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Edge of the Couch

Jordan Pickell and Alison McCleary

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Two good friends and experienced therapists explore the topics that were either shied away from or dismissed because they were too big, too nuanced, too risky, or too uncomfortable to address in school or even in supervision. We want to inspire and encourage therapists to think more deeply, show up more fully, and find humour and self-compassion in navigating the messier parts of being a therapist.
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Happiness in Progress

Danielle Craig

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An Emmy-award winning journalist hosts Happiness in Progress. You'll hear from some incredibly inspiring people and get motivation each episode to better your life and find your own happiness.
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Are therapists who "call out" their clients more effective? This week, we’re responding to a Reddit post from a therapist who proudly claims to be a "mean therapist". They describe themselves as solution-focused, direct, and not afraid to hold clients accountable. We unpack what might be behind that identity, what types of therapists and settings t…
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All therapists miss essential information-- things like self-harm, abuse, and disordered eating. These can have major consequences. In this episode, we discuss what gets missed in the therapy room, why it happens, and what we can do about it. From clients showing up drunk in session to disclosures that slip past us, we explore the kinds of clinical…
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In this episode, we’re talking about a dynamic that (dare we say) all therapists are familiar with: working with clients who over-intellectualize. We explore why some clients show up to therapy in their heads while disconnected to their bodies and emotions, and how intellectualizing is both foundational and a block to good therapeutic work. We talk…
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Are we "treating" our clients, as in doing something *to* them, or *with* them? In this episode, we dig into situations where therapy aligns more closely with a medical model, and how we prefer to work using an open-ended approach. We discuss why therapy isn't always/only about alleviating suffering, but changing their relationship with it. You'll …
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Social media is one of the most impactful frontiers for therapists right now. So many questions are coming up for therapists at this time-- should I have social media at all? Should I market on social media? How much is too much to share? The internet is forever - what does that mean for me putting parts of my life online? In this episode, we discu…
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"Although we may not remember what happned, the nervous system remembers how it felt." - Britt Piper Brittany Piper is an internationally renowned speaker, author, Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner, author of Body-First Healing: A Revolutionary Guide to Nervous System Recovery and expert in sexual violence prevention and trauma-informed care. Over…
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Every therapist has been there. You’re in session and suddenly something your client says hits a nerve. Maybe it’s a detail in their story that pulls up your own history or something about their client presentation you can't quite put your finger on. In this episode, we dig into what happens when something comes up in session that feels like being …
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Rickson Gracie is the New York Times bestselling author of Breathe. A member of the most prominent martial arts family, he entered his first Jiu Jitsu competition at the age of six. By the age of fifteen he was teaching his family’s martial art. Now, after almost two decades of fighting, Gracie is facing a new challenge, a Parkinson's diagnosis. To…
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Supervision and consultation are a core part of being a therapist, whether in practicum, newly graduated, or a decade into practice (and beyond). In this episode, we discuss how to get the most out of supervision, like bringing a list, not fixating on every misstep, and sharing the messy parts of your work, ensuring that any supervision conversatio…
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Mory is a sought-after Intuitive Life & Leadership coach and the Founder of Eight22 Group, a consultancy that helps organizations elevate their consciousness. After a notable career as a crisis manager for Fortune 500 companies, Mory realized many leaders fail because they are disconnected from their intuition and purpose. As an Intuitive Coach, Mo…
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Trends in the therapy world come and go. Girl-bossing, therapists-as-content-creators, and now “the cool therapist”. Maybe you’ve seen the same “cool therapist” stuff we have - acting like new therapists are scared of everything, making skits or memes about disregarding ethical considerations, and acting like following thoughtful rules is somehow s…
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This is the most intense political landscape that we’ve ever experienced as therapists. Many of our clients are also hugely impacted by policies being enacted and fear is a common feeling for both therapists and clients alike. The focus of the episode is how to talk to clients about politics when it comes up in session because we know it can feel s…
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What happens when a client expects therapy to “fix” them or assumes their therapist will always have the wise, perfect answer? In this episode, we explore how to set realistic expectations around the therapy process, the therapist’s role, and how change actually happens. How do we balance validating our clients’ hopes while grounding them in what t…
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We’re so happy to be back after our holiday hiatus. We're starting the new season with a highly requested topic-- opening a private practice. Since we graduated, the landscape of the counselling field has changed tremendously. More and more clinicians are opening their own practices right after graduating and we know that can be extremely anxiety-p…
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In this episode, we dive deep into the powerful connection between our emotions and the stories we tell ourselves. When intense emotions arise—whether it's fear, self-doubt, or shame—they often come with narratives that shape how we see ourselves and our world. But here's where the power comes in - realizing those stories aren't true. In this episo…
