The People Managing People podcast, hosted by David Rice, aims to inspire people leaders, managers, and HR professionals as they build the workplace of the future and develop the talent it needs to thrive. Our guests are innovators and thought leaders exploring topics ranging from technology to performance management, workplace culture and employee experience.
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Authenticity or Bust: Why Performative Values Don't Work Anymore
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23:42Kelly Meerbott, CEO of YOU: Loud and Clear, dives into the growing disconnect between the C-suite and everyday employees, exposing how middle managers become "human shock absorbers" caught between corporate pressures and workforce realities. She calls out performative leadership and urges executives to prioritize coherence over charisma, advocating…
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How Tone-Deaf Leadership Is Undermining Hybrid Work (And What to Do About It)
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27:41Many leaders still cling to outdated management styles focused on visible productivity rather than actual outcomes, despite a dramatic shift toward distributed teams. Brian Elliott, CEO of Work Forward, explains how the rise of hybrid work and AI tools highlights the need for outcomes-based management, rather than "productivity theater." Brian also…
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AI at Work: Why Businesses Need a New Playbook
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28:21Steve Cadigan, a talent advisor and former CHRO of LinkedIn, joins us to discuss the challenges and opportunities of integrating AI into today’s workplace. We explore how the AI revolution stands apart from past technological shifts due to its unpredictability and ongoing development, leaving even its creators both excited and uncertain about its f…
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Why Middle Managers Struggle—And How to Set Them Up for Success
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34:29The shift from managing individual contributors to overseeing other managers is one of the toughest transitions in leadership. Chris Williams, former Microsoft HR VP, explores why this change is so challenging and how organizations can better support these key leaders. Chris dives into the unique struggles faced by second-level managers, including …
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Workplaces have become battlegrounds for political ideologies, with DEI initiatives at the center of controversy. In this episode, host David Rice speaks with Enrique Rubio, founder of Hacking HR, about the dangers of political polarization in organizations and why leaders must take a stand. Enrique challenges listeners to move beyond acronyms and …
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The DEI Reset: What’s Changing and Why It Matters
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35:12DEI has become a polarizing topic, making it harder to have meaningful conversations about building truly inclusive workplaces. In this episode, host David Rice speaks with Amri B. Johnson, founder of Inclusion Wins, about shifting the focus from divisive debates to practical systems that create lasting change. Amri challenges traditional DEI appro…
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The Hiring Delusion: Why Companies Can’t Find the Perfect Candidate
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32:35The hiring process is broken, and both employers and job seekers are feeling the frustration. In this episode, host David Rice talks with Jessica Smith, founder and CEO of Savant Recruitment, about the unrealistic expectations plaguing talent acquisition today. From the "Goldilocks syndrome" of rejecting great candidates to drawn-out hiring process…
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How Leaders Can Foster Trust in the Face of Uncertainty
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34:59Trust is the foundation of a thriving workplace, but how do you build and sustain it in uncertain times? In this episode, host David Rice sits down with Greg Hawks, leadership trainer and creator of the Ownership Mindset, to explore practical strategies for fostering trust and accountability at work. Greg shares his "Maybe Mindset" framework for na…
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The Changing Language of Skills: Why It Matters and How to Adapt
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29:14The workplace is evolving rapidly, with one-third of job skills changing every three years. In this episode, host David Rice speaks with Cole Napper, VP of Research at Lightcast, about how AI, automation, and demographic shifts are reshaping the labor market. As blue-collar industries face worker shortages while knowledge jobs undergo disruption, o…
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From Self-Doubt to Success: The Mindset Shift Every Leader Needs
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21:59Leadership is a journey fraught with internal challenges, particularly the persistent feeling of imposter syndrome. Host David Rice talks with Nathan Tanner, former HR leader at DoorDash and LinkedIn, about overcoming imposter syndrome and breaking through leadership challenges. Nathan shares insights from his career and strategies for building con…
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How to Overcome the Challenge of a Midlife Career Pivot
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23:05Navigating a mid-career job search comes with unique challenges, from age bias to outdated hiring practices. In this episode, host David Rice sits down with career coach John Tarnoff to discuss why traditional resumes might be holding you back and how to position yourself as a valuable consultant rather than just another applicant. They explore str…
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ADP’s Guide to Employee Retention and Trust Building in 2025
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20:36How can organizations adapt to employees’ growing preference for stability? In this episode, host David Rice sits down with Ashley Avanzato, VP of HR at ADP, to explore key insights from the ADP Pay Insights report and what they mean for employee retention and engagement. They discuss the power of trust, empathetic leadership, and strategies like t…
