AI and L&D Insights: L&D, AI, and the Skills Based Organization (SBO)

The LDA Podcast: An Exploration of Evidence-Informed Approaches to Learning and Development

A guide to building a resilient ecosystem
A guide to building the foundations for your skill-based organisation

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America’s Sweethearts: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders is back for its second season! Kay Adams welcomes the women who assemble the squad, Kelli Finglass and Judy Trammell, to the Netflix Sports Club Podcast. They discuss the emotional rollercoaster of putting together the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. Judy and Kelli open up about what it means to embrace flaws in the pursuit of perfection, how they identify that winning combo of stamina and wow factor, and what it’s like to see Thunderstruck go viral. Plus, the duo shares their hopes for the future of DCC beyond the field. Netflix Sports Club Podcast Correspondent Dani Klupenger also stops by to discuss the NBA Finals, basketball’s biggest moments with Michael Jordan and LeBron, and Kevin Durant’s international dominance. Dani and Kay detail the rise of Coco Gauff’s greatness and the most exciting storylines heading into Wimbledon. We want to hear from you! Leave us a voice message at www.speakpipe.com/NetflixSportsClub Find more from the Netflix Sports Club Podcast @NetflixSports on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and X. You can catch Kay Adams @heykayadams and Dani Klupenger @daniklup on IG and X. Be sure to follow Kelli Finglass and Judy Trammel @kellifinglass and @dcc_judy on IG. Hosted by Kay Adams, the Netflix Sports Club Podcast is an all-access deep dive into the Netflix Sports universe! Each episode, Adams will speak with athletes, coaches, and a rotating cycle of familiar sports correspondents to talk about a recently released Netflix Sports series. The podcast will feature hot takes, deep analysis, games, and intimate conversations. Be sure to watch, listen, and subscribe to the Netflix Sports Club Podcast on YouTube, Spotify, Tudum, or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes on Fridays every other week.…

2 years ago 39:28

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In this episode, Markus and Jeroen van Hautte dive into the world of AI and L&D, but with a specific view towards the future of the Skills Based Organization (SBO). Jeroen shares his views on the future of work, the impact AI is going to have, and how it all fits in with the skills piece - in L&D, in HR, and in the wider organization.

Jeroen is the co-founder and CTO of TechWolf, an AI start-up revolutionizing workforce skill management for global clients like Booking.com, GSK and United Airlines. A top graduate of Cambridge University, he's recognized by Forbes '30 Under 30' for his contributions to AI and mentorship in engineering. As an advisor and thought leader, he maintains a strong connection to research while steering TechWolf's product vision and fostering an inclusive, customer-driven engineering culture.

You can find Jeroen and TechWolf on LinkedIn here:

Jeroen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroenvanhautte/
TechWolf: https://www.linkedin.com/company/techwolf/

TechWolf's website is: https://techwolf.com/

Two more links referred to in the show are:

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The LDA Podcast: An Exploration of Evidence-Informed Approaches to Learning and Development

AI and L&D Insights: L&D, AI, and the Skills Based Organization (SBO)

The LDA Podcast: An Exploration of Evidence-Informed Approaches to Learning and Development

published 2 years ago

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You can find Jeroen and TechWolf on LinkedIn here:

Jeroen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeroenvanhautte/
TechWolf: https://www.linkedin.com/company/techwolf/

TechWolf's website is: https://techwolf.com/

Two more links referred to in the show are:

A guide to building a resilient ecosystem
A guide to building the foundations for your skill-based organisation

53 episodes

#Clark Quinn #Markus Bernhardt #Matthew Richter #Training #Development #Leadership #Podcasting Education #Matthew Richter, Clark Quinn, Markus Bernhardt #Learn #Debunked

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SHOW ME HOW YOU DO IT WITH SOFIE WILLOX: Charles-Louis de Maere 16:13

