397 - Nicholas Reeves - What Is Music?

The Symbolic World

In this conversation, I sit down with composer and church musician Nicholas Reeves to explore one of the great mysteries: music. Why does music move us so deeply? How does it reflect symbolic patterns in reality? We discuss the ancient and modern roles of music—from sacred liturgies to EDM dance floors—and ask whether the liturgy might be the ultimate artwork. We also dive into the contrasts between order and chaos in sound, the compression of human experience, and the sacred role of communal participation in worship. This discussion really opened new paths for me—I hope it does the same for you.
Nicholas’s work can be found at: https://www.nicholasreevesmusic.com
YouTube version: https://youtu.be/26ORdueGcIo
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:29 - Intro music
01:55 - Introduction
02:50 - Understanding ourselves through music
10:22 - The human voice
18:56 - Rhythm
21:11 - Dance and what music is
24:40 - Variety and sameness
32:08 - Reinventing yourself
35:21 - Church music
43:57 - Continuity
46:56 - Moments in liturgy
49:30 - Music in America
54:54 - The complete work of art
59:14 - Making pop culture more participative
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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/