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The Rethink Marketing Podcast

Colin Jeffries & Paul Frodge

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Are you drowning in the sheer volume of contradicting marketing and sales speak? Do you find yourself perplexed and overwhelmed by recommendations from "marketing & sales gurus" ? How can the thought processes of marketing and sales be based on the one size fits all mentality? They can't be! Rethinking conventional wisdom is always good practice but rethinking conventional marketing and sales wisdom is necessity. If you aren’t sure how to ignore the bad and test the good, then welcome to the ...
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Colin Jeffries⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Paul Frodge dialog about the evolving landscape of online search, focusing on the competition between the traditional powerhouse of search, Google, and emerging AI-driven search platforms. There are ramifications for users, marketers, and businesses, so we examine trends i…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, ⁠⁠Colin Jeffries⁠⁠ and Paul Frodge unpack some of the most pressing challenges that business leaders and marketers face in uncertain times. How do we better align marketing and sales when the economy is uncertain and performance is under a microscope? Is the trend towards consolidation in revenue op…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, ⁠Colin Jeffries⁠ and Paul Frodge wax poetic on how they see tariffs and trade deals impacting marketing strategies. Should brands tout 'Made in America' messaging, or should they avoid taking a stand on where and how they bring their wares to market? From inventory management to customer preferences…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge breakdown their take on the 2025 cohort of Super Bowl commercials. Who came away stronger, and who may have wasted the nearly $8 million investment? From candy to cars and SAAS to soda, which brands arose victorious? The Rethink Marketing Podcast is available on all ma…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Paul Frodge and Colin Jeffries break down three of Gartner's predictions for and from Chief Marketing Officers for the upcoming year! Some of the predictions stretch into 2027 and 2028, so Colin and Paul do their best to stare into the crystal ball well beyond the traditional 12 months! he conversat…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Paul Frodge and Colin Jeffries break down three of Gartner's predictions for and from Chief Marketing Officers for the upcoming year! Some of the predictions stretch into 2027 and 2028, so Colin and Paul do their best to stare into the crystal ball well beyond the traditional 12 months! What does th…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Paul Frodge interviews Shama Hyder, founder and CEO of Zen Media. Social media, marketing, content, and more are evolving in front of our eyes! How do marketing leaders keep up and lean into the future? Shama shares her views on the evolution of social media, and the current landscape of AI in marke…
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On this first "Paul & Colin" episode of our sixth season of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge revisit their marketing predictions made in January of 2024. What was accurate and where did they miss? The rise of AI in marketing is undeniable, but the predicted mass exodus of social media has yet to occur. How should Market…
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On this first episode of Season 6 of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries is joined by goal strategist and author Deb Eckerling, to talk about the importance of goal setting and her unique DEB Method. They discuss how to discover personal goals, the process of journaling and visualization, and share success stories. The conversation also c…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge discuss the evolving landscape of digital marketing, emphasizing the importance of understanding business impact beyond "marketing metrics." They explore the shift from traditional marketing methods to digital strategies, the changing dynamics within marketing agencies…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge share they experience with advertising during and after election season. Marketers face many challenges during political season: inflationary media prices, distracted or tuned out audiences, and, of course, content that isn't "brand safe." How should businesses think a…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries flies solo with guest Dr. Maulik Purohit. Dr. Purohit talks about his key learnings from leading digital transformation in healthcare, emphasizing the importance of culture, employee well-being, and the need for imagination in leadership. They explore the challenges faced by health sy…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the evolution of the Four Ps of marketing—Product, Price, Place, and Promotion—originally established in the 1960s well before the digital age. Isn't it high time we adapt these principles to modern marketing challenges? In this fourth and final episode of a fo…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the evolution of the Four Ps of marketing—Product, Price, Place, and Promotion—originally established before the digital age. Isn't it high time we adapt these principles to modern marketing challenges? In this third episode of a four part series, we move to th…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the evolution of the Four Ps of marketing—Product, Price, Place, and Promotion—originally established before the digital age. Isn't it high time we adapt these principles to modern marketing challenges? In this second episode of a four part series, we move to t…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the evolution of the Four Ps of marketing—Product, Price, Place, and Promotion—originally established before the digital age. Isn't it high time we adapt these principles to modern marketing challenges? In this first episode of a four part series, we kick off t…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the evolution from product-market fit to promise-market fit. We must understand our customers' specific pain points and how a strong brand promise can differentiate businesses in a competitive market. If product-market fit was easy for service businesses to shr…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge take a deeper dive into autonomy bias. It starts with a foundation of transparency and progresses into productization to provide customers with a clear menu of services. Successful marketers understand and play into humanity's default of craving control. We want to fin…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge are joined by Nancy Harhut, a leading expert in applying behavioral science to marketing. She shares how marketers can leverage insights from behavioral science to improve their strategies, focusing on concepts like the magnetic middle, autonomy bias, and the importanc…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge discuss the dangers of projecting personal preferences onto larger groups and the impact it can have on marketing strategies--and performance. How do we recognize actual buyer trends and avoid getting stuck in the echo chamber? As marketers, we need to stay close to cu…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge recognize that marketing teams often struggle with differentiating themselves from competitors and catching up to the status quo. This conversation explores the challenges of innovation and go-to-market strategy in marketing. It's important to identify what truly sets …