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Why Good Leaders Matter More Than Ever: The Real Cost of 'Unbossing'
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44:23What if leadership as we know it is undergoing a radical transformation? In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Jordana Cole—Founder and Principal Consultant at Ignited—to talk about the changing hats leaders have to wear, declining interest in leadership positions, and why the idea of "unbossing" might just be a terrible idea. Related Link…
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How to Develop an Org Wide Ethical Approach to AI
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33:43AI is transforming the workplace—but how do we separate real, practical use cases from overhyped trends that don’t deliver results? And what ethical risks should we watch out for? Host David Rice talks with Jonathan Conradt—former Principal AI Scientist at Amazon and Management Board Advisor at Synerise—about AI’s real impact on HR and leadership. …
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AI’s Role in Talent, Trust, and the Future of Employee Experience
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25:15As artificial intelligence becomes the workplace norm, understanding its impact on employees and organizations is crucial. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Jeanne Meister—Global HR Consultant & Workplace Strategist—to delve into AI's role in shaping a new work environment and the importance of trust and policies in managing AI's integr…
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How to Educate Teams Around Career Growth and Compensation
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29:33In a rapidly evolving workplace landscape, the need for effective employee engagement and compensation strategies has never been more crucial. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Lindsay Clayborne—Director of People and Culture at Cardata—to share her expertise on managing employee expectations amidst economic pressures and the essential …
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Gen Z and the Workplace: Myths, Realities, and Unlocking Their Talent
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23:22Gen Z is often stereotyped within popular media, but recent research conducted by Udemy reveal a surprising contradiction to the typical narratives. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Nathan Blain—General Manager at Udemy—to debunk myths surrounding this dynamic generation. Related Links: Join the People Managing People community forum S…
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How to Build Frameworks for Skillset Development
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28:19In today's ever-evolving workplace, the skills required to thrive are constantly changing. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Roi Ben-Yehuda—CEO & Founder at NextArrow—to share his insights into the skills of the future and how businesses can develop frameworks to support their employees' growth. Related Links: Join the People Managing P…
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Detecting and Preventing Burnout with Vocal Biomarker Technology
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32:13In today's rapidly evolving workplace, the integration of advanced health technologies is transforming how we approach mental wellness and productivity. One such innovation, vocal biomarker technology, is at the forefront of this transformation. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by David Liu—CEO at Sonde Health—to delve into how our voices…
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How to Navigate Tech Overload and Foster Workplace Innovation
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26:10In today's fast-paced work environment, innovation is both a blessing and a curse. As companies strive to stay ahead, the onslaught of new technologies and tools can lead to what has been aptly termed "innovation burnout." In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Eric Athas—Deputy Editor at The New York Times—to discuss the complexities of man…
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Salary Negotiations: How to Ensure You Don’t Leave Anything on the Table
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28:40Navigating the complexities of wage negotiation can be daunting, yet crucial in ensuring you receive fair compensation for your talents. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by John Gates—Corporate Recruiting Executive, Pay Negotiation Coach, and author of Act Your Wage—to offer valuable insights into this vital process. He shares his compell…
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How to Empower Managers Through The Five Pillars of Wellbeing
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31:33In today's fast-paced corporate environment, the role of managers has become more challenging than ever before. With workforces becoming increasingly dispersed, many managers find themselves constantly juggling competing demands. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Elena Agaragimova—Talent Acquisition & Development Manager at Horizon Indu…
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How to Better Equip Gen Z for the Workplace with Leadership Lessons
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23:12In today’s fast-paced work environment, the transition from school to the professional world can be daunting, especially for Gen Z and Millennials. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Madeline Miller—Career and Leadership Coach—to explore the unique challenges faced by young professionals as they transition into the workforce, emphasizing…
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How to Create a Sense of Belonging & Use AI to Remove Bias
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17:05Can the modern workplace truly foster a sense of belonging for everyone? In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Vijay Pendakur—Keynote Speaker and Team Effectiveness Coach—to explore the critical factors that make employees feel seen, connected, proud, and supported at work. Related Links: Join the People Managing People community forum Subs…
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Top Talent Challenges & How To Overcome Them
