Bea and Beth explore the lives of solitary creatures navigating the social jungle. We discuss all the reasons people experience loneliness and finding ways forward. Want to watch while you listen? Check out YouTube for our video episodes.
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Making Conversation is a bi-weekly (but sometimes weekly) podcast where we celebrate the act of making in all its forms. We spotlight the incredible individuals powering our creative community, dive into need-to-know stories of craft and its history, and explore issues deeply rooted in our values of diversity and inclusion.
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29. Abandonment Wounds - Diving in to Find Healing
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21:57In this intriguing episode, Bea and Beth delve into the world of emotional wounds, focusing specifically on abandonment. Often rooted in childhood experiences, these wounds can significantly impact adult life, influencing behaviors and relationships. Discover the fascinating history of this concept, its connections to the 1600s, and explore various…
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28. Transitions and Support, with Sagar Soni
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42:01Join us in this enlightening episode of Social Leopards, where we sit down with Sagar Soni, host of the "Beyond the Speech" podcast. Sagar shares his journey into podcasting, inspired by the challenges of maintaining authenticity amidst the curated world of online self-development. Discover how Sagar's experiences during the pandemic shaped his app…
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In this episode of Social Leopards, Bea and Beth delve into the challenging topic of loneliness following divorce or relationship breakups. They share personal stories and experiences, emphasizing the emotional turmoil and isolation that often accompany such life changes. The hosts discuss societal pressures, the struggle to maintain friendships, a…
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A knitwear designer & 🧶 dyer walk into their own yarn shop - ōSHən Knits & Fibres w/ Vanessa Fleming
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38:31Hey there, fiber friends! This week on Making Conversation, I’m bringing you a chat that is full of color, creativity, and coastal charm. I sat down with Vanessa Fleming, the brilliant mind behind ōSHən Knits & Fibres, a one-of-a-kind yarn shop in Astoria, Oregon. Vanessa is a marine biologist-turned-knitwear designer and yarn dyer, and her love fo…
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Social Leopards is roaring back for Season 3! Before we charge forward, Bea and Beth are taking a moment to reflect on the journey through Season 2—the stories that stuck with us, the moments that made us think, and the incredible guests who shared their wisdom on loneliness and ways forward. Coaches, therapists, healers, and everyday people cracke…
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25: Grief, Emotions and Healing, with Mandy Capehart
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59:57Grief isn’t just about loss—it’s about life, transitions, and the quiet spaces where emotions go unspoken. In this episode of Social Leopards, Bea and Beth sit down with certified grief educator and somatic practitioner Mandy Capehart to unravel the many types and layers of grief that are beyond mourning. From unmet expectations to personal transfo…
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24: Healing from Within: Crystal Dossman's Journey Through Trauma
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45:40In this episode of Social Leopards, hosts Bea and Beth delve into the world of emotional healing and resilience with their guest, Crystal Dossman. Crystal shares her inspiring journey of overcoming personal challenges, including living with a brain tumor and navigating single motherhood. As a practitioner of biodynamic craniosacral therapy and ener…
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Adapting in an evolving 🌎 of craft Part 2 w/ Britt Garber, Bea Bonanno and Jen Joyce, ep. 170
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58:11In this special episode of Making Conversation—originally recorded and posted on our YouTube channel in late 2024—host Jen welcomes two brilliant voices in the fiber arts world: Brit of KnotBadBrit and Bea of WoolDreamers. This episode is all about building inclusive, authentic community within the crafting space, and it’s filled with warmth, wisdo…
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23: Perspectives on Cuddle Therapy, with Keeley Shoup
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39:29Welcome to Social Leopards, where hosts Bea and Beth explore the current landscape of loneliness and highlight pathways to connection and healing. In this compelling episode, they introduce listeners to Keeley Shoup, a prominent figure in the field of cuddle therapy and an advocate for boundaries and consent education. Keeley shares her journey int…
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22: From Trauma to Triumph: Leon Macfayden's Journey
