Episode 187 Firewalking and Inner Knowing: A Conversation with Theresa Hubbard and Walker Bird

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram, we had the pleasure of welcoming special guests Theresa Hubbard and Walker Bird, who shared their unique journey into the realm of self-discovery and inner knowing. We engaged in a deep conversation about the transformative power of firewalking, a practice that Theresa initially explored as a means to connect with her body and emotions.

Theresa recounted her personal journey, highlighting how firewalking helped her break through mental barriers and access deeper emotional truths. She emphasized the importance of listening to our bodies and trusting our inner knowing, which aligns beautifully with the Enneagram's focus on the mind, heart, and body centers. Walker shared his own experiences with firewalking and how it has influenced his perspective as a trial attorney, illustrating the balance between vulnerability and strength in both his professional and personal life.

Throughout the episode, we explored themes of vulnerability, the importance of community, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery. Theresa and Walker discussed their podcast, My Inner Knowing, where they delve into various topics related to personal growth and consciousness. They also shared insights about their retreats, which combine experiential learning with mindfulness practices, fostering a safe space for participants to explore their inner selves.

As we wrapped up the conversation, we reflected on the shared goal of helping others navigate their own journeys toward self-awareness and authenticity. We encourage our listeners to check out Theresa and Walker's work at MyInnerKnowing.com, where they can find resources, podcasts, and information about upcoming retreats.

Thank you for joining us today, and we hope you found inspiration in our discussion about the power of inner knowing and the transformative experiences that can arise from stepping into the unknown.

To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info

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Episode 187 Firewalking and Inner Knowing: A Conversation with Theresa Hubbard and Walker Bird

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Episode 191 Forgiveness and the Shadow: Insights from Drexel Rayford 46:41

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we welcomed back our own Reverend Dr. Drexel Rayford, a senior faculty member at the Institute for Conscious Being. Our conversation centered around the discipline of silence and its profound role in contemplation, as well as the tenacity of the ego and its resistance to what it perceives as its diminishment. Drexel shared a poignant story from his graduate school days that highlighted the essence of spiritual maturity, emphasizing the importance of humility and the acknowledgment of not knowing. We explored how silence can create space for the soul to flourish, allowing us to listen to a deeper presence beyond our constant thoughts and ego-driven chatter. We also delved into the complexities of self-forgiveness, discussing how the ego often struggles to see itself as part of the problem in interpersonal conflicts. Drexel reflected on his own journey of understanding and forgiving himself for past actions, recognizing that we are all shaped by our experiences and the systems around us. Throughout the episode, we highlighted the contrast between the ego's judgment and the soul's curiosity, encouraging listeners to embrace their shadows and the interconnectedness of our human experiences. Drexel's insights reminded us that true spiritual growth comes from surrendering control and allowing our souls to guide us toward healing and authenticity. We hope you find this conversation as enriching as we did, and we invite you to join us in exploring these themes further in your own lives. Thank you for listening! To hear Drexel's music, including "Nine Prayers of the Soul" and "The Seeking Soul," visit: vagrantschapel.com To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 190 Exploring the Depths: A Know-Your-Soul Meditation 41:54

27 days ago41:54

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we delve into the theme of meditation, specifically focusing on a "know-your-soul" meditation. Joe shares his insights on the importance of understanding our essence and soul, emphasizing that our true identity goes beyond the mind. We discuss Joe's personal journey with meditation, recalling his first experience at a study group during his time as a graduate student at Yale. He reflects on how meditation has transformed his life, allowing him to find stillness amidst the chaos of daily life. Joe also introduces us to Heartfulness meditation, a practice that emphasizes the heart as the primary organ for connecting with our soul. He recounts his experiences at an ashram in India, where he learned this unique approach to meditation. Before guiding us through a meditation session, Joe offers valuable advice for those new to meditation or returning after a break. He encourages a gentle approach, emphasizing relaxation and the importance of being present without expectations. We conclude the episode with a guided meditation that invites listeners to connect with their inner selves, embodying aspects such as compassion, creativity, wisdom, and joy. This meditation serves as a reminder of the wholeness and serenity that can be accessed through mindful practice. Thank you for joining us today! If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your friends and family. To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 189 Embracing the Small Stuff: Applying the Enneagram to Daily Life 37:09

