Welcome to our podcast, Conversations about Consultation. This is a series of digital audio files, made with a wide range of guests who have been generous enough to share their thinking on the topic of consultation in education. Our aim is to provide thought-provoking and engaging content that you can access at times and in places convenient to you, growing out of our shared interest in consultation. Emma teaches a module on consultation as part of the doctoral training in Child, Community, ...
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Feeling seen and bringing the 'storied self' into consultation - Dr Michael O'Loughlin
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1:11:48After teaching for seven years in Dublin, Michael O’Loughlin earned a Ph.D. in Psychology from Columbia University in New York. He later trained as a psychoanalyst at Adelphi University on Long Island, New York. He is Professor in the College of Education and Health Sciences and in the Derner School of Psychology at Adelphi University. He teaches c…
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An introduction to our new co-host - Bethanie Atinuke Sonola
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13:30We're meeting with Bethanie Atinuke Sonola, year 2 trainee Educational Psychologist completing her doctorate at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust. This short episode is to say a big welcome to Bethanie. We learn about Bethanie and her journey into training and share are some of the things that she hopes the podcast will explore during …
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A multicultural, gender, and sexually diverse affirming consultation framework - Dr Jeffrey Brown and Starr Greensky
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1:06:46We are so lucky to have with us Dr Jeffrey Brown and Starr Greensky. Jeff is currently an assistant professor at San Diego State University, on the School Psychology Program and Starr is a Student and School Psychology intern, working with Jeff. We speak with Jeff and Starr about the development and application of Jeff's and other colleagues multic…
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Children and young people’s participation in consultation - Dr Anwen J Marshall
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49:57Dr Anwen Marshall graduated as an Educational Psychologist from Bristol University in 2021. She currently works in Bristol City Council where she also holds the role of ‘person-centred champion’. She supports person-centred work in her service and with colleagues. Before training as an Educational Psychologist (EP), Anwen worked as an Assistant EP …
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Reflecting on school culture and collaboration with school leaders and staff members - Laleh Laverick
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1:14:26We were so privileged to speak with Laleh Laverick in this episode about such a range of important factors influencing schools at the moment. Laleh speaks from a wealth of expertise and experience from her role as a Leadership and Management Adviser at Hackney Education as well as the various roles she has held in inner city primary schools for ove…
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Instructional Consultation and Teacher Satisfaction - Dr Lauren Kaiser
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1:03:28Today we are so privileged to have with us Dr Lauren Kaiser, PhD, NCSP is a Nationally Certified School Psychologist (NCSP). Currently, Dr. Kaiser is an Associate Professor and Program Coordinator for the School Psychology Graduate Program in the Psychology Department at Millersville University near Lancaster, Pennsylvania, in the United States. Sh…
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Influences on Consultation: Attunement, Culture & Social Justice - Dr Esther Kuria and Dr Catherine Kelly
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1:16:12We are so lucky to have spoken with Dr Catherine Kelly and Dr Esther Kambe Kuria about their recent publication on social justice in Educational Psychology in Practice. Catherine is an Assistant Director for the Doctorate in Educational and Child Psychology at the University of Manchester and an Educational Psychology for Bury Metropolitan Borough …
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Implementation Science and Social Justice in Consultation - Dr Mel Collier-Meek
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1:09:54Dr. Collier-Meek is a licensed psychologist and Board Certified Behaviour Analyst. She is currently an Associate Professor of School Psychology at Teachers College, Columbia University. She also serves as an Associate Editor for School Psychology and provides reviews to several journals, for which she has been twice honoured as reviewer of the year…
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Psychoanalytic Concepts in Consultation - Dr Dale Bartle and Dr Xavier Eloquin
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1:10:06In this episode we were honoured to speak with Dr Dale Bartle and Dr Xavier Eloquin, two of the three editors of the "Learning from the Unconscious" book which explores Psychoanalytic Approaches in Educational Psychology. We thoroughly enjoyed speaking with Dale and Xavier and we hope that this episode stimulates curiosity and reflections about con…
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Trainees creating cultural change - Dr Jason Apaloo-Shonibare, Dr Hannah Morgan & Dr Yasmin Francis
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58:16In this episode with speak with someone of the co-founders for the trainee led initiative TEPICC, which stands for the trainee initiative for cultural change. We were very lucky to speak with Jason, Hannah and Yasmin who all co-founded TEPICC along with Mickel Johnson, who was sadly unavailable to record the episode. Jason, Hannah and Yasmin all co…
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A framework for developing consultation practice - Dr Louise Jones and Dr Cathy Atkinson
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1:00:22In this episode we were honoured to speak with Cathy and Louise about their recent publication regarding a framework for developing consultation practice. Dr Cathy Atkinson is the curriculum director of the initial doctoral programme for educational psychology training at the University of Manchester and Dr Louise Jones is a Lead Specialist Educati…
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Relationship building and objectivity loss - Dr Cyril Pickering
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58:32Dr Cyril Pickering is a school psychologist who currently lives and works in Washington, DC. He received his Masters and PhD from the School Psychology program at the University of Maryland. Cyril was a contributor to the book "Becoming a School Consultant", which reflects on the experiences of consultation trainees as they learn the craft. His cha…
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Teaching, learning and supervision of consultation - Dr Daniel Newman
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1:00:44On this episode we were honoured to have with us Dr Daniel Newman, who is currently an Associate Professor on the School Psychology Program at the University of Cincinnati. Among several professional service roles, Dr. Newman is also the current editor of the Journal of Educational and Psychological Consultation. We touch on his research on teachin…
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Working towards culturally responsive EP practice - Dr Ellie Sakata
