The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand mome ...
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Say what you like, music just sounds better at 33rpm . . . Join Steve as he trawls through his record collection to bring you the best from the late ’60s and the ’70s. Well known and not-so-well-known songs from the likes the Beatles, the Doors, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, the Allman Brothers and many more, spinning from the decks of OAR FM.
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Vinyl Vault - 07-05-2025 - The Ghost of Freddie Cesar by Troy Kingi
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56:04Being NZ Music Month our featured LP is The Ghost of Freddie Cesar by Troy Kingi - Some great New Zealand music for NZ Music MonthBroadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 192: The Chosen Few: A Talent Strategy That’s Holding You Back
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22:22In this episode, Bob ’n Joyce explore the common practice of relying on the same group of people—time and again—to get important work done. Joyce calls them the “spoiled brats,” while Bob refers to them as the “usual suspects” or “chosen ones.” The problem? This habit unintentionally sidelines the talent in waiting—the wild cards and up-and-comers—…
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Episode 191: Creating Islands of Sanity in the Chaos – Part 2
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29:53In today’s episode, Bob ‘n Joyce pick up where they left off in episode 185, diving deeper into how leaders can navigate turbulent and unsettling times with intention and heart. The key? Leaders must first ground themselves before engaging in conversations about what the business needs to move forward. But how do you get grounded? Where do you star…
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Vinyl Vault - 23-04-2025 - Darkness on the Edge of Town by Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band
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53:51Tonight's featured LP is Darkness on the Edge of Town by Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band - Some great tracks from a great album and also songs by The Doors, Tedeschi Trucks Band, The Grateful Dead, Chris Stapleton, CCR, John Prine and Bob Seger.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 190: Getting Unstuck with Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo – OD Expert, Author, Academic, Entrepreneur... and All-Around Great Human
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40:46In this episode, Bob 'n Joyce sit down with someone who really knows how to spark transformation from the inside out—Ernesto Gómez Arzapalo. He’s worn a lot of hats—OD consultant, c-suite exec, academic, serial entrepreneur—and somehow manages to still be one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. Ernesto brings the kind of wisdom you only get from d…
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Vinyl Vault - 09-04-2025 - The Vinyl Vault Cover Versions Show
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56:09The Vinyl Vault Cover Versions Show - Some great versions of other peoples songs by artists such as Wilson Picket, Bruce Springsteen, Aretha Franklin, Frankie Miller, Robert Gordon, Janis Joplin, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and many others.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 189: Letting Employees Go – Do It Right or Pay the Price
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16:36In this episode, Bob and Joyce explore the critical importance of handling employee terminations the right way. When done poorly, these moments don’t just affect the individuals involved—they send shockwaves through the entire organization, damaging culture and trust. The conversation is sparked by the troubling trend of mass layoffs via impersonal…
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Vinyl Vault - 26-03-2025 - The Annual Women in Music Show
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53:41The Annual Women in Music Show - Some of the greatest female artists all from the vinyl. Aretha Franklin, Grace Slick, Janis Joplin, Diana Ross and many, many more.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 188: OD Challenge: Who Do We Choose to Be?