10 weeks ago16:13

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SHOW ME HOW YOU DO IT is the new LDA VLOG and podcast brought to you by our friend, Sofie Willox. In each episode Sofie will interview an expert. These experts come from various domains within and surrounding L&D. Sofie interviews them on video. The videos will reside within the LDA community, but we wanted to nonetheless still share them and decided to post them here in the podcast feed. We hope you enjoy! This first interview is with another LDA friend, Charles-Louis de Maere. The following are his own words about his work. "Bringing people together is something that lives on through my workshops and training. Whether they take place online or on-premise, I facilitate workshops and learning experiences that focus on high participation, on learning by doing and verifying that the concepts are integrated. I use Live Online Learning Activities to ensure people get a chance to practice their understanding of the new concepts. "What better way is there to give meaning to what we say than to draw to make our thoughts explicit? When we add visual information to what we’re saying, suddenly our intention becomes much more precise, and we can begin to work on shared understanding. This is why I love bringing people in contact with the power of Visual Thinking, of getting back to our roots and using pen and paper to bring people closer together." The best place to find Charles-Louis is LinkedIn. He is prolific there and always finding ways to add value. https://www.linkedin.com/in/charleslouisdemaere/…

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The "Who's AI" Episode with Paige Bradbury 1:01:06

20 weeks ago1:01:06

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Clark and Matt are delighted to be joined by Paige Bradbury… an expert on using LLMs— specifically for those of us novices. She is particularly expert at developing the right prompts to get useful, and more importantly, accurate responses from the LLM. We learn about things like hallucinations… prompt drift… context windows… explainable AI... xAI… and more! We talk about the work, time, and money that go into writing good and effective prompts, let alone using AI in general. And Paige shares plenty of examples along the way. We talk about different LLM options and LLM databases. We connect to previous LDA Podcast episodes and discuss IP and ethical usage of AI and LLMs. And we end the episode with a survey of the current and future state of AI-- at a very high level. You can learn more about Paige’s upcoming March 19, 2025, LDA program here: https://ldaccelerator.com/sessions#calendar-3caaa5f3-7151-409b-b39d-16b86bfe5253-event-m5u16n4b You can learn more about Paige… and connect with her here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/id-by-paige/ .…

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AI and L&D Insights: The "Learning Without Platforms" Episode with Sarah Mercier 45:53

24 weeks ago45:53

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Summary In this episode of AI and L&D Insights , Markus Bernhardt speaks with Sarah Mercier, CEO of Build Capable, about her patented innovations in learning technology. Sarah challenges outdated LMS models, introduces her groundbreaking XCL tool for decentralized content delivery and tracking, and reveals how AI can unlock powerful insights—provided the data is meaningful. With decades of expertise and a vision for the future, Sarah’s approach is a game-changer for modern learning. You can find more about Sarah, here: Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahcmercier/ Websites – Build Capable: https://buildcapable.com Build Capable XCL: https://buildxcl.com…

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The "Desirable Difficulties" Episode 50:35

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NOTE: This podcast was recording in November, 2024. Today, Clark and Matt are joined once again by our dear friend, Nidhi Sachdeva. We talk about Desirable Difficulties, originally coined by Robert Bjork and further explored with him and his wife, Elizabeth Bjork. A great overview paper can be found here: https://bjorklab.psych.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2016/04/EBjork_RBjork_2011.pdf Of course, we talk about the five strategies to foster desirable difficulties: Spaced Learning/ Distributed Practice Retrieval Practice/ The Testing Effect Interleaving Contextual Interference Reduced Feedback We even take a brief detour on whether note taking is effective. And of course, the answer is nuanced... see more here, from Paul Kirschner: https://3starlearningexperiences.wordpress.com/2023/05/09/longhand-notetaking-is-worth-using/ Clark references Mihaly Robert Csikszentmihalyi's Flow... and frankly, the wiki page on it is pretty darn good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology)#:~:text=Flow%20state%20theory%20suggests%20that,key%20determinant%20of%20learning%20success. He also mentions Lev Vygotsky's Zone of Proximal Development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_proximal_development Matt references Thiagi's jolt called THE DAYS OF THE WEEK. Here is a video of the short activity: https://ldaccelerator.com/days-of-the-week-jolt Clark references MAKE IT STICK, by Brown, Roediger, and McDaniel: https://www.amazon.com/Make-Stick-Science-Successful-Learning/dp/B0DG1195CM , as well as their colleague, Pooja Argawal, and her book, POWER TEACHING: https://www.amazon.com/Powerful-Teaching-Unleash-Science-Learning/dp/111952184X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=powerful+teaching&qid=1572929667&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-3&linkCode=sl1&tag=retrievalprac-20&linkId=a877fbf2e13704463c6402641571742c&language=en_US We do mention the LDA Learning Science Conference 2024... and how Nidhi will be there presenting about Desirable Difficulties... However, the conference is now past. But, Nidhi will be at the upcoming LDA The Evidence-Informed Practitioner Conference in April, 2025 and repeating her work in the 2025 Learning Science Conference. ________________________________________________ More about Nidhi… Nidhi Sachdeva is an evidence-informed learning designer, post-secondary educator, researcher, and educational technology specialist. She is interested in designing and integrating evidence-informed instructional practices using various educational technology tools, including GenAI. Recently, she has been researching this through microlearning and cognitive science. Nidhi is the co-author of a newsletter called The Science of Learning , which aims to reduce gaps between educational research and instructional practice. She also chaired the ResearchEd Toronto conference 2024, ' Discovering the Science of Learning.' With almost 20 years of experience developing and facilitating learning content for both face-to-face and online courses within formal higher education, Nidhi is extremely passionate about integrating the Science of Learning into her pedagogical practice. She is currently teaching in the Teacher Education program at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE).…

