3 AI Tools One Agency Owner Used to Scale Without Ad Spend with Jeff Vanasdal
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Scaling your agency doesn’t always require a bigger team or ad budget—it might just take smarter tools and systems. In this episode, I sit down with tech founder and agency owner Jeff Vanasdal, who built three AI-powered tools—BotMockups, ListBuilder.ai, and HelpDocs.ai—to eliminate bottlenecks, close more deals, and drive recurring revenue growth with zero ad spend.
Jeff didn’t start by building for others—he created these tools to fix his own fulfillment overwhelm. Then he scaled them. You’ll hear the story of how one hyper-personalized chatbot demo landed his first major client, launched his agency, and led to a fully systemized operation where his team now runs day-to-day without him.
We dig into building tools that sell, simplifying client acquisition, and the mindset shift from operator to CEO. If you're still in the weeds, Jeff’s story is your blueprint for scaling lean, leading with clarity, and creating margin to grow beyond yourself.
Connect with Jeff Vanasdal
Explore the AI tools Jeff built to help agency owners automate client acquisition and scale without ads. Follow him on Facebook or Instagram to learn more about BotMockups, ListBuilder.ai, and HelpDocs.ai.
Books Mentioned
- Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell
- Software Is Your Future (referred to as “Software as a Science” in the episode) by Dan Martell
🔗 Connect with Jeff Vanasdal
Want to see how Jeff is helping agency owners automate lead generation and scale with AI tools? Follow him on Facebook or Instagram for behind-the-scenes insight into BotMockups, ListBuilder.ai, and HelpDocs.ai.
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Chapters
1. Meet Jeff Vanosel: Serial Entrepreneur (00:00:00)
2. From Snowblower Races to Startup: Jeff’s Unlikely Funnel Origin (00:01:01)
3. Closing Deals Without Code: Early Chatbot Wins (00:04:01)
4. The BotMockup That Landed His First Big Client (00:06:26)
5. From Freelancer to Founder: Launching a Systems-First Agency (00:10:06)
6. Scaling with Productized AI: BotMockups, HelpDocs, and ListBuilder (00:14:18)
7. Getting Out of the Inbox: How Slack Transformed Client Comms (00:18:48)
8. Mindset, Margin, and Building a Business That Runs Without You (00:22:18)
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