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409: ‘The Dynamic Paradox’, With Nilay Patel
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Nilay Patel returns to the show to consider the iPhones 16.
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- Nilay’s review of the iPhone 16 Pro.
- Also from Nilay: “Let’s Compare Apple, Google, and Samsung’s Definitions of ‘a Photo’”.
- Yours Truly’s iPhones 16 review.
- Also from truly: “The Things They Carried” (thoughts and observations on Apple’s event).
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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Nilay Patel returns to the show to consider the iPhones 16.
Sponsored by:
- Tiptop: A new way to pay that combines Instant Trade-In and Pay-in-4 at checkout.
- Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order.
Links:
- Nilay’s review of the iPhone 16 Pro.
- Also from Nilay: “Let’s Compare Apple, Google, and Samsung’s Definitions of ‘a Photo’”.
- Yours Truly’s iPhones 16 review.
- Also from truly: “The Things They Carried” (thoughts and observations on Apple’s event).
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.
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1 426: ‘The Cutting Edge Latest Supermodel’, With David Smith 2:12:15
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Special guest David Smith returns to the show for a developer's perspective look at WWDC 2025. Sponsored by: TRMNL : A hackable e-ink display. Save $15 with code GRUBER . Squarespace : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow . Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: Michael Flarup's mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon Louie Mantia's (even better) mockup for a MacOS 26 Finder icon Benedict Evans: “ The Best Is the Last ” Podsearch Under the Radar David-Smith.org Widgetsmith Pedometer++ Sleep++ Widgetsmith Hands-On: How Apple’s New Speech APIs Outpace Whisper for Lightning-Fast Transcription Tim Cook Reveals Apple’s Vision for Movies and TV Musk’s xAI Burns Through $1 Billion a Month as Costs Pile Up This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 425: ‘Through the Wall Like Kool-Aid Man’, With Chance Miller 1:44:02
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Chance Miller returns to the show to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2025. Sponsored by: Factor : Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box with code talkshow50off . Squarespace : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow . BetterHelp : Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: Daring Fireball: “ One Week Out, Some Brief Thoughts and Observations on WWDC 2025” . WatchOS 26 finally supports once-per-second ticking seconds hands on more watch faces on Series 10 . The ongoing dispute between Apple and Massimo over the blood oxygen sensors in recent Apple Watch models . May 2024: “ Apple Apologizes for Controversial iPad Pro Ad, Scraps Plans for TV Campaign ”. August 2024: “ Apple Pulls Latest Ad After Criticism Over Depiction of Thailand ”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 424: ‘Live From WWDC 2025’, With Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel 2:06:04
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Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose Tuesday evening, special guests Joanna Stern and Nilay Patel join me to discuss Apple’s announcements at WWDC 2025. Video: This show is available to watch in 4K video on YouTube . 3D video with spatial audio: Exclusively in Sandwich Vision 's Theater on Vision Pro, available on the App Store. Sponsored by: iMazing : The world’s most trusted software to transfer and save your messages, music, files, and data from your iPhone or iPad to your Mac or PC. DetailsPro : Design with SwiftUI anytime, anywhere -- on iPhone, iPad, Mac, or Apple Vision Pro. Ooni : Next-gen pizza power. The Koda 2 Pro oven features smarter heat, more room, and easier control. Save 10% with code thetalkshow . Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: WWDC 2025 Keynote . Joanna’s full 24-minute interview with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak this week. The Verge: 28-minute supercut of the WWDC 2025 keynote and their take on the 13 biggest announcements . This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 423: ‘Sewing Machine Repair Shop’, With Patrick McGee 1:32:42
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Patrick McGee joins the show to discuss his must-read new book, Apple in China -- one of the best books about Apple anyone has ever written. Sponsored by: Factor : Healthy eating, made easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Notion : Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Squarespace : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow . Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: “ Apple in China ”, Patrick’s spectacular new book. Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart . Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London . This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 422: ‘A Monkey on a Rock’, With Stephen Hackett 2:14:46
