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Hannah Shaffer and Evan Rowland

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Come along with Hannah and Evan in a living documentation of the game design process, from the first spark of an idea, to every disastrous surprise. It’s not an instruction manual, but a travel guide, with lots of unexpected stops along the way.
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Each week, Television Producers Chris DeRosa and Dominick Pupa decide which of their plethora of celebrity clients needs the most help, and hold nothing back as they take turns pitching ideas of how to best fix the famous person’s crumbling public image. With a slew of hilarious guests and hotter-than-hot takes on the stories dominating the Entertainment News cycle, Chris and Dominick are here to transform the reputations of the stars that are clearly NOT just like us!
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In the latest episode of The Top Step, Ryan Rowland-Smith reacts to Logan Evans’ MLB debut, reflecting on how rare and meaningful it is to even reach the big leagues. Then, Ryan sits down with Boston Red Sox reliever Liam Hendriks, who opens up about his inspiring journey back to the mound after beating cancer and then undergoing Tommy John surgery…
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This week's Pre-Fixe is SUPERSIZED and has everything: Patti Lupone has apologized to Broadway, Audra McDonald has served GOD-TIER LEVEL SHADE, JoJo Siwa has finally admitted she's dating that man, and Hugh Jackman trades one beard for another! Then, Co-Host of The List Maria Randazzo joins to attempt to fix Lin-Manuel Miranda. They discuss his ear…
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After you’ve made the rules, you need to decide how you’re going to tell them. The right rule in the wrong order can make all the difference! In this unscripted episode, we share our initial thoughts about how we want our next rulebook to start, how to include immersive writing without sacrificing clarity, and (for some reason) reminisce about spoo…
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Chris and Dominick are at odds over Britney’s recent private flight, but are completely in agreement about The Cowboy Carter Tour on this week’s Pre-Fixe. Then, Eleni Sabracos and Will Oser of Betches Media's new podcast Blabbermouths join to fix Hilary Duff. They discuss The Disney Channel, The Lizzy MacGuire Movie, her being the OG Gay Ally, and …
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Chris and Dom are beside themselves over Kris Jenner's new face, the fact that Elizabeth Moss is visibly 9 months pregnant on The Handmaid's Tale, and the restrictions and rudeness at the Cannes Film Festival. Then, OG Romance novel Blogger and Podcaster Sarah Wendell joins to fix Rosie O'Donnell. They discuss her early career, A League of Their Ow…
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Story endings are hard! The epilogue of a game not only has to logically wrap up the story and tie up any loose ends—it’s also the moment to reflect on how your character has grown over many sessions, and a moment for you as the player to feel like the time spent playing was worthwhile. In this episode, we talk about what makes roleplaying game epi…
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Ryan Rowland-Smith sits down with fellow Aussie and MLB All-Star Liam Hendriks. Liam opens up about the incredible challenges he's faced throughout his baseball journey — from early career setbacks and injuries to a cancer diagnosis in December 2022. #LiamHendriks #MLB #BaseballPodcast #CancerSurvivor #TommyJohn #RedSox #TheTopStep #RyanRowlandSmit…
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Dominick debuts a beard, Hilaria debuts a memoir, and Kim debuts an acting role in the Pre-Fixe, and Chris is fired up about all three! Then, Margaret from Smash Hit joins to fix Katharine McPhee. They discuss American Idol, her re-debut in SMASH, her attempts at other roles, and her world (more like regional) tour with husband David Foster. You ca…
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In this full-length interview, Ryan Rowland-Smith sits down with Seattle Mariners starting pitcher Emerson Hancock to dive into his 2024 season journey. Emerson opens up about his development, the adjustments he's made on the mound, and how he’s navigated the uncertainty surrounding his role within the Mariners organization. Get an inside look at o…
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Join host Ryan Rowland-Smith on Episode 31 of The Top Step as he breaks down why the Seattle Mariners' starting rotation has been one of the best in baseball over the past three seasons. Ryan then sits down with Mariners starting pitcher Emerson Hancock to talk about his 2024 season, how he’s developed his game, and how he’s handled the ups and dow…
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In this episode, Ryan Rowland-Smith sits down with Texas Rangers relief pitcher Chris Martin for a wide-ranging conversation. Chris shares his experience being featured in the new Netflix documentary "The Clubhouse," which spotlights his time with the Boston Red Sox. He also dives into his incredible journey to professional baseball — from unexpect…
