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529 Debate - Are 529s Helpful or Too Restrictive? Spencer & Jamie Have Differing Views on College Savings for Military Families#178
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Too restrictive or a key part of a military families financial planning? Today's episode is a no-holds-barred discussion about the pros, cons, and real-life strategies behind 529 plans.
Episode Summary:In this episode, Spencer and Jamie dive deep into the world of 529 college savings plans—a tax-advantaged tool designed to save for qualified education expenses. They explore the basics of how 529 plans work (after-tax contributions, tax-free growth, and penalty-free withdrawals on qualified education expenses) and highlight recent changes that expand their flexibility beyond just college tuition. The conversation unfolds as Spencer raises his skeptical questions, while Jamie defends the plan’s benefits by sharing personal experiences and strategies. From multi-generational planning to overcoming the challenge of overfunding, the discussion covers everything you need to know to determine if a 529 plan fits into your family’s financial strategy.
Key Discussion Points & Takeaways:Understanding 529 Fundamentals:
- Contributions are made with after-tax dollars, but the account grows tax-free, and withdrawals for qualified expenses (college, K–12 tuition, apprenticeship programs, computer equipment, and internet access) remain tax-free.
- Jamie explains the flexibility and evolving nature of 529 plans, including options to roll over funds to a Roth IRA (subject to annual limits and other restrictions) if the money isn’t immediately needed for education.
Flexibility vs. Restriction:
- Spencer shares his concerns about the plan’s restrictions and whether the benefits favor high-income families more than those who might truly need the tax advantages.
- Jamie counters by emphasizing that the primary goal is to ensure your child’s educational expenses are covered, while also noting that any “overfunding” isn’t a total loss—it comes with backup options like beneficiary changes and penalty adjustments if funds are withdrawn for non-qualified purposes.
Practical Money Management:
- Real-life insights on how to balance your overall financial strategy: build a solid retirement plan, clear debt, and then contribute to a 529 plan once you’ve established your own financial security.
- Jamie outlines his personal approach, including how much he’s contributed over the years and his strategy for managing contributions as his children get closer to college age.
- Discussion of exit strategies: potential rollovers, transferring balances between beneficiaries, and even using scholarship funds to unlock part of the 529 savings without penalties.
Generational and Strategic Considerations:
- Beyond college savings, the episode explores whether 529 plans can serve as a mechanism for a multi-generational legacy—providing educational support for nieces, nephews, or future grandchildren.
- The balance between maximizing tax-free growth and maintaining account flexibility is a recurring theme, with both hosts stressing the importance of aligning a 529 plan with your broader financial plan.
- Evaluate Your Priorities: Before you start pouring funds into a 529 plan, ensure you’ve taken care of high-priority items like debt repayment and retirement savings.
- Start Early: Open an account when your child is young. Even small, regular contributions can accumulate significantly over time.
- Customize According to Your Needs: Understand that the “perfect” plan isn’t one-size-fits-all. Consider factors like potential state tax deductions, investment options (like Vanguard 529’s low-cost index fund style), and your own financial situation.
- Plan for Flexibility: Keep in mind exit strategies (such as rollovers to Roth IRAs and changing beneficiaries) so that if your situation changes, you’re not locked into funds you can’t use as intended.
If this episode sparked some thoughts about your child’s educational future or your family’s financial planning, drop us a message on Instagram or visit our website at MilitaryMoneyManual.com.
Links mentioned:
- Kate Horrell's College Savings resources
- Episode 124 w/ Kate Horrell
- Episode 165 w/ Daniel Kopp
- FINRED flyer on 529s
For a limited time, Spencer is offering one-on-one Military Money Mentor sessions! Get your personal military money and investing questions answered in a confidential coaching call.
Our new TSP course is live! Check out the Confident TSP Investing course at militarymoneymanual.com/tsp to learn all about the Thrift Savings Plan and strategies for growing your wealth while in the military. Use promo code "podcast24" for $50 off. Plus, for every course sold, we'll donate one course to an E-4 or below- for FREE!
If you have a question you would like us to answer on the podcast, please reach out on instagram.com/militarymoneymanual or email [email protected].
If you want to maximize your military paycheck, check out Spencer's 5 star rated book The Military Money Manual: A Practical Guide to Financial Freedom on Amazon or at shop.militarymoneymanual.com.
I also offer a 100% free course on military travel hacking and getting annual fee waived credit cards, like The Platinum Card® from American Express, the American Express® Gold Card, and the Chase Sapphire Reserve® Card in my Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3.
Learn how to get your annual fees waived on premium credit cards from American Express in the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3.
The Platinum Card® from American Express and the American Express® Gold Card waive the annual fee for active duty military servicemembers, including Guard and Reserve on active orders over 30 days. The annual fees on all personal Amex cards are also waived for military spouses married to active duty troops.
