Discover practical resilience strategies that transform lives. Join Steve Bisson, licensed mental health counselor, as he guides first responders, leaders, and trauma survivors through actionable insights for mental wellness and professional growth. Each week, dive deep into real conversations about grief processing, trauma recovery, and leadership development. Whether you're a first responder facing daily challenges, a leader navigating high-pressure situations, or someone on their healing ...
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The Practice of Therapy Podcast with Gordon Brewer
Gordon Brewer, MEd, LMFT: Therapist | Consultant | Writer | Speaker
This podcast is here for therapists, counselors, social workers, psychotherapists, and mental health clinicians in their practice journeys. I'm Gordon Brewer and the person behind The Practice of Therapy Blog and Website that provides tools, resources and advice for people starting, growing or expanding their private practices. The podcast will help you learn from other experts in the field to move your private practice forward to success. The Practice of Therapy Podcast is part of the Psych ...
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E.212 Beyond the Hero Complex: How Learning to Ask for Help Transforms Men's Lives
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33:38Send us a text What does authentic masculinity look like in a world that teaches boys to hide their emotions from an early age? Leadership coach Lee Povey takes us on his transformative journey from needing to be the hero in every relationship to discovering the profound power of vulnerability. Growing up with a narcissistic father who saw Lee's ac…
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Dr. Marie Fang | What’s Really Burning You Out in Private Practice? | TPOT 389
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38:37Ever find yourself staring at the ceiling at 8 PM wondering, “Was that the right intervention?” Or maybe you’re drowning in admin work, questioning if private practice is really the freedom-filled dream everyone said it would be? In this episode, Gordon sits down with Marie from Private Practice Skills—a therapist, creator, and all-around wise huma…
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E.211 Grief Never Ends: Navigating Trauma in First Responder Life
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31:41Send us a text Gordon Brewer, a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 25 years of experience, joins Steve to unpack the complex relationship between trauma, grief, and emotional resilience in the first responder community. Their conversation touches on a critical but often overlooked barrier to mental health care—the fear that therapists…
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Gary Katz | Build a Group Practice on Connection, Not Chaos | TPOT 388
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39:56🎧 Ready to Grow Your Practice Without Losing Your Soul? This Episode’s for You. In this episode, Gordon sits down with Gary Katz—psychotherapist, group practice owner, and intimacy expert—who’s scaling his business across state lines without sacrificing connection, clinical quality, or his sanity. Gary opens up about what it really takes to grow a …
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E.210 The Mental Men Return: Exploring Life After Career
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52:29Send us a text What happens when your career ends but your life continues? The Mental Men, Andy Kang, Pat Rice, Chris Gordon, Dennis Sweeney, and Bob Cherney return in this deeply personal exploration of retirement, identity, and finding purpose beyond the job that defined you. Bob Cherney, recently retired after decades as a therapist, shares his …
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Edy Nathan | Supporting Clients Through Complex Grief in Private Practice | TPOT 387
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38:34Let’s talk about grief. (I know—what a fun little opener, right?) But hang in there, because Edy Nathan doesn’t talk about grief the way most people do. There’s no clinical detachment or textbook jargon here. Edy speaks from the kind of deep, personal knowing that only comes from living it. She lost her partner at 27—a heartbreak that didn’t just s…
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E.209 Goats, Firefighters, and Philosophy: Becky Schmooke's Unconventional Path
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45:11Send us a text Strength isn't the absence of weakness—it's how we transform our challenges into growth. In this riveting conversation with leadership coach and author Becky Schmooke, we explore stoic philosophy as a misunderstood yet powerful tool for navigating life's inevitable obstacles. Becky shares her personal journey of using stoicism to ove…
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Kerry Thomas | Mood, Food, and Medicine in Private Practice | TPOT 386
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38:43What if your private practice could be a place where people stop trying to fix themselves—and start actually feeling what’s going on inside? In this powerful episode, Kerry Thomas pulls back the curtain on her 25-year journey in mental health, sharing how a personal wake-up call challenged everything she thought she knew about therapy, medication, …
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E.208 When a Father's Death Shapes Who We Become