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On the latest episode, Ryan dives into whether the Seattle Mariners can maintain their pace toward 95 wins this season. Then, he's joined by Mariners legend Mike Cameron for a wide-ranging and entertaining conversation. They discuss:✅ Mike’s role in developing young talent—including his son✅ His viral interactions on X ✅ The best outfield plays of …
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Host Ryan Rowland-Smith kicks off Episode 30 of The Top Step by breaking down Anthony Muñoz’s impact on the Seattle Mariners bullpen and how his development has strengthened the team in 2024.Ryan then sits down with current Texas Rangers reliever Chris Martin to discuss his time with the Boston Red Sox during the filming of Netflix’s new documentar…
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This week's Pre-Fixe is STACKED: Rihanna's pregnant, Blue Ivy is a full-fledged adult, and Hilaria has released her memoir. Then, Charlotte Rose Coleman, Stylist To The Stars and Fixing Famous People's Official Mess Gala Correspondent returns to discuss the hits, misses, and all the Superfine: Tailoring Black Style in between! You can find Charlott…
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This week, we talk about the unpredictable mechanical swings that can happen between different versions of a game. Small tweaks to mechanics can trigger a cascade of unintended effects, causing the game design pendulum to swing from too many choices to too few and back again. We talk through examples of how we've managed these swings in Escape from…
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Santos is sentenced, Perry is "performing," Stefani is in a threeway with The Lord, and Winfrey is covered in blood in this week's Pre-Fixe, and Dom and Chris CANNOT stop talking about the aftermath of Muppets in Space! Then, Host of Pink Shade Mary-Payne Gilbert joins to fix Rachel Zoe. They talk about her Perez-Era rumors, The Rachel Zoe Project,…
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Dom and Chris are rocked by not only the death of the Pope but also the birth of a relationship between Elizabeth Hurley and Billy Ray Cyrus in The Pre-Fixe, and talk about Gayle King's audacity to try and defend going to Space with Lauren Sanchez and Wendy's Hamburgers' number one enemy Katy Perry. Then, To All The Men I've Tolerated Before host a…
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We’re introducing a new dynamic to our latest roleplaying game! You all came to this amusement park as friends, but one of you started serving the park’s demonic forces. And things are about to get mean. How can characters become enemies while players remain friends? When the rules ask you to clash with you peers, care and consideration needs to be…
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Dom and Chris spend a good amount of time unpacking the "low point in human history" that is Muppets In Space in this week's Pre-Fixe. Chris wonders why Katy Perry didn't sing her hit song E.T. while the penis-head shaped capsule was descending back to Earth, and Dominick wonders why the Kardashians were there looking like Michael Jackson's ghosts?…
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Mariners pitching coach Pete Woodworth is in charge of the best rotation in Major League Baseball! Ryan Rowland-Smith and Pete Woodworth take a deep dive into the prep, mound visits, and what each starter needs to be successful! #mlb #mariners #SeattleMariners #mlbstats #pitching #baseball #baseballpodcastSubscribe now and get amongst it, mates! 🎥🔔…
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Host Ryan Rowland-Smith opens this edition of The Top Step with the "Eyes on the Mariners" segment, focusing on how Julio Rodríguez has been performing at the plate thus far this season compared to the end of 2024. Next, he has a sit-down discussion with M's pitching coach Pete Woodworth on the tremendous success of his rotation and what's he's lea…
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Dom and Chris open the Pre-Fixe with their thoughts on the finale of The White Lotus (SPOILERS!), and then discuss Meghan's jam being "Sold Out" immediately, JoJo Siwa going on Big Brother UK, and being a week away from Katy, Gayle, and Lauren starring in their version of Muppets in Space. Then host of Little Miss Recap Amye Archer joins to fix Hay…
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Hannah had to get a full time office job. Since then, finding the time and energy for creative work has been an uphill battle. In this episode, Hannah sits down with close friend and fellow game designer Joshua A.C. Newman to talk about life, art, and staying true to your values in trying times. Support Joshua’s work! https://www.patreon.com/joshua…
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In this edition of The Top Step, Ryan Rowland-Smith talks first with Alex Mayer of the Seattle Mariners communications team for the "Eyes on the M's" segment. Then he chats with three key members of the Mariners bullpen: Gabe Speier, Trent Thornton, and Tayler Saucedo. Ryan tests the knowledge of their fellow relievers to see how well they know the…
