What is definition of leadership and how does one become a better leader? Leadership is a lifelong journey of failing forward, stepping out in faith, and embracing discomfort. A true leader owns and lives out their imperfect self, sharing their stories of wins and losses, highs and lows, adversity and setbacks, while continuing to vision and pursue their calling. Tune in to the Gentle Art of Leadership podcast to hear these brave and vulnerable stories from some of the world’s most impactful ...
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Jon Holsten is the host of the real estate coaching and strategy podcast TopNotch Agents! Find TopNotch Agents episodes and segments here: Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-362665733 Twitter: https://twitter.com/tnagents Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TopNotch-Agents-253588971725831/
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Feeling Called to Something Bigger? Take the First Step With Emily Shoup
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49:17Emily Shoup is a 5 time returning guest, passionate advocate for women, and my beautiful wife! In this heartfelt conversation, Emily opens up about the unseen parts of personal growth—how sometimes, we must walk a path in the dark before we’re met with the beauty of sunrise. She shares what it means to say “yes” when you feel called to something, e…
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How One Family Built a Legacy Through Ceramics With The Fuentes Family
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35:49The Fuentes family, from Sevilla Spain are dear friends of mine. They are a multigenerational team of artisans and entrepreneurs, known for their timeless dedication to the craft of ceramics. With a legacy rooted deeply in passion and precision, they’ve built a reputation for curating and creating pieces that stand the test of time. In this episode…
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When Is It Time to Put Your Head Down and Hustle? With Niki McIntosh
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59:52Niki McIntosh is a Jesus follower and entrepreneur with a heart for truth, transformation, and community. Her journey is marked by seasons of deep work and reflection, where she learned the importance of putting her head down and staying faithful to the process. Niki shares how developing healthy boundaries and inviting trusted friends and family i…
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What If Success Isn’t the Point? With Jonathan McGinley
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58:40Jonathan McGinley is a Jesus follower and the founder of Intentional Man. He is a person who lives for significance over success. In this powerful and transparent conversation, he opens up about the reality of being new in entrepreneurship and the discomfort of learning while in the trenches. After navigating a deeply personal hardship, he shares h…
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How You Find Purpose After Hitting Rock Bottom With Marc Mero
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46:29Marc Mero is a Jesus follower, former WCW and WWE professional wrestler, motivational speaker, and author who has inspired millions of middle and high school aged youth with his powerful message of hope and transformation. In this episode, Marc shares incredible stories from his pro wrestling days, offering a behind-the-scenes look at life inside t…
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Who Loses If You Don’t Win? A Powerful Mindset Shift With Danelle Delgado
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1:08:25Danelle Delgado is a mother, speaker, author, and entrepreneur whose journey is defined by resilience, determination, and a commitment to making an impact in the world. In this episode, she shares powerful insights on success, emphasizing that it’s often built through consistent, small, and seemingly boring steps. Danelle introduces the concept of …
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From Pro Wrestling Fame to Finding Fulfillment in Faith With Ron Waterman
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42:06Ron Waterman is a Jesus follower, husband, father, former UFC mixed martial arts fighter, former WWE professional wrestler, and a current youth pastor, Realtor, speaker and firefighter, whose journey is marked by resilience, redemption, and faith. Ron opens up about his childhood struggles with bullying and how a teacher’s encouragement changed the…
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Financial Fundamentals: The Secret to Growing a Thriving Business With Steven Davis
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52:52Steven is an entrepreneur and co-owner of Satellite Strategies, an accounting firm based in Northern Colorado. He shares practical advice all business owners must know on how to get started with accounting and why staying on top of your finances is crucial for business success. Steven emphasizes the importance of having a dedicated person in charge…
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Business And Personal Development Insights With Andrew Johnson
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55:25Andrew Johnson is a Jesus follower, farmer, husband, father, and entrepreneur whose journey has been anything but conventional. Inheriting a farm, he embraced the challenges of farm life while also pursuing his passion for fitness—starting a business to help others achieve their health goals. Before fully stepping into farming and entrepreneurship,…