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we delve into the profound ways the Enneagram can help us understand our souls during moments of daily struggle. Co-hosts Dr. Joe Howell, Nanette Mudiam, and Scott Smith discuss how, while many people are drawn to the Enneagram through a critical mass of suffering, the Enneagram is also brilliant at helping us navigate the smaller, day to day challenges that life throws at us. We explore these everyday challenges that can lead to small sufferings, such as losing keys or dealing with family dynamics, and how these situations can trigger our ego patterns. Dr. Joe shares a personal story about losing his keys at the gym, illustrating how stress can cloud our judgment and lead us to blame others or ourselves. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing the ego's narratives and how they can distort our perception of reality. The conversation shifts to how the soul can guide us through these challenges by encouraging us to ask what we can learn from our experiences. We discuss the significance of virtues and holy ideas in helping us respond to life's difficulties with awareness and compassion, rather than falling back into our ego's traps. Ultimately, we remind our listeners that the Enneagram is not just a tool for understanding ourselves but a means to navigate the complexities of daily life with greater consciousness. We hope this episode inspires you to apply the wisdom of the Enneagram in your own daily struggles and to recognize the opportunities for growth that lie within them. Thank you for joining us! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 188 Dr. David Gruder: Transforming Organizations with the Enneagram 38:48

8 weeks ago38:48

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. David Gruder, a self described "recovering psychologist and professional troublemaker." Dr. Gruder shared his unique perspective on the Enneagram and how he integrates it into his work with leaders across various industries, including government and business. We explored his five-step Enneagram Strategy, which helps individuals identify their primary Enneagram type, nuance their understanding of subtypes and wings, heal core wounds, appreciate the strengths of other types, and ultimately transcend their primary type to access the "superpowers" of all nine Enneagram types. Dr. Gruder also discussed the importance of understanding one's core wounds, using his own experience as an Enneagram 1 as an example. He emphasized the significance of healing childhood wounds and how they shape our adult behaviors and interactions. A key theme of our conversation was the evolution of the marketplace, moving from a focus on products to experiences, and now towards a transcendent marketplace that prioritizes spiritual development. Dr. Gruder highlighted the role of integrity in leadership and how it connects to being a whole and complete person. We also delved into the importance of the lover archetype in the workplace, particularly in the context of HR, and how leaders can create a culture that values both beingness and doingness. Dr. Gruder provided insights on how to help leaders embrace their vulnerabilities and the necessity of balancing different archetypal energies for effective leadership. Finally, we discussed Dr. Gruder's offerings, including his role as a fractional chief people officer and his resources for male leaders seeking to elevate their leadership skills. His books, The Nimble C-Suite and The Nimble Company , focus on fostering innovation and resilience in business. More information about Dr. Gruder's offerings can be found at drgruder.com . We hope you enjoyed this enlightening conversation and gained valuable insights into the Enneagram and its application in personal and professional development. Thank you for listening! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 187 Firewalking and Inner Knowing: A Conversation with Theresa Hubbard and Walker Bird 38:23

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we had the pleasure of welcoming special guests Theresa Hubbard and Walker Bird, who shared their unique journey into the realm of self-discovery and inner knowing. We engaged in a deep conversation about the transformative power of firewalking, a practice that Theresa initially explored as a means to connect with her body and emotions. Theresa recounted her personal journey, highlighting how firewalking helped her break through mental barriers and access deeper emotional truths. She emphasized the importance of listening to our bodies and trusting our inner knowing, which aligns beautifully with the Enneagram's focus on the mind, heart, and body centers. Walker shared his own experiences with firewalking and how it has influenced his perspective as a trial attorney, illustrating the balance between vulnerability and strength in both his professional and personal life. Throughout the episode, we explored themes of vulnerability, the importance of community, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery. Theresa and Walker discussed their podcast, My Inner Knowing , where they delve into various topics related to personal growth and consciousness. They also shared insights about their retreats, which combine experiential learning with mindfulness practices, fostering a safe space for participants to explore their inner selves. As we wrapped up the conversation, we reflected on the shared goal of helping others navigate their own journeys toward self-awareness and authenticity. We encourage our listeners to check out Theresa and Walker's work at MyInnerKnowing.com , where they can find resources, podcasts, and information about upcoming retreats. Thank you for joining us today, and we hope you found inspiration in our discussion about the power of inner knowing and the transformative experiences that can arise from stepping into the unknown. To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 186 Embodying Your Soul: Practical Applications of the Enneagram 41:51