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In our first of many spcial Featuring Famous People episodes, Dominick and Chris talk with LIVING LEGEND Bruce Vilanch about The Star Wars Holiday Special, writing for The Oscars, what producing TV was like back in the day, and how Dominick and Chris were probably both turned gay by different versions of Hollywood Squares. You can find Bruce's podc…
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Welcome to Season 2 of The Top Step! Ryan's guests are Seattle Mariners Opening Day starter Logan Gilbert and his play-by-play partner, Aaron Goldsmith. We get you ready for the Mariners regular season, make some bold predictions, teach Logan Gilbert how to speak Australian, and more!#mariners #mlb #openingday #baseball Subscribe now and get amongs…
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Welcome to Season 2 of The Top Step! Ryan's guests are Sand, and his play-b who makesAaron Goldsmith,y-play partner, some bold predictions! #mariners #mlb #openingday #baseball Subscribe now and get amongst it, mates! 🎥🔔Join the conversation!Twitter: https://twitter.com/thetopsteptvInstagram: https://instagram.com/thetopsteptv#mlb #mariners #Seattl…
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Dominick and Chris discuss the four Beatles movies that are being filmed during the Pre-Fixe, and Dominick fills Chris in on the rumored Traitors Season 4 casting. Then, Erik Arntzen joins to talk about Lil Mama of "Lipgloss" fame. They discuss her incredible aforementioned hit, hosting America's Best Dance Crew, and her star turn as Lisa "Left Eye…
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Welcome to Season 2 of The Top Step! Ryan's guests are Seattle Mariners Opening Day starter Logan Gilbert and his play-by-play partner, Aaron Goldsmith. We get you ready for the Mariners regular season, make some bold predictions, teach Logan Gilbert how to speak Australian, and more!#mariners #mlb #openingday #baseball 0:48 - Eyes on the Mariners …
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Dominick has an apology for the clistenership this week in the Pre-Fixe, and no, it's not for making fun of Don Lemon last week. It's Bad Bunny's Calvin Klein ad campaign, and everyone, including SHAWN MENDES himself is trying to slip into BB's DMs. Then, Hosts of Page Six's Virtual Reali-Tea and the BRAND NEW Page Six Radio on Sirius XM Danny Murp…
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Hannah and Evan discuss Wonderland's first four-player playtest. When a playtest goes wrong, it can be tricky to diagnose the cause. How much is due to the rules, and what's connected to the more subtle influence of mood and flow? Links: Turtlebun Discord: https://discord.gg/XD4WVDjvbz Patreon: patreon.com/turtlebun Website: turtlebun.com Credits: …
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Chris and Dom have a live dev meeting about future clients on this week's Pre-Fixe, and Dominick brings a Don Lemon story to the pod that sends them both into the stratosphere like never before. Then, Donny & Chelsea from I Am The Cute One podcast join to fix Reneé Rapp. They discuss her early career, The Mean Girls Musical, The Mean Girls Musical …
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Dom and Chris are screaming FREE WENDY on this week's Pre-Fixe, but not before Dominick relays some great advice about aging from Dame Joan Collins via Sharon Stone. Then, host of Hot Takes and Deep Dives and Finding Fire Island Jess Rothschild returns to fix Elizabeth Berkley. They discuss Saved By The Bell, Showgirls, it's career-ending backlash,…
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Slow and steady wins the race... but does it work in a one-session RPG? From what we've seen in Escape from Wonderland, not quite. In this episode, we discuss pacing in roleplaying games: from the moment players arrive at the table to leaving everyone feeling satisfied with the story's twists and turns. We dig into the challenge of building uncanny…
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It's FINALLY here: The Duchess of Smuckers' lifestyle show With Love, Meghan, and Dom and Chris CANNOT stop talking about it in this week's Pre-Fixe. After a JAM-packed (wink) round-up of pop culture, Awards Correspondent Rebecca Bregman joins to give a full Oscar rundown. They talk fashions, winners, losers, speeches, favorite moments, and cringe-…
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You've asked for it, you've begged for it, you've PRAYED for it: The Pre-Fixe is full of Dom and Chris' reactions to one of our first fixes come to life in The Baldwins on The Learning Channel. Then, our Pod Mother Kate Casey joins to fix Jessica Biel. They discuss 7th Heaven, marrying Justin Timberlake (aka Bimberlake), and her going viral for eat…
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Sometimes a secret is worth more than gold. But how do you make concrete rules for something intangible? Hannah and Evan talk about the secrets of Wonderland and what to do when the rules are out of step with the story. Links/Credits: Patreon: patreon.com/turtlebun Website: turtlebun.com Design Doc intro/outro theme by ipaghost: https://www.ipaghos…