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Stepping Into Your Power to Impact Lives with Carl Sutter
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1:10:17Carl is a Jesus follower, retired pastor, husband, and father and grandfather who has spent his life guiding others, especially hurting men, through faith and personal challenges. In this episode, he opens up about his journey—from his early days as a pastor of an inner city church in Chicago, to transitioning and moving to Loveland, where he event…
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Building a Business by Embracing Your True Self With Darius Bell
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1:07:56Darius Bell is a husband, father, entrepreneur and content creator navigating the challenges and reality of building his new business from the ground up. In this episode, he shares the daily struggles that many entrepreneurs face and how he chooses to handle them. Darius stresses the importance of time management and why mastering the basics of you…
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Too Many Good Things Is Not A Good Thing With Emily Shoup
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1:00:17Four time guest, and my beautiful wife Emily Shoup, is back for a Valentine’s Day episode. Emily is a Jesus follower, wife, mother, beacon of light and hope for hurting women, and my right hand woman in business and life. In this episode, we discuss the power of setting boundaries, prioritizing what truly matters, and how we are living in a season …
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Letting Go Of The Past And The Future To Focus On The PRESENT With Greg Birch
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1:33:12Greg Birch is a father, speaker, and entrepreneur with a passion for self-improvement and living with intention. In this episode, Greg and Matt reflect on the powerful lessons they learned during their trip to Spain, emphasizing the importance of being present and truly experiencing life. Greg shares his thoughts on how society is too caught up in …
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Turning Your Life Around Through God With Juan Quintana
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53:40Juan Quintana is a Jesus follower, husband, father and man who transformed his life against all odds. For years, he was caught in a cycle of crime, drug use, and dealing drugs. After witnessing the toll it took on his wife and children, the pain he caused his family and others, and facing the reality of being locked up, Juan knew he had to make a c…
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Teaching The Next Generation It's Cool To Be Kind With 920
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30:40920 is a father, child of God, up and coming rapper, artist and entrepreneur who grew up in a home filled with his mother’s love and gospel music. As a child, his passion for music was undeniable! His mother, a pastor, attempted to shield him from hip-hop music because of the explicit content. After listening to it for the first time, he was hooked…
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The Cost Of Inaction With Adam Lunn
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1:56:41Adam Lunn, a former Boulder County Sheriff's Deputy, shares his profound and life-altering journey in this powerful episode. While on duty, Adam responded to a call involving a severely intoxicated young man. Following standard procedures, he and his team transported him in a vehicle that was ill-suited for the situation. Tragically, upon arrival a…
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Real Estate Education And Market Knowledge With Jesse Laner
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59:24Jesse Laner is a husband, father, and co-owner of Northern Colorado’s thriving real estate brokerage, C3. Interestingly, Jesse never planned on getting into real estate. The profession found him during a pivotal time in his life. In 2008, while initially exploring real estate investing, Jesse realized he needed capital to achieve his goals. This le…
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Seize the Moment: Stop Waiting, Start Doing, and Achieve Your Goals in 2025 with Rick Scadden
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1:04:48In this powerhouse episode, I sit down with Gentle Art of Leadership’s first guest, and my longtime friend, former M & E Painting project manager, and now full-time pastor, speaker, and soon to be author, Rick Scadden. This conversation blends hilarious stories, raw honesty, and life-changing lessons as we unpack Rick's extraordinary journey from a…
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From Rock Bottom to Redemption With Rocky Romano
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1:00:57This week, Rocky Romano joins us on the Gentle Art of Leadership Podcast. He gets real, raw, and unfiltered about his life’s traumas and wounds that led him to a deep and ugly heroin addiction. Rocky dives deep into the emotional wounds, abandonment issues, and patterns of self-sabotage that quietly derail men’s lives. From chasing success to numbi…
