Learn powerful and profitable high-ROI marketing tips from Tim Cameron-Kitchen, founder of the relentlessly high-impact digital marketing agency, Exposure Ninja. Visit https://exposureninja.com/podcast for show notes and links.
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Using the techniques that have helped cement $148,646,000 in yearly traffic value for their clients, Siege Media and founder Ross Hudgens dive into the executional nitty gritty of what makes content rank, and how to get content shared. Topics include content marketing, SEO, digital PR, user experience and more.
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Google’s AI Mode Arrives in the UK! Time to Panic?
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45:16Google's AI Mode has officially launched in the UK, fundamentally transforming how high-value prospects discover and evaluate businesses, creating unprecedented opportunities for marketing leaders who act fast. While currently representing just 1.25% of total Google searches, AI Mode's user base consists of your most valuable prospects: decision-ma…
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"ChatGPT Agent" Is Changing How People Buy AGAIN
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52:47ChatGPT Agent has launched with the ability to complete purchases autonomously — and it's changing how high-value customers buy, creating massive opportunities for prepared marketers. Available now in paid ChatGPT subscriptions, this tool completes complex purchasing tasks in under 3 minutes that take humans 30+ minutes of research and comparison s…
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AI Is DECIMATING This Industry’s Marketing
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11:16We studied 7 million finance keywords and found one industry getting absolutely decimated by Google's AI Overviews. The results are staggering: 58% of Google searches now end in no clicks, ChatGPT serves 5.5 billion monthly active users, and AI Overviews appear in 38% of mortgage searches and 52% of financial advisory queries — yet most businesses …
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Scaling 250,000 Neighborhoods: Enterprise SEO at Apartments.com w/ Zach Chahalis
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44:30Zach Chahalis, VP of SEO at Apartments.com, joins Ross Hudgens for a deep dive into the high-stakes world of real estate SEO—where listings change daily, pages balloon into the hundreds of thousands, and competition is cutthroat across every SERP.They explore how Zach’s team manages SEO at scale, including 75+ site migrations, advanced internal lin…
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9 Reasons Why Your Traffic Is DOWN This Year
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23:26Website traffic drops can feel like a punch to the gut, especially when millions in revenue are at stake. While traffic declines are amongst the most stressful experiences for marketing leaders, they're rarely mysterious once you understand the underlying patterns. After diagnosing and resolving hundreds of traffic drops over the past decade for £1…
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Input Metrics in SEO: Leading Indicators in an AI World
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47:08Tom Critchlow, EVP of Audience Growth at Raptive, joins Ross for a deep dive into how input metrics can transform SEO strategy—especially in an era of declining visibility and messy attribution from AI search engines.They explore how input metrics improve executive reporting, unlock budget, and build cross-functional alignment by shifting focus fro…
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You’re Invited! — Healthcare Marketing Masterclass
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2:22Hey everyone 👋 On July 23rd, Charlie Marchant (CEO) will host a live session, which we'd love for you to attend. The session is designed for marketers and business owners in the healthcare and medical sector, but there are lessons on high-ROI lead generation that everyone in any sector can learn and apply to their business. During the session, Char…
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What You Need To Know About June 2025 Google Core Update
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27:47The June 2025 Google Broad Core Update is reshaping search results across industries, and the data reveals some interesting patterns that every marketing leader needs to understand. While broad core updates typically roll out over three weeks, this one brings unprecedented changes: AI Overviews have jumped to 15% visibility in some sectors, zero-cl…
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Future-Proofed E-commerce Content Marketing w/ SearchPilot's Will Critchlow
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49:33Ross joins Will Critchlow of SearchPilot for a wide-ranging conversation on the evolving landscape of e-commerce SEO and content strategy in the AI era.They cover how e-commerce brands are adapting content for multimodal search, why digital PR is surging, what still works in a zero-click world, and how Siege’s homepage study reveals surprising traf…
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The New AI Threat Terrifying Every Global Brand
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19:52The search marketing landscape has fundamentally changed, and major global brands are scrambling to adapt as AI tools disrupt traditional SEO strategies, creating unprecedented opportunities for forward-thinking marketers. May 2025 marked a pivotal moment: Google's market share dropped below 90% for the first time in a decade, whilst AI platforms n…
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What is AI Search? And Why Is It So Important?