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Stephen Hackett, proprietor of 512 Pixels and co-founder of Relay (purveyor of many fine podcasts), joins the show. Topics include: IO (or if you will, io), the new joint venture of OpenAI and Jony Ive’s LoveFrom; the sheer fantasy of “Made in America” iPhones; and Fortnite’s return to the US App Store. Sponsored by: WorkOS : The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. BetterHelp : Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Squarespace : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code talkshow . Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: Apple in China , Patrick’s spectacular new book. Patrick on The Daily Show With Jon Stewart . Excerpt from the book in the Sunday Times of London . Millions, Billions, Zillions , Brian Kernighan’s fun little book on practical day-to-day math. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 421: ‘The Ratchet of Flippancy’, With Craig Mod 1:53:11
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Craig Mod returns to the show to discuss his splendid new book, Things Become Other Things . Other topics include creating with AI tools (including programming), social media permanence vs. ephemerality, and more. Sponsored by: Dekáf Coffee Roasters : You won’t believe it’s decaf. That’s the point. 30% off with code: DF. Squarespace : Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Notion : Try the powerful, easy-to-use Notion AI today. WorkOS : The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: “Things Become Other Things”, Craig’s new book from Random House (!): Craig’s web page for the book — including tour dates. Random House’s page for the book . Purchase links: Amazon Bookshop.org Apple Books Barnes & Noble Craig’s home page . The Good Place — Craig’s write-up on designing and building (with Claude Code) his own custom Twitter-like ephemeral social network for members of his (fun, excellent) Special Projects website. Ulysses — Craig’s writing app of choice. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 420: ‘The Best Hatched Plan’, With Glenn Fleishman 2:08:24
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Special guest Glenn Fleishman returns to the show for episode 420 on 4/20, but everyone’s sober, I swear. Topics include Trump’s dumb tariffs and Glenn’s smart new edition of his book Six Centuries of Type & Printing . Sponsored by: Squarespace : Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Notion : Try the powerful, easy-to-use Notion AI today. BetterHelp : Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. Clic for Sonos : No lag. No hassle. Just Clic. Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good . Links: Pre-order “Six Centuries of Type & Printing: New Edition” . My link to Glenn’s Kickstarter page . “.BLUE proposes to create an Internet space in which businesses, organizations and individuals can create an Internet identity tied to the color and the concept of blue.” . XKCD comic on open source dependencies . Pathmark’s “No Frills” Brand . This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 419: ‘Podcasting Technology Cadence’, With MG Siegler 2:28:58
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MG Siegler returns to the show to talk about the drama surrounding Siri and Apple Intelligence. Sponsored by: WorkOS : The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Check out their latest features from Launch Week . BetterHelp : Give online therapy a try at BetterHelp and get on your way to being your best self. OpenCase : MagSafe perfected that's thinner, lighter, and more secure. Save 10% with code TALKSHOW . Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts . Links: Daring Fireball posts: Apple Is Delaying the ‘More Personalized Siri’ Apple Intelligence Features Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Gurman: Tim Cook Has Put Mike Rockwell in Charge of Siri, Reporting to Craig Federighi A Postscript on the Singular Nature of Mark Gurman’s Reporting Posts from MG at Spyglass , which you should subscribe to: Apple Joins the Navy Siri’s Quixotic Swim to Hawaii The Siri Shuffle MG’s March 2011 scoop at TechCrunch, “ Legends of the Fall, Apple Style ”, which correctly called the iPhone 4S moving from an annual June ship date to the fall (where it’s remained ever since), and the first suggestion that “Siri”, a startup Apple had acquired the year before, would be a big part of iOS 5. AI labs that might, maybe, be acquisition targets for Apple: Anthropic (Claude) Perplexity Mistral Safe Superintelligence Inc. (easily the best / most confident website of the bunch) Thinking Machines (their website wishes it were SSI’s) Steve Jobs, taking Q&A at WWDC 1997 : “You’ve got to start with the customer experience and work backwards to the technology. You can’t start with the technology and try to figure out where you’re going to try and sell it.” This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 418: ‘Putting a Stink on the Letter X’, With Craig Hockenberry 2:42:03
