Hiring Without the Guesswork – How Data Can Transform Your Team (ft. Jason Carroll)

Just Some BS

Hiring shouldn’t feel like roulette—and yet, most companies still rely on resumes and gut instinct. In this episode, Brandon sits down with Jason Carroll, the founder of Aptive Index and a former CEO who helped scale a security company from 800 to 2,500 employees—learning the hard way what really works in hiring.

This episode is PACKED with leadership gold:

• Why resumes are outdated and often misleading
• How to use data to avoid costly hiring mistakes
• What “psychometric assessments” are and why they matter
• How Aptive Index compares to DISC, PI, and Culture Index
• What questions to ask during interviews based on personality mismatches
• The role of trust, onboarding, and adapting leadership styles to your people
• Why ignoring disengagement is as expensive as your electric bill
• Real stories from Jason’s leadership journey (including firing bad-fit clients and transforming toxic culture)
• How AI is powering next-gen hiring—and why every company should lean in

If you're tired of hiring mistakes, want to build better teams, or just love hearing two leaders geek out over people and data—this one’s for you.

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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Jason Carroll's Career Journey
02:58 Radical Growth at Champion National Security
05:47 The Evolution of Hiring Practices
08:57 Understanding Aptive Index and Its Unique Approach
12:03 The Hiring Process and Candidate Assessment
15:06 Onboarding and Employee Engagement Strategies
18:08 The Importance of Culture in Retaining Talent
21:08 Transforming Company Culture and Core Values
36:48 Navigating Client Relationships and Profitability
39:43 The Importance of Data in Hiring Decisions
42:54 Balancing Innovation and Operations
46:46 Building a Strong Company Culture
50:36 Employee Engagement and Trust in Organizations
53:00 Leveraging AI for Business Growth
01:01:09 The Future of Work and AI Integration