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56:50AI Search is transforming how customers discover businesses, creating unprecedented opportunities for marketing leaders who understand its mechanics and implications. ChatGPT reached 5 billion visits last month. While Google still dominates at 105 billion visits, Semrush projects AI Search will overtake traditional search by 2028 — though our AI Se…
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AEO Playbook: How to Optimize for AI w/ Profound’s Josh Blyskal
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50:15Josh Blyskal, AEO Engineer at Profound, joins Ross Hudgens to dive deep into the emerging world of AI-native search optimization—and how brands can win visibility across platforms like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google’s AI Overviews.They unpack Profound’s Conversation Explorer, fresh data on generative search intent, and the real-world tactics that …
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Zero-click searches now account for 58.5% of all Google searches — more than doubling since 2022 — creating unprecedented disruption for traditional content marketing whilst opening massive opportunities for forward-thinking product-based businesses. Whilst media companies panic about disappearing traffic and affiliate commissions, smart marketers …
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Working with YouTube Influencers Just Got 10x EASIER
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35:24Google has just announced a solution to one of marketing's most fragmented challenges: managing YouTube influencer partnerships efficiently. The Creator Partnership Hub integrates directly into Google Ads, eliminating the juggling act between multiple platforms, manual video uploads, and disconnected analytics dashboards. For marketing teams alread…
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"AI Search to Overtake Traditional Search by 2028", According to Semrush
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47:56AI Search is projected to overtake traditional search by 2028, creating unprecedented opportunities for forward-thinking marketers. New research from Semrush reveals that AI Search visitors are 4.4x more valuable than traditional search users, and 50% of ChatGPT's citations point directly to business and service websites. Mastering AI Search Optimi…
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How Asana Scaled to 20M+ International SEO Visits
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45:58Chris Kelly, ex-Asana growth lead, joins Ross Hudgens to break down how Asana scaled to 20M+ international SEO visits—and how to do it again in 2025.They dive into localization strategy, market prioritization, TMS tools, team structures, and how to tie international SEO directly to business outcomes.Chris also unpacks real-world mistakes, market-sp…
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What is AI Search Optimisation (and How To Do It)
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20:43It's not just Google's game anymore. ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Claude are becoming the first or only destination for consumers today. This consumer behavioral shift requires a marketing strategy switch, with SEO alone not being enough anymore. Your marketing strategy must include AI Search Optimisation. But what is it? And how does it differ to trad…
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Everything Marketers Need to Know About AI Max for Search
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37:49Google's AI Max for Search is transforming PPC advertising, and early adopters like L'Oréal are already doubling conversions while cutting costs by 31%. This isn't just another Google feature. It's a strategic enhancement that amplifies human expertise rather than replacing it. For businesses with substantial PPC budgets, mastering AI Max is becomi…
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Google's AI mode represents the biggest shift in search for 20 years, and traditional SEO tactics simply aren't enough anymore. In this episode, I break down exclusive internal training from our team, revealing exactly how to get visibility in AI-powered search. Key insights covered: Why branded web mentions are the strongest correlation factor for…
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SEO vs GEO vs AEO: Which One Is It? w/ Rand Fishkin
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28:45Rand Fishkin joins Ross Hudgens to unpack the latest acronym craze—GEO, AEO, LEO—and why none may be necessary. They explore the origins of SEO, the rise (and fall) of inbound marketing, and how marketers can avoid falling into the trap of trend-chasing. From naming conventions to the real value of brand clarity, this is a conversation for anyone n…
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Have Google's AI Overview Ranking Factors Been Revealed?
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28:35The search landscape is evolving rapidly, and Google's AI Overviews are redefining how brands achieve organic visibility, creating unprecedented challenges and opportunities for marketing leaders who understand the new rules. While AI Overviews now appear in 17% of UK mobile searches (up from 14% in March), the most significant revelation comes fro…
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The Best B2C Marketing Strategies for 2025
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35:12The B2C marketing landscape has fundamentally transformed, with AI agents now shopping on behalf of consumers and customer acquisition costs reaching breaking point — creating both unprecedented challenges and extraordinary opportunities for brands that understand how to navigate this new terrain. While traditional marketing playbooks become obsole…
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Homepage Traffic is Up 10.7%: Unpacking the AI Effect w/ Drew Page & Ross Hudgens
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20:47Ross Hudgens and Drew Page sit down to unpack Siege Media’s latest study on the surprising shift in search behavior caused by AI-powered experiences and large language models (LLMs). The headline? Homepage traffic is up 10.7%—despite a decline in overall site wide clicks.They dive into the impact of branded search, the difference between B2B and B2…
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How Google Changed the Future of SEO at Google I/O 2025
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53:48Google I/O 2025 just changed the search landscape forever — and marketing leaders who adapt quickly will capture customers while their competitors remain fixated on yesterday's SEO tactics. While AI Mode is currently optional for US users, the early adoption advantages are already evident: our client Zugu Case became the top-recommended iPad case w…
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Adapting to the Brand-First SEO Era w/ Kevin Indig
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47:48Ross sits down with Kevin Indig, growth advisor and SEO strategist, to break down his groundbreaking UX study on Google’s AI Overviews—and what it reveals about the fast-changing landscape of search. From disappearing clicks to trust-first decision-making, Kevin shares how the rise of AI is reshaping everything from user behavior to what actually d…
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Copy This 11,000+ Lead Full Funnel Marketing Strategy
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28:05Discover how we generated 11,000+ mortgage leads in just 12 months starting from scratch — with a full-funnel marketing strategy that's applicable across any industry. While most agencies jump straight to tactics, our systematic approach began with fundamental audience research and strategic positioning, enabling DSLD Mortgage to transform from com…
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How ChatGPT Shopping Works (and How to Feature in It)
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19:58ChatGPT now processes over 1 billion web searches weekly, and increasingly, it's becoming your customers' personal shopping assistant, creating unprecedented opportunities for forward-thinking marketers While still emerging in fashion and beauty categories, ChatGPT Shopping is fundamentally different from traditional advertising, offering a product…
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The Word ‘Blog’ Is Holding Us Back w/ Jess Joyce
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35:20Ross sits down with Jess Joyce, SEO consultant at Inbound Scope, to talk about why the term "blog" is outdated—and how systems thinking, revenue-led SEO, and diagram-driven storytelling are creating smarter strategies for SaaS brands. Jess unpacks her visual-first approach to social content, explains the shortcomings of traditional keyword research…
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Could Google Lose 2 BILLION Daily Searches from Apple?