182 episodes
Manage episode 487778239 series 3457189
Too restrictive or a key part of a military families financial planning? Today's episode is a no-holds-barred discussion about the pros, cons, and real-life strategies behind 529 plans.
Episode Summary:In this episode, Spencer and Jamie dive deep into the world of 529 college savings plans—a tax-advantaged tool designed to save for qualified education expenses. They explore the basics of how 529 plans work (after-tax contributions, tax-free growth, and penalty-free withdrawals on qualified education expenses) and highlight recent changes that expand their flexibility beyond just college tuition. The conversation unfolds as Spencer raises his skeptical questions, while Jamie defends the plan’s benefits by sharing personal experiences and strategies. From multi-generational planning to overcoming the challenge of overfunding, the discussion covers everything you need to know to determine if a 529 plan fits into your family’s financial strategy.
Key Discussion Points & Takeaways:Understanding 529 Fundamentals:
- Contributions are made with after-tax dollars, but the account grows tax-free, and withdrawals for qualified expenses (college, K–12 tuition, apprenticeship programs, computer equipment, and internet access) remain tax-free.
- Jamie explains the flexibility and evolving nature of 529 plans, including options to roll over funds to a Roth IRA (subject to annual limits and other restrictions) if the money isn’t immediately needed for education.
Flexibility vs. Restriction:
- Spencer shares his concerns about the plan’s restrictions and whether the benefits favor high-income families more than those who might truly need the tax advantages.
- Jamie counters by emphasizing that the primary goal is to ensure your child’s educational expenses are covered, while also noting that any “overfunding” isn’t a total loss—it comes with backup options like beneficiary changes and penalty adjustments if funds are withdrawn for non-qualified purposes.
Practical Money Management:
- Real-life insights on how to balance your overall financial strategy: build a solid retirement plan, clear debt, and then contribute to a 529 plan once you’ve established your own financial security.
- Jamie outlines his personal approach, including how much he’s contributed over the years and his strategy for managing contributions as his children get closer to college age.
- Discussion of exit strategies: potential rollovers, transferring balances between beneficiaries, and even using scholarship funds to unlock part of the 529 savings without penalties.
Generational and Strategic Considerations:
- Beyond college savings, the episode explores whether 529 plans can serve as a mechanism for a multi-generational legacy—providing educational support for nieces, nephews, or future grandchildren.
- The balance between maximizing tax-free growth and maintaining account flexibility is a recurring theme, with both hosts stressing the importance of aligning a 529 plan with your broader financial plan.
- Evaluate Your Priorities: Before you start pouring funds into a 529 plan, ensure you’ve taken care of high-priority items like debt repayment and retirement savings.
- Start Early: Open an account when your child is young. Even small, regular contributions can accumulate significantly over time.
- Customize According to Your Needs: Understand that the “perfect” plan isn’t one-size-fits-all. Consider factors like potential state tax deductions, investment options (like Vanguard 529’s low-cost index fund style), and your own financial situation.
- Plan for Flexibility: Keep in mind exit strategies (such as rollovers to Roth IRAs and changing beneficiaries) so that if your situation changes, you’re not locked into funds you can’t use as intended.
If this episode sparked some thoughts about your child’s educational future or your family’s financial planning, drop us a message on Instagram or visit our website at MilitaryMoneyManual.com.
Links mentioned:
- Kate Horrell's College Savings resources
- Episode 124 w/ Kate Horrell
- Episode 165 w/ Daniel Kopp
- FINRED flyer on 529s
For a limited time, Spencer is offering one-on-one Military Money Mentor sessions! Get your personal military money and investing questions answered in a confidential coaching call.
Our new TSP course is live! Check out the Confident TSP Investing course at militarymoneymanual.com/tsp to learn all about the Thrift Savings Plan and strategies for growing your wealth while in the military. Use promo code "podcast24" for $50 off. Plus, for every course sold, we'll donate one course to an E-4 or below- for FREE!
If you have a question you would like us to answer on the podcast, please reach out on instagram.com/militarymoneymanual or email [email protected].
If you want to maximize your military paycheck, check out Spencer's 5 star rated book The Military Money Manual: A Practical Guide to Financial Freedom on Amazon or at shop.militarymoneymanual.com.
I also offer a 100% free course on military travel hacking and getting annual fee waived credit cards, like The Platinum Card® from American Express, the American Express® Gold Card, and the Chase Sapphire Reserve® Card in my Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3.
Learn how to get your annual fees waived on premium credit cards from American Express in the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3.
The Platinum Card® from American Express and the American Express® Gold Card waive the annual fee for active duty military servicemembers, including Guard and Reserve on active orders over 30 days. The annual fees on all personal Amex cards are also waived for military spouses married to active duty troops.
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