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How Can Therapists Accept (and Impact) Technology?: An interview with Dr. David Cooper
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How Can Therapists Accept (and Impact) Technology?: An interview with Dr.
David Cooper
Curt and Katie chat with Dr. David Cooper of Therapists in
Tech to explore the evolving role of artificial intelligence (AI) in therapy.
Dr. Cooper highlights the importance of tech literacy, privacy, and security in
digital mental health while advocating for therapists to use AI as a tool for
efficiency rather than replacement. He compares this shift to the transition
from paper charts to electronic health records (EHRs) and encourages therapists
to stay informed and engaged through communities like Therapists in Tech and
the Society for Digital Mental Health.
Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com!
In this podcast episode, we talk about how therapists can engage with technology
At the Behavioral Tech Conference, Katie met Dr. David
Cooper of therapists in tech. We invited him on to help us understand better how
therapists can engage with technology safely and ethically. As AI continues to
integrate into mental health care, therapists must embrace innovation while
advocating for ethical, client-centered practices.
How can therapists engage with AI and digital health responsibly?
- Use AI tools like ChatGPT for administrative efficiency and tech troubleshooting.
- Advocate for digital health education in graduate training programs.
- Seek guidance from digital health experts through groups like Therapists in Tech.
- Implement technology for administrative tasks, such as automated reminders and billing.
- Stay informed and connected with digital mental health advancements through professional communities.
Key Takeaways from this podcast interview with Dr. David Cooper of
Therapists in Tech
- AI can enhance, not replace, therapy, improving efficiency in practice management.
- Ethical considerations remain crucial, especially regarding privacy and data security.
- Tech literacy is a necessary skill for all therapists as the field evolves.
- Therapists should take an active role in digital health advocacy to maintain the human element in care.
Resources for Therapists Adapting to Digital Health:
- Therapists in Tech – A community for professionals navigating digital mental health.
- Society for Digital Mental Health – A resource hub for therapists exploring tech solutions.
- Behavioral Health Tech Conference – A key event for learning and networking in digital health.
Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined
#TherapyMovement:
Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined
Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:
Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/
Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/
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Curt and Katie chat with Dr. David Cooper of Therapists in
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integrate into mental health care, therapists must embrace innovation while
advocating for ethical, client-centered practices.
How can therapists engage with AI and digital health responsibly?
- Use AI tools like ChatGPT for administrative efficiency and tech troubleshooting.
- Advocate for digital health education in graduate training programs.
- Seek guidance from digital health experts through groups like Therapists in Tech.
- Implement technology for administrative tasks, such as automated reminders and billing.
- Stay informed and connected with digital mental health advancements through professional communities.
Key Takeaways from this podcast interview with Dr. David Cooper of
Therapists in Tech
- AI can enhance, not replace, therapy, improving efficiency in practice management.
- Ethical considerations remain crucial, especially regarding privacy and data security.
- Tech literacy is a necessary skill for all therapists as the field evolves.
- Therapists should take an active role in digital health advocacy to maintain the human element in care.
Resources for Therapists Adapting to Digital Health:
- Therapists in Tech – A community for professionals navigating digital mental health.
- Society for Digital Mental Health – A resource hub for therapists exploring tech solutions.
- Behavioral Health Tech Conference – A key event for learning and networking in digital health.
Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined
#TherapyMovement:
Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined
Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits:
Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/
Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/
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1 What Do You Have to Offer? How Describing Your Ideal Client Might Be Repelling Good Enough Clients 36:11
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat Do You Have to Offer? How Describing Your Ideal Client Might Be Repelling Good Enough Clients Curt and Katie chat about common mistakes therapists make when writing their websites and directories — especially using “ideal client” language that may turn away the very clients they want to help. They explore how to write therapist website copy that’s client-centered, inclusive, and more effective for attracting referrals. Key Takeaways: Describing ideal clients too rigidly can unintentionally alienate potential referrals Language should reflect client experiences and therapy process — not just therapist preferences Blog posts are a flexible, strategic way to expand on specialty areas without over-niching Websites should be regularly updated to reflect current practice and make contact easy Listen to the full episode and access resources: https://therapyreimagined.com/podcast Join the Modern Therapist Community: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedMindfulness, EMDR, and Wearable Tech: An Interview with Dr. Steve Dansiger Curt and Katie chat with Dr. Steve Dansiger about integrating mindfulness into EMDR, what therapists often get wrong about mindfulness, and how wearable technology might enhance trauma healing. Steve shares his journey from punk rock drummer to EMDR trainer to tech innovator—and how sound and vibration may support grounding, resourcing, and trauma reprocessing. About Our Guest: Dr. Steve Dansiger Dr. Steve Dansiger is a clinical psychologist, EMDRIA-approved EMDR consultant, longtime mindfulness practitioner, and co-founder of HapTech Holdings. He is the creator of the MET(T)A Protocol and co-author of multiple books on EMDR, trauma, addiction, and mindfulness. Steve’s work spans clinical practice, innovation, and international teaching, bringing together ancient wisdom and cutting-edge tech. Key Takeaways: Therapists and clients often misunderstand mindfulness as “clearing the mind.” Mindfulness is already embedded in EMDR and helps stabilize and prepare for trauma work. Starting with just 1–2 minutes a day can be effective, especially with neurodivergent clients. Wearable tech using sound and vibration may help ground and resource clients in session and beyond. Therapists need to maintain their own mindfulness practice to model and teach it effectively. For full show notes, transcripts, and more episodes: 🔗 www.mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: 🌐 Linktree Creative Credits: 🎙 Voice Over by DW McCann 🎵 Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedRethinking Oppositional Defiant Disorder—Children Reacting to the System Around Them Curt and Katie chat about Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), reframing it as a response to systemic and environmental stressors rather than a characterological flaw in children. They explore diagnostic challenges, systemic bias, and treatment considerations that support children and families more holistically. This episode is designed to help therapists critically assess and intervene when working with oppositional or defiant behaviors. Course Available for CE Credit: One unit of continuing education is available for this episode at moderntherapistcommunity.com . Listen, purchase the course, pass the post-test, and earn your certificate! Key Takeaways: Understand how ODD criteria can be misapplied without systemic context Identify the impact of trauma, neurodivergence, and racism on misdiagnosis Apply a functional, family systems-based approach to treating oppositional behaviors Learn which interventions are evidence-based—and which to avoid Recognize the importance of treating ODD like an adjustment to environment, not a lifelong label Link to Full Show Notes: Full references, transcript, and resource list at mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Creative Credits: Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano – groomsymusic.com Voice Over by DW McCann – facebook.com/McCannDW…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow Virtual Clinical Supervision is Changing the Field: An Interview with Rachel Ledbetter, LMFT Curt and Katie chat with Rachel Ledbetter, LMFT, CEO and Co-Founder of Motivo, about how virtual supervision is transforming therapist training and professional development. We explore how technology can remove barriers for prelicensed clinicians, improve the supervision experience, and create space for mentorship beyond administrative oversight. Rachel also shares insights on the future of AI in mental health and what supervisors can do to better support early career therapists. Guest Bio: Rachel Ledbetter is the CEO and Co-Founder of Motivo Health, a pioneering platform dedicated to transforming the landscape of mental health care by facilitating virtual clinical supervision for behavioral health professionals. As a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT), Rachel's personal experiences navigating the licensure process have profoundly influenced her mission to remove barriers for aspiring therapists. Through Motivo, she continues to make a lasting impact by supporting the next generation of therapists and ensuring that quality mental health services are accessible to all. Key Takeaways: Supervision should focus on developing a clinician’s unique identity—not just administrative tasks. Virtual supervision increases access and continuity, especially for rural and underserved areas. Motivo actively tracks licensure requirements and verifies supervisor qualifications. AI can ease therapist burdens (e.g., documentation) but shouldn’t be used to raise productivity quotas. Supervisors are more effective when they support both professional development and self-of-the-therapist work. More info and full show notes at mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Creative Credits: Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano – groomsymusic.com Voiceover by DW McCann – facebook.com/McCannDW…
1 Why It’s Hard for Therapists to Be Friends: Understanding Boundaries, Identity, and Reciprocity 36:01
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhy It’s Hard for Therapists to Be Friends Curt and Katie chat about why therapists often struggle with friendships—especially with non-therapists. They explore the impact of emotional labor, overidentifying as caretakers, and the challenges of setting boundaries and expressing needs in personal relationships. Key Takeaways: Therapists often default to caretaking in friendships, especially if they have a history of being “the helper.” Emotional exhaustion from client work can make socializing difficult. Confidentiality and identity boundaries limit what therapists can share about their day. Friendships become healthier when therapists drop the therapist role and prioritize reciprocity. Intentional communication and boundary-setting help create sustainable relationships. More information and transcripts available at: https://mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: Linktree Creative Credits: Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano Voiceover by DW McCann…
1 Special Episode: Modern Therapist’s Consumer Guide on Relias 54:04
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedSpecial Episode: Modern Therapist's Consumer Guide on Relias Curt and Katie talk with Candace Wallace, Chief Customer Officer at Relias, about how this tech-enabled platform supports therapist training, infrastructure, and regulatory compliance. Candace explains how Relias helps practices of all sizes reduce admin burdens, improve staff retention, and compete in a changing behavioral health landscape. This episode is part of our Modern Therapist Consumer Guide, where we explore tools and services designed for therapists and their clients. About Our Guest: Candace Wallace is the Chief Customer Officer at Relias, overseeing Customer Success, Renewals, Support, and Professional Services. Since joining in 2013, she’s led several key teams and now focuses on delivering customer value at scale. With degrees in Archaeology and Religion from Baylor University, Candace’s career path includes both compliance consulting and a deep commitment to healthcare systems transformation. Key Takeaways: Relias reduces administrative burdens to improve patient care Solutions are tailored to solo, small, and large practices alike Training, leadership development, and compliance tracking in one platform Helps therapist-led organizations stay competitive and grow sustainably Started with small providers—continues to focus on accessible, effective tools For full show notes and transcripts, visit: https://www.mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: Linktree Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano…
1 How to Launch Therapy Intensives in Private Practice: An Interview with Steffeny Feld, LCSW 36:39