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41:09The search landscape is evolving dramatically, with Apple potentially dropping Google as Safari's default search engine — which could redirect billions of daily searches to alternative platforms. During testimony in Google's antitrust case, Apple's Senior Vice President Eddie Cue revealed that Safari searches are declining for the first time in 20 …
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Everything Marketers Should Know About ChatGPT's Shopping Update
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28:54ChatGPT's new shopping update has arrived, and it's transforming how consumers discover and compare products online — creating unprecedented opportunities for forward-thinking marketers. With the feature available across both free and paid versions, ChatGPT has introduced a visual product carousel that directly challenges Google Shopping and Amazon…
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Beyond Blogging: Building a Media Empire w/ HubSpot’s Kieran Flanagan
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44:57Ross sits down with Kieran Flanagan, SVP of Marketing at HubSpot, for a deep dive into AI’s impact on SEO, content strategy in a post-search world, and the real story behind the "HubSpot traffic drop.Kieran breaks down why conversions—not clicks—have always been at the core of HubSpot’s strategy, how AI is reshaping team structures, and why co-cita…
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Rocket Mortgage: A $5 Billion Marketing Success (and SEO Flaw)
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25:39The digital marketing strategy behind Rocket Mortgage's $5.1 billion success reveals surprising strengths and weaknesses, creating unprecedented opportunities for forward-thinking marketers. While their revenue grew 34% last year, their approach contains a critical flaw that's costing them millions in potential growth despite spending $824 million …
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Scaling a Billion Dollar Brand: Lessons from Semrush’s CMO
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50:56Ross sits down with Andrew Warden, CMO of Semrush, for a behind-the-scenes look at how the company has scaled past a billion-dollar valuation through brand innovation, performance marketing, and fearless experimentation.Andrew unpacks how he’s built and structured Semrush’s powerhouse marketing team, why they favor in-house execution over agencies,…
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Are AI Overviews Going to Impact Your Commercial Traffic?
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32:36Google's AI Overviews are reshaping search results pages, while ChatGPT's monthly users have nearly quadrupled to 41 million in just six months — creating both challenges and opportunities for forward-thinking marketers. While these changes are dramatic, there's a crucial distinction emerging: commercial search traffic remains remarkably stable. Go…
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Human First Marketing: Rethinking Marketing in the AI Era
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55:35This is a BONUS EPISODE of the Digital Marketing Podcast by Exposure Ninja --------------- The marketing landscape is becoming increasingly automated and impersonal — yet consumers are longing for authentic connections before making major purchasing decisions. This disconnect creates an unprecedented opportunity for forward-thinking marketers willi…
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From Content Engine to Freedom Engine w/ Chris Walker
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49:01Chris Walker (CEO of Passetto) joins Ross to talk about personal transformation, scaling through delegation, and why most entrepreneurs are chasing the wrong kind of freedom.Chris shares insights from his month-long sabbatical, including frameworks for creating true independence—beyond just financial freedom—and lessons learned about leadership, ag…
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The SEO Behind Zillow’s 1 Billion Visits/Year w/ Kristan Bauer
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43:14Kristan Bauer returns for a deep dive into the technical and organizational SEO strategies that helped Zillow grow to nearly 2 billion annual visits. She shares tactical insights on enterprise SEO at scale, including testing frameworks, internal collaboration, indexing strategies, and what it takes to lead with executive presence in a high-stakes e…
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Did Google Just "Confirm" That You Can’t Add E-E-A-T To Your Website?