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Mastering the Real Estate Business With John Simmons
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51:17John Simmons is a husband, father, and entrepreneur . Straight out of high school, John enrolled in the army, where he developed a strong foundation of structure and resilience. Transitioning to civilian life, he worked in restaurants and experienced firsthand the dramatic shift between military service and the business world. John shares key lesso…
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How to Go From Self Employed to INVESTOR With Nate Shields
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1:02:34Nate Shields is a husband, father, investor, and entrepreneur. Eight months after obtaining his real estate license, Nate boldly quit his traditional job, embarking on a journey of self-employment. Now, he shares invaluable advice for aspiring real estate agents, emphasizing the importance of a robust CRM system and the potential benefits of joinin…
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How to Turn Your Passion Into a THRIVING Business With Terri Coomer
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44:36Terri is a wife, entrepreneur, and dedicated caregiver with a heartfelt passion for taking care of others. Her journey began in adult respite and home care, where she discovered her calling to provide compassionate, consistent care for her patients. Terri shares her story of overcoming the fear of starting her own business and emphasizes the import…
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How to Take Control of Toxic Relationships and Empower Yourself With Sandy Wardenburg Waggett
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1:01:57Sandy Wagget is an author, wife, and entrepreneur with an incredible journey that spans Las Vegas to Colorado and beyond. After earning a math degree and becoming a teacher, she pursued her master’s degree, met her husband, and began her first venture—building websites for wedding professionals. Over time, she pivoted from websites to running a ful…
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Turning Your Struggles Into Strengths With Desiree Landt
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54:12Desiree is a mother, entrepreneur, and the owner of Better Days, a thriving residential cleaning service. Her journey is one of resilience and transformation, overcoming homelessness and alcoholism to build a life of purpose and success. Desiree shares how dissatisfaction with her job led her to start cleaning homes; and opens up about the challeng…
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Learning to Overcome Trauma and Improving Mental Health With Kelly Fitzpatrick
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1:09:42Kelly Fitzpatrick is an entrepreneur, veteran, and advocate for mental health. Growing up, Kelly faced unique challenges and often felt different from her parents and siblings, with these struggles intensifying after her mother was put in a medically induced coma. A year after high school, she joined the Navy, and despite various challenges, she ro…
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How Aviation Helped Me Scale My Business: Tips for Entrepreneurs With Braun Mincher
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1:01:09Braun Mincher, a husband, father, and serial entrepreneur, has been building businesses from the age of 5! From a lemonade stand to founding a snack placement company at age 16, Braun's journey reveals an early passion for sales and entrepreneurship. Those experiences gave him invaluable sales skills that he used to launch and grow not one, but thr…
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Seeing MASSIVE Growth For Your Business By Caring For Your Customers With Matt Shoup
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1:01:39In this episode, Matt takes a turn on the other side of the table, sitting down with our podcast producer, Joey, for an in-depth conversation about podcasting, sales, and the realities of building a personal brand. They dive into what it takes to become a strong podcast interviewer, how to foster genuine, organic conversations, and why an authentic…
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How to Bootstrap a Business with Minimal Resources With Shane Sexton
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48:37Shane Sexton is a husband, father, entrepreneur, and co-owner of The Hearth House. In this episode, Shane shares his journey from getting a business degree at CSU to starting a successful outdoor living business with his dad. Early on, they ventured into restaurant maintenance before pivoting to outdoor kitchens, masonry, and eventually fireplaces.…
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Finding Your True Calling With Zachary Norris
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40:27Zachary is a husband, entrepreneur, and a man with a unique journey. Growing up in a family deeply rooted in the medical field, it seemed like a natural path for him. However, an early interest in finance took him in a different direction. The ability to speak multiple languages opened doors for him, which led to a global reach job and sales experi…
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How to Start a THRIVING Food Truck With Zach Kimbrough