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we continue our exploration of Dr. Joe Howell's new book, Know Your Soul: Journeying with the Enneagram and delve into the practical applications of the Enneagram, emphasizing that the ultimate goal is to deepen our understanding of our souls rather than merely improving our egos. Joe shares his insights on how each person is a, "living document," with unique experiences that shape their understanding of the universe and spirit. He discusses the concept of "shock points"—moments in life where we face dilemmas that challenge our capacities and require us to seek deeper truths. We explore how spiritual practices, such as mindfulness meditation and embodiment practices, can help us recognize when our unchecked ego is dominating our lives. Throughout the conversation, we highlight the importance of inquiry as a tool for self-discovery. Joe recounts a profound experience of inquiry that led him to realize that the expectations he felt were imposed by his parents were, in fact, expectations he had internalized himself. This realization brought him a sense of freedom and empowerment. Scott shares his own experience with inquiry, illustrating how it helped him cultivate self-compassion and shift his inner dialogue from self-judgment to curiosity. We emphasize that the journey of knowing our souls is not about achieving a destination but about navigating the complexities of life with awareness and openness. As we wrap up, we encourage our listeners to recognize that their souls are always available to them, offering guidance and insight as they navigate life's challenges. We hope this episode inspires you to embark on your own journey of self-discovery and soul knowledge. Thank you for joining us! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 185 From Personality to Soulality: Knowing Your Soul 37:24

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , co-hosts Nanette Mudiam, Dr. Joe Howell, and Scott Smith dive deep into the theme of the year for the Institute for Conscious Being: "Know Your Soul." We explore Dr. Joe's new book, Know Your Soul: Journeying with the Enneagram , which emphasizes the Enneagram as a journey toward understanding our true essence beyond mere personality traits. We discuss the origins of the Enneagram, tracing its roots back to George Ivanovich Gurdjieff and the ancient wisdom he uncovered. Dr. Joe shares his personal journey with the Enneagram, highlighting how it has been instrumental in his work as a psychologist and in his own spiritual growth, especially following the profound loss of his son. This experience led him to a deeper understanding of the Enneagram, revealing that it is not just about personality but about connecting with our soul. Throughout the conversation, we touch on the concept of the "soul child" and how it relates to our spiritual journey. Dr. Joe emphasizes that while we all possess various soul energies, each of us has a primary energy that shapes our essence. We also discuss the importance of community in deepening our understanding of the soul and how spiritual awareness can lead to transformation. As we wrap up, we invite listeners to reflect on their own journeys and the maps they use to navigate their spiritual paths. We encourage everyone to explore the insights shared in Dr. Joe's book and to join us in future discussions as we continue to uncover the depths of the Enneagram and its relevance to our lives. Thank you for tuning in! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 184 Bridging the Gap: Reflecting on Our Series on the Holy Ideas and Virtues 44:03

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we wrap up our series on the Holy Ideas and Virtues, reflecting on the profound insights shared by our guests over the past nine episodes. Joined by Dr. Joe Howell and Scott Smith, we delve into the concept of amnesia surrounding our holy ideas and explore why we often forget these integral aspects of our true selves. Dr. Joe explains that the holy ideas represent the way we perceived the world as soul children, free from the constraints of our egos. However, as we grow, we often lose sight of these ideas, leading to a sense of disconnection from our essence. The ego drives us to justify our existence, creating a narrative that we must earn our place in the world. This quest for validation can lead to feelings of inadequacy and fear, as we strive to meet external expectations rather than embracing our inherent worth. Throughout our discussion, we emphasize the importance of remembering our holy ideas and virtues as a means of healing and reconnecting with our true selves. We share personal experiences and practical practices that can help nurture these ideas, highlighting that the journey involves intentionality and self-awareness. Ultimately, we encourage our listeners to engage with their spiritual practices, as they are essential for integrating the wisdom of the Enneagram into daily life. As we conclude this series, we express our gratitude to our guests and invite our audience to continue exploring these concepts with us at the Institute for Conscious Being. Thank you for joining us on this journey, and we look forward to our next series! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 183 Embracing Diligence and Cultivating Self-Compassion with Gladys Schaefer 27:38