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedTitle: How to Launch Therapy Intensives in Private Practice: An Interview with Steffeny Feld, LCSW Description: Curt and Katie chat with Steffeny Feld, LCSW, Therapist and Creator of the Intensive Design Lab, about how therapists can bring therapy intensives into private practice. We explore how therapy intensives differ from traditional therapy, how to structure and prepare for intensives, clinical considerations for both clients and clinicians, and why this model can be particularly supportive for highly sensitive or neurodivergent therapists. About Our Guest: Steffeny Feld is a Therapist, Copywriter, and the Creator of the Intensive Design Lab where she supports therapists of all backgrounds and modalities to launch therapy intensives in private practice. Steffeny believes that therapy intensives are powerful and transformative for clients and the clinicians who offer them. She supports therapists to bring intensives into their practice so that they can work less and earn more while helping clients heal. Steffeny lives in St Louis, Missouri with her partner and 4-year-old son, Felix. Key Takeaways: Therapy intensives offer a distinct therapy format, not just longer sessions. Therapists must assess client readiness and window of tolerance carefully. Intensives can support therapist sustainability, especially for highly sensitive and neurodivergent clinicians. Practical considerations include session structure, pacing, and client comfort. Therapy intensives provide an opportunity for deep clinical work and income diversification. Link to Transcripts and Full Show Notes: https://mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann - https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano - https://groomsymusic.com/…
1 Curt’s Guide to Life: Real-World Advice for Therapists Navigating Their Careers 35:10
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedCurt’s Guide to Life: Real-World Advice for Therapists Navigating Their Careers Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy chat about the practical and meaningful life lessons Curt has gathered throughout his career as a therapist, supervisor, and leader. From networking and curiosity to flexibility and reputation, this episode offers real-world advice for therapists trying to build sustainable careers. Key Takeaways: Network laterally with peers at similar stages Stay curious—your clinical focus may evolve Learn by doing, not just studying Be kind and human in all professional interactions Protect your reputation—it’s everything Full show notes and transcript available at mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mtsgpodcast Podcast Homepage: https://therapyreimagined.com/modern-therapists-survival-guide-podcast-episodes/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyReimagined Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/therapyreimagined/ Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann – https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano – https://groomsymusic.com…
1 How Therapists Can Responsibly Support Disaster Mental Health: An Interview with Dr. Shannon Goodhue, LCSW, PhD 39:14
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow Therapists Can Responsibly Support Disaster Mental Health: An Interview with Dr. Shannon Goodhue, LCSW, PhD Curt and Katie chat with Dr. Shannon Goodhue about how therapists can ethically support disaster-impacted communities. We explore how disaster mental health differs from traditional therapy, why most people don’t need long-term services, and how trained professionals can provide stabilization and support in both local and national crises. Shannon outlines the American Red Cross training process, the structure of deployments, and the importance of understanding when to step in—and when not to. About Our Guest: Shannon Goodhue is the Senior Program Manager, Disaster Mental Health at the American Red Cross, overseeing the nationwide DMH team. With a PhD in International Psychology, a background in trauma and grief therapy, and past roles in D.C. disaster planning, Shannon brings deep experience in crisis response and ethical care. She’s also a former volunteer firefighter/EMT and currently lives in Virginia with her family. Key Takeaways: Disaster mental health is not the same as therapy Most survivors recover without mental health services Therapists must be trained and vetted before entering shelters Prevention and resilience-building are critical parts of crisis care Red Cross deployments can be virtual, local, or national More information and transcripts: mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Creative Credits: Hosted by Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano – https://groomsymusic.com Voice Over by DW McCann – https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW…
1 How Therapists Can Support Community-Building in Immigrant and Marginalized Populations: An Interview with Adriana Rodriguez, LMFT 45:25
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow Therapists Can Support Community-Building in Immigrant and Marginalized Populations: An Interview with Adriana Rodriguez, LMFT Curt and Katie chat with Adriana Rodriguez, LMFT, about how therapists can support clients from immigrant and marginalized communities in building and maintaining safe, affirming relationships. They explore cultural responsiveness, identity, risk appetite, and how therapists can expand their awareness and approach beyond individualistic norms. Guest Bio: Adri Rodriguez, LMFT is a therapist, educator, and host of Entre Tías y Amiguis Podcast. Their work focuses on generational healing, identity, and resilience through culturally grounded and justice-oriented approaches. Key Takeaways: Community is built on safety, belonging, and mutual understanding. Risk appetite and intersectionality must shape how clients engage with community. Therapists can use their online presence as a safety signal. Staying informed without burnout is a clinical responsibility. More Info: Full show notes and transcript available at mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community • Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann: facebook.com/McCannDW Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano: groomsymusic.com…
1 The Business of Therapy: Surviving Economic and Industry Disruptions 33:53
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThe Business of Therapy: Surviving Economic and Industry Disruptions Curt and Katie chat about how therapists can adapt to the changing business landscape of private practice, including fewer client inquiries, economic challenges, and increased competition. We share practical strategies for maintaining a sustainable therapy practice, improving marketing efforts, and building strong referral networks. Transcripts and additional information for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we discuss running a private practice during times of economic uncertainty We’ve heard a lot about the real-time challenges that therapists are facing in a changing business landscape. With a drop in inquiries, increased financial pressures on clients, and greater competition from virtual and AI-based services, private practice clinicians are feeling the pinch. We explore how to adapt your business model, rethink marketing strategies, and prioritize networking and flexibility to weather the storm and build a more resilient practice. What is the current state of private practice therapy businesses? • A drop in referrals and inquiries: Therapists are seeing fewer new client inquiries, especially compared to the pandemic boom. • Economic pressures on clients: Some are requesting fee reductions or shifting to less frequent sessions, even when practices are technically full. • Rising competition: Therapists are competing not just with other clinicians, but also with VC-backed platforms and AI services. What can private practice therapists do to navigate the current business climate? • The need for adaptability: Offering in-person and virtual options, adjusting your fee structure, and being flexible can help retain clients. • Business evolution: It’s more important than ever to regularly assess your practice’s expenses, operations, and marketing strategy. • Standing out in a crowded market: Specializing in specific modalities (like DBT or EMDR) and diversifying your service offerings (e.g., walk-and-talk therapy) can help. • Networking and community support: Building strong referral networks and staying connected with colleagues is essential in today’s climate. • Sustainability for therapists with additional needs: Flexibility can also support therapists who are neurodivergent or living with chronic illness. Key Takeaways from this podcast episode for therapists • Monitor your referral trends and be proactive about filling client gaps—even if your caseload seems full. • Adjust your practice model as needed—offering hybrid sessions or reduced fees may help sustain your income. • Reevaluate your expenses and time investments (marketing, admin, documentation) for a more efficient practice. • Stay current and visible by evaluating SEO, trying Google Ads, and maintaining a strong online presence. • Network consistently—both online and in-person—to build a robust referral stream. • Don’t be afraid to evolve. Practices that are nimble and responsive to change are more likely to succeed long-term. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
1 Special Episode: Modern Therapist’s Consumer Guide on Buying Time, LLC 50:25
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedSpecial Episode: Modern Therapist’s Consumer Guide on Buying Time, LLC Curt and Katie talk with Bibi Goldstein, of Buying Time, who provides virtual assistant services for therapists. Bibi shares her journey from starting a personal assistant service in 2007 to evolving into a comprehensive VA company. She emphasizes the importance of delegating tasks, using systems like QuickBooks and scheduling software, and maintaining consistent social media presence. Bibi's team provides comprehensive support, including bookkeeping, social media management, and email inbox management. Bibi stresses the importance of regular communication and flexibility to meet clients' needs. Curt and Katie highly recommend Buying Time for its efficiency and quality of service. This episode is part of our Modern Therapist Consumer Guide, where we explore innovative tools and services built for therapists and their clients. In this podcast episode we talk about how to effectively incorporate business systems and delegate to a Virtual Assistant company like Buying Time, LLC We talk with Bibi Goldstein about her business philosophy, strategic advice for therapists, and the services offered by her virtual assistant company, Buying Time. Interview with Bibi Goldstein, Buying Time 0:01:00 - Introduction 0:04:06 - Company Origin Story 0:11:46 - Advice for Therapists on Business Operations 0:16:34 - Social Media Strategy vs. Implementation 0:20:00 - Delegation and Task Management 0:34:14 - Virtual EA vs. Virtual Assistant 0:36:17 – How to vet a potential Virtual Assistance Company 0:40:04 - How to Sign Up with Buying Time 0:43:20 - Contact Information Curt and Katie Chat – Our review of Buying Time 0:45:24 – Katie and Curt talk through our impressions of Buying Time: We view Buying Time as an exceptional virtual support service that goes beyond typical administrative assistance, offering strategic guidance and practical solutions for therapists and entrepreneurs. A Special Offer for the listeners of Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide podcast from Buying Time Buying Time has put together a free Systems Inventory Checklist to help all of us to uncover hidden expenses and optimize spending in your practice. Go to buyingtimellc.com/mtsg to get your free checklist now! Relevant Links: • Website: buyingtimellc.com/mtsg • Email: service@buyingtimellc.com • Social Media: @buyingtimellc Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/…
1 Understanding Sexual Trauma and Hookup Culture in Therapy with Gay Men: An Interview with Michael Pezzullo, LMFT 35:27
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedUnderstanding Sexual Trauma and Hookup Culture in Therapy with Gay Men: An Interview with Michael Pezzullo, LMFT Curt and Katie chat with Michael Pezzullo, LMFT, about providing affirming and trauma-informed therapy for gay men. We explore common misconceptions therapists hold, the complexities of hookup culture, and how sexual trauma often shows up in subtle and misunderstood ways. We also look at how clinicians can better navigate issues of consent, drug use, and boundary violations when working with this population. Transcripts and more information for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we explore affirming, trauma-informed therapy for gay men We invited Michael Pezzullo to the podcast to discuss the often-overlooked nuances of working with gay men in therapy. From hookup culture to sexual trauma, Michael breaks down what therapists need to understand to avoid causing harm or misinterpreting client behavior. His perspective emphasizes the importance of clinical humility, cultural knowledge, and a collaborative approach. Common Therapist Mistakes When Working with Gay Men What Therapists Need to Understand About Hookup Culture, Risk, and Drug Use Addressing Sexual Trauma and Boundary Violations in the Gay Community Helping Gay Men in Building and Enforcing Boundaries Navigating Presenting, Shame, and the “Velvet Rage” Creating a Safe and Affirming Space for Gay Clients Using Social Media and Influencers as Cultural Education Therapist Takeaways Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
1 Therapy Insurance and Billing Trends for Private Practice in 2025: An Interview with Sanjana Sathya 43:09