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1:02:01Zach Kimbrough is a husband, father and the proud owner of the food truck "Mixed N' Mashed." His passion for culinary arts sparked early in home economics class, but his journey was anything but straightforward. After going to college for accounting and working as a building inspector, Zach found himself in a job he hated, often clashing with his p…
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How Take Control Of Your Life With Dave Albin
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54:14Dave Albin is a husband, father, entrepreneur, and Vietnam veteran with an incredible story of resilience and transformation. After a bombshell revelation at age 5, Dave’s life took a dramatic turn leading to addiction at just 10 years old. As he aged, his struggles with addiction only grew, leading to a spiraling life of drugs, alcohol, and destru…
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Balancing Art And Family With Meg Chestnut
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55:06Meg Chestnut is a wife, mother, and talented illustrator, best known for her work in the children’s book, JJ Learns Jiu Jitsu. In this episode, Meg shares how she got started illustrating for the book, and the importance of learning jiu jitsu for herself before diving into the project with Matt. She discusses the challenges of balancing motherhood …
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The Importance of Doing What You Love With Jarrel Ferrara
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59:09Jarrel Ferrara is a husband, father, and entrepreneur, owning both Gold's Gym and Show Shine Detail. In this episode, Jarrel shares his early journey into entrepreneurship, beginning with owning Subway franchises before launching his own detail shop. He offers valuable advice for those looking to start their own businesses early in life and emphasi…
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Jiu Jitsu and Entrepreneurship: Thriving in Both Worlds With Kristina Ogden
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58:33Kristina is a mother, entrepreneur, jiu jitsu brown belt, and an inspector judge for the Colorado Combat Sports Commission. After having kids, Kristina discovered her passion for jiu jitsu, and fell in love with competing at every belt. She and Matt discuss how the principles of jiu jitsu translate into the business world; and dive into the growing…
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Marriage & Motherhood Advice With Emily Shoup
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54:18Emily Shoup joins us for the third time to celebrate a milestone—20 years of marriage with her husband, Matt! In this episode, Emily and Matt share the secrets to reaching two decades together, emphasizing the importance of marrying your best friend. Emily opens up about her experience with postpartum anxiety after the birth of their first child, o…
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Sales Strategies That Work With Marc Shirazi
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52:11Marc Shirazi is a husband, entrepreneur, and storyteller with a unique background that has shaped his approach to life and business. As the son of an immigrant, he was raised with a strong work ethic, and trained to join the family business, which he did right after graduation. In this episode, Marc provides tactical sales strategies that have prov…
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The Realities of Human Resources With Amanda Ericson
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1:02:33Amanda Ericson is a wife, mother, and the owner of HRX, a fractional HR service company. In this episode, Amanda shares her journey from working with Matt in her college painter days, to transitioning into a simpler role at a sign shop to take a much-needed breath. She opens up about the challenges of becoming a single mom, and the vital role of ha…
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The Power of Positive Influence: A Turnaround Tale With Jessey Mansfield
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45:37Jessey Mansfield is a husband, father, and Non-Destructive Tester. His story is one of transformation that began with hard times at age 15, when he fell in with the wrong crowd and began smoking weed. After high school, his descent into opiates led him to a dark place. Jessey shares how he reached a breaking point and turned his life around with th…
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The Hard Path to Prosperity With Harlee Newman
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1:02:14Harlee Newman joins us for another insightful podcast episode, fresh off the sale of his business. He shares his journey from overcoming a victim mindset to embracing ownership and responsibility. He recounts how reading "Think and Grow Rich" transformed his outlook while he was in jail, and the challenges he faced upon release. He dives deep into …
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Secrets of a Public Insurance Adjuster: Professional Insights With Taylor Grant
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50:00Taylor is a father, husband, and entrepreneur who started his journey early. As a child, he sold bulk candy at school to make money, driven by the need to provide for himself and his family. After many various jobs, Taylor explored mortgages and real estate, learning to leverage short sales during the financial crash of 2008. Today he is a successf…