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41:56Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussions about suicide and bullying, which some listeners may find distressing. Please take care while listening. Today Bea and Beth delve into the complexities of trauma and resilience with their guest, Leon Macfayden. Leon shares his inspiring story of overcoming PTSD, a journey that began during his time…
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21: Unraveling Anxiety with Megan Devito, Life Coach
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41:15Welcome to Episode 21, where hosts Bea and Beth delve into the world of anxiety, loneliness, and the journey to overcome them. This week, they're joined by Megan Devito, a life coach dedicated to helping ambitious women tackle stress and build resilience. Megan shares her unique path from teaching to life coaching, revealing how her personal battle…
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20: Perspectives on Self-love, with Malisa Hepner
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50:29Ready to pounce on some powerful insights? It's Episode 20, and Beth and Bea are here to tackle the wild world of loneliness and self-discovery. This time, they're joined by the amazing Malisa Hepner—a non-traditional therapist and entrepreneur who's as inspiring as she is insightful. Together, they'll uncover how to navigate life's challenges, eas…
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19: Loneliness in the Digital Age, with Jasmin Schubert
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29:44Is it just us, or does working from home sometimes feel like you're stuck on a deserted island with Wi-Fi? In this episode, Bea and Beth tackle a big topic that many of us secretly wrestle with: loneliness in the digital age. But don't worry, they're not handing you just tissues—they're handing you tools! Joining the conversation is Jasmin Schubert…
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18: Don't Look Back: Embracing Positivity and Self-Care
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27:08Hosts Bea and Beth are back, and they're diving into the wild jungle of loneliness! Inspired by the mantra, "Don't look back; you're not going that way," they tackle how past experiences and nagging negative self-talk can mess with your current mindset. What's in the Mix? Moving Forward: Practical tips to put the past in the rearview mirror, includ…
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Snacks for makers + ways to cope with *gestures around* w/ Andreya Nightingale & Jen Joyce, ep. 169
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49:53🌟 This episode was originally published on the Making Conversation YouTube channel on Nov 23, 2024. 🌟 Makers need snacks! We also need to take care of ourselves because if we do not, how will we take care of others? That part is so VERY important, especially right now. I popped into my kitchen to record with the WONDERFUL Chef Andreya Nightingale w…
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17: Anxiety, Creativity and Music, featuring Anthony Church
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37:38Anthony Church is the composer and producer of the Social Leopards intro and outro music! In this episode, Bea and Beth hang out with this talented music producer and podcaster, who opens up about his journey with loneliness and social anxiety. He chats about how music has shaped his purpose, helping him connect with others and inspire them. Anthon…
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Sacred Sheep 2024 - a celebration of the fiber art community and makers, ep. 168
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1:01:31I jumped in the car and headed to Portland for Sacred Sheep—a vibrant maker festival brought to you by the team at Ritual Dyes! If you love yarn, fiber arts, pottery, handmade jewelry, inspiring classes, and creative community, this festival is for you. In this episode of Making Conversation, I chat with some of the incredible makers who vended and…
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16: Navigating Loneliness When Moving Abroad
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45:55🎙️ Grab your headphones for this wild ride on Social Leopards! Bea and Beth are back, tackling the tricky terrain of loneliness and social isolation that can pounce when you move to a new country. This week, they’re joined by the fabulous Suzanne, who spills all the juicy details about her leap from the US to Spain. 🌍🇪🇸 Suzanne’s story is a whirlwi…
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15: Resiliency Revealed featuring Ambar Paloma
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36:41Welcome to an enlightening episode of Social Leopards, hosted by Bea and Beth, where we delve into the intricate dance between intuition and anxiety with the vibrant guest Ambar Paloma, host of the podcast, "The Lighthouse Within." Ambar shares her journey through the lens of social anxiety, emphasizing the role of intuition and resiliency while na…