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedTherapy Insurance and Billing Trends for Private Practice in 2025: An Interview with Sanjana Sathya Curt and Katie chat with Sanjana Sathya, co-founder of Thrizer, about the current landscape of mental health billing and insurance. Drawing from the 2025 State of Mental Health Insurance and Marketing report, Sanjana shares insights from hundreds of clinicians on reimbursement trends, hybrid practice models, and strategies for reducing administrative burden. They explore how therapists can make sustainable choices about private pay, insurance, and out-of-network billing — all while preparing for future changes in the mental health field. Transcripts and more information for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk about how insurance is working for therapy right now Therapists in private practice must make choices between insurance, private pay, or hybrid billing. They all have pros and cons that can shift as the economy and insurance reimbursement rates change. We talked with our partner, Sanjana Sathya from Thrizer about a survey they conducted to identify what the state of insurance is now. · Survey insights on therapist billing models · Pros and cons of accepting insurance as a therapist · Exploring private pay and hybrid models for therapy practices · What is out-of-network billing and how can therapists use this model to best effect? · How therapists can choose a trustworthy billing service · How to future-proof your therapy practices Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
1 Navigating Incel Culture: Therapy Approaches for Manosphere Clients 47:24
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedNavigating Incel Culture: Therapy Approaches for Manosphere Clients Curt and Katie respond to all the discussions that popped up about the Netflix series Adolescence and its portrayal of a 13-year-old boy accused of murder. We chat about the complexities of working with clients labeled as "incels." We also explore the importance of understanding the impact of that label (especially when clients are not self-identified as “incels”), internet culture - particularly the manosphere, and the challenges therapists can face when working with clients holding these beliefs. Transcripts and additional information for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we discuss working with clients labeled as "incels" Curt and Katie explore the focus on “incels” in the discussions about the Netflix series Adolescence. We dive into the nuances of understanding internet subcultures and how therapists can effectively work with clients influenced by the manosphere, while also addressing concerns about suicidality, homicidality, and therapy strategies. What is an "Incel" and where does that term fit into the evolution of the manosphere internet community? Challenges in therapy with clients from the manosphere (incels, red pill, men's rights groups) The intersection of autism and the incel community in therapy Safety concerns: Suicidality and homicidality in clients from manosphere communities Strategies for effective therapy with clients from the incel/manosphere communities Key treatment goals when working with clients from the incel community Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Planning for Death or Incapacitation - What Therapists Need to Do: An interview with Dr. Robyn Miller, Ph.D. 43:39
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedPlanning for Death or Incapacitation - What Therapists Need to Do: An interview with Dr. Robyn Miller, Ph.D. Curt and Katie chat with Dr. Robyn Miller, Ph.D., of TheraClosure about professional wills and what therapists need to do to effectively plan for their own incapacity or death. She shares her experience stepping in as a practice executor for colleagues, the trauma that can result when therapists disappear without explanation, and the systems she’s created through her program to provide compassionate and organized transitions for patients. This is a conversation about professional wills, ethical responsibilities, and why planning for the worst brings peace of mind. Transcripts and more information for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! (Show notes provided in collaboration with Otter.ai and ChatGPT.) In this podcast episode, we talk about planning for a therapist’s unexpected absence, incapacity, or death Too many therapists avoid thinking about what will happen to their clients if they can no longer practice due to sudden illness, incapacitation, or death. Dr. Robyn Miller joins Curt and Katie to discuss why it’s essential to have a professional will, and how to make sure you’re not leaving your clients without closure or support. Why Therapists Must Plan for Death or Incapacitation What Goes into a Professional Will for Therapists The Role and Burden of a Practice Executor Creating a Plan that’s Clinically Thoughtful Systemic Issues and Professional Responsibility Action Steps for Modern Therapists Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Interpersonal Branding - Therapist Marketing That Aligns With Who You Are: An interview with Carrie Wiita 42:27
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedInterpersonal Branding - Therapist Marketing That Aligns With Who You Are: An interview with Carrie Wiita Curt and Katie chat with Carrie Wiita about authenticity, first impressions, and why traditional business coaching doesn’t work for most therapists. Carrie critiques traditional business coaching models that rely on anecdotal “success stories” and mindset hype, and instead offers a relational, thoughtful, and research-informed framework to help therapists show up in alignment with their professional identities. We also explore the unique challenges therapists from marginalized communities face in marketing, and how systemic issues influence visibility and access. Transcripts and more information for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk about how therapists can market themselves ethically, authentically, and effectively Marketing for therapists doesn’t have to feel slimy, manipulative, or one-size-fits-all. Carrie Wiita, a marketing therapist and creator of interpersonal branding, shares how therapists can use their natural strengths, values, and clinical insights to build trust through marketing—without pretending to be someone they’re not. What is Interpersonal Branding for Therapists? The Problem with Traditional Business Coaching for Therapists The Impact of First Impressions on the Therapeutic Relationship Navigating Identity and Professional Boundaries as a Therapist Marketing and Systemic Oppression with the Therapist Profession Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Special Episode: Modern Therapist’s Consumer Guide on JotPsych 49:17
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedSpecial Episode: Modern Therapist’s Consumer Guide on JotPsych Curt and Katie talk with Nate Peereboom, CEO and co-founder of JotPsych, an AI-powered scribe designed to automate therapy notes and save therapists 90–95% of their note-taking time. Jot Psych supports over 30 languages, integrates with many EHRs, and prioritizes security and privacy. In this conversation, we dive into how AI can support clinicians while protecting the integrity of the therapeutic relationship. This episode is part of our Modern Therapist Consumer Guide, where we explore innovative tools and services built for therapists and their clients. In this podcast episode we talk about AI Scribes and making your clinical documentation more efficient and effective with JotPsych We explore how Jot Psych uses artificial intelligence to ease the documentation burden in therapy practices, while maintaining HIPAA compliance and respecting client privacy. Interview with Nate Peereboom, JotPsych 0:01:07 - Nate introduces himself and JotPsych 0:02:18 - Origin story of JotPsych and why they created the company 0:05:34 - Mission, vision, and values of the business 0:09:42 - Process of using JotPsych and note generation 0:12:08 - Business and clinical considerations for using AI scribes 0:16:14 - Privacy concerns and client consent 0:20:30 - Concerns about data training and potential AI therapist replacement 0:31:18 - Multilingual capabilities 0:31:52 - Quality assurance processes 0:34:49 - Onboarding process for new users 0:40:16 - Where to find more information about JotPsych Curt and Katie Chat – Our review of JotPsych 0:42:07 – Katie and Curt talk through our impressions of JotPsych: Considerations for choosing JotPsych, paying attention to scope and accuracy in documentation that is produced, how tools like Jot Psych can serve solo and group practices, the importance of testing AI tools in real-world practice before full adoption A Special Offer for the listeners of Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide podcast from JotPsych Try Jot Psych with a 10-day free trial and get 50% off the first two paid months. Visit jotpsych.com/modern-therapist and use code MODERN Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/…
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1 When Laws and Ethics Conflict: Civil Disobedience, Social Justice, and Our Role as Therapists 1:09:49
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhen Laws and Ethics Conflict: Civil Disobedience, Social Justice, and Our Role as Therapists Curt and Katie chat about what happens when legal requirements clash with ethical responsibilities—and how therapists can stay grounded in their values while navigating complex decisions. When you find yourself in a situation where the law seems to contradict your ethics, or even violate your clients’ basic human rights, what do you do? In this deep-dive episode, we explore the tension between law and ethics and the moral courage required to practice in alignment with your values. From post-9/11 changes in APA’s ethics code to current issues like gender-affirming care restrictions, we explore real-world implications and guide you through a framework for ethical decision-making in the face of legal and systemic challenges. This is a continuing education podcourse. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we talk about laws, ethics, and the difficult decisions therapists face in practice Executive orders and nationwide proposed legislative bills that affect mental health have left therapists wondering, “Will my ethics protect me?” This episode and podcourse explores the interplay between laws and ethics, how professional organizations guide therapists when laws and ethics collide and gives a framework for how therapists should proceed. Participants will learn how to identify potential conflicts, understand their legal and ethical obligations, and develop effective decision-making processes. Topics explored will include risk management strategies, consultation best practices, and documentation considerations in conflictual situations. How do Modern Therapists navigate Ethics vs. Law in our practices? · Where clinical ethics and legal obligations collide · How our ethical codes approach this conflict (APA, ACA, NASW, CAMFT) · The importance of understanding your responsibilities beyond compliance Civil Disobedience as Therapists out in the world and in our offices · Philosophical roots: Antigone, Nuremberg, and post-9/11 ethics reform · When following the law may cause harm to clients or communities · How to protect your license while still honoring human rights Real-Life Legal versus Ethical Dilemmas for Modern Therapists · What to do when reporting requirements might increase harm · How to support trans and gender-diverse clients in states with discriminatory laws · Navigating confidentiality, documentation, and advocacy A Therapist’s Decision-Making Process for Civil Disobedience From Knapp, S., Gottlieb, M., Berman, J., & Handelsman, M. M. (2007). When laws and ethics collide: What should psychologists do? · Seek consultation to understand your legal requirements (know what the law is actually asking you to do, even if that means taking the time to consult with an attorney) · Clearly understand your ethical obligations (read the language of the ethics code and consult with trusted colleagues) · Consider alternatives that allow following the law while upholding your values · Contemplate violating the law only if no viable alternatives exist, and if so, limit disobedience to the minimum necessary to fulfill the higher goal Receive Continuing Education for this Episode of the Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Continuing Education Approvals: Continuing Education Information including grievance and refund policies. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Reproductive Mental Health, Intersectionality, and Systemic Barriers: An interview with Dr. Loree Johnson 32:50
