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In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Avins engages in a deep conversation with Paul McGillivray about the importance of automation and technology in scaling businesses. They discuss the common fears entrepreneurs face when transitioning to new tech, the signs that indicate a business has outgrown its current systems, and the concept of fixed versus evolving systems.
Paul introduces his Scope framework, which helps business leaders strategise, clarify, and optimise their processes for better efficiency and growth. The conversation emphasises the need for a mindset shift from problem-solving to creation, encouraging entrepreneurs to view challenges as puzzles with solutions.
In this conversation, we discuss the importance of prototyping in business, the mindset required for CEOs, and the significance of patience and process in achieving long-term goals. Emphasising the need for lean methodologies and the role of innovation in scaling businesses. The discussion also covers overcoming team cynicism, the distinction between AI and automation, and the future of AI as a digital workforce that can enhance productivity without replacing human jobs.
Key Takeaways
00:00 Welcome to the Grown Up Business Podcast
02:09 The Journey of Automation and Tech in Business
04:37 Understanding the Need for Change in Tech
06:01 Overcoming Fears in Tech Transition
07:00 Identifying When You've Outgrown Your Tech
10:34 Fixed vs. Evolving Systems in Business
12:26 Choosing the Right Tools for Your Business
15:14 The Culture of Change in Software Adoption
17:12 Theory of Constraints: Improving Business Processes
20:57 Identifying Key Areas for Improvement
22:51 The Scope Framework for Business Growth
26:56 Switching Mindsets: From Problem Solving to Creation
30:40 Mapping Out Your Business Journey
32:33 Optimising Processes for Efficiency
39:51 Prototyping Solutions for Business Challenges
40:19 The Philosophy of Prototyping
43:00 The CEO Mindset: Patience and Process
46:45 Lean Methodology in Business
49:56 Overcoming Team Cynicism
52:44 AI vs Automation: Understanding the Difference
01:04:01 The Future of AI and Digital Workforce
Get Paul McGillivray's Book:
Scope to Scale: Drive your business success through the power of supportive software systems
...and you feel you're ready to take your business to the next level, here's a few ways I can help you.
1.Join the ScaleUp Saturday Newsletter
Get practical tips delivered to your inbox every Saturday to help you supercharge your sales, power up your profits and transform your teams.
2.Join our FREE 'Grown Up Business Academy' on Skool:
Get access to hours of Pauls trainings in the palm of your hand on all things scaling your business to 7 figure growth
3.Book a seat at the next ScaleUp Boardroom
Spend the day with Paul at his home in Oxfordshire with 5 other powerful business owners and implement his insider strategies in just one day! You will leave with a crystal clear personalised roadmap to scale.
4.Book a free strategy call with Paul:
Book a space on Pauls calendar to talk through your business challenges and goals and leave with actionable steps and a clear idea of your next steps for growth.
27 episodes
When?
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In this episode of the Grown Up Business Podcast, host Paul Avins engages in a deep conversation with Paul McGillivray about the importance of automation and technology in scaling businesses. They discuss the common fears entrepreneurs face when transitioning to new tech, the signs that indicate a business has outgrown its current systems, and the concept of fixed versus evolving systems.
Paul introduces his Scope framework, which helps business leaders strategise, clarify, and optimise their processes for better efficiency and growth. The conversation emphasises the need for a mindset shift from problem-solving to creation, encouraging entrepreneurs to view challenges as puzzles with solutions.
In this conversation, we discuss the importance of prototyping in business, the mindset required for CEOs, and the significance of patience and process in achieving long-term goals. Emphasising the need for lean methodologies and the role of innovation in scaling businesses. The discussion also covers overcoming team cynicism, the distinction between AI and automation, and the future of AI as a digital workforce that can enhance productivity without replacing human jobs.
Key Takeaways
00:00 Welcome to the Grown Up Business Podcast
02:09 The Journey of Automation and Tech in Business
04:37 Understanding the Need for Change in Tech
06:01 Overcoming Fears in Tech Transition
07:00 Identifying When You've Outgrown Your Tech
10:34 Fixed vs. Evolving Systems in Business
12:26 Choosing the Right Tools for Your Business
15:14 The Culture of Change in Software Adoption
17:12 Theory of Constraints: Improving Business Processes
20:57 Identifying Key Areas for Improvement
22:51 The Scope Framework for Business Growth
26:56 Switching Mindsets: From Problem Solving to Creation
30:40 Mapping Out Your Business Journey
32:33 Optimising Processes for Efficiency
39:51 Prototyping Solutions for Business Challenges
40:19 The Philosophy of Prototyping
43:00 The CEO Mindset: Patience and Process
46:45 Lean Methodology in Business
49:56 Overcoming Team Cynicism
52:44 AI vs Automation: Understanding the Difference
01:04:01 The Future of AI and Digital Workforce
Get Paul McGillivray's Book:
Scope to Scale: Drive your business success through the power of supportive software systems
...and you feel you're ready to take your business to the next level, here's a few ways I can help you.
1.Join the ScaleUp Saturday Newsletter
Get practical tips delivered to your inbox every Saturday to help you supercharge your sales, power up your profits and transform your teams.
2.Join our FREE 'Grown Up Business Academy' on Skool:
Get access to hours of Pauls trainings in the palm of your hand on all things scaling your business to 7 figure growth
3.Book a seat at the next ScaleUp Boardroom
Spend the day with Paul at his home in Oxfordshire with 5 other powerful business owners and implement his insider strategies in just one day! You will leave with a crystal clear personalised roadmap to scale.
4.Book a free strategy call with Paul:
Book a space on Pauls calendar to talk through your business challenges and goals and leave with actionable steps and a clear idea of your next steps for growth.
27 episodes
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