40:40

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Flat websites. Frustrating Size Guides. Endless scrolling. Overwhelmed customers. While it seems everything else has evolved around us, in 2025, online hopping still hasn’t caught up with consumer needs. To kick off our Rethink series, we speak to Olivia Lee. Olivia is the founder of LIVVIUM, a digital fashion and Web3 consultancy helping brands create more immersive, human-centered experiences online. Named one of the Top 100 Global Women in Emerging Tech, she works at the intersection of digital fashion, consumer experience, and the future of the metaverse. In this episode, Olivia challenges the assumptions digital fashion and retail need to rethink and shows us what a better future could look like. In this episode, we talk about: Why online shopping is overdue for a radical redesign How digital fashion is moving from novelty to purpose: reducing waste, building communities, and changing how we express ourselves online Why the future of shopping won’t be about search bars, it’ll be about experiences that anticipate your needs How small businesses can rethink without needing massive budgets - and the free tools already available What it means to build shopping experiences for people, not just for brands If you’d like to skip along to key moments that work best for you, here you go: 00:00:00 - Olivia Lee: Speaking on Retail & Reinvention 04:00 - Career Journey &Coming across the Metaverse 07:40 - Metaverse Career Path 11:13 - Human-Centric Digital Fashion 15:05 - Digital Fashion: Moving from Novelty to Community 18:32 - Digital Fashion's Evolution 22:16 - Digital Fashion: Innovation 26:01 - Brand Loyalty Through Data 30:05 - Metaverse Shopping Revolution 37:10 - The Future of Fashion & AI Agents About The Forward Podcast: Rethink- When the old answers don’t fit, it’s time for new questions. Rethink is a new season of the award-winning Forward Podcast built around slowing down, questioning assumptions, and sitting longer in the problem stage - before rushing to solutions. Too often, businesses cling to what they know, hiding behind the old “this is how we’ve always done it” line. It's the fastest way to kill diversity of thinking, new ideas, and meaningful change. This series is about rethinking what's broken: outdated products, workplaces stuck in the past, leadership resisting change, and tech that no longer serves the people using it. In each episode, we sit with rethinkers: founders, creators, strategists, and innovators, who are challenging norms and building better ways forward. From redesigning shopping experiences to making digital finance more accessible, we explore how slowing down to ask better questions leads to stronger, more human-centered futures. Because solving yesterday’s problems with yesterday’s solutions won’t get us where we need to go. Slow down. Look closer. Build better.…

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New Season Trailer: The Forward Podcast: Rethink 1:40

11 weeks ago1:40

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When the old answers don't fit, it’s time for new questions. New season coming soon:🎙The Forward Podcast: Rethink! A lot of the problems we’re trying to solve today are built on assumptions that no longer fit. We’re asking: What’s overdue for a rethink? Instead of rushing to solutions, we're sitting longer in the problem stage. This season, we’re speaking to rethinkers. The ones who stay curious instead of comfortable. The ones who are rethinking how we build communities, how we design shopping experiences, how we make digital finance more accessible - those who are rethinking outdated products, workplaces stuck in the past, leadership resisting change, and tech not serving the people using it. Because solving yesterday’s problems with yesterday’s solutions won’t get us where we need to go. Slow down. Look closer. Build better. First guest announcement coming to you this Friday, 25th April - Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.…

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From Fairydust to Impact: The Future of the CTO Role - Cut The Onion Episode 6 53:23

29 weeks ago53:23

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In this episode, we’re peeling back the layers with Rebecca Parsons — Board Member, Author, Speaker, and Former CTO Emerita of Thoughtworks! As a long-term tech devotee, Rebecca has left her mark across academia, government research, nonprofits, startups, manufacturing, and massive enterprises. She’s a passionate advocate for programming languages, AI, and evolutionary computation — all while keeping her feet firmly planted in the ever-evolving tech community. 💡 In her own words: "I’m a geek through and through. I can’t imagine not being in the technology community. That’s just who I am." What’s inside this conversation: 👀 The myth of “magic fairy dust” technology and solutions 🔍 Balancing fairness and profit in data collection (and the risks of using proxies for race, gender, and religion) 🌍 Performative DEI, personal values, and advice to future selves 🔑 The future of the CTO role: will we see more combined CTO/product roles? 🤖 Continuous Delivery and DORA Metrics: transforming deployment practices 💡 The value of saying “I don’t know” in a constantly changing world …and so much more! 🌟…