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedReproductive Mental Health, Intersectionality, and Systemic Barriers: An interview with Dr. Loree Johnson Curt and Katie chat with Dr. Loree Johnson about the intersections of reproductive mental health, race, and systemic injustice. Dr. Johnson shared powerful insights about the shame, grief, and medical trauma that many clients face, especially Black women and other folks from historically marginalized communities. We dive into how therapists can hold safer, more informed spaces for clients experiencing infertility and pregnancy loss, and how systemic racism and historical harm continue to shape reproductive healthcare today. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk about reproductive trauma, systemic barriers to care, and the need for cultural humility in therapy We were honored to sit down with Dr. Loree Johnson, LMFT, PhD—an expert in reproductive mental health who brings both clinical expertise and lived experience to the conversation. We explore how therapists can better support clients navigating infertility, pregnancy loss, and trauma, especially clients from marginalized communities. What do therapists often get wrong about reproductive mental health? · Avoiding the conversation about infertility and pregnancy loss because therapists feel undertrained or uncomfortable · Therapists overlook the impact of race, history, and oppression in reproductive trauma · Assuming fertility issues affect only straight, cisgender couples · Minimizing or misunderstanding the grief associated with pregnancy loss and infertility What is the role of systemic racism and historical trauma for Black women seeking reproductive care? · Mistrust of the medical system due to real, generational harm (e.g., J. Marion Sims, Henrietta Lacks, Tuskegee) · Myths of hyper-fertility in Black women and the erasure of infertility struggles in communities of color · Disenfranchised grief and cultural stigma around fertility challenges · Weathering: the cumulative impact of chronic stress and racism on physical and reproductive health How can therapists show up better for clients who are experiencing infertility and pregnancy loss? · Learn the terminology and processes around fertility treatments and pregnancy loss · Create space for conversations around sex, reproduction, and grief—even if it’s uncomfortable · Practice cultural humility and intimacy: be willing to be wrong, to sit with pain, and to build trust · Acknowledge your own limitations and biases while staying curious and committed to learning · Be prepared for these conversations—even if you don’t specialize in reproductive mental health Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 What Therapists Need to Know to Support the Trans Community: An interview with Artie Hartsell 36:00
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat Therapists Need to Know to Support the Trans Community: An interview with Artie Hartsell Curt and Katie chat with Artie Hartsell from ACLU North Carolina about how current anti-trans policies are impacting the trans community. We explore the historical erasure of trans identities, the rise of anti-trans legislation, and the real-world impact on housing, medical care, and documentation. Artie also shares resources for legal aid, community support, and how therapists can show up for their trans clients. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we explore the real-life consequences of anti-trans policies Curt and Katie sit down with Artie Hartsell, MSW, an advocate and organizer with the ACLU of North Carolina, to discuss how recent political changes are affecting the trans community. How are trans rights being threatened today? Over 1,000 anti-trans bills and executive orders have been introduced in the U.S. Passport and documentation delays create barriers for trans individuals. Housing discrimination and increased risks for unhoused trans individuals. Medical care restrictions limit access to gender-affirming treatment. A rise in state and local laws emboldening discrimination against trans people. What can therapists do to support trans clients? Make their practice as welcoming as possible by being transparent about their knowledge and limitations. Partner with local LGBTQ organizations to stay informed and provide accurate resources. Be mindful of documentation practices to protect trans clients from potential harm. Encourage trans clients to build strong communities and mutual aid networks. Resources for Trans Individuals and Allies: Legal Aid and Advocacy: ACLU, Lambda Legal, National Center for Lesbian Rights Medical Resources: Campaign for Southern Equality, Gay and Lesbian Medical Association (GLMA) Community Support: PFLAG, local LGBTQ centers How can allies and therapists take action to support the trans community? · Educate yourself on trans rights and the implications of recent laws. · Provide direct support by connecting trans clients to legal and medical resources. · Engage in advocacy through organizations like the ACLU and local LGBTQ groups. · Encourage trans individuals to document and preserve their community’s history. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 What Should Not Be Normalized in Our Profession? 35:59
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat Should Not Be Normalized in Our Profession? Curt and Katie chat about a discussion that came up in the Modern Therapists Facebook group – What is something that you wish other therapists would stop pretending is normal. We explore the normalization of waiting until license renewal for CE, balancing accountability without chastising clients, and acknowledging countertransference in therapy. We also tackle the high costs of specialized training, the problems of treating children in isolation without family involvement, and the systemic issue of unpaid internships and low therapist wages. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we explore frustrations modern therapists have with our profession Curt and Katie dive into some of the things that therapists normalize that maybe they shouldn’t, gathered from discussions in the Modern Therapist Facebook Group. What are struggles that are normalized for therapists? · Waiting until right before license renewal to complete continuing education (CE) · Not figuring out the difference between holding clients accountable vs. chastising or bullying them · Failing to acknowledge countertransference and true emotions in therapy · The high costs of specialized training · Not recognizing the importance of family involvement in child therapy · The impact of unpaid internships and low wages for therapists Is the therapy profession setting itself up for burnout and financial struggle? · Many therapists procrastinate CE requirements, leading to unnecessary stress. · Holding clients accountable is important, but it shouldn't come at the cost of rapport or shame. · Denying countertransference is unrealistic — therapists have emotions too! · Expensive training creates barriers to specialization, limiting accessibility. · Therapists treating children without involving family may not be setting up the child for success. · Unpaid internships and low wages continue to undervalue therapists’ work, making financial stability difficult. What can therapists do to improve their profession? · Plan CE credits early to avoid last-minute stress. · Frame accountability in a way that supports clients and aligns with their stated goals rather than chastises them. · Acknowledge emotions in therapy without making sessions about the therapist. · Seek out reasonably priced training options and advocate for more affordable education. · Encourage family involvement when working with children (when appropriate). · Push for industry-wide changes in pay and internship standards. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 How Can Therapists Accept (and Impact) Technology?: An interview with Dr. David Cooper 36:03
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow Can Therapists Accept (and Impact) Technology?: An interview with Dr. David Cooper Curt and Katie chat with Dr. David Cooper of Therapists in Tech to explore the evolving role of artificial intelligence (AI) in therapy. Dr. Cooper highlights the importance of tech literacy, privacy, and security in digital mental health while advocating for therapists to use AI as a tool for efficiency rather than replacement. He compares this shift to the transition from paper charts to electronic health records (EHRs) and encourages therapists to stay informed and engaged through communities like Therapists in Tech and the Society for Digital Mental Health. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk about how therapists can engage with technology At the Behavioral Tech Conference, Katie met Dr. David Cooper of therapists in tech. We invited him on to help us understand better how therapists can engage with technology safely and ethically. As AI continues to integrate into mental health care, therapists must embrace innovation while advocating for ethical, client-centered practices. How can therapists engage with AI and digital health responsibly? Use AI tools like ChatGPT for administrative efficiency and tech troubleshooting. Advocate for digital health education in graduate training programs. Seek guidance from digital health experts through groups like Therapists in Tech. Implement technology for administrative tasks, such as automated reminders and billing. Stay informed and connected with digital mental health advancements through professional communities. Key Takeaways from this podcast interview with Dr. David Cooper of Therapists in Tech AI can enhance, not replace, therapy, improving efficiency in practice management. Ethical considerations remain crucial, especially regarding privacy and data security. Tech literacy is a necessary skill for all therapists as the field evolves. Therapists should take an active role in digital health advocacy to maintain the human element in care. Resources for Therapists Adapting to Digital Health: Therapists in Tech – A community for professionals navigating digital mental health. Society for Digital Mental Health – A resource hub for therapists exploring tech solutions. Behavioral Health Tech Conference – A key event for learning and networking in digital health. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Reviewing a Disciplinary Case on Suicidality, Erotic Transference, and Between-Session Communication: How do therapists hold appropriate boundaries? 1:13:47
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedReviewing a Disciplinary Case on Suicidality, Erotic Transference, and Between-Session Communication: How do therapists hold appropriate boundaries? Curt and Katie chat about a disciplinary case against Dr. Eric Bergeman, highlighting key ethical concerns for therapists. They explore documentation practices, therapist responsibilities, and boundary management, particularly in cases involving suicidality and erotic transference. The conversation underscores the importance of clear treatment planning, proper record-keeping, and ethical decision-making to avoid legal and professional consequences. This is a continuing education podcourse. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we talk about suicidality, erotic transference, between-session communication, and documentation Therapists are given conflicting advice on when their duties to patients begin, how much they are expected to be available to clients outside of sessions, how they are to approach between-session communications, and how to document such communications. This episode explores a disciplinary case where the California Board of Psychology investigated a therapist’s responses to a client that filed a complaint about the therapist’s treatment. What therapists need to know about ethical boundaries and disciplinary actions: The importance of proper documentation and clear treatment planning. How to respond to client suicidality in real-time, including assessment and intervention. Managing erotic transference with ethical boundaries and consultation. The role of Board of Psychology investigations in evaluating therapist conduct. Key Takeaways from Dr. Bergeman’s Disciplinary Case: The Board of Psychology found gross negligence due to poor documentation, inadequate diagnosis, and lack of clear therapeutic boundaries. Dr. Bergeman failed to properly address the client’s suicidality and borderline personality disorder, leading to ethical concerns. Consultation with another therapist revealed concerns about Bergeman’s treatment approach and lack of structured intervention. The Board initially sought a fine of $103,000, later reducing it to $10,363, citing good intentions but significant professional oversights. Receive Continuing Education for this Episode of the Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Continuing Education Approvals: Continuing Education Information including grievance and refund policies. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 What Therapists Need to Know About Immigration: An interview with Andy Strait 41:56
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat Therapists Need to Know About Immigration: An interview with Andy Strait Curt and Katie chat with Andy R. Strait, Esq., about immigration policies, mental health, and the role of therapists in supporting immigrant clients. They explore legal challenges, asylum cases, and the impact of fear-driven policies on mental health. Strait emphasizes the importance of legal representation, knowing one’s immigration status, and providing accurate resources. Therapists can help by offering pro bono evaluations, connecting clients with legal aid, and creating safe spaces for immigrant communities. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk about what therapists need to know about immigration Immigration policies directly impact the mental health of both therapists and their clients. We asked Andy Strait, an immigration attorney and former public advocate, about the challenges immigrants face in the U.S. legal system, the role of therapists in supporting their clients, and practical steps therapists can take to provide assistance. What do therapists need to know about immigration policies? The lack of legal representation for immigrants and how this affects asylum outcomes. How the culture of fear surrounding immigration policies affects mental health. The importance of therapists providing accurate legal resources to clients. The racial profiling and shifting demographic focus of ICE operations. How therapists can help clients plan for potential deportation and protect their families. How Therapists Can Support Clients Facing Immigration Challenges Refer clients to legal experts by connecting with organizations like the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) and the Survivors of Torture Network. Consider offering pro bono psychological evaluations for asylum cases, as expert testimony is often crucial. Help clients understand their rights and the importance of legal documentation. Provide safe spaces for immigrants to process their fears and mental health struggles. Be mindful of misinformation and educate clients using accurate, vetted sources. Understanding the Realities of the Immigration System The asylum process is complex and overburdened, leaving many without proper representation. There is no right to an attorney for immigrants, making legal aid essential. Immigrants and their families need proactive strategies to prepare for potential enforcement actions. Therapists can play a critical role in reducing the stigma around seeking legal and mental health support. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Reacting to Regime Change: How Therapists Can Advocate for our Clients and Communities 35:01
