Special: MAHA Georgia & Public Health In a Spirited Discussion On the Legacy of the Covid Vaccine

Why Should I Trust You?

On today's special episode, a raw and unflinching conversation between MAHA advocates from Georgia and a group of veterans from public health.

The discussion dives straight into one of the biggest drivers of mistrust in public health today: the COVID vaccine. Is it a life-saving marvel of modern science or a dangerous technology imposed on the public with little regard for liberty and safety?

The groups share profound concerns about where we’ve been and where we’re headed when it comes to Americans' trust in public health, medicine, and science. Many of them differ fundamentally on the promise of the vaccine versus what it delivered, on how the healthcare system delivered and failed at the same time, and on how that trust lost can be earned back.

Yet the discussion is grounded in respect, empathy, and a shared goal of healthier communities, which might just be the key to pulling us out of our spiral of mistrust.

Hosts:

Brinda Adhikari

Tom Johnson

Guests:

Joining the discussion from MAHA Georgia are Joey Fargar, Aaron Rossi, Christy Kennedy, Melinda Hicks, and from Ohio, Elizabeth Frost.

From public health, Paul Offit, Reed Tuckson, Anne Zink, and Ashwin Vasan.

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Chapters

1. Special: MAHA Georgia & Public Health In a Spirited Discussion On the Legacy of the Covid Vaccine (00:00:00)

2. Intro: Special Episode: MAHA and Public Health (00:00:15)

3. Beginning of Conversation: In 30 Years, How Should the Covid Vaccine Be Remembered? (00:05:33)

4. Aaron Rossi, MAHA (00:05:44)

5. Elizabeth Frost, MAHA (00:06:26)

6. Paul Offit, Public Health (00:07:23)

7. Anne Zink, Public Health (00:09:07)

8. Melinda Hicks, MAHA (00:10:47)

9. Christy Kennedy, MAHA (00:14:02)

10. Ashwin Vasan, Public Health (00:16:43)

11. Reed Tuckson, Public Health (00:21:20)

12. Joey Fargar, MAHA (00:23:00)

13. Melinda: Why Did The CDC Change the Definition of a Vaccine on the Site? (00:26:50)

14. Paul: What it Was Like to Work in a Hospital During Covid (00:30:34)

15. Elizabeth: Treatments During Covid (00:37:34)

16. Aaron: What Could Have Been Done Differently? (00:40:07)

17. Anne: What I Saw and the Challenges in Communicating (00:45:02)

18. Ashwin: Dialogue with Communities (00:52:07)

19. Melinda: Covid Vaccinated and Injured (00:53:51)

20. Ashwin: Let's Imagine Public Health Took the Blame for Everything. Then What? (00:57:14)

21. Paul: DPT and Whooping Cough vaccine and Covid vaccine (01:00:56)

22. Anne: Risks and Benefits (01:04:40)

23. Aaron and Paul: Vaccines and Corporate Capture (01:10:51)

24. Melinda and Paul on Vaccine Injured (01:13:38)

25. Ashwin: Financial Conflicts of Interest (01:15:54)

26. Closing and thank you! (01:19:26)