Brian Kernighan Reflects on Unix: A History and a Memoir

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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Brian Kernighan once again joins Carter and Nathan, this time to discuss his book Unix: A History and a Memoir. Join them as Brian recounts what it was like working at Bell Labs, how it feels to have contributed so much to the world of computing, and whether or not he thinks creating a big idea like Unix is still possible!

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Brian Kernighan Reflects on Unix: A History and a Memoir

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Is DevOps a Silver Bullet? - The DevOps Handbook 54:47

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss The DevOps Handbook! Join them as they discuss the origins of DevOps, how it can transform developer organizations, and whether or not it's the silver bullet the authors paint it as! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The DevOps Handbook https://amzn.to/44tGqlX (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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One Year of Book Overflow! 39:43

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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan celebrate one year of the podcast! Join them as they reflect on what's suprised them, share some stats, and discuss which of the authors they'd most like to pair program with! ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Developing a Mental Model for AI - Thinking Like a Large Language Model by Mukund Sundararajan 1:06:35

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Thinking Like a Large Language Model by Mukund Sundararajan. Join them as they discuss the different mental models for working with AI, the art of prompt engineering, and some exciting developments in Carter's career! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Thinking Like a Large Language Model by Mukund Sundararajan https://amzn.to/466v89G (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Chasing Taillights - In The Plex by Steven Levy 1:07:11

22 days ago1:07:11

1:07:11

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the final third of In The Plex by Steven Levy! Join them as they discuss Google's decision to withdraw from China, their war with book publishers, and their struggles to compete in social media! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- In The Plex by Steven Levy https://amzn.to/3T2I6NX (paid link) ---------------- 00:00 Intro 05:10 About the Book and Author 06:10 Initial Thoughts on the Book 11:27 The Real Story Behind Google Leaving China 20:44 Google's Moral Dilemmas Part 1 - DoubleClick & Lobbying 23:55 Riff: "Corporate Values" and Founder Mode 29:22 Google's Moral Dilemmas Part 2 - DoubleClick & Lobbying 37:59 Google's Book scanning project 42:56 Google vs Amazon's Different Approaches to Book Scanning 43:20 Innocent Arrogance - Street View and Privacy 46:40 Pirvacy and Surveillance Concerns 49:57 Epilogue: Chasing Taillights 55:53 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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How Google Created the Cloud - In The Plex by Steven Levy 1:04:29

29 days ago1:04:29

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second third of In The Plex by Steven Levy. Join them as they discuss how Google popularized the concept of cloud computing, the invention of Gmail, and more! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- In The Plex by Steven Levy https://amzn.to/3T2I6NX (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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The Origins of Google - In The Plex by Steven Levy 1:02:08

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first third of In The Plex by Steven Levy. Join them as they discuss Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Google's Stanford origins, and its impact on the world at large! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- In The Plex by Steven Levy https://amzn.to/3T2I6NX (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Making a Dent in the Universe - ReWork by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson 1:10:29

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss ReWork by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson. Join them as they each share their five favorite "proverbs" the book has to offer! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ReWork by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson https://amzn.to/43vgO7T (paid link) Grokking Concurrency by Kirill Bobrovhttps://amzn.to/4mwuAzP (paid link) Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout by Cal Newporthttps://amzn.to/43bW06q (paid link) Thinking in System by Donella H. Meadowshttps://amzn.to/43xYATl (paid link) Philosophy of Software Design by John Ousterhouthttps://amzn.to/43xYCdV (paid link) Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker (https://amzn.to/3F94ZfD (paid link) Getting Real: The smarter, faster, easier way to build a successful web application by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson https://amzn.to/3SQlakS (paid link)---------------- 00:00 Intro 01:50 About the Book and Authors 05:00 Initial Thoughts on the Book 14:20 Top 5 Favorite Chapters Discussion 15:00 Tone is in Your Fingers - Tools vs Skills 19:00 Anti-Workaholism Philosophy 22:32 Focus on What Won't Change 27:14 Make a Dent in the Universe 33:24 Interruption is the Enemy of Productivity 39:59 Go to Sleep - The Importance of Rest 46:58 Say No by Default 51:35 Welcome Obscurity - Private Launches 56:12 Scratch Your Own Itch - Build What You Need 1:01:04 How to Say You're Sorry - Proper Apologies 1:04:42 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Graduate Algorithms and Georgia Tech OMSCS 1:15:22