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedReacting to Regime Change: How Therapists Can Advocate for our Clients and Communities Curt and Katie chat about how the United States has shifted since the inauguration of President Trump. We look at how therapists can advocate for their clients and the communities they serve and/or live in. We look at strategies for therapists to stay informed, provide vetted resources, and be present for clients who may be struggling with the changes. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we talk about the impact of political shifts on mental health care With ongoing changes in healthcare policy, therapists must navigate how legislative decisions impact their clients and their own practice. In this episode, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy discuss the Trump administration’s influence on mental health care, the importance of accurate information and advocacy, and strategies for balancing personal well-being with professional responsibilities. What do therapists need to know about political changes in healthcare? The Trump administration’s policies and their impact on the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and Medicaid. The role of therapists in ensuring clients receive accurate healthcare information. How legislative decisions affect funding for mental health services. Why advocacy and political awareness are essential for protecting mental health access. The ethical considerations of discussing politics with clients while maintaining professional boundaries. How Therapists Can Take Action to Protect Healthcare Access Educate yourself and your clients on state-specific programs and available resources. Provide information in your practice on how clients can contact their legislators. Spend 15 minutes a day making calls to representatives to advocate for mental health care. Encourage, but don’t pressure, clients to take action in ways that align with their own values. Share neutral, fact-based sources to help clients stay informed without unnecessary anxiety. The Emotional Toll of Advocacy and How to Manage It Navigating personal feelings while supporting clients through political uncertainty. Avoiding doom-scrolling and setting boundaries around media consumption. Finding support within the therapist community to prevent burnout. Understanding personal capacity and choosing advocacy efforts that are sustainable. The Role of Therapists in Community Support Helping clients feel empowered rather than helpless in the face of policy changes. Creating space in sessions for conversations about uncertainty and anxiety related to healthcare access. Challenging therapists to step outside their comfort zone and take meaningful action. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 When Your Client Dies By Suicide: An interview with Dr. Nina Gutin 35:07
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhen Your Client Dies By Suicide: An interview with Dr. Nina Gutin Curt and Katie chat with Nina J. Gutin, Ph.D. about to discuss the emotional, professional, and systemic impact of client suicide on clinicians. We break down the common reactions of guilt and blame, highlight the importance of postvention support, and explore strategies to navigate grief and maintain clinical confidence. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk about the impact of client suicide on clinicians Losing a client to suicide is a devastating and often isolating experience for mental health professionals. We asked suicide expert, Dr. Nina Gutin to join us to talk about how therapists can take care of themselves when they have a client die by suicide. What do therapists need to know about client suicide and its impact on clinicians? The stigma and self-blame clinicians often experience after losing a client. The importance of using “died by suicide” instead of stigmatizing language. Statistics on clinician loss: One in five mental health professionals—and up to one in two psychiatrists—will experience a client suicide. The need for postvention protocols and structured support in mental health workplaces. How reducing caseloads and fostering support networks can help mitigate the long-term professional impact. Processing Guilt and Self-Blame After a Client Suicide How hindsight bias can make clinicians feel responsible for a client’s death. Shifting from guilt to remorse or regret as a healthier perspective. The fear of legal repercussions and how to navigate it after a client suicide. Best practices for reaching out to a client’s family with compassion and professionalism. The Professional and Emotional Toll of Client Suicide on Therapists How losing a client to suicide can shake a clinician’s confidence and clinical identity. The importance of workplace support and structured postvention after a client death. Why systemic change is necessary to ensure therapists receive the help they need. Resources and Support for Clinicians The Coalition of Clinician Survivors – A support network offering: A listserv for peer support. A bibliography of research and clinical resources. Postvention protocols to guide clinicians and organizations. Dr. Nina Gutin’s email – For clinicians seeking consultation (nguten@earthlink.net). Breaking the Stigma and Advocating for Systemic Support How the stigma around suicide impacts both clients and clinicians. The need for better suicide prevention and postvention training in clinical programs. How organizations can prepare for and respond to client suicides to support their clinicians effectively. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Stop Wasting Your Time on Awareness Campaigns 29:31
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedStop Wasting Your Time on Awareness Campaigns Curt and Katie chat about the limitations of performative awareness campaigns and the need for action-oriented advocacy. Inspired by the article Stop Raising Awareness Already by Ann Christiano and Annie Niemand, they critique viral campaigns like Kony 2012 and the CDC’s zombie apocalypse campaign, highlighting the importance of targeting the right audiences, crafting compelling messages, and developing a theory of change. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we talk about the limitations of awareness campaigns Curt and Katie talk about what to do instead of focusing precious time, energy, and resources on advocacy that is solely about awareness. We look at what has worked in the past and how to implement that now. Why Awareness Alone Isn’t Enough Performative awareness (social media posts, profile filters) often doesn’t lead to real change. Examples of failed awareness campaigns: Kony 2012: Viral but lacked sustainable action. CDC’s zombie apocalypse: Popular but ineffective at promoting emergency preparedness. HPV vaccine campaign: Faced backlash due to misinterpretation of its message. Some awareness efforts even create harmful counter-movements (e.g., “All Lives Matter” in response to BLM). The Importance of Targeted Advocacy Broad awareness campaigns often miss key decision-makers—advocacy should focus on specific audiences. Examples of effective advocacy efforts: Lobbying for minors' rights to amend therapy records. Medicare reform efforts for mental health providers. California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT) educating legislators about MFTs. Developing a Theory of Change Advocacy needs clear goals and strategic planning. The story of Rosa Parks demonstrates effective timing and targeting in advocacy. Successful campaigns require repetition, patience, and clear calls to action. Practical Steps for Effective Advocacy: · Move beyond awareness—advocate for policy changes, funding, and direct action. · Target specific audiences (lawmakers, healthcare providers, educators). · Craft messages that resonate—ensure they lead to measurable change. · Develop a theory of change—plan advocacy efforts with long-term impact in mind. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 MFTs Providing Therapy Across State Lines Through License Portability in the United States: An interview with Roger Smith 36:18
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedMFTs Providing Therapy Across State Lines Through License Portability in the United States: An interview with Roger Smith Curt and Katie chat with Roger Smith, Chief Advocacy Officer and General Counsel for American Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, about the challenges and progress in licensure portability for Marriage and Family Therapists (MFTs). He explains why AAMFT opted for an endorsement model over interstate compacts, the success of the Access MFTs initiative, and what’s next for portability efforts in 2025. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk with Roger Smith about LMFT License Portability As more and more therapy is happening online, therapists have an opportunity to work with clients from all over the world. In the United States, there have been efforts by social workers, mental health counselors, and psychologists to create inter-state compacts to help regulate these therapists (and provide opportunities to deliver care legally in other states). Marriage and Family Therapists have been left behind and are now seeking a different path (reciprocity or portability) due to the unique characteristics of the LMFT profession. We reached out to Roger Smith of AAMFT to help us understand why this decision was made as well as what it means for MFTs. Why AAMFT Chose the Endorsement Model Over Compacts · Interstate compacts were considered but ultimately deemed too costly and unsustainable. · Large states like California and New York have not adopted ANY healthcare compacts, limiting effectiveness. · Endorsement model: Allows MFTs to practice in other states if they hold an unencumbered license—without having to meet initial requirements again. Success of the "Access MFTs" Model · In 2024, 7 out of 10 targeted states passed the Access MFTs model law. · States that adopted the model include Arizona, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Tennessee, and Virginia. · Efforts continue in Kentucky and North Carolina for 2025. Future of MFT Portability & Barriers California is not pursuing portability legislation but is working with CAMFT on national exam advocacy. Exam requirements can be a barrier to full portability. Expansion plans focus on pro-telehealth states and underserved regions. Member Interest & Cost Considerations for MFTs seeking to practice across state lines A 2022 AAMFT survey showed strong member interest in portability, especially among younger therapists. Costs are a factor—both the Access MFTs model and interstate compacts involve financial considerations for therapists. National Licensure for therapists: Why It’s Not an Option Licensure is a state-level issue, and federal intervention is unlikely. A national exam or license would face constitutional challenges and resistance from state regulatory boards. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 The Advances in Artificial Intelligence for Mental Health: An interview with Dr. Alyssa Dietz 43:11
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThe Advances in Artificial Intelligence for Mental Health: An interview with Dr. Alyssa Dietz Curt and Katie chat with Dr. Alyssa Dietz, a clinical psychologist and digital mental health expert, about the evolving role of AI in therapy. Dr. Dietz discusses how AI can enhance therapy by delivering evidence-based care, particularly in structured approaches like CBT, while acknowledging its limitations with complex, multi-diagnosis cases. She emphasizes the need for collaboration between therapists and AI developers to ensure ethical, patient-centered innovation in digital mental health. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk with Dr. Alyssa Dietz about Advances in AI for Therapy Artificial Intelligence has already come for mental healthcare. The question is, what should therapists be doing about it? We dig into what AI therapy looks like from the inside, from a clinician’s perspective. AI’s Growing Role in Therapy AI can enhance therapy but won’t replace human therapists soon. AI is particularly effective in skills-based therapies like CBT. AI currently struggles with complex diagnoses and comorbidities. The most active users of digital mental health tools are 50-60 years old, surprising many industry experts. How AI is Changing the Therapist’s Role AI can automate administrative tasks and support therapists in data-driven decision-making. Although tech and insurance folks say we can use AI to work at the "top of our license," this approach could lead to therapist burnout. Clinicians should work alongside AI developers to ensure ethical, patient-centered care. AI’s judgment and decision-making remain limited, requiring human oversight. Evaluating AI’s Effectiveness & Ethical Considerations The tension between innovation, regulation, and evaluation in AI-driven therapy. Importance of clear safety protocols and escalation (emergency) measures for client care. AI must be rigorously tested for safety and effectiveness. Understanding how AI products are trained and evaluated is critical for therapists before incorporating these clinical tools into your practice. AI and Complex Diagnoses Current AI models struggle to address comorbidities effectively. Need for personalization and context-driven interventions. Future AI tools must move beyond a one-size-fits-all approach. How Therapists Can Adapt to AI in Mental Health Educate yourself on AI’s capabilities and limitations. Stay informed through online courses, conferences, and tech-focused therapist groups. Engage with organizations like the Digital Medicine Society to understand responsible AI use. Connect with the "Therapists in Tech" Slack group to network with others in the space. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Exploring Systemic Trauma and Relational Privilege with BIPOC and LGBTQI Couples: An interview with Akilah Riley-Richardson, MSW, CCTP 37:59