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we had the privilege of hosting Gladys Schaefer, a dear friend and dedicated student from the Institute for Conscious Being (ICB). As a fellow type nine, Gladys shared her insightful journey of discovering her Enneagram type and the profound impact it has had on her life. Gladys began by recounting how she found ICB through a Google search while seeking a name for her dyslexia tutoring business. This search led her to a conference where she was first introduced to the Enneagram. Initially identifying as a type two, she ultimately found her true identity at the nine table, where she connected deeply with others who shared her worldview. During our conversation, we explored the common challenges faced by nines, particularly the struggle with self-love and the difficulty in recognizing personal needs. Gladys emphasized the importance of diligence as the virtue of the nine, contrasting it with the busyness that often obscures deeper issues. She shared her passion for literacy, which was ignited by her experiences with her daughter, and how this passion has driven her to pursue a career in education, helping others overcome their challenges. We also discussed the significance of community for nines, highlighting how it provides the support and energy necessary for engaging in diligent action. Gladys illustrated her recent efforts to build connections within her church and writing classes, demonstrating how being part of a community can invigorate and motivate us. As we concluded the episode, we reflected on the journey of self-compassion and the importance of recognizing our own worth. Gladys's story serves as a powerful reminder of the transformative potential of the Enneagram and the growth that comes from embracing our authentic selves. Thank you for joining us today. We hope you found inspiration in Gladys's journey. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your friends and family! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 182 Strength and Vulnerability: A Conversation with Valerie Wheat 28:51

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we had the pleasure of welcoming our dear friend Valerie Wheat, an instructor at the College of Education at Jacksonville State University. Valerie shared her journey with the Enneagram, which began about ten years ago when a friend introduced her to the concept. Initially, she approached it superficially, but as her friendship with Dr. Joe Howell deepened, she began to explore the Enneagram more profoundly, ultimately identifying as an Enneagram Type 8. We discussed the common misconceptions surrounding Type 8s, including the shame some feel about their assertive nature. Valerie reflected on her experiences and how her son Jonathan encouraged her to embrace her identity as an 8, highlighting the healthy aspects of this type. We also explored the holy ideas and virtues associated with Type 8, particularly focusing on holy truth and holy compassion, as well as the virtue of innocence. Valerie shared a poignant personal story about her quest for truth during a crisis of belief in her 20s, which resonated deeply with her understanding of the holy idea of truth. She emphasized how this journey has shaped her life and her approach to challenges, including her husband's serious health issues over the past few years. Valerie's self-awareness and growth have allowed her to navigate these difficulties with grace and empathy, transforming her interactions with students and others around her. Throughout the episode, we highlighted the importance of doing the inner work associated with the Enneagram, recognizing that while it can be challenging, it ultimately leads to personal growth and deeper connections with others. We are grateful for Valerie's vulnerability and insights, which serve as a testament to the transformative power of understanding oneself through the lens of the Enneagram. Thank you for joining us, and we hope you find inspiration in Valerie's journey! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 181 How Art Wimberly Integrates the Enneagram into Recovery Work 37:48

22 weeks ago37:48

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we had the pleasure of welcoming Art Wimberly, an adjunct faculty member of the Institute for Conscious Being and a vibrant Type 7. Art shared his journey of self-discovery, which began during a silent retreat where he stumbled upon the Enneagram through a book by Father Richard Rohr. He discussed how his initial understanding of the Enneagram was more theoretical, lacking the depth of inner work until he encountered a teacher who helped him integrate the two systems of recovery and the Enneagram. Art opened up about his long-term recovery journey, highlighting the struggles he faced with addiction. He emphasized the importance of facing pain and how the 12-step program helped him process his experiences. This journey led him to a significant turning point in his life, where he began to embrace wisdom and the idea of a holy plan, which resonated deeply with his Type 7 nature. We explored the integration of the Enneagram into recovery work, discussing how understanding one's type can provide valuable insights for both individuals in recovery and their loved ones. Art shared practical ways he incorporates the Enneagram into his coaching, helping clients recognize patterns and make healthier choices. As we wrapped up, we reflected on the power of the Enneagram in revealing the unique traps and strengths of each type, particularly in the context of addiction and recovery. We encourage our listeners to explore the upcoming conferences and resources available through the Institute for Conscious Being, especially for those affected by addiction in any capacity. Thank you for joining us today, and we hope you found Art's insights as inspiring as we did! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 180 Coming Home to Myself: Leigh Anne Taylor's Story of Integration 35:14

