173: The 80% Rule: How Leaders Can Overcome Fear, Stress, and Self-Doubt | Derek Sloan
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Why does stress feel so normal in the workplace? Why does our mind default to the worst case scenario? And what’s the cost of this being our normal day to day life?
In this episode, Damon sits down with Derek Sloan, who’s a licensed therapist, executive coach, and founder of Abridge Leadership to explore why so many professionals silently battle negativity and self-doubt, and what leaders can do to break the cycle.
Whether you're navigating organizational change, dealing with anxious thoughts, or trying to model vulnerability in a remote workplace, this episode offers practical tools backed by psychology and made for the real world.
In this episode you’ll learn:
- What The 80% Rule is—and how it can transform how you lead
- The hidden cost of “normalized” workplace stress
- Why vulnerability is a leadership superpower (when done right)
- The difference between confidence and self-efficacy
- How to spot fear-based thinking on your team
- Practical ways leaders can create clarity, safety, and connection
- And so much more!
Timestamps:
00:21 – Why our brains default to negativity (60,000 thoughts, 80% negative)
01:53 – The thought-emotion-behavior chain: how negativity spreads
03:42 – What happens when dysfunction is normalized at work
05:45 – Breaking down The 80% Rule (3 surprising stats)
09:00 – Addressing real pain vs. future-focused fear
10:25 – The traps leaders fall into under stress
12:23 – A case study: when a promotion becomes a source of burnout
16:05 – What leaders can do during times of uncertainty
18:45 – The power of focusing on controllables
19:24 – 3 controllables: showing up as your best, staying hopeful, being transparent
22:30 – Why vulnerability matters more than ever
25:15 – Healthy vs. unhealthy vulnerability: where leaders get it wrong
29:09 – Understanding fear: how our brains exaggerate the future
33:27 – Self-efficacy vs. confidence—and why both matter
36:05 – How to give better feedback (that actually develops talent)
39:14 – Recognizing negativity loops in your team
41:39 – Why listening—not fixing—is your leadership edge
44:00 – The post-COVID shift: employees expect to be cared for
45:32 – Can remote work ever match in-person connection?
48:21 – Why loneliness is a hidden workplace epidemic
50:15 – Final takeaway: Take inventory. Where are you now—and how long have you been there?
About the Guest:
Derek Sloan is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC), Certified Clinical Trauma Professional (CCTP), and National Certified Counselor (NCC), He has experience in providing mental health and behavioral health services to individuals, couples, and groups. He founded and continues to operate a private practice in Kentucky.
Derek is also a Certified Executive Coach and has a passion for leadership development. This has been a lifelong pursuit through his graduate degree in organizational leadership, building businesses, and leadership coaching/consulting. He works with executive leaders in top-level and industry-leading organizations, helping them enhance their emotional intelligence, communication skills, and decision-making abilities. His mission is to help organizations achieve their goals by prioritizing both leadership and mental health.
Resources & Mentions:
- Follow Derek on LinkedIn
- Visit Derek's Leadership company Abridge Leadership
- Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
- Derek’s Podcast: Mental Stillness
- Damon's appearance on Mental Stillness: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/38-special-guest-damon-lembi/id1717076433?i=1000703632140
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