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedExploring Systemic Trauma and Relational Privilege with BIPOC and LGBTQI Couples: An interview with Akilah Riley-Richardson Curt and Katie chat with Akilah Riley Richardson, MSW about the challenges therapists face when working with BIPOC and LGBTQI couples. Akilah discusses the impact of systemic trauma , how it affects relationships, and the importance of creating therapeutic models tailored to marginalized communities. She introduces The PRIDE Model for therapy and The BIOME Stance for therapists, offering actionable strategies for inclusive, trauma-informed care. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk with Akilah Riley-Richardson about what therapists get wrong when working with BIPOC and LGBTQI couples Too often, couples counselors take traditional models and make slight tweaks for couples from marginalized backgrounds, with little success. Akilah Riley-Richardson has developed a stance and a new model to help support therapists in doing more effective work with these couples. Understanding Systemic Trauma in Therapy Defining systemic trauma : Chronic, unpredictable, and disenfranchised trauma caused by systemic forces (education, legal, and healthcare systems). Examples of systemic trauma : Microaggressions, mispronounced names, assumptions about authority roles, and misgendering. Effects on individuals and relationships : Reduced sense of safety, rejection sensitivity, emotional disconnect, and difficulty setting boundaries. Challenges in Therapy with BIPOC and LGBTQI Couples Common therapist mistakes: Ignoring systemic realities and the impact of privilege. Adapting existing models without acknowledging their white, cishet origins. Failing to create trauma-informed, inclusive frameworks. Importance of relational privilege : Self-acceptance, social acceptance, and feeling protected in relationships. The PRIDE Model & The BIOME Stance from Akilah Riley-Richardson PRIDE Model for Therapy: Relational curiosity : Actively exploring the client's lived experiences. Setting intentions : Creating space for safety and vulnerability. Trauma work : Addressing systemic trauma's long-term impact on relationships. BIOME Stance for Therapists: Bravery : Facing discomfort in recognizing privilege. Intimacy : Fostering deep emotional connections. Openness : Being receptive to client experiences. Micro-liberatory movements : Small but impactful actions toward social justice. Epistemic embracing : Validating client knowledge and lived experiences. How Therapists Can Engage Clients in Systemic Trauma Work Transparency in therapy : Clearly communicating the goal of liberation. Allowing resistance : Accepting client pushback as an assertion of power. Embracing uncertainty : Being comfortable with not having all the answers. Participating in decolonization conversations : Learning through community engagement and allyship. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 How Therapists Can Truly Help After a Disaster 33:07
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow Therapists Can Truly Help After a Disaster Curt and Katie chat about the impact of the recent Los Angeles wild fires on therapists, their clients, and communities. We explore the importance of self-assessment, responsible crisis response, and balancing personal care with providing support. From donating (and marketing) services ethically to understanding trauma timelines, Curt and Katie provide practical advice for therapists navigating community-wide disasters. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we talk through how therapists can help during and after crises Curt and Katie live in Los Angeles, which was recently ravaged by wild fires. We decided it would be important to reflect on our experience and provide support to other therapists seeking ways they may be able to help their own communities. Self-Assessment and Prioritizing Personal Care during a Natural Disaster or Community Crisis Therapists are encouraged to assess their capacity to provide support, ensuring they do not overextend themselves during a crisis. Curt emphasizes radical acceptance and forgiveness for cancellations or temporary service disruptions caused by disasters. Katie highlights the importance of therapists taking care of themselves before offering services, noting the potential for long-term impacts on both providers and clients. How to Market Therapy during a crisis without feeling like an ambulance chaser Curt and Katie stress the importance of donating services ethically, avoiding lead generation tactics or branding during a crisis. They discuss reviewing scheduled marketing campaigns to ensure sensitivity to the current situation. Therapists are encouraged to work with established organizations (like the Red Cross) to maximize the impact of their efforts. Curt and Katie discuss the risks of using disasters to build personal brands and stress focusing solely on service and support. They suggest volunteering with experienced organizations to avoid complications and maximize resources for those in need. Recognizing Individual Needs and Trauma Timelines for disaster survivors Not all clients experience or process trauma in the same way; therapists must tailor their support to individual needs and stages of impact. Curt shares insights from his experience supporting clients after the Boston Marathon bombing, emphasizing the importance of addressing varying levels of trauma severity. Katie highlights the need for long-term care systems to address ongoing trauma responses. How Therapists can balance Caretaking and Personal Needs during a disaster Curt shares his experience of being overwhelmed by personal messages and work demands during the crisis. Katie emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries and giving oneself permission to focus on personal care. Therapists are reminded that they are part of the crisis too and should ensure they meet their own needs before taking on the caretaker role. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Helping Parents Become What They Needed as a Child: An interview with Bryana Kappadakunnel, LMFT 41:08
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHelping Parents Become What They Needed as a Child: An interview with Bryana Kappadakunnel, LMFT Curt and Katie chat with Bryana Kappakunnel, LMFT about conscious parenting, discussing how self-awareness, emotional regulation, and healing personal triggers can help parents foster healthier and more connected relationships with their children. With a background in infant and early childhood mental health and her upcoming book Parent Yourself First , Bryana offers valuable insights for therapists and parents alike. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk with Bryana Kappadakunnel about Conscious Parenting We invited friend of the show, Bryana Kappadakunnel, LMFT to talk about her work, including her new book, Parent Yourself First. What is Conscious Parenting? Conscious parenting goes beyond positive parenting by prioritizing self-awareness, personal healing, and understanding the root causes of emotional triggers. Bryana explains how addressing parents’ unresolved issues can create a healthier environment for children, often alleviating behavioral challenges. She highlights the importance of building authentic connections with children and fostering emotional safety through open communication and modeling accountability. Common Pushback and Misconceptions for Conscious Parenting Bryana addresses resistance from parents who view traditional parenting as the norm or feel threatened by relational approaches. She clarifies that conscious parenting is not permissive but a balanced, authoritative style that combines high warmth, nurturance, structure, and boundaries. Bryana emphasizes the need to manage stress and prevent burnout by helping parents regulate their own emotions before addressing their children’s behavior. How to Help Parents Navigate Challenging Parenting Scenarios When parents feel disrespected by their children, Bryana advises focusing on their own emotional reactions and understanding the child’s behavior as a form of communication. She stresses the importance of setting consistent boundaries while staying attuned to the child’s perspective. Bryana shares her own practice of apologizing to her children when she makes mistakes, modeling accountability and respect in the parent-child relationship. How Conscious Parenting Helps Kids During the pandemic, Bryana shifted her focus to working with parents directly, leading to significant improvements in family dynamics in shorter timeframes. Her work underscores the importance of addressing systemic and relational patterns within families rather than focusing solely on child behavior. Bryana highlights the benefits of her approach, including better communication, a deeper sense of connection, and raising compassionate, empathetic, and confident children. Bryana’s Online Presence and Upcoming Book Bryana creates content tailored to the needs of parents and her clients, sharing bite-sized videos that inspire reflection and change. Bryana talks about her decisions on what to post as a licensed therapist with a big following on social media platforms She discusses her book, Parent Yourself First , which helps parents heal their own wounds to raise resilient and empathetic children. The book focuses on empowering parents to become the caregivers they wished they had, fostering healthier and more connected family systems. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Identifying the Graduate Program for the Career You Want – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Eden Lathem 27:49
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIdentifying the Graduate Program for the Career You Want – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Eden Lathem In this new series, Curt and Katie interview graduate students and will follow them on their journey to becoming a therapist. Our final interview is with Eden Lathem, a second-year Marriage and Family Therapy (MFT) student at Lipscomb University in Nashville, Tennessee. Eden shares her path from working in prison education and with individuals with disabilities to finding her passion for systemic thinking and family therapy. She candidly discusses the challenges of grad school, balancing internships, and navigating financial constraints while exploring her future career aspirations. She also talks through how she did due diligence to find the “right” graduate program. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we meet Eden Lathem, an aspiring therapist We continue our new series on becoming a therapist, with Eden Lathem, who is a first career professional who has done a lot of due diligence and strategic thinking to plan her trajectory as a therapist and professional. Eden’s Background and Path to Therapy Eden shares how her experiences in prison education and working with individuals with disabilities shaped her desire to support families and underserved populations. Initially hesitant about becoming a therapist, Eden found her passion for MFT through her commitment to systemic thinking and helping others. She highlights the unique role of MFT in addressing the needs of families with disabled members, a demographic often overlooked. Grad School Expectations vs. Reality Eden discusses her experience in an in-person, cohort-style program that meets weekly. She was surprised by the program’s emphasis on self-awareness and the “self of the therapist” work, which has become a significant focus. While expecting more hands-on training, she found the program leaned heavily on didactic learning with limited opportunities for shadowing and hands-on therapy practice. Balancing Dual Internships and Financial Challenges Eden balances two internships: a paid position at a family therapy center and an unpaid internship, navigating the complexities of these experiences. She shares the financial struggles of grad school, reflecting on the challenges of unpaid internships and the economic realities of the helping professions. Eden highlights the need for strategic financial planning and managing responsibilities while pursuing a meaningful career. Advice for Prospective Therapy Students Eden encourages prospective students to thoroughly research programs by talking to professors and alumni. She stresses the importance of aligning program values with personal goals and considering the broader implications of the chosen education. Her advice emphasizes due diligence in selecting a program that supports future career aspirations. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Becoming a Therapist as a First Generation Immigrant – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Marvin Vasquez 41:35
