MAHA-Public Health Conversation #6: On Food, On Nutrition, On Government, & On the Shooting at the CDC

Why Should I Trust You?

In this special episode of Why Should I Trust You?, we're taking on the all-important topic of food with members of the Make America Healthy Again movement, along with a panel of seasoned experts in food and nutrition science, including Kevin Hall, the former NIH nutrition scientist. We set out to talk about nutrition, the food industry, and politics--but the conversation quickly took off in directions we never expected. What does the group make of the administration's early "wins" on food dyes? Is there agreement that the carrot-not-regulation approach with the food industry is the way to go? Is MAHA's alliance with MAGA proving successful or limiting? And finally, if all sides worked together, what real solutions could be achieved to help Americans eat healthier? We also ask the groups to reflect on the violent attack on the CDC last week.

Hosts:

Brinda Adhikari

Tom Johnson

Maggie Bartlett

Dr. Mark Abdelmalek

Guests:

Elizabeth Frost: head of MAHA grassroots in Ohio, former OH state director for the Kennedy campaign, co-founder, Independent Force Consulting

Jacqueline Capriotti: MAHA Mom, Patient Advocate, Substack: Health Revolution USA, Chronic Disease Outreach for the Kennedy Campaign

Erin Martin: founder and director of FreshRX Oklahoma, and a clinical gerontologist; advocate for regenerative farming

John Klar: lawyer, farmer, writer The MAHA Report, advocate for regenerative farming

Aaron Everitt: Writer and video essayist at Substack: Besides The Revolution, frequently contributes to House InHabit a major MAHA influencer Jessica Reed Kraus' newsletter; Kennedy campaign volunteer

Kevin Hall: who until this spring was at the NIH as a nutrition scientist, focusing a lot of his research on ultra processed foods and the causes of obesity, book coming out Food Intelligence, The Science of How Food Both Nourishes Us and Harms Us: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/671334/food-intelligence-by-julia-belluz-and-kevin-hall-phd/

Tashara Leak: Registered Dietitian, Associate Professor in the Division of Nutritional Sciences, and Associate Dean in Human Ecology at Cornell University.

Susan Mayne: former director of Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition at the FDA; currently a professor at Yale School of Public Health

Dr. Mati Hlatshwayo Davis: an infectious disease specialist who until very recently was the head of the Dept of Health for the city of St Louis

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Chapters

1. MAHA-Public Health Conversation #6: On Food, On Nutrition, On Government, & On the Shooting at the CDC (00:00:00)

2. Intro and Headlines: MAHA and Public Health on Food and Nutrition (00:00:16)

3. Who Joined Us? (00:05:28)

4. The Conversation Begins (00:07:37)

5. The CDC Shooting (00:07:43)

6. Jacqueline Capriotti (00:08:18)

7. Dr. Mati Hlatshwayo Davis (00:09:01)

8. Elizabeth Frost (00:11:48)

9. Aaron Everitt (00:13:27)

10. Susan Mayne (00:15:06)

11. Erin Martin (00:15:42)

12. Prompt: MAHA is Historic For Health and Nutrition (00:17:54)

13. Jacqueline Capriotti (00:17:58)

14. Susan Mayne (00:18:33)

15. Kevin Hall (00:20:44)

16. Erin Martin (00:23:23)

17. Tom: is carrot instead of stick approach working? (00:28:40)

18. Aaron Everitt (00:29:16)

19. Susan Mayne On Role of Industry (00:33:40)

20. Dr. Mati On MAHA and History (00:39:04)

21. Aaron Everitt (00:43:44)

22. Dr. Mark: What Matters for Improving Health? (00:45:32)

23. Tashara Leak, on Words being Banned (00:45:54)

24. Erin Martin (00:47:33)

25. Dr. Mati Hlatshwayo Davis (00:51:27)

26. Kevin Hall, on minor vs major wins (00:54:46)

27. Elizabeth Frost (00:58:03)

28. Tashara Leak, on awareness vs action (01:02:55)

29. John Klar enters the chat (01:04:43)

30. Tom: Can the Presidency Be the Only Office Through Which RFK Jr Can Make Change? (01:09:20)

31. Aaron Everitt (01:13:04)

32. Dr. Mati on Kennedy (01:15:47)

33. Brinda On MAHA vs MAGA Fissure (01:19:09)

34. Elizabeth Frost Responds (01:20:22)

35. Erin Martin (01:22:30)

36. Dr. Mark: Phrase to Describe the Future (01:25:21)

37. Susan Mayne (01:25:58)

38. Kevin Hall (01:26:34)

39. Jacqueline Capriotti (01:29:16)

40. Elizabeth Frost (01:33:56)

41. Erin Martin (01:34:39)

42. Brinda: What Do You Want MAHA to Take On? (01:35:11)

43. Dr. Mati Hlatshwayo Davis: Don't Dismantle the Systems (01:35:56)

44. Susan Mayne on UPFs (01:39:10)

45. Tashara Leak: It's Hard For Me to Dream Right Now (01:39:57)

46. Kevin Hall: Mistrust Now FROM Public Health (01:40:49)

47. John Klar (01:42:28)

48. Elizabeth Frost on USDA (01:47:46)

49. Kevin Hall (01:49:25)

50. Jacqueline Capriotti on Personal Responsibility (01:51:40)

51. Aaron Everitt (01:54:50)

52. Closing Thoughts (01:56:45)

53. Thank you for listening! (01:57:45)