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AI and L&D Insights: The ‘Coaching Your Copilot’ Episode with Kate Macartney 42:32

31 weeks ago42:32

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OVERVIEW In this episode, Markus Bernhardt is joined by Kate Macartney, CEO of MVM Strategies, to explore how AI tools like Microsoft's Copilot are reshaping the way we work. From personal productivity hacks to organization-wide transformations, Kate shares practical insights and real-world examples of how Copilot integrates seamlessly into workflows, making everyday tasks faster and smarter. Discover how organizations can unlock the potential of AI tools while navigating challenges like adoption, privacy, and cultural shifts. Kate also takes us behind the scenes of the Microsoft Ignite conference, revealing future trends in AI automation and business process enhancements. Whether you're just starting with AI or looking to scale its use across your organization, this episode offers a wealth of actionable advice and inspiration. HOW TO FIND KATE: Linkedin: Kate Macartney | LinkedIn Website: mvmstrategies.com CO-PILOT Copilot is free to try (not connected to apps, just for chat): https://copilot.microsoft.com/…

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AI and L&D Insights: VR Headsets and Hard Truths: Debbie Richards on Immersive Learning and AI Policies 40:54

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OVERVIEW In this episode, Debbie Richards and Markus dive into the cutting edge of immersive learning and the hard truths of AI policies. From navigating VR headsets to addressing the ethical challenges of AI in the workplace, Debbie shares invaluable insights for L&D professionals. Learn why a 'common sense' approach won’t cut it when managing AI, and how immersive tech is transforming the learning landscape. Tune in for practical advice on upskilling, reskilling, and making AI work for your organization—without sacrificing ethics or data security. Shownotes: Debbie Richards on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cre8iveii/ Creative Interactive Ideas - https://cre8iveii.com/ AR/VR article - https://www.learningguild.com/articles/immersive-frontiers-transforming-learning-with-ar--vr/ Notebook LM from google - https://notebooklm.google/ L&D Cares - https://www.ldcares.org/…

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AI and L&D Insights: Troughs, Truths, and Tech Turbulence: Navigating AI’s Messy Middle 46:17

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With Special Guest, Chris Pedder Think AI is all about buzzwords and breakthrough moments? Think again. Markus and Chris navigate the gritty reality of AI’s ‘messy middle’—the point where big ideas meet even bigger challenges. Grab your headset and get ready for an unexpected dive into the future of tech, where innovation truly happens after the hype fades. From ethical dilemmas to economic realities, this episode will change how you see AI’s role in our world. Links and Connections from the Episode Chris Pedder - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-jb-pedder/ Obrizum - https://obrizum.com/ Ray Kurzweil - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil Perplexity - https://www.perplexity.ai/ you.com - https://you.com/ Corey Doctorow on Enshittification - https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys Nick Bostrum on Paperclips - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781118922590.ch23 IBM article on AI Alignment - https://research.ibm.com/blog/what-is-alignment-ai Anil Seth on Consciousness and AI - https://osf.io/preprints/psyarxiv/tz6an…

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SPECIAL: The "What the Heck is AI?" Episode with Lori Niles-Hofmann and Stella Lee 1:12:56