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51:53Dr Ellie Sakata graduated from the Educational Psychology doctorate from Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust in 2021 and is now working as a qualified Educational Psychologist at Hertfordshire County Council. In this episode, we explore Ellie's thesis which looks at Culturally Responsive Practice in EP work and the the self-reflective framew…
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Motivational talk in consultation - Dr Grace Giles
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51:54Dr Grace Giles graduated from the ed psych doctorate at Nottingham University in 2020 and is now working as a qualified EP at Sandwell Educational and Child Psychology Service. Grace did her thesis looking at the intersection of Motivational Interviewing and Consultation and her thesis title is 'Using sequence analysis to explore the role of motiva…
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Dynamic assessment in EP practice - Dr Rachael Green
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55:56We're exited to be speaking with Dr Rachael Green, a passionate and experienced Educational Psychologist who speaks with us about using Dynamic Assessment (DA) in EP practice. Rachael has spent over 17 years training and supervising trainee EPs and has worked in a number of local authorities over the span of her longstanding career. She is now curr…
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Working with organisations and creating change - Helen Shaw
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50:08Today we speak with Helen Shaw, an experienced Organisational Consultant. Touching on social defences, group dynamics and the importance of collaboration and boundaries, she raises curiosity of what might be happening for schools/organisations. It was a pleasure to be apart of this thought provoking discussion around taking a systems psychodynamic …
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Exploring teachers emotions, group consultation and narrative work with adolescents - Shaalan Farouk
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39:02Today we are speaking with Professor. Shaalan Farouk a senior lecturer at New York University in Abu Dhabi. Shaalan previously worked as an Educational Psychologist in London for over 20 years. He completed his PhD in Organisational Psychology at Birkbeck College, University of London. Shaalan’s publications on group process consultation and teache…
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An introduction to our new co-host - Jessica Rowley, Emily Crosby and Zahra Ahmed
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13:16We're meeting with Zahra Ahmed a year 2 trainee Educational Psychologist completing her doctorate at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust. This short episode sadly says goodbye to two of our talented and loved co-hosts and a big welcome to Zahra. We share are some of the things that we hope the podcast will continue to explore and discuss…
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Teleconsultation in psychology - Aaron Fischer
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1:05:16Today we are speaking with Professor. Aaron Fischer, a licensed psychologist and board certified behaviour analyst. He is also dee-endowed professor of school psychology and adjunct assistant professor of psychiatry at the University of Utah. He is also director of the Huntsman Mental Health Institute Home programme interdisciplinary paediatric fee…
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Noticing, paying attention and creating spaces for feelings - A psychodynamically-informed social work contribution to consultation - Robin Solomon
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1:05:00In this episode we speak with Robin Solomon - an esteemed consultant social worker from The Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust. Robin currently works in the fostering adoption and kinship care team and before this worked for 16 years as a senior lecturer at Brunel University, where she taught Child Care Social Work at graduate and postgradu…
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Exploring the effective features of consultation and how we measure them - Paddy Langford
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1:04:23In this episode we speak with Patrick Langford, a now newly qualified EP from the Institute of Eductation, who completed his thesis exploring what makes consultation effective in EP practice. We talk about all things consultation, particularly thinking about the application of consultation theory to practice and a consideration of what consultation…
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Preparing consultees to consult and providing culturally responsive consultation: Forty years of practice, training and research - Antoinette Miranda
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1:22:53In this episode we speak with Professor Antoinette Miranda from Ohio State University. Antoinette is a professor of School Psychology in the Department of Educational Studies at Ohio State and has several research areas of interest and publications in these areas including thinking about effective interventions with at-risk children in urban settin…
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Valuing International Dialogues in Consultation: Eco-systems as a thread throughout - Ingrid Hylander and Sharone Maital
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1:28:45We are really delighted and exited today to be speaking with Sharone Maital and Ingrid Hylander. Emma met both Sharone and Ingrid through the International School Psychology Association conference, or ISPA for short, where they were both co-chairs of the consultee centred consultation task-force which is part of ISPA. Both have had a long involveme…
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Relationships, communication and influence in consultation with Professor Bill Erchul
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1:33:20Hi, welcome to this episode of conversations about consultation. In this episode we speak with Professor Bill Erchul from North Carolina state university. Bill has had a 36 year career as a trainer of school psychologists in the states and has a strong research record in consultation including co-editing a volume with Susan Sheridan in relation to …
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Reflections on 30 years of Patsy Wagner’s Consultation Model - Helen Kerslake and Jane Roller
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1:15:30In this episode we speak with Helen Kerslake and Jane Roller from Westminster Kensington and Chelsea Educational psychology consultation service about their journey to becoming EPs and their experience of working in a service that places consultation at the centre of the work they do. It was so interesting to speak with Helen and Jane about their s…
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An Introduction to Conversations about Consultation - Jessica Rowley, Emily Crosby and Emma Kennedy
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58:13In this introductory episode Emma speaks in conversation with myself and Emily about our routes onto the doctorate in educational psychology training programme, where our keen interest in consultation in EP practice started, our vision for this podcast and our thoughts on some of the current issues and debates in the field of consultation. Resource…
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