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedBecoming a Therapist as a First Generation Immigrant – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Marvin Vasquez In this new series, Curt and Katie interview graduate students and will follow them on their journey to becoming a therapist. Our third interview is with Marvin Vasquez, a first-year Marriage and Family Therapy (MFT) student at California State University, Northridge (CSUN), which is an all in-person program. Marvin shares his journey into therapy, shaped by his immigrant background and personal struggles, as well as his passion for serving underserved communities. He opens up about the unexpected sense of community within his cohort, the financial challenges of grad school, and his concerns about the future of therapy in an increasingly technological world. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we meet Marvin Vasquez, an aspiring therapist We continue our new series on becoming a therapist, with Marvin Vasquez. Marvin’s Background and Motivation for Becoming a Therapist Marvin reflects on his upbringing in a large immigrant family and how his experiences inspired his desire to help others. He explains how his personal struggles and a passion for underserved communities led him to pursue a career in therapy. His goal is to use his background and understanding to make therapy more accessible and impactful for marginalized groups. The First Semester of his MFT Program: Expectations vs. Reality Marvin discusses his expectations of a theory-heavy and clinical program, contrasting it with the surprising sense of community within his cohort. He highlights the supportive environment, where vulnerability and shared resilience among students foster personal and professional growth. Marvin appreciates the program’s emphasis on creating a safe space for learning and self-awareness. Community and Support in an In-Person Therapy Grad School Marvin contrasts his undergrad experience, which lacked connection, with his current program's close-knit and empathetic cohort. The program’s in-person setup has created a unique intensity and camaraderie among students, helping Marvin grow as both a person and a therapist. He emphasizes the importance of authenticity and vulnerability in building strong connections within the cohort. Navigating Family Dynamics and Self-Awareness Marvin shares how the program has deepened his empathy for his parents, particularly their struggles as first-generation immigrants. He reflects on how their survival strategies shaped his upbringing and his understanding of family dynamics. The program has helped Marvin foster greater authenticity and emotional awareness in both his personal and professional life. Balancing Academics, Work, and Relationships during his MFT Masters Program Marvin explains the challenges of balancing his academic workload, job responsibilities, and personal relationships. He discusses the financial stress of grad school, including student loans, and the sacrifices involved in pursuing his degree. Marvin acknowledges the importance of maintaining connections with friends and family to avoid burnout and maintain a healthy work-life balance. Financial Concerns and Career Aspirations as an MFT Marvin shares his worries about student debt and the economic realities of being a therapist. He expresses gratitude for his supportive employer, who provides flexibility to balance work and school. Marvin is exploring career options, including the importance of finding fieldwork opportunities that align with his values and schedule. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 Finding Alignment in a Second Career – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Iris Wilson-Farley 38:18
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedFinding Alignment in a Second Career – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Iris Wilson-Farley In this new series, Curt and Katie interview graduate students and will follow them on their journey to becoming a therapist. Our second interview is with Iris Wilson-Farley, a 54-year-old trans woman and graduate student pursuing her Master’s in Clinical Mental Health Counseling at the Chicago School of Professional Psychology. Iris shares her journey moving from a 32-year corporate career to becoming a therapist, her passion for working with the LGBTQ+ community, and her reflections on safety, technology, and additional training opportunities. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we meet Iris Wilson-Farley, an aspiring therapist We continue our new series on becoming a therapist, with Iris Wilson-Farley, who in her process of self-discovery realized that her career was misaligned. She is now pursuing a degree in counseling. The motivation to transition careers from HR to Therapy Iris shares how her personal journey as a transgender woman and her positive counseling experiences inspired her to pursue a more meaningful career in therapy, focusing on giving back to the LGBTQ+ community, particularly older adults. The challenges and surprises in an online graduate program for therapists Iris discusses the challenges of adjusting to an asynchronous online program, balancing studies with her HR job, and the valuable multicultural and social justice emphasis in her curriculum. The perspective gained from entering therapy grad school as a second career clinician She highlights the wisdom, emotional intelligence, and lived experiences she brings as a second-career student, including her unique insights from being a client herself. Discussing safety concerns and multicultural awareness in the mental health profession Iris reflects on addressing safety concerns as a trans therapist, particularly in the face of potential discrimination, and shares her commitment to finding a supportive and affirming work environment. How is AI and technology addressed in therapist graduate school? Drawing from her corporate experience, Iris explores the integration of technology and AI in therapy, advocating for its potential to enhance the field while emphasizing the need for ethical considerations. What additional training can be helpful when starting out as a therapist? Iris expresses interest in pursuing additional certifications in sex therapy and religious trauma to better serve the LGBTQ+ community and address gaps in her training. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 From Broadway to Grad School – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Derek Isetti 38:37
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedFrom Broadway to Grad School – Special Series Becoming a Therapist: An interview with Derek Isetti In this new series, Curt and Katie interview graduate students and will follow them on their journey to becoming a therapist. Our first interview is with Derek Isetti, a 50-year-old graduate student in a two-year Master of Social Work program at California State University, Stanislaus. Derek shares his journey from careers in musical theater and speech-language pathology to pursuing a career in therapy. He reflects on the challenges, surprises, and personal factors influencing his decision to return to school, offering insights into navigating graduate education and the mental health profession. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! An Interview with Derek Isetti Derek Isetti, PhD, CCC-SLP earned his bachelor of arts in drama with an emphasis in musical theater from University of California, Irvine in 1996. After traveling the country in four national tours and performing in the musical Cabaret on Broadway, Derek returned to school and in 2008 he earned his master of science in Speech-Language Pathology from University of the Pacific. He later earned his doctor of philosophy in Speech and Hearing Sciences from University of Washington, studying voice disorders under the mentorship of Dr. Tanya Eadie. He joined the Pacific faculty in 2014 and is currently serving as Department Chair. In the Fall of 2023, he returned to school to pursue an MSW degree in hopes of becoming a psychotherapist. Derek is a member of the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA) and the California Speech-Language-Hearing Association. In this podcast episode, we meet Derek Isetti, an aspiring therapist We are starting a new series to follow graduate students on their journey to become a therapist. We start with Derek Isetti, a third career therapist who is working full-time while attending a MSW program in Northern CA. (summary provided in collaboration with Otter.ai and ChatGPT) The experience of transitioning careers to become a therapist Derek explains his shift from a performer and speech-language pathologist to therapy, motivated by a desire to create supportive, transformative spaces for others. What graduate school can be like for aspiring therapists He details his MSW program structure, designed for working professionals, which includes online courses, in-person classes once a month, and 1,000 hours of fieldwork by graduation. How therapy students can balance academic and personal life Derek shares how his personal circumstances, being single, working in academia, and attending a state university for affordability—helped shape his path. Some challenges and surprises on the path to becoming a therapist He discusses the variability in program lengths (some social work programs are only 1 year, for example), California’s unique licensure process for social workers, and the tension between broad social work education and specialized psychotherapy training. How current events and technology are addressed in therapy grad school Derek highlights the integration of national events and teletherapy technology into his program and the importance of addressing these topics with clients and students. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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What if you hate private practice? Curt and Katie chat about the realities of private practice and why it isn’t the idyllic career path it’s often made out to be. We dig into reasons therapists may dislike private practice, like financial instability, isolation, lack of accountability, and ethical concerns. We also share ways therapists can navigate these hurdles and find fulfillment in their work. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we talk through what makes owning a private practice hard We have seen both overly effusive (“living my best life”) and hopeless (“I will never be successful in private practice”) feedback about being in private practice. But what is it really like? AND if you don’t like private practice is that okay? We decided to dig into what makes being a private practitioner challenging. Doesn’t everyone LOVE private practice? · There are a lot of reasons people choose private practice as their job · Private practice is hard · Private practice isn’t for everyone Financial Instability is unavoidable in private practice · Private practice income can be unpredictable, often lacking benefits and paid time off · Therapists may need outside financial support to mitigate these challenges · Starting a private practice easily can rely on financial or able-bodied privilege · Charging high fees and navigating ethical dilemmas can challenge therapists’ sense of fulfillment and values. Owning a Private Practice comes with Business Challenges · With limited business training in grad school, therapists often struggle with marketing, setting up systems, and attracting clients. · Therapists can overthink how they set up their practice, causing delays and inefficiency Many Private Practice Clinicians experience isolation · Private practice can feel lonely · Networking, consultation groups, and in-person connections are essential for combating isolation. Private practice can be boring or monotonous · If you are tightly niched or work only with the worried well, you may encounter little clinical challenge · If you are only doing one to one work, you may desire more diversity of tasks to stay interested (like teaching, podcasting, etc.) If you own your own business, figure out how to deal with accountability issues · Without structured oversight, therapists may face difficulties staying organized or motivated, which can lead to burnout · Depending on who you talk with, you might convince yourself that no one is caught up on notes or paying their taxes on time – which isn’t accurate. What can therapists do to make private practice better? · Network and nurture social and professional support · Get systems set up (and make them as simple as possible) to streamline your work · Think about diversifying what you do, to keep yourself engaged with the work Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
REPLAY - Outside Obsessions We’re still on vacation, but we wanted to share one of our favorite episodes with all of you. We start with a quick reflection on the episode and what we’ve learned since it originally aired. Today’s replay is of Episode 95: Outside Obsessions. In this episode we talk about how to handle the hobbies and goals in our personal lives that can be all consuming, especially if they come into the therapy room. You can see the original show notes and transcripts for episode 95 here: Outside Obsessions ( https://bit.ly/mtsgpodcast95 ).…
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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
1 REPLAY - It’s Time to Think About Your Goals 28:23
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedREPLAY - It’s Time to Think About Your Goals We’re on vacation, but we wanted to share one of our favorite episodes with all of you. We start with a quick reflection on the episode and what we’ve learned since it originally aired. Today’s replay is of Episode 18: It’s Time to Think About Your Goals. This is one of our first episodes and you can see what we were working on for 2018. This episode is timeless and timely. Happy New Year, all! You can see the original show notes and transcripts for episode 18 here: It’s Time to Think About Your Goals ( https://bit.ly/mtsgpodcast18 ).…