40 weeks ago1:12:56

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We take a break from our regularly featured programming. The following is the audio from a special, informal discussion about AI that LDA recently produced for our community. We thought it lent itself nicely to the podcast, as well. In this special discussion, Lori Niles-Hofmann and Stella Lee school Matt on the basic ins and outs of AI. We talk about what AI is. We talk about the different types of AI. Matt asks whether the world of Terminator is soon coming to pass! Stella and Lori correct that notion. We dive into the ethical issues that using AI impact both short-, and long-term. We delve into how information gets curated on different AI platforms. We explore the implications in general, as well as for L&D, when using AI. Specifically we look at the practical implications. Can we use AI to help us solve some of those wicked problems we face? Lori and Stella share advice on how to engage with vendors pushing their AI offerings. Or, at least some questions one might ask when others are authorized to buy, but you have to use it. Speaking of practical… and speaking of ethics… when is it ok to use AI when constructing designs, writing, or researching? What are hallucinations? When does the AI misunderstand us? How do we misunderstand what we get from it? While many are way more educated and knowledgeable about AI than Matt. Many others are still confused about what it all means and what it does— but are frankly, slightly… mildly… embarrassed to ask. Ok… Matt admits, he had no clue what generative AI referred to instead of “regular” AI. But he does now, as a result of Stella and Lori's educational explanations. The bottom line is this special program provides the highlights of AI basics as it pertains to L&D. We hope you enjoy! _____________________________________________ More about Lori and Stella: Lori Niles-Hofmann Lori is a senior learning strategist with over 20 years’ of L&D experience. Specializing in large-scale digital learning transformation, Lori is passionate about helping companies navigate the ambiguity of change. After leading and completing numerous EdTech implementations, Lori has developed the data-based methodologies and frameworks that empower L&D teams to move from a business support function to strategic business driver. Lori is currently based in Toronto, Canada with one foot in Europe. STELLA LEE With over 20 years of experience in the e-learning and edtech industry, Stella is a director at Paradox Learning, a consulting firm that provides and evaluates innovative learning solutions across multiple devices, cultures, and platforms. She work with clients from various sectors, such as government, education, non-profit, and corporate, to help them achieve their learning and development goals with data-driven and technology-enabled approaches. As a consultant, startup advisor, writer, speaker, community organizer, educator, and researcher, she is passionate about sharing her insights and expertise on e-learning, edtech, AI, learning analytics, adaptive and personalized learning, and more.…

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AI and L&D Insights: AI Agents Unleashed: Chatbots that Do More Than Chat 21:08

43 weeks ago21:08

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Guest: Vince Han, CEO of Mobile Coach Summary: In this episode of AI & L&D Insights, Markus Bernhardt dives into the world of proactive AI with Vince Han, the visionary behind Mobile Coach. Together, they explore the game-changing evolution from passive chatbots to AI agents that do more than just answer questions—they engage, assist, and even anticipate your needs. Join us as we break down how AI agents are revolutionizing learning and development, from onboarding new hires to creating seamless, proactive user experiences. Vince shares how chatbots are moving beyond surface-level interactions to becoming indispensable virtual colleagues in your workflow. Whether you’re interested in L&D, AI innovation, or the future of work, this episode offers practical insights into how AI agents are reshaping the workplace—faster than you think. REFERENCES Vince's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincehan/ Mobile Coach Website: www.mobilecoach.com Eliza https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA…

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The "And the Award Goes to..." Episode 54:51

45 weeks ago54:51

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We are rejoined by Will Thalheimer to talk about one of his favorite topics, awards in the L&D industry. Should we have them? Should we give them out? How do we do it better… if at all? We explore a pretty exhaustive list of the general issues with using and distributing awards among industry professionals by industry professional groups. Heck, we even find a few good points to support the tradition, as well. Are these industry awards fair? Are they judged effectively and fairly? What are, and should, be the criteria for winning an award? What rubric is used? Who designs the rubric? Are we even rewarding the “right” stuff (whatever that means)? What about money? Application fees? And paying for the awards? Bias? Vendor relationships? Heck, are these awards even manageable… doable in order to ensure claimed standards and fairness? ‎Is an evolving approach, perhaps to think about certification? Who judges the judges? Will even hands out an award called the Neon Elephant Award, as he attempts to bypass many of the issues we discuss. You can learn more about it here: https://www.worklearning.com/2010/11/02/neon-elephant-award/ . Does he succeed? Yes— we know there are tons of awards out there, so we are speaking generically. But the questions of fairness and appropriate judgement still hold. Matt references NASAGA. The North American Simulation and Gaming Association. We also reference ISPI, the International Society for Performance Improvement. Any conversation about awards within the context of L&D would, and should, lead to a conversation about program and practitioner evaluation. We, of couse, talk about Will’s Learning Transfer Evaluation Model (LTEM). You can learn more about that here: https://www.worklearning.com/ltem/ . Will brings up one of his passion ideas… that within L&D, we should have independent journalists investigating and report on how we do, what we do, and what we could do better. He originally talks it about it in the LDA Podcast, Episode 4. And what about impact? Is impact the key? Or, are we missing the boat? What about the differences between learning and impact? How do we ensure that our learning engagement was actually the cause of the identified impact. LDA had the wonderful, Alex Edmans, from the London Business School, on our MEET THE AUTHOR Series. The video is here: https://members.ldaccelerator.com/c/meet-the-author-space/meet-the-author-alex-edmans . We reference his new book, May Contain Lies. You can find the book and learn more about Alex, here: https://alexedmans.com/books/ Will’s new book is The CEO’s Guide to Training, eLearning, and Work. You can learn more and buy it here: https://www.ceosguide.net . You can learn more about Will here: https://www.worklearning.com/about/ .…

