#165 After Dark - Rebuilding Police Firearms Training w/ Chancey Pogue & Brian Stahl

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Here’s another episode coming off the annual Texas Tactical Police Officers Association Conference in Round Rock, Texas.

Today’s guests are Chancey Pogue and Brian Stahl — veteran police officers, owners of Reticence Group Training Company, and the guys leading the firearms program at a large metro law enforcement agency in Texas.

We dig into the philosophy behind their training methods, how they’re helping shift culture inside their agency, and what it really means to prepare officers for the job — not just check a box and call it “qualified.”

Chancey and Brian are the real deal — humble, capable, and leading from the front.

Enjoy this conversation and share it with your team, your agency, or anyone who needs to hear what these guys are about.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

03:43 SWAT School Takeaways

06:25 Brian’s Career Path

13:18 Chancey’s Journey In Law Enforcement

20:23 Training Challenges In Law Enforcement

39:38 Trainee Expectations & Instructor Engagement

42:12 Practical Skills Vs. Qualification

48:17 Self-Diagnosis & Growth Mindset

59:53 Real-World Accountability

01:07:29 Isolation In The Profession

01:09:24 Failure As A Training Tool

01:21:54 Competition & Performance

01:29:46 Culture Change: The Sandpaper Approach

01:36:20 Positive Training Culture

01:39:52 Recognizing & Rewarding Excellence

01:45:54 Knowledge Sharing & Networking

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