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43:58Send us a text Bruce Wasser shares his journey of losing his father at age 15 and how this profound loss shaped his decision to become a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War and ultimately led to his 33-year teaching career. • Growing up in Seattle with his father Joe, a WWII veteran who instilled values of teamwork, equality, and communit…
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Julie Herres | Private Practice Tax Changes Ahead | TPOT 385
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39:35Let’s be honest: when someone says “Let’s talk tax law,” most of us want to fake a Wi-Fi outage and run for cover. But when Julie Herres joins The Practice of Therapy Podcast, you actually want to lean in. Somehow, she manages to make the ever-shifting sands of tax policy sound (dare we say it?) friendly — like a conversation over coffee with a rea…
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E.207 Breaking the Silence: First Responders and Mental Health
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45:22Send us a text What happens when the strongest among us need support? In this powerful conversation, Elizabeth Ecklund takes us on an extraordinary journey from fighting fires in Antarctica to fighting stigma in mental health. As someone with 15 years of experience spanning firefighting, emergency medical services, and nursing, Elizabeth brings a r…
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Dori Lewis | Should you Consider Integrating Psychedelics into Trauma Work in Private Practice? | TPOT 384
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37:13What if the path to healing trauma isn’t just through talk therapy, but through carefully guided psychedelic experiences? In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, I sit down with Dori, an experienced therapist and psychedelic facilitator, who shares her deeply informed perspective on the nuanced, responsible, and transformational use of …
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E.206 First Responder Marriages: Bridging the Gap
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44:08Send us a text Steve Bisson welcomes Cyndi Doyle, licensed professional counselor, retired police spouse, and founder of Code for Couples, to discuss the unique challenges faced by first responder relationships and strategies for building resilience. • Meeting Cyndi Doyle - licensed professional counselor specializing in first responder relationshi…
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Tamar Blue | Creating a Safer Space for Peer Support and Digital Therapy | TPOT 383
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26:22Are you ready to discover a powerful new way to support your clients—and yourself? In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, Gordon sits down with Tamar Blue, founder of MentalHappy, a revolutionary platform that empowers therapists, coaches, and mental health advocates to create secure, community-driven support groups online. Whether you…
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E.205 Healing Heroes: Trauma, Addiction, and Recovery
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54:32Send us a text The walls we build to protect ourselves from trauma can become our prisons. This powerful truth emerges as Dr. Charlie Powell returns to share groundbreaking developments with his "Healing Heroes: No Mind Left Behind" documentary, now evolving from a television series into a theatrical release scheduled for November 11th. Charlie tak…
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Steve Bisson | Let the Work Find You: Niching with First Responders Through Podcasting | TPOT 382
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40:33What Happens When the Work Finds You? Steve Bisson didn’t plan to become a go-to therapist for first responders—but sometimes, purpose arrives without a roadmap. In this episode, Steve shares how a chance encounter on a crisis team back in 1999 set off a chain of events that led to a passionate, purpose-filled career. From riding along in police cr…
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E.204 Your Badge Doesn't Make You Bulletproof With Beth Salmo
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43:46Send us a text The weight of witnessing trauma daily doesn't just disappear when the uniform comes off. For our first responders—those who run toward danger while others flee—the psychological impact accumulates silently, often with devastating consequences. Beth Salmo, licensed professional counselor and owner of Thin Line Counseling, joins us to …
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Jeremy Zug | Private Pay, Insurance, or Hybrid? Decide For Your Private Practice | TPOT 381
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42:49What if the two most important questions in your practice— 'Is this financially viable?' and 'Am I doing the work I love?' — didn’t have to compete? In this eye-opening episode, Jeremy dives deep into the strategic crossroads every private practice owner faces, especially when considering whether to take insurance, stay private pay, or explore a hy…
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E.203 Rock Bottom and Rebound: The Cocktail That Nearly Killed Me
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39:43Send us a text The journey from outward success to inner collapse—and the path back to authentic living—takes center stage in this compelling conversation with Nick Jonsson, international bestselling author and executive coach. Nick's story begins with transformation through adversity when a motorcycle accident in his twenties forced him from const…
