DC in Tiers: From Superman to F*** You Forever

The Middle of Culture

In this lively and irreverent episode of The Middle of Culture, Peter and Eden build a tier list ranking 29 DC movies, from the highs of Christopher Reeve's iconic Superman to the lows of Black Adam, which earns a new category all its own: "F*** You Forever." Along the way, they debate the merits of Nolan's Batman trilogy, praise Margot Robbie while trashing her material, and wax poetic about Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman and the ridiculous joy of Catwoman (2004). The episode also dives into recent reads, including the emotionally devastating Adachi and Shimamura 99.9, with Eden delivering an impassioned recounting that might just wreck you. Add in some heat-dome weather talk, tech-death music recs, and plenty of hot takes, and you've got one of the most entertaining episodes yet.

Episode Notes:

Welcome Back

• Eden shares weather misery and emotional tales of crying over Adachi and Shimamura
• Peter updates on his son's relentless swim meet schedule and praises the dedication of teen athletes

What We're Into

• Eden continues to love The Apothecary Diaries, now reading it aloud with Cassi
• Deep emotional dive into Adachi and Shimamura 99.9, including:
  • Cozy slice-of-life moments
  • Post-apocalyptic existentialism
  • A bittersweet afterlife reunion that left Eden in tears
• Peter shares his current reading on behavior change and playing Mario Kart with the kids
• Metal music recs from Peter:
  • Fallujah and Exocrine (tech-death highlights)
  • Sigh's re-recording of Hangman's Hymn (2007 → 2025 edition)

The Tier List Begins

• 29 DC movies ranked from S-tier to a newly invented bottom tier
• Immediate praise for Superman: The Movie -- the only true S-tier film
• Batman Begins and The Batman hold strong in A-tier
• The Dark Knight lands at a controversial B, Dark Knight Rises flops to D
• Surprising affection for Catwoman bumps it up to C, while Suicide Squad, Justice League, and Black Adam are rightfully trashed
• Eden passionately defends the joyfully chaotic Batman & Robin, despite its execution
• Zack Snyder's Justice League makes it to B solely for its absurdity
• Lego Batman wins hearts, even from Eden who has a Lego movie vendetta

New Tier Created: "F*** You Forever"

• Reserved exclusively for Black Adam, a film so despised that Peter stopped watching anything with The Rock afterward

Wrap-Up

• One clear conclusion: 1978's Superman stands unmatched
• Richard Donner hailed as the god-tier director James Gunn can't touch
• Gentle roast of MCU's decline vs DC's chaotic legacy
• Call to action: listeners encouraged to weigh in via [email protected]