Ashley Cunningham on Courage, Cinnamon Rolls, and the Discipline Behind Optimism

The Optimist Project with Yara Shahidi

✨ Food Lovers, Dreamers, and Anyone on a Journey Toward Self-Mastery—This One’s for You.

This week on The Optimist Project, we’re joined by classically trained chef, self-taught baker, and founder of Bad Ash Bakes, Ashley Cunningham.

Ashley’s story is one of fearless evolution—from teenage culinary prodigy to full-time entrepreneur with a deep spiritual practice and a next-level cookie game. In this intimate and inspiring conversation, she opens up about learning discipline through early responsibility, navigating tough kitchens with compassion, and facing fear head-on in pursuit of her dream.

We talk about the rituals that ground her, the power of silence and prayer, and how she creates space for joy, intention, and community through her bakery. Ashley’s brand of optimism is rooted in showing up, staying steady, and pushing past fear—not just for herself, but for the young Black women she hopes to inspire.

✨ Ashley drops gems on growth, grace, and building a legacy that tastes as good as it feels.

What does discipline mean to you? What space are you creating to welcome others?

📩 We want to hear from you—DM us, send a voice note, or leave us a message and share your version of optimism.

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✨ Executive Producer: @yarashahidi // Yara Shahidi

✨ Executive Producer: @chocolatemommyluv // Keri Salter-Shahidi

🎙 Guest: @sobadash_ // Ashley Cunningham

🍪 @badashbakes // Bad Ash Bakes // 247 E Colorado Blvd, Pasadena, CA 91101

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🎧 Tap in—because optimism, like a good cookie, is best when shared.