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24:35Navigating top talent challenges requires a keen understanding of empathetic leadership and genuine Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Vijay Pendakur—Keynote Speaker and Team Effectiveness Coach—to uncover how companies can navigate the complexities of today’s talent landscape, create inclusive and…
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How to Lead Through Times of Change & Support Team Collaboration
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16:51In today’s rapidly evolving business landscape, the role of leadership is more critical than ever. Leaders are no longer just figureheads; they are the catalysts for change, the architects of growth, and the champions of collaboration. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Julie Williamson—Managing Partner & CEO at Karrikins Group—to share …
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How Leaders Can Instill a Framework for Intentional Growth
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33:01In today's fast-paced business environment, understanding and leveraging intangible assets have become crucial for sustainable success. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Claire Chandler—Author of Growth on Purpose and Executive Leadership Advisor—to bring a wealth of knowledge on intentional growth and authentic leadership, providing ac…
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How to Successfully Scale Your Organization with Little Friction
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20:34Scaling a business is often equated with rapid growth and increased productivity. While these are crucial elements, there’s a deeper, more nuanced aspect to consider: the human element. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Rob Bier—Managing Partner at Trellis Partners and Author of best-selling book "Smooth Scaling"—to discuss the intricac…
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The advent of AI is transforming the landscape of leadership in the modern workplace. As technology continues to evolve, leaders must strike a delicate balance between leveraging AI's capabilities and maintaining the irreplaceable human touch. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Christopher Lind—VP, Chief Learning Officer at ChenMed—to de…
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The Myth Of Meritocracy & How To Create An Inclusive Workplace Culture
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37:41In a rapidly evolving workplace landscape, discussions around meritocracy, diversity, equity, and inclusion have never been more critical. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Joanne Lockwood—Inclusive Culture Expert at SEE Change Happen—to delve into the pervasive myth of meritocracy and its implications in modern workplaces. Support the …
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The Pace of AI Advancement and What It Means for the Workplace
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22:08As we navigate through the ever-changing landscape of technology and work, understanding how AI intersects with our daily lives and professions has never been more critical. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Christopher Lind—VP, Chief Learning Officer at ChenMed—to offer valuable insights into how AI is reshaping work and life. Support …
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Adapting Meetings for the Hybrid Workplace
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21:44In today's evolving work environment, hybrid meetings have become a quintessential part of our professional lives. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Jean Bays—Chief People Officer at Neat—to delve into the dynamics of hybrid meetings and what employees should expect from them. Support the show…
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Should Psychedelic Therapy be Included in Workplace Wellness Initiatives?
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32:14In a world where traditional mental health treatments often fall short, could psychedelic therapies be a viable solution? In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Sherry Rais—CEO & Co-founder of Enthea—to talk about the reality of psychedelic therapies for mental health in the workplace, changing perceptions and what this actually looks like i…
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In today's rapidly changing corporate environment, understanding the intersection of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) with human capital management is critical. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Diana File—CEO & Founder of DF Analytics & Consulting—to share her invaluable insights into leveraging DEI analytics to revolutionize the…
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Managing the Talent Market Challenge and the Move to Skills Based Orgs
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25:31In a world where the dynamics of work environments are constantly evolving, the challenges of talent retention, remote work, and effective change management have become paramount for organizations. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Keri Ohlrich—CEO at Abbracci Group—to discuss these pressing issues and offer valuable insights into the c…
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Crafting Workforce Policy in the Digital Nomad Era
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34:24In the landscape of modern work environments, the rise of digital nomads represents a significant evolution in how careers and workplaces are perceived and operated. This shift has led to a new blend of workforce, mixing traditional office-bound employees with those who choose to work remotely from anywhere in the world. In this episode, host David…
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How to Build & Implement an HR Tech Stack for the Future
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30:00In an era where technology offers solutions for virtually every operational aspect of a business, the challenge often lies not in finding these solutions but in their effective implementation and integration. This is particularly true for the world of HR, where selecting and utilizing the right technology stack can significantly enhance efficiency …
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Tips for Navigating Leadership Challenges of 2024 from a CPO