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Craig Hockenberry returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s new hardware this week — M3 iPad Airs, A16 regular iPads, M4 MacBook Airs, and the M4 Max and surprising M3 Ultra Mac Studios. And we go deep on The Iconfactory’s years-in-the-making new app, Tapestry — a universal timeline for the Internet. Exclusively sponsored by: Google Gemini : Chat to supercharge your ideas. Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts . Links: Daring Fireball posts of note: “ Apple Updates iPad Air (M2→M3) and Regular iPad (A14→A16), and Revamps Magic Keyboard for iPad Air ”. “ Apple Announces, With Little Surprise, M4 MacBook Airs ”. “ Apple Announces, With Much Surprise, Mac Studios With M4 Max and M3 Ultra (!) Chips ”. From January: “ Openvibe, a Multi-Social-Network App for Bluesky, Mastodon, Threads (Supposedly), and Nostr ”. Tapestry : “Weaving your favorite blogs, social media, and more into a unified and chronological timeline.” Craig, on the Iconfactory blog: “ Enter Tapestry ”. Cheryl Cicha, also on the Iconfactory blog: “ Tapestry: Past, Present, and Future ”. Tapestry Connectors — an open, easy ( documented !) extensions API. Fefes Blog — you’ll have to listen to the show to understand how this is a Tapestry-related link. But trust me, it’s a good story. It starts with this thread on Mastodon , which begins like a great novel: “It’s becoming clear that XML in RSS is the preferred tool of sociopaths.” Molly White: “POSSE” (“Publish [on your] Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere”). Technology Connections on YouTube: “ Algorithms Are Breaking How We Think ”. The Iconfactory : Linea Sketch — “a lightweight digital sketchpad for your iPad”. Wallaroo — fun new wallpapers every week, for iOS and Mac. Tot — we didn’t mention this brilliant little notes app on the show, but I use it every day. iPulse — a nerdy system monitor, with Iconfactory fit and finish. Runs in the background even on iOS. Project Tapestry’s year-ago successful Kickstarter campaign . Andre Torrez’s Tyke , the inspiration for Tot. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 417: ‘Nothing Is Possible’, With Paul Kafasis 2:00:43
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Special guest: Paul Kafasis. Special topics: Siri/Super Bowl nonsense, “Gulf of Mexico/America” nonsense, the iPhone 16e gets announced, and a veritable Bond villain buys the rights to the James Bond movie franchise. Sponsored by: Listen Later : Turn articles into podcasts and listen on the go, with AI-powered narration. Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts . Links: Super Bowl nonsense: Every play featured in the 1977 CBS "NFL Today" opening credits would be a severe penalty for violence in today's NFL. Video on YouTube ; story on Awful Announcing . Apple in 2017, [encouraged people to ask Siri questions about the Super Bowl]( https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/01/hey-siri-whos-going-to-win-the-super-bowl/ ). Paul's post at One Foot Tsunami: " Not So Super, Apple ". My post: " Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber ". "Gulf of Mexico" nonsense: Daring Fireball: " Golfo del Gringo Loco ". Paul, thoughtfully: " Do Not Obey in Advance ". " Thoughts and Observations on Today’s iPhone 16e Announcement ". Rogue Amoeba: " The Developers Who Came in From the Cold ". This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 416: ‘A Professional Internet User’, With Vlad Prelovac 2:32:38
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Kagi founder and CEO Vlad Prelovac joins the show to talk about the business of web search, the thinking behind Kagi’s own amazing search engine, and their upstart WebKit-based browser Orion. Sponsored by: Squarespace : Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful : Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Unofficial but surprisingly good transcripts . Links: Kagi . Kagi Blog . Kagi Search Stats . Kagi Feedback, the Kagi Search issue tracker . Orion — Kagi’s lightweight WebKit-based native browser for Mac and iOS . Vladimir Prelovac’s homepage . Apple’s 1987 “Knowledge Navigator” concept video , which supposedly took place in the “future” of 2011. Wikipedia entry . Daring Fireball, 2011: “ The Type of Companies That Publish Future Concept Videos ”. Wikipedia: “ Essential facilities doctrine ”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 415: ‘A Good Duck Butt’, With Allen Pike 2:32:52