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16:37In this episode, Bob and Joyce reflect on the evolving role of HR and OD amidst today’s profound global disruptions. Drawing inspiration from Meg Wheatley—author and organizational wellness expert—we explore the concept of creating islands of sanity in a world where many feel isolated, ignored, or overwhelmed. We discuss practical ways to build str…
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Episode 187: Where Science Meets OD Practice – A Conversation with Dr. Rob Lion
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48:04In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce welcome Dr. Rob Lion, a strategist, professor, and expert in workplace culture, leadership development, and performance improvement. With a passion for helping students, business leaders, and HR/OD practitioners grow and thrive, Rob blends academic rigor with real-world experience to create sustainable, high-performanc…
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Vinyl Vault - 12-03-2025 - Tonights featured LP is I Never Loved a Man the way I Loved You by Aretha Franklin
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55:45Tonights featured LP is I Never Loved a Man the way I Loved You by Aretha Franklin - Great tracks from the Queen of Soul as well as hearing from Otis Redding, Ray Charles, Ben E King, Carole King, Al Green, Marvin Gaye and many others All from the vinyl, just the way great music was meant to be heard.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz…
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Episode 186: Brace for Impact: How to Survive Workplace Change
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19:32In today’s episode, Bob ‘n Joyce dive into how people react to change—especially in the workplace. If you’re a change agent or work in organizational development, you won’t be surprised by resistance to change. But what may surprise you are the practical steps you can take to minimize chaos and increase the chances of success. With most organizatio…
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Vinyl Vault - 26-02-2025 - Myself and Warren disect Rolling Stones
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54:59Myself and Warren disect Rolling Stones - Some great tunes from one of the greatest bands ever.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 185: Speaking Up or Staying Silent? Leadership in a Polarized World
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24:02In this episode, we tackle a conversation we’d rather avoid—but know we must have. How can leaders create the conditions for constructive dialogue in divisive times? Do they take a stand based on their company’s vision, values, and business needs, even if it alienates some? Or do they stay silent, wary of the risks in today’s political climate? We …
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Episode 184: Lead with Intention: Make Every Moment Count
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24:25In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce explore the power of deliberate and intentional leadership. Too often, we miss opportunities to maximize our impact by reacting impulsively to the chaos around us. Instead of leading with purpose, we get swept up in the moment. Leading with intention means consciously choosing our words and actions to shape outcomes ra…
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Vinyl Vault - 12-02-2025 - A celebration of 1973
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55:26A celebration of 1973 - Some of the greatest albums in history were released in 1973. We will be playing Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, The Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Led Zeppelin, George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney & Wings, Gregg Allman, Gram Parsons and The Allman Brothers Band.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz…
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Episode 183: Lead Like a Person, Not a Position - A Conversation with Mark Carpenter
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35:56In today’s episode, Bob ‘n Joyce welcome Mark Carpenter, author and leadership consultant, to discuss his work helping leaders bring their full humanity to work. Mark’s leadership premise is that there are leadership positions and there are leaders and that the two should not be confused. They may coexist together but too often they don’t. Mark hel…
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Episode 182: Rethinking Leadership: The 5 Must-have Qualities for Today’s World
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24:22In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce discuss the findings of a Strategy + Business Newsletter article on the 5 qualities that leaders must possess to succeed in today’s world. These qualities imply a shift from the metrics of efficiency and performance to managing the more intangible aspects of the business such as governance, environmental impact, and a …
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Vinyl Vault - 29-01-2025 - Tonight's featured LP is The Joshua Tree by U2
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56:09Tonight's featured LP is The Joshua Tree by U2 - Some great tunes from U2 and also The Stone Roses, Oasis, The Specials, Paul Weller, The Beatles, Jason & The Scorchers and The Alarm.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 181: Blue Collar Power From the Ground Up – A Conversation with Ryan Englin
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41:19In this episode, Bob’nJoyce talk with Ryan Englin about what businesses can do to fully leverage the power of the people closest to the work. Englin is a gritty, no bull coach who helps business owners get real about what’s needed to build strong teams that drive business success. Some of Ryan’s thought-provoking insights include: Being authentic t…
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Episode 180: Managing Without Power – A conversation with Joris Merks-Benjaminsen
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54:24Today, Joris Merks-Benjaminsen joins us from the Netherlands to share his work helping companies cultivate leaders who emphasize both accountability and human connection to achieve extraordinary results. Joris is an award-winning author, brand and marketing expert, successful business leader, and entrepreneur. In 2022, after 22 years in various cor…