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we are thrilled to welcome Leigh Anne Taylor, a recent graduate of the Institute for Conscious Being. Leigh Anne shares her journey as a Type 6, highlighting her experiences with fear, anxiety, and the importance of self-understanding. She reflects on her initial struggles to identify her Enneagram type, revealing how reading Joe Howell's book, Becoming Conscious , helped her feel seen and understood. Leigh Anne discusses her role as an encourager in her professional life, serving clergy and churches in Virginia, and her passion for music and writing. She also opens up about her personal journey, including her co-authored memoir, Our Family Outing . Throughout the conversation, we delve into the unique challenges and strengths of Type 6 individuals, particularly the balance between vulnerability and courage. Leigh Anne shares a poignant story from her childhood that illustrates her journey toward integration and healing, emphasizing the importance of self-compassion and forgiveness. As we explore the Enneagram's role in personal growth, Leigh Anne highlights the significance of community and the safe space provided by the Institute for Conscious Being. We conclude with reflections on how embracing our vulnerabilities can lead to greater strength and self-acceptance. Join us for this insightful discussion that not only resonates with Type 6 listeners but also offers valuable lessons for everyone on the path to self-discovery and integration. Thank you for listening! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 179 Cosmic Slime Molds and Divine Connection: Insights from Scott Smith 29:23

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we had the pleasure of turning the tables and welcoming our own Scott Smith as a guest. Scott, who is typically behind the scenes as our producer and editor, shared his personal journey with the Enneagram, particularly as a Type 5. Scott recounted how he initially dismissed Dr. Joe Howell's book due to his narrow understanding of spirituality and his rationalistic worldview. However, after experiencing a significant period of suffering, he found himself drawn to both Joe's book, Becoming Conscious, and Philip Shepherd's Radical Wholeness . These readings opened him up to new perspectives on spirituality and self-understanding, leading him to embrace the Enneagram and TEPP (The Embodied Present Process) as tools for personal growth. We delved into the virtues and holy ideas associated with Type 5, particularly focusing on the virtue of detachment and the holy ideas of omniscience and transparency. Dr. Joe Howell articulated how detachment is not about withdrawing, but about letting go of our attachments to ideas and concepts that can limit our understanding of reality. Scott shared a profound experience he had during a retreat, where he practiced a meditation technique that allowed him to open to a deep sense of peace and connection to something greater than himself. This moment of grace highlighted the importance of being present and receptive, rather than chasing after spiritual experiences and ideas. Throughout the episode, we emphasized that the qualities of peace, grace, and presence are available to everyone, regardless of their Enneagram type. We hope that Scott's journey and insights inspire our listeners to explore their own spiritual paths and recognize the potential for growth and connection in their lives. Thank you for joining us today, and we encourage you to continue exploring the Enneagram and its transformative power. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your friends and family! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 178 Finding Balance: Pavan Mudiam's Path to Equanimity and Holy Origin 33:24

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In this episode of The Real Enneagram , we had the pleasure of welcoming Pavan Mudiam, a former student of the Institute for Conscious Being, to discuss his journey with the Enneagram and the significance of virtues and holy ideas in his life. Pavan shared how he was introduced to the Enneagram through his mother, Nanette, and how his initial curiosity led him to attend a transformative ICB conference at Kanuga. We explored his experience of discovering his ego type as a Four, and how this understanding has shaped his emotional landscape, particularly in relation to his virtue of equanimity and holy idea of holy origin. Throughout our conversation, Pavan reflected on the challenges he faced, including the profound impact of losing a close friend in college. This loss served as a pivotal moment in his life, pushing him to seek deeper meaning and authenticity. He articulated how pain can be a powerful teacher, guiding him toward personal growth and a clearer understanding of his purpose. We also discussed Pavan's marriage to Chelsea, who is also a Four, and how they navigate their relationship by balancing each other's strengths and weaknesses. Parenthood has further grounded Pavan, as he learns to embody equanimity for the sake of their daughter, Raina. As we wrapped up, we emphasized the importance of recognizing the ongoing journey of self-discovery and the role of the Enneagram as a tool for understanding ourselves and our relationships. Pavan's insights and experiences serve as a reminder of the beauty and complexity of the human experience, and we are grateful for his willingness to share his story with us. Thank you for tuning in to this episode, and we hope you find inspiration in Pavan's journey as much as we did! To learn more about the Institute for Conscious Being, visit: theicb.info…

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Episode 177 The Journey from Ego to Authenticity with Reverend Barrett Owen 37:40

30 weeks ago37:40