Best Josh Bersin Podcasts (2025)

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AI Transformation Is Real: Conversation w/ Jacqui Canney from ServiceNow 21:31

24h ago21:31

21:31

This week I have an update on the “real world” of AI transformation, based on some important conversations I’ve had (and these folks will join the podcast soon.) First, I talked with the Department of Labor and also reviewed new research from Goldman Sachs and we do find that “AI is not wiping out jobs.” As you’ll hear, there is a slowdown in hirin…

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No More Boring Courses - Josh Bersin on the AI Learning Revolution 31:26

1d ago31:26

31:26

In this conversation, Josh Bersin discusses the transformative impact of AI on learning and development (L&D) within organizations. He emphasizes the shift from traditional static courses to dynamic, personalized learning experiences facilitated by AI technologies. The discussion highlights the advantages for small businesses in leveraging AI tools…

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How is AI reshaping HR and Learning and Development? | Josh Bersin on Galileo 27:53

8d ago27:53

27:53

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark dives into the AI revolution in corporate learning with special guest Josh Bersin. Together, they explore the transformative potential of AI-powered tools like the Galileo HR Agent, which are reshaping talent development, HR systems, and learning and development (L&D). Discover how dynami…

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Catching Up! | Models for Scaling Innovation and What AI Knows About Human Flourishing 41:20

16h ago41:20

41:20

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore the intersection of education innovation, policy updates, and emerging technologies. From the role of AI in fostering human flourishing to the potential of CTE centers and ISDs as innovation hubs, they dive into transformative ideas reshaping education. The discus…

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Introducing Galileo™ for Managers, A Leadership Guru At Your Fingertips 5:40

3d ago5:40

5:40

This week we introduce Galileo for Managers, an exciting new part of the Galileo Platform – designed to help business professionals with day-to-day management. As you’ll hear in this podcast, Galileo for Managers brings together the best of AI with 25+ years of research into management, leadership, business, and HR. As I discuss in today’s announce…

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How Can Place-Based Career Pathways Build Thriving Ecosystems? | Jonah Schenker 41:53

3d ago41:53

41:53

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Shawnee Caruthers explores the transformative power of Career Pathways Academy at iPark 87 with a dynamic panel of guests: Dr. Jonah Schenker (Ulster BOCES), John Boolukos (Archtop Fiber), and students Cameren Thibault-Edmonds and Natalie Winrow. Together, they discuss how place-based education, in…

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Stop Losing Your Best People - Ending Employee Drift through Purposeful Leadership with Michael Wozniak 44:41

4d ago44:41

44:41

In this conversation, Michael Wozniak discusses his book 'Employee Drift' and explores the concept that employees do not quit jobs but drift away due to poor leadership. He shares insights from his experience in the NBA, emphasizing the importance of trust, clarity, and support in leadership. Wozniak reflects on his own leadership journey, the sign…

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SAP Acquires SmartRecruiters. Many Implications, Here They Are. 9:40

7d ago9:40

9:40

This week SAP SuccessFactors announced the acquisition of SmartRecruiters, one of the fastest-growing talent acquisition platforms. This is much more than a technology deal: it demonstrates the value of talent and the massive redefinition of “applicant tracking systems” taking place today. While the deal is not final and details are yet to come, I …

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Leading Through Layoffs with Empathy and Transparency with Nicole Blevins 26:28

8d ago26:28

26:28

HR expert Nicole Blevins discusses navigating layoffs with humanity and professionalism. She emphasizes exploring alternatives first, creating fair selection processes, having managers lead termination conversations rather than HR, providing resources and support to departing employees, and maintaining transparency with remaining staff to address s…

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CEOs Are Proud Of Their Layoffs. Should They Be? 18:11

9d ago18:11

18:11

This week the WSJ highlighted the latest trends. CEOs proudly announcing layoffs and hiring freezes, only to see their stock price go up in celebration. The AI Superworker era has arrived, and companies are now plowing ahead with automation-induced workforce reductions. All this is not as simple as it sounds. AI budgets are skyrocketing (EY survey …

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What Does A Radically Collaborative Computer Science Education Initiative Look Like? | Monterey County 27:30

10d ago27:30

27:30

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we dive into California’s groundbreaking efforts to expand equitable access to computer science education. Joined by Dr. Caryn Lewis, Rod Garcia, and Dr. Sharisa Chan, we explore how initiatives like the Cal MSCS Professional Learning Partnership are fostering equity, building interdisciplinary approach…