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James Marland | Stop Trading Hours for Income: Scalable Growth in Private Practice | TPOT 380
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35:57Are you tired of the “time for dollars” trap—where every vacation, sick day, or even slow week hits your bottom line? In this episode, James Marland gets real about the burnout that comes from trading hours for income and why the solution isn’t just slapping together an online course. He dives into what it really takes to build something scalable a…
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E.202 First Responder Mental Health: Breaking the Silence
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57:06Send us a text What happens when those who run toward danger need help themselves? In this compelling conversation, host Steve Bisson sits down with Kevin Cornine, a former fire captain and battalion chief who's transitioning to a new role as a mental health counselor focused on supporting first responders. Kevin shares his powerful story of servin…
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Dr. Robyn Miller | Preparing For The Worst: Professional Wills in Private Practice | TPOT 379
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40:14What happens to our clients when we’re suddenly not there to care for them? In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Dr. Robyn Miller dives into the difficult but essential topic most therapists avoid: what happens when a therapist dies or becomes incapacitated. With compassion, clarity, and deep professional insight, Dr. Miller reveals the ethica…
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E.201 First Responders Face Their Toughest Opponent: Mental Health Stigma
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40:20Send us a text Michael Sugrue shares his powerful journey from military service to law enforcement to his medical retirement due to post-traumatic stress injury, revealing how he almost became one of the alarming first responder suicide statistics and his mission to now "smash the stigma" around mental health. • From Air Force security forces offic…
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Natalie Moore | How to Rank on Google: The Private Practice Guide to Keyword Research | TPOT 378
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53:44If you’ve ever poured your heart into writing a blog post only to hear crickets, this episode of the Practice of Therapy Podcast is for you. Natalie Moore breaks down exactly why keyword research is the non-negotiable first step to getting found online—and she does it with a dartboard metaphor you won’t forget. From picking the right phrases (think…
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E.200 Resilience Beyond Traditional Therapy: Journey Through Trauma and Recovery
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48:42Send us a text What happens when a decorated Naval Lieutenant Commander, triple-boarded physician, and healthcare executive exhausts every conventional treatment for his debilitating PTSD? Dr. Charles Powell takes us on his extraordinary journey from the frontlines of military medicine to the cutting edge of psychedelic healing. After 16 years of m…
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Jordanne Sculler | Why Every Therapist Needs Therapy: The Key to a Stronger Private Practice | TPOT 377
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35:18Tune into this episode to explore why therapists must do their own self-work to be truly effective. Jordanne shares why personal growth isn’t optional—it’s essential for providing ethical, insightful, and compassionate care. She discusses how ongoing self-reflection helps therapists navigate complex client dynamics, avoid burnout, and foster deeper…
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E.199 The Power of Self-Belief: Caren Paskel's Journey Through Grief to Growth
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41:08Send us a text Caren Paskel's journey from struggling with mental health issues to becoming a beacon of resilience and self-belief captivates from the first moment of our conversation. Her story begins at age 16 when a yoga class provided her first genuine spiritual connection—a transformative experience that would become her lifeline through depre…
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Whitney Owens | Retaining Therapists in Your Group Practice for Long-Term Success | TPOT 376
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43:21In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, host Gordon Brewer welcomes Whitney Owens, a seasoned group practice owner and consultant, to discuss the critical issue of therapist retention. Whitney shares her insights on why losing a therapist can be costly—not just financially, but in terms of client care, team morale, and overall practice …
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E.198 Therapy Uncensored: The Truth Behind Closed Doors
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19:25Send us a text Therapy has long been shrouded in mystery, leaving many to wonder what actually happens once that office door closes. Steve Bisson pulls back the curtain on these therapeutic misconceptions with refreshing candor and humor. Gone are the days of viewing therapists as perfect, emotionless professionals who maintain rigid boundaries and…
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Christy Pennison & Steph Korpal | Cultivating Joy and Intentionality in Private Practice | TPOT 375