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Welcome to the latest episode of Social Leopards, where Bea and Beth dive into the complexities of navigating loneliness in the modern world. The hosts explore diverse avenues for social interaction, spotlighting digital networks recommended by listeners. They also address questions, providing guidance on neuroscience therapy as a legitimate option…
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13: Unlocking the Perspectives of Loneliness: Season 2 Trailer
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4:12Welcome to the tantalizing trailer of Social Leopards' upcoming season, where hosts Bea and Beth delve into the intricate landscape of loneliness. This episode sets the stage for Season 2, focusing on diverse perspectives and real-life experiences related to solitude. The Social Leopards team will bring you stories from people who have navigated th…
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12: Navigating the Social Jungle: Reflections and Future Plans
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25:46Welcome to the season finale of Social Leopards with hosts Beth and Bea. In this episode, they reflect on the journey of Season 1 and share exciting plans for Season 2, which will feature guests discussing social anxiety, loneliness, and personal transformations. The hosts emphasize the importance of sharing diverse perspectives and finding positiv…
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11: Embracing Solitude: Finding Meaning in Alone Time
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41:52In this episode of Social Leopards, hosts Beth and Bea explore the complex emotions surrounding solitude and loneliness. They share a heartening story from a listener, Macy, who bravely stepped out of her comfort zone, and discuss the power of courage in overcoming social fears. Delving into different personality types, they examine why some people…
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Welcome to episode 10 of Social Leopards, where hosts Beth and Bea explore the intricate relationship between ADHD and loneliness. Discover the realities of living with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, a condition that often goes undiagnosed until later in life, affecting social connections and self-esteem. In this insightful episode, the …
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9: Navigating Loneliness: Understanding the Fight or Flight Response
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40:14Welcome to Episode 9 of Social Leopards with Bea and Beth, where we delve into the complexities of social isolation, anxiety, and the emotional barriers that keep us from forming meaningful connections. In this episode, we explore the powerful fight or flight response and how it can impact our social interactions and mental health. Join us as we di…
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In Episode 8 of Social Leopards, hosts Beth and Bea delve into the nature of friendships, exploring the unique ways connections are made and nurtured. They open the episode with a heartwarming listener story about an unexpected friendship born from a chance encounter in London. The hosts introduce the concept of friendship tiers, discussing the dif…
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Feeling like a solitary creature in a social jungle? Join Bea and Beth in Episode 7 of Social Leopards as they explore the top 10 ways to safely and comfortably re-enter the social scene post-pandemic. From joining online communities to practicing self-compassion, discover practical tips and heartfelt stories that can help you navigate the complexi…
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6: Finding Connection: Navigating Social Anxiety
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1:00:39Welcome to Social Leopards! In this episode, Beth and Bea dive into the complexities of social anxiety and how it affects our ability to connect with others. They share personal anecdotes, coping mechanisms, and practical strategies to help those who struggle in social situations. From mindfulness techniques to the importance of seeking professiona…
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Ritual Dyes + Sacred Sheep 2024 (+ sneak peeks 👀) w/ Rachel Bratcher & Jen Joyce, ep. 167
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44:53In this special episode, I hit the road to Portland, OR, to sit down with Rachel, the creative mind behind Ritual Dyes and founder of Sacred Sheep, a festival dedicated to makers, especially those passionate about the fiber arts. From discovering her love for knitting and hand-dyeing yarn to the creation of a highly curated, community-focused fiber…
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5: The Caregiver's Journey: Navigating Isolation and Finding Strength
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30:26Welcome to Social Leopards! In this episode, Bea and Beth dive into the poignant and often challenging world of caregiving, which can sometimes be a source of loneliness and isolation. Join Beth as she shares her deeply personal story of caring for her father, who struggled with dementia, and the impact it had on her own life. From the early signs …
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4: Top Tips for Becoming More Social: Join the Jungle of Friendship!