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Vinyl Vault - 15-01-2025 - Back In Black by AC-DC
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55:05Some great tracks from our featured album as well as Led Zeppelin, Genesis, Peter Green, Jimmy Barnes, Bob Seger, and Lynyrd Skynyrd.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 179: 2025 - The Year of Doing Something! (Some will work, others won’t)
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30:12Bob’ n Joyce look ahead to 2025 and share what workplace pundits tell us what we can expect this year. Instead of regurgitating a boring list, they synthesize them down to the 4 biggies, and then play their “What-if?” game to stimulate our thinking about actions we can take. There are some pleasant surprises about what the experts* predict resultin…
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Vinyl Vault - 01-01-2025 - Tonights featured LP is Let it Bleed by The Rolling Stones
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54:42Tonights featured LP is Let it Bleed by The Rolling Stones - Some great tracks from a great Stones album as well as The Who, Genesis, Government Mule, The Marshall Tucker Band and others.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 178: This Podcast: A Refuge for Inspiration and Recharging
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16:48In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce put the spotlight on OD/HR practitioners and their role helping organizations navigate these exhilarating but terrifying times. Institutions, governments, and people worldwide are being challenged in ways not seen before. What can organizational development and HR people do help their companies thrive in these times? A…
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Episode 177: Bittersweet Tidings: The paradox of Holiday Cheer
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26:27In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce talk about the emotional highs and lows that surround the holidays. At a time when people feel compelled to be joyful, the holidays can also be a profoundly sad time. Today, we explore the power of expressing both the negative and positive emotions on any given situation or topic. We use the context of the holidays but…
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Vinyl Vault - 18-12-2024 - The Annual Vinyl Vault Christmas show
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55:25The Annual Vinyl Vault Christmas show.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 176: Honoring OD/HR: The Legacy We Leave Behind
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22:48In today’s episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss the impact OD/HR practitioners have shaping culture and transforming organizations. The spotlight, much to her chagrin, is on Joyce and her impact first at Central Maine Power, and later at Hannaford and Delhaize. It underscores the importance of what great leaders do – drive positive change while focusing on …
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Episode 175: Workplace Connection – The Cure for Loneliness
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20:51In this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss why building community and connection in the workplace should be every leader’s responsibility. Research shows that the loneliness crisis is worsening as people are feel more isolated and marginalized. When this is prevalent in the workplace, overall morale, productivity, and safety suffer. The opportunity for HR…
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Episode 174: DEI 2.0: Reinventing Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
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24:44In this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on the recent trend of abandoning DEI programs in organizations and institutions. Companies that once were the champions of making all voices heard and valued, are tiptoeing, and in some instances, running away from their diversity initiatives. Spoiler alert – we think this is ill-advised and harmful. There are many…
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Vinyl Vault - 04-12-2024 - The St Andrews Day Show
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55:05The St Andrews Day Show - Some great Scottish tracks from the likes of Frankie Miller, Runrig, Simple Minds, The Waterboys and many more.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 173: TeamSpeak: Unlocking Potential Through Dialogue
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19:35In this episode, Bob’nJoyce discussed the power of guided dialogue for jumpstarting a team. This is a non-linear approach where new or struggling teams get together and use the power of dialogue to open up new possibilities and build trust. In HR/OD, some of our most important work involves getting teams and organizations unstuck. This inquiry meth…
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Vinyl Vault - 20-11-2024 - News Of The World by Queen
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53:47Some great songs from a great album and also Jimi Hendrix, Gary Moore, Allman Brothers Band, Tedeschi Trucks Band, Bob Seger and Frankie Miller.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 172: What Keeps Us ‘All In’ Despite Life’s Curveballs
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23:19In this episode, Bob’nJoyce muse about the paradox of being 'all in.' With the world in disarray, many consider withdrawing and checking out but more often than not end up choosing engagement and purpose. So what is going on here? Being all in requires discipline and commitment to weather the tough patches. There is an expression that most of us st…
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In this episode, Bob’nJoyce muse on the X factor in why some leaders excel and thrive. The context is today’s podcast was recorded on November 5th, America’s election day and a new leader will be chosen. By the time you read this, we all will know the results and hopefully, what we shared will make sense of why either Trump or Harris won. My bet is…
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Vinyl Vault - 06-11-2024 - Tonight's featured LP is Exodus by Bob Marley & The Wailers