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AI and L&D Insights: Learning in the Flow of Life: A Conversation with Katja Schipperheijn 18:35

47 weeks ago18:35

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Summary/Teaser: In this episode of the AI and L&D Insights Podcast, Markus sits down with Katja Schipperheijn, a pioneer in learning ecosystems and recently named a 2024 Power Woman. Katja shares her journey from traditional sales training to spearheading innovative learning environments that prioritize social collaboration and AI-driven personalization. Discover how Katja’s concept of "Learning in the Flow of Life" challenges conventional educational models and why embracing a Learning Mindset is critical for both personal and organizational growth. Tune in to explore the future of learning, where technology and human curiosity meet. Shownotes: Book "The Learning Mindset": https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Mindset-Combining-Competencies-Technology/dp/1398617334/ref=sr_1_1 Book "Learning Ecosystems": https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Ecosystems-Innovative-Tech-driven-Strategies/dp/1398607401/ref=sr_1_2 Katja on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katjaschipperheijn/ Katja on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katjaschipperheijn/ The Learning Mindset: https://thelearningmindset.org/…

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The "Game Show" Episode 1:14:04

48 weeks ago1:14:04

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In this episode, Matt and Clark are joined by the great Karl Kapp. We dive into a favorite topic… using commercial games for learning. Shameless plug… The Commercial Games Workshop with Karl Kapp and Matt on December 11-12, 2024 in Philadelphia. We talk about how to utilize games and activities for team building and ensure they become both domain specific and transfer back to the workplace. We also distinguish between cooperative and competitive gaming experiences, as well as their respective pros and cons. We discuss tips, constraints, and applications for using games— specifically commercial games. The game itself is never the goal… we talk about how to leverage the game to reach an instructional purpose. We talk about balancing fun and the objective. We talk about debriefing game play. Karl refers to war gaming. Learning is a system. A game is a system that is a part of that greater learning system. Clark refers to Kurt Squire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Squire Game of Phones— Kris Rockwell: https://briandusablon.com/2011/07/01/a-game-of-phones/ Matt references Board Game Geek. https://boardgamegeek.com Wil Wheaton's Tabletop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THjo1hjtz0g&list=PL7atuZxmT956cWFGxqSyRdn6GWhBxiAwE Games mentioned: Civilization Escape Rooms Timeline Forbidden Island New York Times’ Flashback Fluxx Break the Safe ‎Monopoly ‎Oregon Trail ‎Lost Dutchman Goldmine (by Scott Simmerman) ‎Risk ‎Stratego ‎Ticket to Ride ‎Age of Empires ‎Pandemic ‎Barnga ‎War ‎Gin Rummy ‎Ninety-Nine ‎Cards Against Humanity ‎Titan Quest ‎Firefly ‎‎Code Names NYT Connections ‎Reigns ‎Candy Crush ‎Plants vs. Zombies ‎Murder by Choice ‎JJ Abrams’ S. Temple Run ‎The Dwarf King ‎Hanabi ‎‎Guillotine ‎Hearts ‎Pitch ‎Cassino ‎NYT Strands A bit about Karl… He has over 27 years of experience as a professor of instructional technology and 15 years as the Director of the Institute for Interactive Technologies at Bloomsburg University— now Commonwealth University, He helps people understand the convergence of learning, technology, games and game-thinking through fun, laughter and insight. As the founder of the Learning and Development Mentor Academy, he provides seasoned L&D professionals with access to a library of on-demand, self-paced workshops, monthly live sessions, and a vibrant community of peers and experts. Karl also co-founded Enterprise Game Stack, a company that designs, develops and delivers online, digital card activities and games that keep participants focused, engaged, and collaborative, while reinforcing learning both in the moment and over time. You can find Karl on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karlkapp/ Or on his website, https://karlkapp.com…