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Life's True Significance: Relationships and Faith With Grant Agler
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1:05:31Grant Agler is a father, husband, and the new head pastor at Foundations Church in Loveland and Windsor. Grant opens up about the struggles and low success rates often faced when transitioning to a lead pastor role at a new church, highlighting the unique challenges and potential pitfalls, including the risk of hidden agendas by other leaders. He a…
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Lessons from a Year of Podcasting: The Journey and Insights With Matt & Joey
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1:11:20The one year anniversary and 50th episode of the “Gentle Art Of Leadership” with Matt Shoup. Matt and Joey discuss the lessons they've learned after releasing a podcast episode every week for a year. They talk about the low barrier of entry for starting your own podcast, emphasizing how anyone can begin with minimal resources. They discuss the impo…
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The Turning Point: A Road to Success With Joseph Adkison
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1:03:29Joseph is a father and young entrepreneur who has overcome significant challenges to achieve success. Growing up in the ghetto, his parents worked hard to provide him with better opportunities. Initially, Joseph dreamed of playing football, but when that didn't work out, he found himself joining a motorcycle club that was part of the 1%ers. Realizi…
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Empathy in Entrepreneurship: Life Lessons With Trent Scott
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1:03:31Trent Scott is a husband, father, and entrepreneur. He shares how he grew his business from less than nothing, having borrowed $48k to start his practice before he passed his boards. Trent emphasizes seeing the best in people and maintaining a positive attitude when employees move on to other endeavors, and underscores the importance of having empa…
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From Dyslexic Student to Real Estate Mogul: Tips and Insights With Justin Morales
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1:08:27Justin Morales is a husband, father, and real estate investor with a compelling story of resilience and success. After struggling in school due to dyslexia, Justin found inspiration in the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad" and bought his first house at 19. He excelled as a sales rep at Sysco Foods and making six figures, but when his boss gave him an ultima…
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Direct Impact: Transforming Child Protection With Craig Secher
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1:04:51Craig is a counselor, therapist, and the founder of Realities for Children. Through his extensive experience as a kids' chemical addictions counselor, child protection investigator, and case manager, Craig witnessed firsthand how many vulnerable children were slipping through the cracks of the system. Faced with the high burnout rate among child pr…
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From College Hustle to Successful Startup: The Laborjack Journey With Josh Moser
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53:07Josh Moser is the co-founder of Laborjack, an innovative application that connects people with reliable staff for various tasks. Josh's entrepreneurial journey began in college, where he balanced being a full-time student, president of the soccer club, and working multiple jobs while simultaneously building his startup. Laborjack started by helping…
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Trusting Your Gut: A Guide to Entrepreneurial Success With Chelsea Husum
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49:49Chelsea is a wife, mother, author, dynamic speaker, and entrepreneur who owns a niche construction company in Denver. Her journey began with a degree in Spanish and Broadcast Journalism, which led her to Denver for an internship. As student loan payments loomed, she took a temp receptionist job, and quickly climbed the ranks in a marketing company.…
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Skills For Entrepreneurship, Writing, and Speaking With Mike Michalowicz
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1:12:19Mike Michalowicz is a husband, father, entrepreneur and acclaimed author whose journey is both inspiring and cautionary. Mike began his career by founding a software company, followed by delving into the world of angel investing. After losing money on poor investments, and facing a challenging period marked by functional depression and alcohol abus…
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Embracing the Sabbath: A Guide to Real Rest With Eryn Lynum
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53:47Eryn Lynum is a wife, mother, author, and podcaster. Her story took off with a viral blog post that led to the publication of her book, igniting a movement toward real rest in the lives of busy entrepreneurial moms. Amidst the demands of raising four children and managing a career, Eryn discovered the transformative power of the Sabbath, and found …
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