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Bridging the Gen Z Generational Gap with Marcia Homer 36:26

11d ago36:26

36:26

HR expert Marcia Homer discusses the workplace dynamics between Gen X managers and Gen Z employees. She explains how different generational upbringings create workplace conflicts - Gen X grew up as independent "latchkey kids" while Gen Z is the most connected and supervised generation ever. Homer emphasizes that Gen Z isn't lazy but wants to work d…

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Can AI Replace Human Intuition? I Think Not, And Here's Why It Matters. 18:44

14d ago18:44

18:44

After many dozens of conversations with companies and AI vendors about AI transforming work, I’m left with one burning question. If we actually succeed in automating all our work tasks, data analysis, coding, and content generation, are these systems truly able to replace humans? I”m left with a very simple answer: NO. And the reason for this is no…

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What Does A Truly Responsive School Look Like? | Kara Bobroff 38:26

16d ago38:26

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In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Mason Pashia and Jason Cummins are thrilled to have Kara Bobroff join them to share her journey in transforming education for Indigenous communities. As the founder of One Generation and the driving force behind the Native American Community Academy (NACA), Kara passionately discusses how schools can tr…

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America's AI Action Plan, Quick Perspectives 9:12

16d ago9:12

9:12

Yesterday the White House released The American AI Action Plan, a 28-page policy document which covers many of the most important national (and global issues) we face in the new world of AI. As I briefly discuss today, there are many fantastic policy positions in here (a few odd ones, but they’ll be worked out over time) and the bottom line is that…

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How Could Regenerative Classrooms Change The Way We View Education? | Benjamin Freud 45:30

17d ago45:30

45:30

Join us on the Getting Smart Podcast as host Mason Pashia dives into regenerative design in education with Benjamin Freud, Head of Upper School at Green School Bali and co-founder of Coconut Thinking. Together, they discuss how schools can move beyond sustainability to embrace regenerative practices that create conditions conducive to life—not just…

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Democracy vs. Autocracy In Leadership, Which Way Should You Go? 14:53

18d ago14:53

14:53

One of the most fundamental issues in business is “how we make decisions.” Should top management make all the decisions? Or should we let front-line staff collaborate and weigh in on company strategies. Well in the political sphere, we’re testing these two models out in real time. And as I discuss, the “democratic” model leads to economies with hig…

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From Sweaty Presentations to Stage-Ready: Helping STEM Pros Speak with Confidence 29:45

18d ago29:45

29:45

What happens when a brilliant engineer can’t explain their ideas to decision-makers? In this episode, Neil Thompson, founder of Teach the Geek, joins Brandon Laws to share his journey from anxious, sweat-drenched presentations to confidently speaking in front of executives—and how he now helps other technical professionals do the same. If you manag…

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The Four "New SoftSkills" We Need To Thrive In The Age of AI 16:42

21d ago16:42

16:42

Now that everyone is deep into AI transformation and flooded with personal productivity tools, it’s time to take a step back and consider “what new capabilities (not skills) do we need to thrive here?” Well after 60+ interviews and discussions with hundreds of companies so far, I want to share the four “big things” that drive success. These are the…

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Catching Up! | Junior Republics, Global Flourishing, and Education Conductors? 52:59

22d ago52:59

52:59

In this episode of Catching Up, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia dive into a rich tapestry of educational innovation and thought-provoking topics. They explore Indiana's groundbreaking charter micro schools initiative, designed to re-engage students through public micro schools, and the fascinating history of Junior Republics—youth-led communities t…

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Explaining The Massive People Data Market: How It Works & What You Need To Know 21:57

24d ago21:57

21:57

This week Lightcast, one of the largest providers of people, jobs, and labor market data, acquired Rhetorik, a leading data collection company. Since this space has become highly strategic and ever-more essential to HR leaders (and it’s just getting more important with AI), I decided to try to explain the space. In this podcast I explain the differ…

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How Does Professions-Based Learning Prepare Young People for Pathways of the Future? | Corey Mohn & Sophia Porter 33:29

24d ago33:29

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In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, we explore the transformative power of professions-based learning through the lens of the CAPS network. Join Tom Vander Ark as he gets into how CAPS integrates real-world learning experiences with career-connected pathways, creating dynamic opportunities for students across the nation. With over 100 sit…

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The Leadership Blueprint Behind Amazon’s Success: Lessons from John Rossman 42:06