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23:50In this ever-evolving world, leadership and talent management have become more complex than ever before. The impact of AI, changing skill requirements, and the need for strategic talent strategies are just a few of the challenges that leaders face today. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Felicia Shakiba—Fractional CPO at CPO Playbook—to…
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Dynamic Office Spaces For a Modern Workforce
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19:01The workplace is undergoing a significant transformation, particularly in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, which has forever altered our perception of office spaces. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Rebecca Swanner—Workplace Design Leader at HED—to talk about how to create dynamic office spaces that cater to diverse work styles. Supp…
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What Leaders Are Learning About Work In The Generative AI Era
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19:34The world of work is evolving rapidly, and at the forefront of this transformation is the integration of AI. In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Amanda Halle—HR Consultant, Founder & CEO of Mindful Growth Partners—to talk about how generative AI is reshaping the corporate landscape, particularly for women and underrepresented groups. Supp…
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How To Lead Through Good Friction And Make Work Easier
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25:49What do good leaders do? How do they motivate, create efficiencies and connect the dots to paint a clear, big picture for their employees and fellow leaders within an organization? In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Bob Sutton—Organizational Psychologist & New York Times Bestselling Author—to talk about the concept of good and bad fricti…
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An Immigrant's View Of Inclusive Leadership
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27:36Have you ever considered the hurdles that highly skilled immigrants face upon entering Canadian job markets? Ayo Owodunni, the author of "Inclusive Leadership - The Immigrant View," joins us for a deep dive into the paradox of immigrant professionals and the underutilization of their talents. Through poignant stories, including those of former high…
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How To Create A Workplace Environment That Gen Z’s Will Love
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35:07Struggling to navigate the corporate world as a Gen Z professional? In this episode, host David Rice is joined by Mei Phing Lim—Corporate Career Coach & Mentor at The Corporate Survivor™—to talk about the framework for career development, the challenges young people are facing in the workplace, and what leaders can do to create memorable workplace …
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Are Apprenticeship Programs the Answer to the Skills Gap?
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25:51Ready to have your perspectives on job training and workforce planning transformed? We're talking apprenticeships, but not as you know them. Our eye-opening conversation with Ryan Craig—Managing Director at Achieve Partners—will redefine your understanding of apprenticeships as more than mere training programs—they're actual jobs, complete with bui…
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Pass The Mic: An Interview With New Host David Rice
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22:40Meet the new host of the People Managing People podcast, David Rice! David—Senior Editor at People Managing People and a seasoned journalist in HR, DEI, and leadership—dives into how HR is changing in our tech-savvy world, especially with all the buzz around AI and remote work. David also teases upcoming episodes where he'll chat with HR, People & …
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Why Effective DEI Programs Have To Start With People First
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24:09What if your organization could foster a truly inclusive environment where every voice is heard and valued? In this episode, host Becca Banyard is joined by Dr. Randal Pinkett—Chairman and CEO at BCT Partners, LLC—to talk about the importance of putting people at the heart of diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. They'll cover the role of da…
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How To Get Out Of The Weeds Of Micro-Managing & Build Team Trust
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27:50How can managers avoid falling into the micromanagement trap, build trust, and empower their team members? In this episode, host Becca Banyard is joined by Lia Garvin—Founder & CEO at The Workplace Reframe—to talk about micromanagement, why it happens, and how to break free from its clutches. Support the show…
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DEI: Bridging The Gap Between Intention And Action
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22:38What does inclusive leadership look like? And how can we bridge the gap between intention and action? In this episode, host Becca Banyard is joined by Jennifer Fong—VP of People at Customer.io—to talk about the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion in leadership, its impact on decision making and innovation, and the challenges organization…
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Using The Predictive Index To Hire For Fit To Role
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30:28What's the secret to hiring the right people for the right role? In this episode, host Becca Banyard is joined by Traci Austin—Chief Talent Officer at Elevated Talent Consulting—to talk about what it means to be fit to role, how to strike a balance between hiring for skill fit versus culture fit, and how to utilize general cognitive ability metrics…
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How AI Can Support You Being A Great Manager
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28:12Is there a world where AI tools can be used for relationship building? To help you become a better manager or leader? In this episode, host Becca Banyard is joined by CheeTung Leong—Co-Founder at EngageRocket—to talk about how AI technology can help human resources, managers, and leaders build better human connections at work. Support the show…
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