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27:43Welcome to episode four of Social Leopards! In this episode, hosts Beth and Bea share their top how-to tips for becoming more social in a world that often feels isolating. Are you a solitary creature looking to navigate the social jungle? This episode is for you! Learn why prioritizing yourself and taking your social vitamins can make a huge differ…
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Addressing Ableism in the Maker Community, ep. 166 w/ Beth Gorishek, Kira Dulaney, and Jen Joyce
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31:49The world of crafting and making should be a space where everyone feels welcome and empowered. However, there are barriers—both visible and invisible—that can exclude or marginalize makers with disabilities. In this episode I am joined by the super fabulous Beth Gorishek, The Adaptive Knitter & Kira Dulaney of Kirk K Designs and we chat about the w…
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3b: Reflections and Affirmations: Finding Strength in Everyday Challenges
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20:11Welcome to the first bonus episode of Social Leopards with Beth! In this special segment titled "Random Thoughts and Affirmations," Beth shares her personal reflections on recent life experiences and offers heartfelt hopes and encouragement for her listeners. Join Beth as she discusses overcoming work challenges, the power of positive thinking, and…
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3: Navigating Cultural Impact on Social Experiences
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26:14Join Beth and Bea in episode three of "Social Leopards" as they delve into the cultural impact on social experiences. Bea shares her personal story of growing up in a Ukrainian immigrant family in New York City and how her parents' struggle to assimilate influenced their social connections. Beth and Bea discuss the challenges of forming meaningful …
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2: Navigating Solitude and Embracing Friendship
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29:42In this episode of Social Leopards, hosts Beth and Bea dive into the complexities of solitude, loneliness, and social isolation. Bea, a psychologist, provides clear definitions to help distinguish these concepts and shape the conversation. They share personal stories and discuss the importance of vulnerability, the challenges of making new friends,…
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1: Finding Connection in a Solitary World: The Social Leopards Journey
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18:58Welcome to the first episode of Social Leopards! Join hosts Beth and Bea as they embark on a journey to build an online community that fosters virtual friendships. Are you a solitary creature trying to navigate the social jungle? This episode dives into the challenges of making meaningful connections and the persistence required to find true friend…
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Cashmere goats & a hand knit wedding dress, ep. 165 w/ Amy Swanson, Rachel Carleton, and Jen Joyce
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53:28We're back with some wonderful Fall episodes to celebrate hunkering down with your current favorite WIP and enjoying an episode of the Making Conversation podcast. ;) Just a heads up, this episode is VERY visual. If you prefer to watch, pop over to our YouTube channel. xoxo In this episode, I am so lucky to chat with Amy Swanson of June Cashmere an…
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Flock Fiber Festival + La Mercerie - Special spaces for makers w/ Jess Povenmire & Jen Joyce, ep 164
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35:31To know Jess is to love Jess and Jess' love of this special fiber arts community is very evident in everything she does. From in her yarn shop on Bainbridge Island, WA to Flock Fiber Festival, a yarn show in Seattle, WA, celebrating a love of all things wool, the fibers arts community is so very lucky to have these two spaces to come together and c…
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Growing into your purpose—Meet crochet artist & Making engineer Abi Santiago w/ Ashley Yousling, ep. 163
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44:44The universe definitely brought this fabulous human to Making. Ashley chats with our crochet-loving engineer all about her journey in craft, her path to leadership and computer sciences, and how we were so lucky to have Abi join the team. To know Abi is to love Abi! Grab your WIP and hit play. :) Abi's crochet website If you're in Seattle, catch he…
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A Making update + some maker inspiration & musings on fear w/ Ashley Yousling & Jen Joyce, Ep. 161
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40:26Ashley and Jen share some really exciting features that are coming to Making VERY SOON. We kick off a new segment where we will share business and/or makers in our community that help spread our values and Ashley dives into the topic of fear and decision-making. Grab your WIP, your favorite snack, and hit play! If you are a designer, sell finished …
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Love is in the Making w/ Catherine Clark of Brooklyn General Store & Jen Joyce, Ep. 160