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Special guest Allen Pike joins the show to talk about the state of generative AI and how Apple Intelligence measures up (so far). Also: some speculation on Apple’s pending acquisition of the ever-difficult-to-pronounce Pixelmator. Sponsored by: WorkOS : The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Links: Allen’s blog . Allen’s take on Apple Intelligence, so far: “ It’s Good for Apple, and Okay for You ”. (Includes the Image-Playground–generated derpy-looking images of Allen that we discuss on the show.) Forestwalk Labs — Allen’s new startup . Allen’s podcasts: Fun Facts with Arik Devens, now complete . It Shipped That Way . CGP Grey and Myke Hurley discuss how Apple Intelligence message suggestions feel “anti-human” on Cortex ep. 161 . Cursor — “The AI Code Editor”. Rich Sutton’s 2019 essay “The Bitter Lesson” (“The biggest lesson that can be read from 70 years of AI research is that general methods that leverage computation are ultimately the most effective, and by a large margin.”) AMC’s “Halt and Catch Fire” , which ran four seasons from 2014–2017. Ellen Cushing for The Atlantic: “ Thanksgiving Should Be in October ”. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 414: ‘Annoying Friendliness’, With Joanna Stern 1:54:06
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Joanna Stern returns to the show to talk about our new best friends, AI chatbots, and I chime in with how the Voight-Kampff test got it all wrong. Sponsored by: WorkOS : The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Squarespace : Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful : Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Joanna on YouTube: “ I Spent 24 Hours in the Woods With Talking AI Chatbots ”. Joanna’s excellent interview with Craig Federighi on Apple Intelligence , which is also on YouTube . My commentary linking to it. Ann-Marie Alcántara’s Wall Street Journal piece: “ When Did Apple’s Notes App Become an Extension of Our Brains? ” (also on News+ ) Larry David on Siri . Voight-Kampff Test . There’s a social media thing where people are posting ChatGPT’s illustrations from the prompt “Based on what you know about me, draw a picture of what you think my current life looks like.” Here’s mine : I’m all alone in a nice study with lots of books, a leather couch, and a manual typewriter. Here’s Joanna’s : Boy Scouts, basketball, cameras, computers, and lots of bagels. Here’s an alternate from Joanna . The Gruber and Coudal families, leaving Barack Obama’s election night rally in Grant Park in Chicago in 2008 . This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 413: ‘Holiday Party 2024’, With Merlin Mann 2:52:16
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This again. Jiminy. Well, once more, let's talk around another election, and try, by doing so, to maybe express something about it. Sponsored by: Tiptop : A new way to pay that combines Instant Trade-In and Pay-in-4 at checkout. Squarespace : Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful : Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Previously on The Talk Show, with Merlin: Holiday Party 2016 (the bad one) Holiday Party 2020 (the good one) Yours truly, on this week: “ How It Went ”. Seki Edge nail clippers: Panzarino at The Obsessor: “ The Best Nail Clippers You’ll Ever Use ”. The Talk Show, October 2022: ‘Big Booger Came After You’ , where Merlin first recommended these to me. Get them at Amazon for $16 . Buy two pairs. Kai scissors . Get a few pairs of these too. Merlin’s Wisdom Project . Read this if you haven’t. Read it again if you have. So good. Reconcilable Differences — Merlin’s podcast with John Siracusa. The kids call it “Rec Diffs”. Merlin’s Happy Place — a YouTube playlist, comprised of “Videos I watch pretty often when I need a little pick-me-up.” This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…

1 412: ‘His Most Pro Shirt’, With Dan Moren 1:41:42
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Dan Moren returns to the show to discuss this week’s introductions of the first M4 Macs: iMac, Mac Mini, and MacBook Pros. Sponsored by: WorkOS : The modern identity platform for B2B SaaS — free up to 1 million monthly active users. Squarespace : Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Memberful : Monetize your passion with membership. Start your free trial today. Links: Yours Truly: “ In Defense, I Swear, of the Magic Mouse’s Charging Port Placement ”. “ Sidenote of the Week: All MacBook Air Models Now Start With 16 GB RAM ”. David Schaub’s chart of base RAM in Mac desktops since 1984 . His corresponding chart of base RAM in Mac laptops since 1999 . Dan, in a column for Macworld: “ The Truth Behind Apple’s Most Unpopular Decisions: It’s Not About You ”. M4 iMac: Daring Fireball: “ Apple Introduces M4 iMacs, With Updated Colors, a Nano-Texture Display Option, and USB-C Input Peripherals ”. MacRumors: “ M1 vs. M3 vs. M4 iMac Buyer's Guide ”. M4 Mac Mini, now even mini-er: Daring Fireball: “ Apple Unveils Mac Minis With M4 and M4 Pro Chips ”. Dan Moren: “ The M4 Mac Mini: Tricks and Treats ”. M4 MacBook Pros: Daring Fireball: “ Apple Unveils New M4 MacBook Pro Lineup, Including, Hallelujah, a Nano-Texture Display Option ”. All Souls Lost — Dan’s latest novel, a modern noir mystery. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.…
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