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42:47In the fast-paced world of private practice, it’s easy to get caught up in the daily grind—managing clients, handling business operations, and juggling personal life—while neglecting the very thing that can lead to lasting success and fulfillment: reflection. But what if you had a simple, structured way to pause, recalibrate, and infuse joy into yo…
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E.197 Mental Men: Trauma, Grief, and Healing
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54:30Send us a text Trauma lies at the heart of most psychological suffering, yet our understanding of it continues to evolve. In this profound conversation with the returning "Mental Men" panel of experienced therapists, we explore how mental health treatment has transformed from psychoanalysis that sometimes minimized real trauma to approaches that ho…
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Jessica Harris | Google vs. Social Media: Where Should Therapists Focus? | TPOT 374
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29:41Many therapists pour hours into social media posts, cold outreach, and networking, hoping to attract new clients. But what if there was a more direct path to getting found? In this episode, Jessica shares how she ditched the endless content grind and unlocked the true power of Google. By optimizing her website and Google Business Profile, she becam…
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E.196 Supporting First Responders: Effective Therapy Techniques & Approaches
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1:04:43Send us a text First responders—police officers, firefighters, EMTs, paramedics, and emergency room personnel—face unique psychological stressors that extend far beyond trauma exposure. In this insightful Podcourse, I'm joined by Steve Bisson, LMHC, to explore the complexities of first responder mental health and how therapists can effectively supp…
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Dr. Brook Choulet | Marketing, Niching, and Branding—The Private Practice Essentials | TPOT 373
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29:56Many therapists and psychiatrists dream of running their own private practice—setting their own hours, choosing their clients, and working independently. But what happens when the reality doesn’t match the dream? In this episode, Dr. Choulet pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to run a successful private practice—especially one that oper…
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E.195 Religious Trauma, Professional Boundaries, and Finding Balance in Mental Health Work
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40:17Send us a text What happens when the therapist needs therapy? In this vulnerable and illuminating conversation, clinical counselor Jennifer Schrappe opens up about her personal wake-up call that forced her to confront years of self-neglect while caring for others. With over 20 years of experience in mental health and standing at the intersection of…
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Krista St-Germain | What Private Practice Clinicians Should Understand About Grief | TPOT 372
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33:03Grief isn’t just about five stages—it’s messy, personal, and ever-evolving. If you’ve ever felt like you weren’t “grieving the right way” or struggled to make sense of your emotions after loss, this episode is for you. Krista St-Germain joins us to break down the myths about grief and explore what truly helps us heal. From the Dual Process Model to…
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E.194 Navigating Growth: Insights on Therapy and Change
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15:17Send us a text In this engaging episode focused on mental health and resilience, we reflect on the evolution of our podcast as we shift towards the theme of "Finding Your Way: Resilience Development in Action." Therapy plays a crucial role in not only individual growth but also in creating strong support systems for professionals—particularly first…
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Justin Ahn | Branding Mistakes That Could Be Hurting Your Private Practice | TPOT 371
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27:20What if your brand could do more than just look good—what if it could tell a story, attract your ideal clients, and truly reflect your values? That’s exactly what Justin set out to do when he left the corporate world to launch Inflow, a branding agency dedicated to helping private practices create meaningful and impactful brand identities. From des…
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E.193 Healing Trauma Through Dance: Insights from Dance Movement Therapist Lisa Manca
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42:07Send us a text What if you could heal trauma and emotional pain through movement? Join us as dance movement therapist Lisa Manca, alongside guest co-host Courtney Romanowski, unveils the transformative power of dance therapy. Lisa brings her expertise from forensic and psychiatric settings, offering unique insights into how movement can aid persona…
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Kelley Stevens | Creating Sustainable Income in Private Practice | TPOT 370
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29:33Kelley dives deep into the growing trend of therapists exploring multiple income streams. While many dream of creating passive income, Kelley shares a powerful insight: there’s no such thing as truly passive income. She unpacks the reality of building diverse revenue sources, from group practices to online courses, workshops, and retreats. But befo…