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Chris is chomping (not champing) at the bit to hear all about Dominick nestled betwixt A-list celebs at the SNL50 Radio City Music Hall Concert in the Pre-Fixe this week, and Dominick gives a moment-by-moment recounting of his interaction with The Baldwinitos themselves. Then, Sequoia Holmes of Black People Love Paramore and The Daily Dirty joins t…
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The Pre-Fixe somehow turns into a sci-fi critique podcast as Dominick and Christopher discuss The Fantastic Four trailer and Chris' potential Lord of The Rings tattoo, after talking Super Bowl and the latest with Emilia Perez's Oscars campaign going up in smoke. Then ACTUAL PUBLICIST and Podcast Host Amir Yass joins to fix Ashlee Simpson. They disc…
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Even when things are going wrong for your characters, you as a player might feel rewarded by narrative twists and turns. In this episode, Hannah and Evan discuss the ways that games can reward both players and characters, and do some live game design about claw machine prizes... Links/Credits: Patreon: patreon.com/turtlebun Website: turtlebun.com D…
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The Grammys are all Dom and Chris seem to be able to talk about this week, but they also take time to discuss Wendy Williams' TMZ interview, Jessica Biel's "devolving" social media post for JT's birthday, and their concerns for Justin Bieber. Then, Awards Correspondent Rebecca Bregman joins to break down The 2025 Grammys: the fashions, the performa…
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A Pop Culture Pentagram dominates the Pre-Fixe, including The Baldwins TLC reality show trailer, The White Lotus Season 3 trailer, the first look at a Natalia Grace scripted series starring Ellen Pompeo, Lady Gaga's announcement of her upcoming album Mayhem, and Jennifer Lopez's Kiss of the Spider Woman premiering at Sundance. Then, host of The Dum…
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When people decide what art is worth looking at, they look for the very best. In a world that demands creative endeavors be perfect, how do we find the confidence to make and share our own art? Episode mentions: Olga Smirnova / Dutch National Ballet: https://www.operaballet.nl/en/dancers/olga-smirnova Toki Pona: https://tokipona.org/ A Mathematicia…
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The polarization of the clistenership regarding Dominick's eating on-mic opens this week's Pre-Fixe, while Heidi's decade-old song climbs the charts, Drake sues Kendrick's record label, and Chrissy Teigen wants a Tik Tok curfew. Then Sara and Natalie from Causing A Scene join to discuss Jennifer Garner. They discuss Alias, 13 Going on 30, her marri…
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It's Our 100th Episode!!! Dom and Chris are on a roll in the Pre-Fixe, From JLo & "KCo" talking every day to the David Muir clamp scandal to Natalia Grace going from one grifter family to another. Then, Royal Correspondent Kristen Meinzer and Dame Erin Bagwell join to revisit and re-fix the Duchess of Smuckers herself, Miss Meghan Louise Markle. Th…
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Is playtesting more of a science, or more art? How prepared should you be for a playtest if you're testing rules that might change on the fly, never to be seen again? In this episode we talk about playtesting our newest game, Escape from Wonderland, and how that went! Links/Credits: Patreon: patreon.com/turtlebun Website: turtlebun.com Design Doc i…
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Demi Moore's Speech, Jeremy Strong's Outfit, Nikki Glaser's monologue, and TONS of Rage-Bait Camerawork and technical mishaps: It's the First Annual Golden Globes Eleganza! Awards Correspondent Rebecca Bregman joins to talk fashion hits and misses, production choices, speeches, and the song of the year (which happens to be about transitioning genit…
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Happy New Queer, Clisteners! The Pre-Fixe is teeming with stories and scandals: JLO & Kevin Costner?! Justin Baldoni's Countersuit?! Tina Knowles coming for Beyoncè's critics?! In better news, Britney is reunited with one of her sons and we couldn't be happier. Then we have some predictions of things we foresee happening in 2025, mainly that Court …
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Our newest game, Escape from Wonderland, began as a hack of Questlandia. But what happens when the mechanics of an old game don't work with the story you want to tell? In this episode we talk about hacking games to do what we want them to do. Links: Support Design Doc on Patreon: patreon.com/turtlebun Find our games at: turtlebun.com Credits: Desig…
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Oh, you didn't think you'd be getting an episode this Wednesday because it's CLITMAS DAY? THINK AGAIN! CHRIS AND DOMINICK TAKE ZERO BREAKS BECAUSE THEY LOVE YOU ALL SO MUCH! Come celebrate the birth of Jesus Franchesca Christ by walking down memory lane with Dom and Chris by looking back on all the celebs they tried (and mostly failed) to fix in 20…
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