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R&D’s Future: Co-Ownership, Creativity, and Observability at the Core - Cut The Onion Episode 5 40:04

31 weeks ago40:04

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In this episode, we’re peeling back the layers with @CharityMajors, CTO and Co-Founder of @Honeycomb.io, the pioneers of observability for complex systems. Charity’s career has been built on designing and managing massive distributed systems at Parse (acquired by Facebook), Facebook, and Linden Lab (makers of Second Life). She’s also the co-author of #ObservabilityEngineering and #DatabaseReliabilityEngineering (O'Reilly). In this conversation, we don’t hold back! Charity and Aziza dive into what’s causing tears of joy and tears of frustration in the tech world as well as discussing: 🔍 Why observability is crucial and the shift from Observability 1.0 to 2.0 👀 The need for transparency and accountability in leadership 🌍 Performative DEI, personal values, and advice to future selves 🔑 What it means to be a CTO — going beyond traditional roles and assumptions 🤖 Why AI won’t build your teams, and the importance of junior engineers 💡 Socio-technical pathways to high-performing teams ...and so much more! 🌟 Cut The Onion, hosted by @AzizaOBeirne, is a mini-series where we peel back the layers of tech roles, exploring the stories of those working in tech across various industries. Honest takes, trends, and tips for going forward! Brought to you by @SmartOSC- www.smartosc.com…

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The Gift of Connection: How Value-Based Frameworks Shape Technical Success - Cut The Onion Episode 4 44:51

32 weeks ago44:51

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Today, we're peeling back the layers with Philip Gill, CTO at SmartBox Group - the number one experience #gift provider in Europe, selling millions of gifts every year!! From #QualityAssurance to #CTO, it's a road less traveled, but it comes with incredible stories and perspectives. These stories include Phil’s experience working in various countries before joining Smartbox a decade ago. How he has surrounded himself with smart, driven, and passionate people, who always keep user experience at the heart of their work. As a CTO, Phil advocates for #sustainable working environments and avoiding single points of failure. In this episode, we hear all of this and more… 🔑How to build trust and agility in tech teams 🤝 The importance of calling BS (B*llsh*t) on some #AIhype and finding real value 🛠️His thoughts on #BuildVSBuy 📈 The Keys to Delivering Strategic Projects: Lessons from Smartbox's #eCommerce Rebuild ⏱️ How to Improve #CycleTimes and Team Happiness 🚫 The importance of Zero Distraction 💬 How to Empower Decision-Making and Shorten Decision Chains 00:00:40 - Introduction and Typical CTO Day 00:03:37 - Balancing Planned and Operational Work 06:54 - Importance of Collaboration and Quality 10:45 - Evolution of CTO Roles and Leadership 00:14:04 - Challenges and Hype in AI Industry 17:04 - Custom Solutions and Expertise 00:20:07 - Business Continuity Challenges 23:36 - Evolution of Scalable Systems 00:27:22 - Delivering Major eCommerce Projects 00:33:41 - Advice for Digital Transformation Success Cut The Onion, hosted by @AzizaOBeirne, is a mini-series where we peel back the layers of tech roles, exploring the stories of those working in tech across various industries. Honest takes, trends, and tips for going forward! Brought to you by @SmartOSC…

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How Kindness Always Wins: Core Leadership Principles with Florian Pasquier, CTO at Carma | Cut The Onion Episode 3 29:48