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56:05Tonight's featured LP is Exodus by Bob Marley & The Wailers - Some great tunes from Bob Marley as well as UB40, Inner Circle, Misty in Roots, Herbs, The Specials, The Beat, Katchafire and Madness.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 170: Getting Unstuck When Rules & Norms No Longer Apply
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25:42In this Episode, exactly one week before the U.S. elections, Bob’nJoyce take on the timely topic of getting unstuck when uncertainty and anxiety run rampant. As a country, we are trying to figure out how to move forward post-election despite half of the country being disappointed and angry. The same is true when a business is suddenly disrupted and…
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Vinyl Vault - 23-10-2024 - Tonights featured LP is His Band & The Street Choir by Van Morrison
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56:04Tonights featured LP is His Band & The Street Choir by Van Morrison - Some great tunes from Van as well as Bob Dylan, Joe Cocker, CCR, Peter Gabriel, Ted Hawkins, Eddie Low and many others.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 169: What Makes a Great CEO? (It's Not What You May Think)
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23:28In this episode, Joyce shares the characteristics and unique qualities of high performing CEOs she has worked with over her career. Again, Joyce reaches into her treasure chest of written reflections and makes them available to you, our valued listeners. Her observations are anything but your typical list of traits or rigid leadership models. What …
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Vinyl Vault - 09-10-2024 - Magical Mystery Tour - The Beatles
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55:10Tonight's featured LP is Magical Mystery Tour by The Beatles - Some great tracks from one of the greatest albums of all time. Also hearing from The Kinks, The Rolling Stones, Lulu, Nina Simone, Aretha Franklin, The Small Faces, Stevie Wonder and Oasis.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 168: A Conversation with Corey Spitzer – Humble Start-up Guru & Sausage Maker
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37:14In this episode, Bob’nJoyce interview Corey Spitzer - serial entrepreneur, IT expert, start-up guru, and business change agent. Corey is a fractional CTO who helps clients solve the thorniest of product development and business growth challenges. He describes himself as an interpreter of sorts helping tech and business development people communicat…
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Episode 167: Lessons from Fender Bender Entrepreneurs
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28:50In this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss how a network of auto repair tradespeople loosely organize as entrepreneurs to provide value and quality. There are a lot of ideas and lessons to be gleaned from this entrepreneurial innovation - think outsourcing done where everyone, especially the customer, wins. What can the rest of us learn from their example…
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Vinyl Vault - 25-09-2024 - A celebration of Funk music
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56:08A celebration of Funk music - Some great songs from the Funk genre including Stevie Wonder, The Commodores, Isaac Hayes, Marvin Gaye, War, Average White Band and many others.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 166: The Antidote to Dull Thinking
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27:18In this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss ways to unleash our best thinking when feeling stuck. We share concrete ideas to go from linear to lateral thinking that gets the creative juices following. In a world where dull thinking is way too common, these simple but effective ideas promote creativity and new thinking. You will get: Meeting check-ins that …
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Vinyl Vault - 11-09-2024 - Tonights featured LP is A Night at the Opera by Queen
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55:21Tonights featured LP is A Night at the Opera by Queen - In memory of Freddies birthday we are featuring this record along with some John Lennon, Hawkwind, Bruce Springsteen, Jimi Hendrix and Blind Faith.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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In this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss CEO flaws and flubs they observed while working with them. CEO’s are human and therefore imperfect. The good news is that those we worked with possessed strengths that offset their shortcomings. Come listen and assess which flaws you may have. Some of the flaws they observed include: Failure to stay disciplined a…
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Vinyl Vault - 28-08-2024 - The Power Blues Show
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55:25The Power Blues Show - Some amped up, loud blues classics from George Thorogood, Gary Moore, Jimi Hendrix, The Rolling Stones and many others.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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Episode 164: Getting from Checked Out to All In
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19:29In this episode, Bob’nJoyce address the challenge of moving from personal or organizational lethargy to vitality. Good leaders can sense the pulse of an organization and find ways to move the needle on the cultural vibe. So the question becomes how do you engage employees in order to make the shift? Here are a couple of areas we mused on: Respondin…
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In this episode, Bob’nJoyce muse on the merits and limitations of setting goals. Goal setting can both energize and move you to action but can also discourage and demotivate. It begs the question as to how you accomplish the former and avoid the latter. This topic is timely given the 2024 Paris Olympics and the stories athletes share about how they…
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Vinyl Vault - 14-08-2024 - The annual Vinyl Vault salute to Country music show
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54:40The annual Vinyl Vault salute to Country music show - Some great tracks from the Country genre from the likes of The Byrds, Sturgill Simpson, Jamey Johnson, Johnny Cash, Chris Stapleton, Gram Parsons and many others.Broadcast on OAR 105.4FM Dunedin www.oar.org.nz
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