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In this episode, Danielle sits down with Stephanie Barron Hall - an Enneagram expert and author of the new book, Enneagram in Real Life. Danielle and Stephanie talk about how the powerful tool of the Enneagram has the potential to transform our relationships and communication. In this episode, you’ll learn: What the Enneagram is. A breakdown of all…
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Jennifer Jiménez is Founder of the Health & Well-Being Division at Brave Thinking Institute, as well as a highly sought-after speaker, consultant, trainer and coach. Through her transformational retreats, workshops and cutting-edge Vibrant Healthy Woman Program, Jennifer has coached thousands worldwide to become more confident, healthy, joyful, abu…
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This week on Happiness in Progress, I had the privilege of sitting down with Jordan Pickell to dive into a topic that resonates deeply during the holiday season—boundaries. Jordan is a trauma and relationship therapist. She helps people use self-exploration and boundaries to disrupt generaitonal patterns. She also hosts a holiday boundaries worksho…
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In this episode, I sat down with Rachel Marie Martin, author of Get Your Spark Back, to explore her personal journey of rediscovering joy and authenticity. Rachel shared powerful insights on overcoming life's unexpected challenges and embracing your unique story. Rachel is the writer behind the site FindingJoy.net and author of both Mom Enough and …
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This week on the Happiness in Progress podcast, Danielle Craig sits down with Brooke DeBoer—author of Living the Free Life and life coach—to discuss her transformative journey of healing from bullying and traumatic relationships. Brooke opens up about the challenges she faced and the steps she took to reconnect with her inner voice and find freedom…
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In this episode of Happiness in Progress, I’m joined by the incredible Alea Lovely, host of the Spiritual Sh*t podcast and author of The Meaningful Manifestation Method. Alea is a spiritual teacher and intuitive empath who has helped countless people reconnect with their authentic desires and heal the limiting beliefs holding them back. Together, w…
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In this episode, Danielle Craig sits down with manifestation expert Tammy Mastroberte to discuss the power of “higher help” in manifesting your desires and the importance of slowing down to recognize signs that guide you along the way. Tammy explains how connecting with a higher source—whether it’s the universe, God, or your inner wisdom—can amplif…
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Thank you to everyone who joined us at the Being a Therapist in 2024 conference at the beautiful Jane Headquarters in North Vancouver. In this special episode, we dive into questions from the audience about niching, overcoming imposter syndrome, and working within organizations. We wrap up with messages to our younger selves, reflecting on what we …
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How can we support clients in navigating the big life decisions, including to stay or leave relationships, choose career paths, or family planning? In this episode, we explore the therapeutic role of discernment. Often, people are grappling with the pros and cons of each choice. Some of these conversations are vital and productive, and other times,…
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Content note: This episode discusses suicide and abuse. Are therapists crisis workers? We believe that the role of the therapist and the role of the crisis worker are distinct, yet, in certain situations, we can still find ourselves pulled into that role. In this episode, we break down the crucial differences between emergencies, crises, and genera…
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Did you hear the phrase “follow the client” in graduate school and wonder what it really means in practice? In this episode, we dive into the nuances of this concept, exploring how therapists balance the art of staying present with the client’s story while holding the bigger picture in mind. We talk about how goals in therapy can shift over time an…
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Have you heard the phrase 'The worst person you know has a therapist encouraging and validating their behaviour'? In this episode, we tackle a tricky line in therapy-- when compassion tips into complicity in a client's harmful, toxic, or otherwise unkind behaviour. We talk about the skill and risk involved in calling clients in when they’re not act…
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Join us on Patreon for bonus content at www.patreon.com/edgeofthecouch or share your thoughts and questions via DM on Instagram @edgeofthecouchpod, email at [email protected], or voice note at speakpipe.com/edgeofthecouch. We have partnered with Janeapp, an all-in-one practice management software. You can learn more at Jane.app/mentalhealt…
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In this special episode, we watch and react to our first recording together, before Edge of the Couch, an unpublished episode of a podcast that would never be: 'Reel Therapy Talk' where we would talk about pop culture from the perspective of therapists. On April 6, 2020, we recorded our first and only episode. Love is Blind was having a cultural mo…
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Breaking a habit is hard. If you haven't added a habit yet, go check out adding habits in the last HIP Habit mini-episode. If you're ready for a challenge, let's dig in. Several authors, including Charles Duhigg and James Clear, teach us about the habit loop. In this episode, learn how the habit loop is impacting your daily choices. Once you unders…
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"Living life without my eyesight, every day that I wake up I'm tapping into a certain level of trust in myself. I have to trust that I'm going in the right direction. I have to trust that as I put one foot in front of the other, I am in fact getting to where I need to go." - Lex Gillette Lex Gillette is a globally recognized Paralympian who compete…
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In this special episode, Bhupie Dulay and Abby Chow come on the podcast to talk about how we can rather than rely on the reductionist approach to working with clients with marginalized identities, radically reimagine what relationality looks like in relationships inside and outside the therapy room. We talk about what it means to practice hope, how…
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Often, when we want to change our health or behaviors the first thing we do is determine which habits to take out of our lives. I propose going with adding a habit instead. In this bonus episode, learn why adding a habit might be a better fit than trying to exclude habits from your life. HIP Habit mini-episodes are brought to you by the HIP Habit w…