35 weeks ago29:48

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In this episode, we’re peeling back the layers with Florian (Flo) Pasquier, CTO at Carma. From engineer to co-founder and CTO, Flo’s career has been filled with eye-opening twists, turns, and valuable lessons! We’ll be getting a front-row seat to his brilliant mind and experiences and hearing about why building strong engineering teams with empathy and storytelling is critical for navigating the fast-changing tech landscape. You’ll hear all of this and more: 📈 Continuous Learning & Strong Foundations – Why these are essential for staying ahead in a rapidly evolving industry. 🔧 The Tech Leader Toolbox – From DevOps and CloudOps to SecOps (Security Operations), CTOs are managing an increasingly complex set of tools and responsibilities. 📣 Bridging the Gap – How CTOs and technical leaders can connect technology with decision-makers to drive meaningful impact. 📖 Storytelling & Leading by Example – Why these tools are crucial for shaping boardroom conversations and promoting tech understanding across an organization. 💰 Tech as a Revenue Enabler – The challenge of shifting the perception of tech teams from cost centers to value-driven enablers—and the cultural change needed to make that shift. About Carma: Carma is a fully digital car dealership, offering a wide range of quality pre-owned vehicles at fixed prices, delivered right to the home with a 7-day returns policy with no questions asked! Visit their website here About Cut The Onion: Cut The Onion is a mini-series where we peel back the layers of what it truly means to be a Chief Technology Officer. We’re diving deep into tech roles that are often misunderstood, exploring the stories of leaders across various industries, and bringing you the honest takes, trends, and tips you need to move forward. It is all brought to you by SmartOSC - With 18 years in operation, SmartOSC is an award-winning digital commerce agency of 1,000+ experts, across seven countries including Vietnam, Australia, Singapore, Japan, Thailand, the US, and the UK. Check out our website: https://www.smartosc.com/…

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Less Trust, More Truth: Getting to the Core of the Cardano Foundation - Cut The Onion, Episode Two 54:42

38 weeks ago54:42

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“We cannot solve a misuse of trust in people with blockchain technology. But I think what we can solve is the trust in systems challenge.” Today, we're peeling back the layers with Sebastian Bode, The VP of Engineering at the Cardano Foundation. Sebastian turned his childhood dream job at Ubisoft into a career that’s spanned robotics, automotive, finance, and now blockchain! After years as an engineer, Sebastian made the leap to leadership and realized what really excites him isn’t just solving technical problems—it’s working with people and creating environments and systems that thrive on truth, education, resilience, and adoption. We spoke to Sebastian to hear about his experience, getting to the core of his motivations and the future of the Cardano Foundation. Here’s what you can expect to hear: 💡 Blockchain Education, Literacy, and Regulation ⚙️ Chang hard fork and decentralized governance 🚀 Innovations and trends that he is keeping a close eye on 🔎 Leadership advice - The importance of curiosity and stepping out of the blockchain bubble ...and much more! Also, this week, over 10,000 attendees from over 25 countries will gather in Dubai for the Cardano Summit 2024. The Cardano Foundation will be joined by speakers such as Binance CEO Richard Teng and Animoca Labs Co-Founder and Chairman Yat Siu at the global blockchain event. The Cardano Summit brings together industry leaders, blockchain enthusiasts, regulators, policymakers, engineers, and developers. You can still get tickets by clicking the link below, listeners of Cut The Onion also get a lovely 10% discount on tickets by using the code: CDS24MEDIA10 https://summit.cardano.org/ What is Cut The Onion, we hear you ask? It’s a mini-series where we peel back the layers of tech roles. We’ll be getting to the core of tech roles that can oftentimes be misunderstood and exploring the stories of those working in tech across a multitude of industries - bringing you honest takes, trends, and tips for going forward.…

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Lessons Learned From 1,000 CTO Stories with Joel Beasley - Cut The Onion Episode One 1:01:22

38 weeks ago1:01:22

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In this premiere episode of our brand-new mini-series Cut The Onion, we're kicking things off by sitting down with Joel Beasley, the creator of @ModernCTO (ModernCTO.io) Joel Beasley is somewhat of a CTO whisperer - he’s interviewed almost 1,000 CTOS since releasing his book ‘Modern CTO’ and podcast of the same name. In this episode, Joel takes us behind the curtain to share the lessons he’s learned from countless conversations, his personal journey as a CTO, and what is the source code of his being, his core, and what moves him forward in life. We’ll peel back layers on: Joel’s biggest frustrations with the tech industry The innovations that bring him the most joy The power of focusing on "the next right thing" Why you "fall to the level of your systems" How to figure out what type of CTO you really are …and more insights from one of the most fun, engaging, insightful, and HONEST voices in this space. If you want to skip to any point: 00:00:24 - Journey into Podcast Creation 05:14 - Evolution of Media and Podcasts 10:24 - The Tidal Wave of AGI That is Coming 14:57 - AI Transparency and Challenges 19:58 - Data Center Operation and Innovation 24:32 - CTO Roles and Self-Awareness 29:27 - Understanding Organizational Needs 34:15 - Designing Systems for Success 39:10 - Mentoring and Personal Growth 49:38 - Perseverance and Motivation Cut The Onion is a mini-series where we peel back the layers of what it truly means to be a Chief Technology Officer. We’re diving deep into tech roles that are often misunderstood, exploring the stories of leaders across various industries, and bringing you the honest takes, trends, and tips you need to move forward. It is all brought to you by SmartOSC - With 18 years in operation, SmartOSC is an award-winning digital commerce agency of 1,000+ experts, across seven countries including Vietnam, Australia, Singapore, Japan, Thailand, the US, and the UK. Check out our website: smartosc.com #CTO, #Podcast, #ModernCTO, #GaryVaynerchuk, #Microsoft, #Interviews, #Technology, #AGI, #Future, #Death, #AI, #VeniceAI, #Transparency, #Ethics, #NanonuclearTechnology, #ZeusAndOdinReactorSystems, #Misconceptions, #Communication, #Leadership, #BusinessSystems, #Mentorship, #Principles, #Laundry, #Robots, #NeverGivingUp…