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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan take some time to debrief Georgia Tech's famously difficult Graduate Algorithms course, which Carter just passed! As alumni of the OMSCS program, Carter and Nathan discuss why they chose to pursue the degree, how the course has changed over time due to the improvements in LLMs, and how algorithmic thinking can benefit you as a software engineer! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Balancing Features and Systems Improvements - The Good News Factory by Kent Beck 1:04:50

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1:04:50

This week Carter and Nathan read the Kent Beck's The Good News Factory. A sequel to Tidy First?, The Good News Factory explores the economics of software and instructs tech executives on how to produce teams that are constantly delivering good news. Join them as they discuss balancing feature development and systems improvment, the economic incentives of software, and more! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- 00:00 Intro 12:23 About the Book 14:08 Thoughts on the Book 16:24 Features, Structure, Coupling, and Cohesion 33:13 Responding to Organizational Changes 42:12 3X: Explore, Expand, and Extract 56:54 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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John Ousterhout and Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin Discuss Their Software Philosophies 53:48

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Is Worse Better? - Worse is Better by Richard P. Gabriel 1:08:07

15 weeks ago1:08:07

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This week Carter and Nathan take a break from books and discuss the the seminal Worse is Better essays by Richard P. Gabriel. Join them as they how Unix and C were once perceived, tradeoffs in software design, and whether or not worse is truly better! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Worse is Better https://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html Rise of Worse is Better https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html ---------------- 00:00 Intro 01:37 About the Essays 06:18 Thoughts on the Essays 15:48 "the right thing" vs "worse is better" or MIT vs New Jersey 39:59 Usefulness: Why worse beats better 49:41 when worse is worse 57:31 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Gergely Orosz Reflects on The Software Engineer's Guidebook 1:11:28

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In this episode, Gergely Orosz joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book The Software Engineer's Guidebook. Join them as Gergely reflects on the differences between writing a book and The Pragmatic Engineer newsletter, the importance of professional networks, and the state of the hiring market today! https://www.pragmaticengineer.com/ -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Software Engineer's Guidebook https://amzn.to/41AxMAL (Paid Link) Thinking in Systems by Donella H. Meadows https://amzn.to/4kGtmkI (Paid Link) Tidy First?: A Personal Exercise in Empirical Software Design by Kent Beck https://amzn.to/4bHoNCv (Paid Link) Become an Effective Software Engineering Manager: How to Be the Leader Your Development Team Needs by Dr. James Stanier https://amzn.to/4kCzvhD (Paid Link) The Engineering Executive's Primer: Impactful Technical Leadership by Will Larsonhttps://amzn.to/4hpRDIS (Paid Link) ---------------- 00:00 Intro 02:11 What inspired you to write the book? 08:46 Gaining the Vocabulary and learning on your own 13:45 Writing a Newsletter vs Writing a Book 22:55 Taking initiative and Embracing Curiosity 35:30 Working Remotely and Cultivating Connections 41:13 Periodic Effort: Stretching, Executing, and Coasting 46:41 Navigating Company Cultures 50:05 The Future of Interviews: AI Cheating and the end of the Remote Interviews 58:33 How the job market has changed 01:05:10 Closing Thoughts Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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More on System Design Interviews - System Design Interview by Alex Xu 53:50