25d ago42:06

42:06

John Rossman, former Amazon executive and author of "The Amazon Way," discusses Amazon's 14 leadership principles and their application to modern businesses. As a fifth-generation Oregonian who worked at Amazon from 2002-2005, Rossman witnessed the company's transformation into a platform company. He emphasizes customer obsession, the importance of…

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Fear In The Workforce: Why Workers Are Afraid And What To Do About It. 28:57

29d ago28:57

28:57

This week I had a variety of meetings with companies and looked at some new research on the impact of AI in the workplace. Despite all the positive things going on in the economy, a strong signal came back about fear. A large percentage of workers are fearful for their jobs and the impact of AI, so I unpacked the topic this week. (Note: this podcas…

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How Can We Create Dynamic, High-Performing, Well-Regarded School Systems? | Don Haddad 37:47

1M ago37:47

37:47

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Dr. Don Haddad, retiring superintendent of St. Vrain Valley Schools, to explore the impactful journey of transforming a school district into a responsive, high-performing system. Dr. Haddad shares insights on building a vision that aligns education with the fast-changing gl…

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Beyond the Chatbot: What AI Mascots Reveal About the Next Wave of Business Innovation 36:39

1M ago36:39

36:39

In this conversation, Brandon Laws sits down with Fritz Brumder, serial entrepreneur and co-founder of WiseOx, to explore how “AI mascots” are helping organizations move from one-off ChatGPT experiments to secure, organization-wide automation. Fritz explains why legacy chatbots struggled, how large-language-model (LLM) technology unlocks far richer…

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Prompting Is Programming: We're All Software Engineers Now! 17:09

1M ago17:09

17:09

One of the most explosive changes in our new world of AI is this: every one of us can now “program” our AI assistants as if we were engineers. In other words, the “prompts” we conceive and use as queries are actually instructions, so we, as non-engineers (I am an engineer, but long ago), can now “program” and direct our AI friends to do what we wan…

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How Can AI Technology Transform Classroom Instruction? | Habib Bangura 35:12

1M ago35:12

35:12

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen dives into the cutting-edge world of AI in education with Habib Bangura from Urban Assembly. Discover how Project Cafe is revolutionizing classroom instruction by providing real-time, developmental feedback to teachers. By utilizing AI-driven video analysis, this innovative tool enhances …

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Maki People: Maxime Legardez Coquin Reimagines Recruitment with AI Agents 38:08

1M ago38:08

38:08

Max Legardez Coquin is one of the most fascinating entrepreneurs I’ve met. His new company, Maki People, is likely to revolutionize talent acquisition, and then revolutionize much of talent management. In this interview I ask Max to explain his fascinating background and how he sees AI Agents revolutionizing the entire process of screening, assessm…

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The Hidden Link Between Brand Storytelling and Workplace Culture 36:25

1M ago36:25

36:25

Matt Wolfe discusses how the StoryBrand framework transforms both marketing and workplace culture by positioning businesses as guides rather than heroes in their customers' stories. This approach creates shared identity and purpose among teams while improving external messaging, leading to better alignment between departments and stronger organizat…

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What Does Real-World Learning Look Like in Rural Tennessee? | Elizabethton High School 33:22

1M ago33:22

33:22

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, join Tom Vander Ark as he explores the transformative power of community-engaged learning with guests from Elizabethton High School in rural Tennessee. Discover how educators like Dustin Hensley are redefining education by integrating real-world challenges into the classroom, allowing students to develo…

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How AI Architectures Are Different, And Why This Changes Everything 18:35

1M ago18:35

18:35

In this episode I discuss our findings on AI systems architectures, and how they are going to completely change our HR Technology stack. As you’ll hear, I’m not predicting a quick disruption of $50+ billion in corporate software, but over the next decade we will see a quantum shift. (Quantum meaning “from A to B” not a gradual transformation.) List…

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What can we learn from pathways implementation around the world? | Paul Herdman 32:19

2M ago32:19

32:19

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Paul Herdman, CEO of the Rodell Foundation of Delaware, to discuss the transformative power of pathways in education. They delve into how initiatives like work-based learning and seamless transitions from high school to career can enhance student success and readiness for t…

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Bold Kindness: The Leadership Shift the Workplace Has Been Waiting For 26:13

2M ago26:13

26:13

Catherine Thorpe, CEO of Nurse Next Door and author of "Bold Kindness," discusses her revolutionary leadership approach that eliminates traditional hierarchies and empowers employees to be self-led. She defines bold kindness as caring deeply about people's development while understanding them as individuals to provide feedback they can hear and act…

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