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International Podcast Day - Advice To My Future Self 22:11

41 weeks ago22:11

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If you could speak to your future self, what advice would you offer? That’s the question we've been asking our guests this season. To celebrate #InternationalPodcastDay, we’re wrapping up this season with a special compilation of sage advice from our brilliant lineup! From savoring the wins, and trusting your gut, to promoting people sooner, this season has been filled with invaluable wisdom to help you move forward. We’ll also have a very exciting announcement to make so make sure to stay to the end to hear about it! In this episode, you’ll hear from: Simon Torring the CEO and Co-founder of Cube Asia Andre Menezes Co-founder of TiNDLE Natalie Dau Author of Run Like a Woman Terry O’Connor Strategic Advisor to Bain & Company, Trustana, SmartOSC and more Jeffrey Tan President of the Singapore Computer Society Catherine D Henry Author of Virtual Natives Dennis Trawnitchek CTO of SCBX Andy Chang Global Head of Marketing Tech at Electrolux Emily Hinks , Co-Founder and CEO of Mischief Makers Mint Kaewmanorom Head of Analytics & AI Business Development at True Digital…

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S3 Episode 10: Thriving or Surviving? Why the ROI of Human Connection Is Crucial for the Future of Work with Emily Hinks 50:19

42 weeks ago50:19

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Are traditional office cultures meeting their end? What happens when you start investing in the ROI of Human Connection? (Spoiler alert: great things will happen!) In this episode of #TheForwardPodcast, we're joined by Emily Hinks, founder and CEO of Mischief Makers. She’s shaking up the Future of Work with her delightfully unconventional, human-centered approach to team collaboration and growth, using facilitation as fuel for good! Emily shares her mischievous methods that have attracted brands like Netflix, Spotify, Nike, and Greenpeace into her orbit. Whether you’re a team member, manager, founder, or CEO—hybrid or fully remote—you can expect relatable, practical tips and real-world examples that highlight the rewards of investing in Human Connection for a brighter future at work. If you’d like to skip along to key moments that work best for you - here you go: 03:32 Why Emily started Mischief Makers 08:07 The Importance of fun and mischief in the workplace 12:18 Effective meeting communication 17:07 Can AI help us spend more time on creativity?21:36 Case studies for facilitation 26:12 Building workplace connections 31:17 Organizational statements implemented 36:53 Budgeting for fun activities 42:49 Addressing hybrid session challenges 48:34 Move Forward and Leave Behind 54:24 Future self advice Check out Emily’s Check-in Generator for a fun way to energize your meetings or explore Mischief Makers’ Hybrid Facilitation Training to lead groups more effectively in today’s evolving work environment. You can find out more at Mischiefmakers.co and EmilyHinks.com ! About The Forward Podcast: In a world where technology intertwines with every aspect of our lives, how do industry experts and leaders plan to navigate forward? Explore bold moves and strategies for success amid constant disruption. Learn the ideas, behaviours, tools, and trends they'll leave behind, and those they'll carry forward to shape the future of work, life, and leadership. Each episode is hosted and edited by Aziza O'Beirne.…

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S3 Episode 9: Authenticity & Trust: The Past, Present, and Future of Transformation and Leadership with Terry O’Connor (OBE) 47:37

45 weeks ago47:37