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40:48Welcome to The Dojo, a search marketing news podcast for goal-driven marketing leaders, hosted by Exposure Ninja, featuring Charlie Marchant (CEO) and Dale Davies (Head of Marketing). "Sorry, you can’t sprinkle some experiences on your web pages." Google just dropped a bombshell statement claiming "you can't add E-E-A-T to your website" — but this …
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Is Technical SEO Dying? + What to Do Instead w/ Eli Schwartz
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48:07Ross welcomes Eli Schwartz, author of Product-Led SEO , to unpack the evolving role of SEO in a world shaped by AI, shifting perceptions, and organizational challenges. Eli dives into why SEO is being deprioritized, what companies are getting wrong, and how product-led SEO is the path forward. They cover layoffs, agency churn, the role of growth te…
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5 Signs It's Time To Redesign Your Website
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16:53Is your website failing to convert visitors into customers? The problem might be deeper than you think — and it could be costing your business significant revenue every day. For most businesses, your website is your single most important marketing asset. Yet many marketing leaders struggle to pinpoint exactly why their sites underperform or how to …
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Everything Marketing Leaders Should Know About Google’s NEW AI Mode
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38:05Google's new AI Mode is revolutionising search results — and marketing leaders must adapt their strategies now to maintain visibility and traffic. Currently in US labs testing, AI Mode completely transforms the traditional search experience by providing fully AI-generated answers rather than the familiar "10 blue links" we've relied on for decades.…
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Yes, You Do Need a Bing Strategy w/ Botify’s AJ Ghergich
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45:52Ross sits down with A.J. Ghergich, VP of Consulting Services at Botify, to unpack enterprise SEO, AI governance, and why SEOs absolutely need a Bing strategy in 2025. A.J. shares the story of how he landed the rare @SEO Twitter handle and what it’s meant for his visibility in the industry. They dive into findings from Botify’s latest AI survey, hig…
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eCommerce giant Sephora has built a $7.2 billion brand with masterful traditional search dominance, but they're making a critical mistake that could cost them millions in the emerging AI search landscape. While Sephora excels with 18 million monthly organic visits and prime rankings for competitive keywords, our analysis reveals they're almost comp…
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Could This Could Replace Domain Authority? w/ Dr. Pete
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44:23Ross sits down with Dr. Pete Meyers of Moz to discuss the ever-changing landscape of SEO, the impact of AI overviews, and how Moz is adapting to a rapidly evolving industry. They dive into the challenges of innovation in a competitive space, the role of brand authority versus domain authority, and the data-driven future of search marketing. Plus, D…
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Copy This HIGH-ROI Email Marketing Strategy in 2025
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1:09:29The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- Email marketing continues to deliver the highest ROI of any digital channel in 2025 — but only for marketers who understand the critical shifts transforming this landscape. While many marketing leaders report diminishing returns from their email efforts, forward-thinki…
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Inside Ahrefs’ $100M Growth: Tim Soulo on SEO, Content, and Social
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49:37Ross sits down with Tim Soulo, CMO of Ahrefs, to dive deep into content marketing, SEO, and Ahrefs’ evolving approach to growth. Tim shares insights on how Ahrefs built its marketing team, the role of SEO in today’s digital landscape, and why they’re investing in YouTube, LinkedIn, and thought leadership content. They also discuss the challenges of…
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Has Google's NEW AI Search Changed SEO AGAIN?
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9:30NOTICE — I tried to do this as an audio-only recording, but it doesn't make sense unless you see what I'm screen sharing. If you want to watch the video properly, visit exposure.ninja/ai-mode to watch the video on YouTube instead. --------------------- The search landscape is evolving yet again, with Google launching AI Mode – a direct response to …
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Traffic Down, Revenue Up: A Conversation w/ Rand Fishkin
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50:57Ross welcomes back Rand Fishkin, co-founder of SparkToro and longtime marketing thought leader, for a candid conversation about the evolution of search, audience research, and the shifting tides of digital marketing. Rand shares insights on why SEO’s golden age is behind us, why influence—not traffic—should be marketers’ primary focus, and how PR i…
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The search landscape is evolving beyond Google, and Perplexity.ai is emerging as a powerful new player for high-value audiences — creating unprecedented opportunities for forward-thinking marketers. While still smaller than Google at 15 million monthly active users, Perplexity's audience is exceptionally valuable: 30% hold senior leadership positio…
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Copy This PROVEN Digital PR Strategy in 2025
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55:56The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- To dominate digital visibility in 2025, you'll need a proven PR strategy focused on three critical elements: - Your narrative authority - Your data-driven approach - Your multi-channel amplification With AI-generated content flooding the internet, Google's Search Gener…
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