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53:50

This week Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of System Design Interview by Alex Xu. Join them as they discuss how system design interviews prepare you for daily work, what system design questions they've been asked in the past, and their thoughts on Apple Intelligence! Byte Byte Go: https://bytebytego.com/ -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- System Design Interview by Alex Xu https://amzn.to/4iUR9vg (paid link) ----- 00:00 Intro 03:30 Thoughts on the Book 14:01 Nathan's Favorite Case Study and Thoughts on Take-Home Problems 21:23 non sequitur: Applying for Jobs, Recruiters, and Compensation 36:03 non sequitur: roasting Apple on how bad Siri is right now. 41:57 Carter's favorite case study and New books for the backlog 49:07 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Carson Gross (Creator of HTMX) Reflects on Hypermedia Systems 1:05:59

18 weeks ago1:05:59

1:05:59

In this episode, Carson Gross joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Hypermedia Systems Join them as Carson reflects on the process of publishing the book, the development of HTMX, and how to deal with setbacks! John Ousterhout and Bob Martin Conversationhttps://github.com/johnousterhout/aposd-vs-clean-code Fixi.js (a new project from Carson Gross)https://github.com/bigskysoftware/fixi Triptych - New Attributes for HTML https://github.com/alexpetros/triptychHTMXhttps://htmx.org/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------Hypermedia Systemshttps://amzn.to/4iou43T (Paid Link)Philosophy of Software Design by John Ousterhouthttps://amzn.to/4bEVMHp (Paid Link) The Master and Margarita: 50th-Anniversary Edition by Mikhail Bulgakov https://amzn.to/3R1pzR3 (Paid Link) Worse is Better (essay)https://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html No Silver Bullet https://worrydream.com/refs/Brooks_1986_-_No_Silver_Bullet.pdf---------------- 00:00 Intro 01:47 What Inspired you to write Hypermedia Systems 07:37 Challenging Assumptions, Hypermedia, Javascript, and Worse is Better 13:51 Roy Fielding, REST, HATEOAS and mispronouncing things. 16:15 What is the most surprising outcome of writing Hypermedia Systems? 19:42 Creating fixi.js 28:32 Discussing Progressive Enhancement, Triptych, and Browser Standards 35:40 Dealing with Setbacks and Success 41:01 No Silver Bullet, and the Ousterhout and Martin debate 50:00 What if No HTMX? Hypercard 56:11 Tool chains, debuggers, and developer expectations 01:01:29 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Acing the System Design Interview - System Design Interview by Alex Xu 1:02:21

18 weeks ago1:02:21

1:02:21

This week Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of System Design Interview by Alex Xu. Join them as they discuss Alex's excellent newsletter Byte Byte Go, how systems design interviews reflect actual jobs, and what tips and tricks Alex offers to ace your interviews! Byte Byte Go: https://bytebytego.com/ -- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.----------------------------------------------------------System Design Interview – An insider's guide by Alex Xu https://amzn.to/3EXFYUa (paid link)Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Paishttps://amzn.to/4kgfH3F (paid link)---------------- 00:00 Intro 01:33 About the Book 03:08 Thoughts on the Book 11:57 What is a Systems Design Interview? 22:15 Why focus on Systems Design Interview? 27:26 Our Experience with System Design Interviews 36:09 Strategies, Approach, and Expertise 40:20 Importance of Back of the Envelope Calculations 45:39 Learning through building 57:02 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Evolving Your Software Teams - Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais 1:09:07

19 weeks ago1:09:07

1:09:07

In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais. Join them as they discuss how teams evolve, when you can tell a team might be reaching its breaking point, and what a company needs beyond the team topologies! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais https://amzn.to/4kgfH3F (paid link) ---------------- 00:00 Intro 01:26 About the Book 03:10 Thoughts on the Book 09:20 Team Interaction Modes 41:01 Changing Team Structures 01:05:04 Final Thoughts ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Building Effective Teams - Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais 1:15:13