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In this episode, we talk about the roller coaster of emotions that come with getting "dumped" by clients. We discuss the different ways clients can terminate therapy, how each one hits us differently, and the common mistakes we make that might lead to their departure. We talk about mistakes that we make that have lead to clients terminating. We als…
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Do all therapists engage in dream work, or is it more of a niche practice? We discuss what might hold newer therapists back from exploring their clients' dreams and share how we integrate dream work into our own practices. Plus, we open up about our experiences in an informal projective dream group and how it has shaped our approach as therapists. …
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Sometimes clients will come right out and tell you what they are feeling frustrated, annoyed, or concerned about. Sometimes clients may have a harder time communicating “negative” things and their frustrations may come out in passive aggressive ways. But what do we do when clients are communicating passive aggressively? Do we let the little remakes…
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In this episode, we dive into a recent trend of clients secretly or openly recording their therapy sessions. We discuss how it might feel as a therapist to discover you're being recorded and wrestle with the ethical implications surrounding this practice. We discuss the different motivations behind recording—whether it’s for memory retention, accou…
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In this episode, we dive into who is responsible for creating a sense of continuity in therapy-- the client or the therapist. We discuss the role of homework, strategic note-taking, and what you might say at the beginning or end of sessions to keep the flow going. How do you ensure each session builds on the last? Share your thoughts with us! Join …
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After receiving 4 (FOUR!!!!) emails asking about an erotic transference episode, we finally had a chance to discuss the topic. Erotic transference happens in a lot of therapeutic relationships and some theoretical orientations lean in to its exploration (think psychoanalysis), but many of us were not given any guidance about what to do when it come…
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In this episode, we tackle the misuse of therapy speak and its impact. We delve into popular buzzwords, how these terms are being used (and misused), and discuss the important role therapists can play in educating clients on their proper use and definitions. Join us on Patreon for bonus content at www.patreon.com/edgeofthecouch or share your though…
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In this episode, we explore what might be happening with clients when there is silence. Sometimes it's an awkward silence, sometimes they are contemplating what to say next or they are dissociated, and sometimes they are waiting for us to take the reigns. We share our perspectives on sitting in the silence versus breaking it, and talk about the dif…
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"It gives you permission that you don’t need the validation of other people. If you say you’re special, if you say you’re awesome - believe it." - Amy Kaufman Calling all of you who've been told you're "too much" or feel like there's something wrong with your personality. I aboslutely loved this episode with Amy. We met during an event where we bot…
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Unconditional positive regard, a concept introduced by Carl Rogers, emphasizes accepting and supporting clients without judgment regardless of what the client says or does. We have thoughts! Join us on Patreon for bonus content at www.patreon.com/edgeofthecouch or share your thoughts and questions via DM on Instagram @edgeofthecouchpod, email at co…
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"If you try to become just the same blob of people, it doesn't work. If you're trying to control the other person and you think they're trying to control you it really doesn't change people's behavior. Instead it makes people push those behaviors under ground, they become secretive, they get better at pretending like something isn't a problem. It r…
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What do you do when a client describes a traumatic experience, but then proceeds to shrug it off? In this episode, we explore what might be going on when clients dismiss what we gather are traumatic experiences. We discuss possible reasons behind this phenomenon, including denial, dissociation, or simply seeing it as common and therefore, normal an…
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Now, we don’t believe that clients can be “too emotional” but many clients come to therapy with narratives around emotion that may make them feel that they are being too much when they are emotional in session - crying is a weakness, anger is a bad emotion, I’m a cry baby, stoicism is best etc. As clinicians we have to sit with the full spectrum of…
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This week, we talk about therapist enmeshment - what it is, how it happens, and what therapists can do to ensure they have appropriate boundaries with clients. For this conversation, we’re placing the context at the feet of the therapists and exploring how some therapy practices and some therapists encourage emotional enmeshment with clients. We ta…
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We're in between seasons right now, but we feel it is long overdue to talk about Palestine and what therapists are wrestling with when it comes to speaking up about genocide in session and in public. We are taught "do no harm" but at what point is our silence more harmful than speaking out? As always, we ask for openness and curiosity as we engage …
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In this special episode, we look back at the history of our podcast, our favourite episodes, and the vulnerable things about doing the podcast. We read some recent DMs from Instagram, a one-star review, and we listen to some voice notes sent in by listeners. We recorded this one late at night (for us at least!) so we get a little loopy at the end s…
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Our penultimate episode this season explores what can happen when the content of the session tugs at all of our own shit! Maybe we’re experiencing something similar to our clients in our own lives or the client says something that reminds us of ourselves. Maybe the client experience is pulling forward memories of something we’ve said or done before…
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