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40:17Hello, makers! Super excited to bring you this episode with our pal, Catherine. Just a heads up, there are parts of this episode that are a little more visual as we give a shop tour. Click to watch instead! Brooklyn General Store has been the go-to place for crafty supplies of all kinds for NYC makers since 2002. We sat down with the Queen of Union…
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Sheep heroes, lamb gangs, and a very, very good book w/ Jane Cooper and Jen Joyce, Ep. 159
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48:48Author Jane Cooper joins us to talk all about her book, The Lost Flock: Rare Wool, Wild Isles and One Woman’s Journey to Save Scotland’s Original Sheep. Jane and Jen chat about why the Orkney Boreray sheep are so very special, Jane's maker journey, lambs...lots of lambs, and what it's like writing your first book. About The Lost Flock Purchase Pape…
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Meet & Greets New York City Edition Pt. 3 | Brooklyn General Store & VKL 2024 w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 158
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52:00In the final episode of this series, we get to hear from a few more makers that we chatted with during our last visit to NYC! Get to know some very special humans that we invited to join us for our Brooklyn General Store booth Meet and Greets at Vogue Knitting Live and also from our special maker meetup that we hosted with Brooklyn General Store an…
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Meet & Greets New York City Edition Pt. 2 | Brooklyn General Store & VKL 2024 w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 157
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49:29We're continuing our Making Meet and Greets from NYC with crafty friends, old and new! The lovely Catherine of Brooklyn General Store and Aimée of La Bien Aimée asked us to bring a bit of our Meet and Greets to their 2024 Vogue Knitting Live booth and we also co-hosted a maker meet-up at Brooklyn General Store. Lots of great conversation, stories, …
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Meet & Greets New York City Edition Pt. 1 | Brooklyn General Store & VKL 2024 w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 156
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45:49In this episode of the podcast, we’re taking it back to New York City! If you’ve been following along for a while you know that we’ve been visiting events around the world, collecting and then sharing important stories. (Mostly fiber arts related but we want to expand that. Hey other maker events, hit us up!) This time we did things a little differ…
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How to adapt to an evolving world of fiber art and craft w/ with Jonna Helin, Aimée Gille, Ashley Yousling, Joji Locatelli, and Jen Joyce, Ep. 155
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34:04During Vogue Knitting Live 2024, Jen took the stage with big names in the fiber arts and maker industry to talk about how we can adapt to the ever evolving world of craft-what has changed, where the opportunity is, and advice on what to do when things are challenging. Our Panelists Jonna Hietala is the co-founder, creative director and CEO of Laine…
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How to enhance your making | Get to know Liza Laird, author of Yoga of Yarn w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 154
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55:16Liza Laird is a fiber artist, human mom, dog mom, cancer survivor and author of Yoga of Yarn, a knitter’s guidebook to self discovery. (Don't worry dear maker! The book is for makers of all kinds. We chat about that too!) We journey through Liza's life--deciding to leave the corporate world to pursue her passions, how she approached writing a book …
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All about pricing for makers w/ Quayln Stark, Brittany Garber, Terry Streetman & Jen Joyce. Ep. 153
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1:28:59"How do I price my makes?" "How do I price my services?" "As a maker that does not sell...how can I help change perceptions so my community can get paid what they're worth?" "How do you price handmade items?" Let's talk pricing. Out with the gatekeeping. Patterns, services, finished goods, etc. They name names, spill tea, get really real, and share…
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Barcelona Knits 2023: Meet the artists and vendors w/ Jen Joyce, ep. 152
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1:38:04In this podcast episode, we're heading back to Barcelona Knits in…you guessed it…Barcelona, Spain! Get to know some of the vendors, artists, and vloggers who all share the love of all things fiber art, yarn, knitting, crochet, cross stitch, and more! This is a special group of people, dear makers! :) https://www.barcelonaknits.com Who you'll meet: …
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Sacred Sheep 2023 - Making Meet and Greets with vendors and artists, ep. 151
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48:37In this podcast episode, we're heading back to the Sacred Sheep Fiber Festival in Portland, Oregon! Get to know some of the vendors, artists, and vloggers who all share the love of the act of making. The full meet and greet videos are coming soon, so make sure you are subscribed. :) https://thesacredsheep.com Who you'll meet: THE SHEEP. Casanova AK…
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