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E.192 Breaking Free from Food and Fitness Myths With Movement And Nutrition
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40:59Send us a text Jessica Jamison returns to our studio, unfolding her transformative journey from the weight loss industry to becoming a dedicated advocate for those battling eating disorders. Her shift aligns deeply with her personal values, shedding societal expectations and embracing authenticity. Jessica's story highlights a powerful transition, …
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Deborah Richelieu | Building a Thriving Couples Therapy Private Practice | TPOT 369
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30:51When it comes to relationships, connection is everything. For Deborah Richelieu, this truth has shaped both her personal and professional life. As a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT), she has dedicated her career to helping couples navigate the complexities of relationships, communication, and emotional intimacy. Recently, Deborah sat d…
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E.191 Resilience and Grief in High-Stress Professions
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15:40Send us a text What if the very nature of your job required you to lock away grief, only for it to accumulate and weigh heavier with each call? Join us for a compelling discussion as we unravel the unique emotional landscape navigated by first responders like EMTs, paramedics, and police officers. These everyday heroes are often thrust into situati…
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Dr. Kathryn Defilippi | Boosting Productivity in Private Practice: The Power of Physical Activity | TPOT 368
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28:00In a recent episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, host Gordon Brewer sat down with Dr. Kathryn Defilippi to discuss the powerful connection between physical activity and workplace productivity. Dr. Kathryn, a dedicated runner and advocate for movement-based wellness, shared her journey into long-distance running and the profound impact it has…
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E.190 Finding Strength in Personal Stories of Healing
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32:59Send us a text In this episode, Tina Djuretic shares her transformative journey of healing from childhood trauma and toxic relationships through writing her memoir, "Finding My Sovereignty." She discusses the importance of acknowledging generational trauma, finding spiritual guidance, and the healing power of sharing one's story. • Tina’s experienc…
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Dr. Ajita Robinson | Diversifying Your Income Streams In Private Practice | TPOT 367
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40:17In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, Dr. Robinson shares her profound journey of resilience, purpose, and professional growth. From navigating personal grief and loss to becoming a trailblazer in grief education and business expansion, she offers invaluable insights for clinicians looking to make a greater impact. Dr. Robinson discus…
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E.189 Unlocking Growth: The Transformative Power of Coaching
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10:54Send us a text This episode delves into the critical distinctions between coaching and therapy, emphasizing coaching's role in fostering personal growth for professionals. Listeners gain insights on decision-making, overcoming isolation in leadership roles, and the importance of self-care through the coaching process. • Distinction between therapy …
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Dr. Carlos Garcia | The Real-World Lessons Every Private Practice Owner Needs to Hear | TPOT 366
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39:04If you're ready to embrace growth, learn from real-world trial and error, and discover how to align your practice with your core values, this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast is a must-listen. Dr. Carlos Garcia takes us behind the scenes of his inspiring journey from navigating the unknown as a new practice owner to building a thriving, v…
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E.188 Trauma Cleanup and Healing: Krista Gregg's Journey of Mental Health Advocacy and Community Support
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42:45Send us a text What happens when tragedy strikes, and who is there to pick up the pieces when the unimaginable occurs? Meet Krista Gregg, a seasoned professional in crime and trauma scene cleaning, as she unpacks her journey from the healthcare and automotive sectors to meeting the intense emotional demands of cleaning traumatic scenes. With a miss…
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Jessica Patching-Bunch | Small Shifts That Take Us To Big Impact In Private Practice | TPOT 365
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34:51In this episode of The Practice of Therapy Podcast, Jessica Patching-Bunch shared her insights on how small, intentional changes in daily habits can significantly improve mental health, stress management, and overall well-being. Through her expertise in breathwork, movement, and mind-body connection, Jessica outlined actionable steps we can take to…
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