20 weeks ago1:15:13

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first half of Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais. Join them as they discuss the four main types of teams, what teams they've worked on in the past, remote work, and more! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Team Topologies by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais https://amzn.to/4kgfH3F (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Is HTMX Right For You? - Hypermedia Systems by Gross, Stepinski, & Akşimşek 1:16:04

21 weeks ago1:16:04

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the back half of Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşek. Join them as they discuss the pros and cons of HTMX, whether or not you should choose it over a more popular framework like React, and more! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşek https://amzn.to/3C503GQ (https://amzn.to/4aDjFyD) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Make Web 1.0 Great Again! - Hypermedia Systems by Gross, Stepinski, & Akşimşek 1:10:52

23 weeks ago1:10:52

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the first 200 pages of Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşek. Join them as they discuss HTMX, an alternative to modern JavaScript front-end frameworks, and the philosophies that made Web 1.0 so powerful! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Hypermedia Systems by Carson Gross, Adam Stepinski, and Deniz Akşimşek https://amzn.to/3C503GQ (https://amzn.to/4aDjFyD) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Kent Beck Reflects on Tidy First? 1:06:26

24 weeks ago1:06:26

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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Kent Beck joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Tidy First? Join them as Kent reflects on the artistry of programming design, the importance of optionality, and how the Time Value of Money applies to software engineering! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- Tidy First? https://amzn.to/4atHiKa (Paid Link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Project Leadership & Understanding the Business - The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz 1:25:49

24 weeks ago1:25:49

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz. Join them as they discuss work/life balance, project management, and which computer science subreddits to avoid! (We're about 95% sure that Carter recorded with the wrong microphone accidentally, so his audio is a little rough this episode. Sorry!) -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz https://amzn.to/3C503GQ (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Owning Your Career - The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz 1:17:29

25 weeks ago1:17:29

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz. Join them as they discuss software engineering compensation, how to ace your performance reviews, and what "getting things done" means! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Software Engineer's Guidebook by Gergely Orosz https://amzn.to/3C503GQ (paid link) ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Guess That Quote! - Book Overflow 2024 55:12

29 weeks ago55:12

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In this season finale of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan put their memories to the test and see if they can guess which quotes come from which books! Using their custom built Book Overflow Game (game.bookoverflow.io), Carter and Nathan present themselves with a series of quotes from all the books they read and try to identify which book the quote is from! Thank you for a great 2024! We'll see you in January of 2025! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Our Top Five Books! - Book Overflow 2024 1:03:14

30 weeks ago1:03:14

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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan review their top five books of the year! Join them as they discuss their favorite books, why they cracked the top five, and their thoughts on the first year of Book Overflow! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Accountability Retrospective - Book Overflow 2024 1:21:39

31 weeks ago1:21:39

1:21:39

In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan review all the promises they made at the end of each episode when they ask each other "What will you do differently in your career as a result of having read this book?" Join them as they review every goal they set, whether or not they kept it, and what they've learned from this year of reading the best technical books in the world! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Agile, Good or Bad? - The Agile Manifesto 1:13:51

32 weeks ago1:13:51

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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss The Agile Manifesto, a free-to-read document that has greatly defined the modern software engineering landscape. Join them as they discuss its legacy, how it persists in software engineering today, and whether it was ultimately a good or bad development! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. ---------------------------------------------------------- The Agile Manifesto https://agilemanifesto.org/ ---------------- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5kj6DLCEWR5nHShlSYJI5L Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/book-overflow/id1745257325 X: https://x.com/bookoverflowpod Carter on X: https://x.com/cartermorgan Nathan's Functionally Imperative: www.functionallyimperative.com ---------------- Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving our craft by reading the best technical books in the world. Join Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups as they read and discuss a new technical book each week! The full book schedule and links to every major podcast player can be found at https://www.bookoverflow.io…

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Web App Fundamentals - The Twelve-Factor App 1:10:53

33 weeks ago1:10:53