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge challenge the acronym "Customer Relationship Manager." Does a CRM actually manage relationships? At this point in history, a single genuine relationship is dramatically less valuable than hundreds of pseudo-relationships. Balancing one-to-one and one-to-many interactio…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the advantages and disadvantages of niching. There are applications for individuals and businesses as we seek to balance deep expertise and a wide offering. Niche expertise can be valuable in industries that require specific knowledge, such as healthcare or fin…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge recap the viral moments and media highlights of the Paris Olympics. We saw speed-to-social come in clutch for many brands as the power of storytelling was on full display. In a world where audiences are segmented and divided every which way, having a few weeks of solid…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the expanding responsibilities of marketers and where leaders should draw a line in the sand. Depending on the structure and lifecycle stage of the organization in question, there are countless challenges and consequences to navigate as the marketing department…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge chat about the allure of cutting budget. Is it a surefire way to win kudos from the executive and finance teams, or can it backfire? How should we be thinking about cutting spend and allocating budgets? As marketing leaders, we must balance cutting costs with maintaini…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge converse about the prevalence of posting about holidays and observances on social media. Does anyone follow Nike to find out when Arbor Day is? They explore the need for unique opinions and engaging content, rather than just posting facts. They also highlight brands th…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge sit down with a man who has worn the top hats at a variety of marketing agencies. Ian Baer shares his insights on finding the right balance between data and emotional relatability. He recounts the evolution of the advertising industry and the role of data and technolog…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge chat about the importance of encouraging opposing opinions and diverse perspectives as marketing leaders. They highlight how being in an echo chamber can limit growth and innovation, and how seeking out different viewpoints often leads to better ideas and opportunities…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge converse about the delicate balance of offboarding customers who are good but not ideal. Rather than grandfathering in customers or simply losing money on servicing legacy accounts, sometimes the best option is to let them find another provider. Each business's target …
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge chat about the importance of embracing failure and learning from mistakes in marketing and business. They challenge the conventional wisdom of always striving for efficiency and optimization, and instead explore the many benefits of intentionally taking risks and exper…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge are joined by SEO expert Brianca Hadnot to chat through the massive changeup in how people are searching. Hint: they are increasingly starting with video! How should SEOs be thinking about showing up on TikTok and YouTube rather than simply looking at appearing on Goog…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge invite Brianca Hadnot into the conversation to expand our knowledge of image searches and related optimization. Backlink strategies are evolving and quality continues to be more important than quantity. They debunk outdated tactics such as press releases, blog comments…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge invite Brianca Hadnot into the conversation to expand out knowledge of image searches and related optimization. This episode focuses on Google's evolving visual search and the opportunities it presents for savvy digital marketers. The conversation highlights the import…
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On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge invite Brianca Hadnot into the conversation to share her insights on the evolving landscape of technical SEO (on-page SEO). From summaries to how results are curated, is there anything artificial intelligence isn't touching? Are the tried and true principles of SEO bei…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge are joined by Peggy Klaus, author of the books BRAG! and The Hard Truth About Soft Skills. Peggy differentiates between "bad bragging" and "good bragging," as she shares how to effectively convey accomplishments and successes. She introduces the concepts of planning o…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge speak to branding as a perpetual activity that involves managing perceptions and experiences at every touchpoint. It is can be impacted by everyone inside and anyone outside the company. Branding starts with managing people, including customers, employees, and vendors…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge are joined by Dennis Devlin and Jeff Jones, authors of Three Wise Monkeys. The guests speak to how understanding customer behavior is crucial for developing effective marketing strategies. This is founded in empathy and actively listening. This relentless pursuit of c…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge chat about heightened levels of unpredictability for marketers during a presidential election season. The landscape can be navigated, but it's not easy! Sometimes the best thing we can do as brands is to embrace unpredictability and be unpredictable ourselves! If we s…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the question of whether entry-level marketers should start their careers on the brand side or agency side. There are pros and cons to each track, but which has the most upside? Agency opportunities likely mean working with a variety of brands and industries, w…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge sit down with author, speaker, change agent, and former mayor of Augusta, Deke Copenhaver. The conversation covers motivating and inspiring teams, leading movements, and creating lasting change. Deke shares his perspective on overcoming esophageal cancer and how it ha…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge discuss the advantages and disadvantages of personalization and segmentation. Artificial intelligence and machine learning are making personalization easier, but is that the best move for your business? Does it make sense to fill the sales funnel through segmentation …
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the concept of catalytic marketing, which focuses on doing less with less to instill lasting change in target audiences. The conversation delves into the three C's of catalytic marketing: clarity of objectives, connections with the team and audience, and coura…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge discuss the ongoing challenge of balancing quality and quantity of content. The conversation explores the impact of generative AI on content creation, audience interaction, and the importance of relying on human experts for high-quality content. It also delves into fa…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge discuss the tension between exclusivity and accessibility. Are we better off growing our customer base or simply seeking higher margins from a small niche? Should exclusive brands care about market share? They explore the concept of exclusivity and how it can be achie…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge opine on finding the right balance between testing and optimization in marketing and advertising. They explore whether there is a point where testing becomes excessive and whether or not perfection is actually attainable. How important is intentionality in testing? Ho…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge chat about the increasing pressure from platforms like Google and Meta to identify content made using gen-AI. The delineate between content made with AI and that made by AI, and discuss whether or not marketers should be help accountable for transparency when AI is us…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge converse about the social multiplier effect in marketing. As marketers get better and share their learnings, it seems that marketing continues to improve. Competition is increasing, forcing marketers to get better--and, thereby, increase the competition! It can be a c…
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One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries is joined by Dr. Carolyn Goerner, a negotiation, power, and imposter syndrome expert, as well as a clinical professor of management at the Kelley School of Business. She shares insights on power, vulnerability, empathy, negotiation, and influence. From understanding the underlying mo…
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