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AI and L&D Insights: Navigating AI Adoption with Jon Fletcher 44:22

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Summary: In this episode of the AI and L&D Insights podcast, Markus Bernhardt hosts Jon Fletcher, an AI adoption specialist, to discuss the current landscape of AI integration in people and learning functions. They explore the recent slowdown in AI adoption, the challenges of balancing individual and organizational AI use, and the critical role of ethical and regulatory considerations, such as the EU AI Act. Jon emphasizes the need for clear AI strategies, proper training, and a holistic approach to redesigning workflows to support employees effectively. Join Markus and Jon for valuable insights on navigating the complexities of AI adoption in learning and development. For more information: Jon Fletcher www.linkedin.com/in/jnf Jon Fletcher's website https://www.jonfletcher.ai The EU AI Act https://www.europarl.europa.eu/topics/en/article/20230601STO93804/eu-ai-act-first-regulation-on-artificial-intelligence https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-zwingmann/…

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The "How In the Skills Could You Say That?" Episode 1:02:26

52 weeks ago1:02:26

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We are delighted to have the great Koreen Pagano join the podcast for the furthering conversation on skills. We get Koreen’s perspective and definition of skills. Matt alludes to the earlier LDA Podcast, The “What the Skills” Episode with Paul Kirschner, as well as the research work he did with John Sweller and Richard Clark published in their article: Kirschner, P.A., Sweller, J., & Clark, R.E. (2006). Why minimal guidance during instruction does not work: An analysis of the failure of constructivist discovery, problem-based, experiential, and inquiry-based teaching. Educational Psychologist . 41(2), 75-86. In the episode, we dig into whether one can teach, and how one can teach, conflict resolution, critical thinking, and even tease the subject of teaching leadership. The debate really gets playfully heated when they talk about critical thinking. Clark uses the famous phrase, “yes… and…” Matt references the great improv in business practitioner, Kat Koppett. Her first book, Training to Imagine is a great source to go into yes, anding… in more depth. Matt references evolutionary skills and brings up the references from Sweller: Sweller, J. (2016). Cognitive Load Theory: What We Learn and How We Learn. In M. Spector, B. Lockee, & M. Childress (Eds.), Learning, design, and technology (pp. 1–28). Springer. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-319-17727-4_50-1 And Geary Geary, D. C. (2008). An evolutionarily informed education science. Educational Psychologist, 43(4), 179–195. https://doi.org/10.1080/00461520802392133 We discuss what it means to master skills, and develop automation. We also explore how to assess whether a person has a skill or the potential to develop a skill. We debate transferability and whether skills— especially complex skills need be taught within a contextual domain. Matt argues yes. Koreen argues no. Clark argues “ It depends .” They also debate whether, and how much, talent plays into skill development. Heck… is talent even a thing? The big argument centers around Carnegie Hall and playing golf! And of course, Anders Ericsson is a part of the conversation. Ericsson, K. A., & Charness, N. (1994). Expert performance: Its structure and acquisition. American Psychologist , 49: 725–747. Matt referenced the Human Development expert, Richard Lerner. Koreen references the hostage negotiator, Chris Voss and his book, Never Split the Difference. And we even debate how transferrable the skill of game design is! And we talked about so much more!!! Of course, we run out of time because we had so much fun chatting with Koreen… that we didn’t get to Best and Worst! Next time… and Koreen will be back! More about Koreen: Koreen Pagano, Chief Product Officer at Thrive Learning and founder of Isanno, is a globally recognized product executive with deep expertise in learning technologies, skills strategy, AI, analytics, and immersive technologies. Koreen has held product leadership roles at companies including Lynda.com, LinkedIn, D2L, Degreed, and Wiley. Koreen previously founded Tandem Learning in 2008, where she pioneered immersive learning through virtual worlds, games, and simulations. She has taught graduate courses at Harrisburg University and provided advisory and consulting services to a range of tech companies in the corporate learning, VR, and K12 education markets. Koreen is a seasoned international speaker, author of the book Immersive Learning and an upcoming book on organizational skills transformation due out in 2025. You can find Koreen here: https://isanno.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/koreenpagano/…

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AI and L&D Insights: From Simulations to Social Learning: AI in Action 24:43

1 year ago24:43