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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
1 An ER Doctor Reflects on Gun Violence, Health Inequities, and Moral Injury: An interview with Dr. Ruby J. Long 33:51
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAn ER Doctor Reflects on Gun Violence, Health Inequities, and Moral Injury: An interview with Dr. Ruby J. Long Curt and Katie interview Dr. Ruby Long, ER doctor and restorative justice advocate, about the devastating impact of gun violence in the U.S. and its designation as a public health crisis. Dr. Long highlights its rise as the leading cause of death for children and adolescents and shares the emotional toll on healthcare providers. She reflects on compassion fatigue and moral injury in the ER, which was exacerbated by health inequity and the covid pandemic. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk with Dr. Ruby Long about gun violence Dr. Ruby J. Long has been an ER doctor for a long time and has seen a lot of gun violence come through her doors. She is reaching out to help providers understand the specifics, provides a helpful acronym and is sharing her resourceful book. The Reality of Gun Violence in the U.S. 54% of U.S. adults have been directly affected by firearm violence. Gun violence has surpassed other leading causes of death for children and adolescents. Firearms are the leading cause of death in suicides. It is important that providers are able to identify risk factors, particularly for senior males and veterans, and promoting secure gun storage. How can gun violence impact the medical and mental health providers who are supporting victims? The moral injuries and trauma healthcare professionals face from witnessing the physical and mental health impacts of gun violence. Dr. Long shares her own experiences as an ER doctor and the profound emotional impact of treating gunshot victims. The importance of responsible gun storage and using the "Be SMART" approach: Secure guns. Model responsible behavior. Ask about unsecured guns. Recognize the role of guns in suicide. Tell peers about gun safety. Provider Support and Self-Care: Coping with burnout and moral injuries through personal limits, professional therapy, and systemic support (beyond yoga mats and pizza parties) The importance of small, focused actions in advocating for gun safety and violence prevention. Dr. Long’s Book: Love Letters to Patients Inspired by her experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic. Offers resources for health challenges like suicide, domestic violence, and overdose. Aims to empower patients and encourage early intervention. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
1 Reporting Back from the Behavioral Health Tech 2024 Conference 43:17
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedReporting Back from the Behavioral Health Tech 2024 Conference Curt and Katie chat about Katie’s attendance at the 2024 Behavioral Health Teach conference. Katie reported back on investment trends, how Value Based Care is being understood and implemented, and how therapists can navigate these tech disruptors and evolving business models. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we report back on updates in the behavioral health tech space We decided to have Katie go to the Behavioral Health Tech 2024 conference to learn about innovations and leaders in the behavioral health tech space. This episode is an out brief with updates for all clinicians. What is the Behavioral Health Tech conference? · This is a newer conference that brings together VCs, founders, insurance payors, and clinicians · The focus of this conference is on innovation, especially technology solutions for what they were describing as a broken mental health system Investment trends in the Behavioral Health space · AI Therapy · Self-help tools · VR for social skills (i.e., in the Autism space) · Measurement-based care (including wearables, journals, and assessment tools) · Integrated EHR systems that include the ability to have “interoperability” between providers What is Value-Based Care and what does that mean for behavioral health providers? · There is a stepped or tiered process to implement Value-Based Care · First step is enhanced fee for service, with augmented fees for better outcomes · The next step is a rate per client model with incentives and penalties (upside/downside) · The final step is a fully capitated model where the clinician provides comprehensive care, with potential risk (you underestimated the costs) and potential benefit (you price appropriately and have the opportunity for higher per client reimbursement than in a fee-for-service model) · Solo (or “single shingle”) practitioners will have difficulty with the aggregated data that is needed to negotiate these contracts with payors. · Larger, potentially VC funded groups are aggregating this data and negotiating higher rates, but may not be passing on much of this increased rate to the clinicians they hire or contract with What are the opportunities and challenges facing therapists with the advances in tech? · It is critical for therapists to become more efficient, look for opportunities to collaborate, and incorporate technology effectively to be able to success in VBC models (or in the new marketplace) · Group or specialized practices are better-situated to navigate these challenges than individual practitioners · Outcome measures may be key to competing in the new marketplace How can mental health clinicians advocate related to these new advances in technology? · Clinicians should be involved in these conversations around how therapy and business models are evolving · Advocacy to make sure there is clinician and client input on how these systems are put together What should therapists do now to future-proof their practice? · Identify and integrate outcome measures into your therapy practice · Stay informed about what is up and coming in the field · Streamline your operations to increase efficiency and prepare for VBC models · Join advocacy groups to make sure therapist perspectives are represented in the new care models. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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Working for 988: Insider Perspectives Curt and Katie received feedback on our recent one year follow-up episode on the rollout of 988. We received responses from a person who was working within the 988 system as well as someone who started going through the training for the text crisis hotline. We were able to put more depth into our understanding of how this system works. We explored training, supervision, funding, potential equity issues, and concerns for staff. We also share ideas for advocacy. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we report back on employee experiences within the 988/crisis response system We share two insider experiences working within the crisis response system around 988. Listeners shared their experiences with training as an emergency worker within the 988 system: For the text crisis hotlines, there were concerns about insufficient, online-only training models that lack supervision and focus on formulaic responses. For the call center, there was a report of extensive initial training (9 full time weeks of training) but minimal supervision post-training. What are 988 insider concerns regarding AI and Data Privacy? Ethical concerns around AI tools used for measuring empathy and issues with data collection practices. Balancing AI integration with trauma-informed care and caller anonymity. How does 988 Funding work and what are potential equity Issues? Fragmented funding models tied to sources like Medicaid lead to inconsistent protocols and potentially inequitable care. Federal funding is needed to standardize practices and improve service quality. An insider report on 988 Call Center challenges: High burnout rates among staff due to limited resources and support. Gaps in follow-up care for callers due to funding and staffing constraints. Takeaways and Solutions for 988 and the full crisis response system: Advocacy is needed for dedicated federal funding to ensure consistent training, equitable care, and trauma-informed practices. It would be best to have standardized protocols to strengthen the 988 crisis hotline system. Thoughtful integration of AI to enhance efficiency while maintaining ethical standards. Support for call center staff to prevent burnout and improve service outcomes. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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How Do Therapists Get Paid? Curt and Katie chat about how community mental health as well as insurance, hybrid, or private pay practices get money and pay their workers. We emphasize the importance of recognizing the financial realities of the mental health profession and how advocacy can drive change in the field. We also encourage therapists to understand the systems we work in and engage in conversations about financial transparency and sustainability. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode we talk about how compensation is set up There have been a lot of conversations about how therapists get paid and whether associates or newer therapists are being exploited. We decided to pull the curtain back to identify how money actually works in this profession. What do therapists need to know about how finances work in mental health? · How income is allocated across salaries, rent, insurance, and administrative costs. · Why clinicians’ salaries represent just a fraction of total practice income. · The impact of government contracts and insurance reimbursements on budgeting. · • The Financial Dynamics of Therapy Practices: · How income is allocated across salaries, rent, insurance, and administrative costs. · Why clinician salaries represent just a portion of what practice owners need to pay. · The impact of government contracts and insurance reimbursements on budgeting. What are common misconceptions about group practice owners? · There is a view that all group practice owners exploit therapists. This is often very far from the reality of group practice owners sacrificing their own pay for payroll · We highlight the financial risks, responsibilities, and long hours owners take on. Understanding Community Mental Health Budgets: · Breaking down how agencies allocate funds from government contracts. · Challenges like unfunded mandates and balancing clinician pay with program needs. Managing Budgets in Group Practices: · The complexities of balancing overhead costs, clinician pay, and sustainable growth. · How practice owners often work unpaid hours to cover supervision, billing, and other administrative tasks. Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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1 How to Scale Your Therapy Practice to 7 Figures So You Can Sell It: An interview with Nicole McCance 36:34
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow to Scale Your Therapy Practice to 7 Figures So You Can Sell It: An interview with Nicole McCance Curt and Katie interview Nicole McCance about her journey to selling her 7-figure group therapy practice. We look at common challenges therapists face in this process as well as ideas and methods Nicole teaches to help others scale their practice more easily. Nicole shares systems, hiring, and leadership strategies. We also look at some important considerations when planning to sell your practice. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com ! In this podcast episode, we talk with Nicole McCance about scaling your practice Nicole McCance scaled her practice and then sold it. We dug into her systems and thought processes in creating a sellable group practice. What do therapists typically get wrong when growing their group practices? · New group practice owners often don’t have their systems written down · Unreasonable expectations of the difficulty in hiring clinicians · Not knowing which path to take regarding marketing and other group practice decisions What is Nicole McCance’s model for growing a group practice? · Systemize your operations · Build your dream team (with your first hire being your mini me) · Attract clients with digital marketing · Converting clients using free consults · Retain clients with follow ups What are important steps to get your practice ready to sell? · Your branding must not be your name · You will need to be able to sell your clinicians and move clients into their caseloads · You need to move into the role of CEO and not get stuck in the clinician role · Take the time you need to make that transition What should therapists consider when deciding whether to scale their practice to a group? · If you’re feeling isolated, find a community · There are a lot of steps, systems, and processes that you’ll need to develop (or purchase from someone else) · If you don’t like change or don’t do well with pressure, don’t go into group practice · You will need to have the ability to read the market to guide hires and growth · Focus on excellence and service needs, not growth for growth’s sake · Build a culture that supports your clinicians and helps decrease clinician turnover · Figuring out how to pay your clinicians may be more complex than you realize Stay in Touch with Curt, Katie, and the whole Therapy Reimagined #TherapyMovement: Our Linktree: https://linktr.ee/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Creative Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano https://groomsymusic.com/…
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