The Ministry at Scale Podcast brings you the latest trends, interviews with experts and practical tips to help your ministry multiply it's impact. Brought to you by Five Q a digital agency with a kingdom impact. If you want to know how to grow your ministry in the digital space this podcast is for you.
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#87 - From Text to Voice: How Truth for Life is Using Voice Cloning
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16:26Featuring Sarah Sharp and Mike Costlow, Truth for Life Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. When Truth For Life wanted to turn Alistair Begg’s two-year devotional series into an audio experience, they faced a challenge: time constraints made it impossible for Alistair to voice hundreds of entries himself. In this Digital Ministry …
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#86 - Using Data to Drive Your Social Media Strategy
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26:20Featuring Chris Martin, Director of Content, Moody Global Media Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025. In this compelling session from the 2025 Digital Ministry Conference, Chris Martin—veteran digital strategist and content leader at Moody Global Media—pulls back the curtain on how ministry teams can use data not just to drive vani…
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#85 - Bible Engagement in the Digital Nations with Adam Graber
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17:08Featuring Adam Graber, Christianity Tomorrow & Co-Host of Device & Virtue Podcast Recorded live at the Digital Ministry Conference 2025 How do we saturate the digital world with Scripture? In this episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, Adam Graber unpacks findings from groundbreaking research conducted in partnership with the British and Foreign…
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#84 - The Rise of Sustainable Giving - Dave Raley with Imago Consulting
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42:41Dave Raley of Imago Consulting works with nonprofit and business leaders to help them grow revenue profitably. His mission is to help nonprofits and businesses identify and understand opportunities, develop new strategies, and launch new products and initiatives. In this episode of The Ministry of Scale podcast, Chad Williams interviews Dave whose …
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#83 - Digital Ministry Benchmarks: Key Insights from the Ministry of Skill Podcast
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9:32Josh Kashorek is the Marketing Director at Five Q, a digital marketing agency focused on helping ministries reach more people online. With over 15 years of experience in digital strategy, analytics, and marketing, Josh brings valuable expertise to this topic. In this episode, Josh shares insights from Five Q's annual Ministry Benchmark Study, analy…
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#82 - Mapping the Donor Journey with Empathy with Kedron Rhodes
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52:48Kedron Rhodes, Director of Digital Experiences at Crowe LLP, has over 25 years of expertise in optimizing customer journeys. In this insightful episode, he shares a powerful framework for enhancing donor relationships through empathetic experiences. Here are some key topics covered: Why Cultivating Donor Empathy is Crucial Kedron emphasizes the imp…
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#81 - Embracing the "Christitunity" of AI with Josh Kashorek
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13:44Josh Kashorek is the Director of Marketing at Five Q, a platform helping organizations leverage no-code tools and automation. His creative mindset and technical skills converge in an insightful perspective on how ministries can steward AI for greater impact. In this thought-provoking episode, Josh shares: The Existential Crisis Inspiring His AI Exp…
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#80 - AI Innovations Changing the Game for Churches with Josh Burnett of Church.tech
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15:21Josh Burnett is the founder of Church.tech, an AI-powered platform helping churches streamline operations and engage people more effectively. Drawing from his background in ministry and entrepreneurship, Josh brings a unique perspective on leveraging technology for greater kingdom impact. In this insightful episode, he shares: How AI Transcribes, S…
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#78 - How to Turn Your Sermons into Engaging Social Media Content with Corey Alderin
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29:38Corey Alderin is the founder of Sermon Shots, a platform that helps churches transform their full sermons into popular short-form video content for Instagram Reels, Facebook Reels, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts. In this hands-on workshop, Corey shares his expertise on leveraging AI to create thumb-stopping, engaging clips that reach people where they …
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#77 - Personalized Engagement: The Key to Spiritual Transformation with Arnie Cole
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21:49Arnie Cole is a social scientist and researcher at Back to the Bible, who has studied the spiritual lives of over 1.5 million people over the past 20 years. In this insightful episode, he challenges ministries to truly understand the spiritual state of the people they serve in order to help move them closer to Jesus. The Importance of Asking "How A…
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#76 - Leveraging AI to Increase Biblical Engagement with Andrew Rogers of BibleChat.ai
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22:02Andrew Rogers is the co-founder of BibleChat.ai, an innovative app that uses AI to help people engage more deeply with the Bible. With over 75,000 downloads and users in 188 countries, BibleChat has been pioneering the use of artificial intelligence for Christian ministry. In this insightful episode, Andrew shares: The Alarming Decline of Biblical …
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#75 - How to bring Joy to Your Donors - Jeff Kliewer of ViewSPARK
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36:57Jeff Kliewer is the founder of ViewSpark. He has worked in fundraising for over 30 years and brings much experience to this episode. Jeff has taken his experience with fundraising and, through ViewSpark, has put a powerful way to connect with your donors right at your fingertips. In this episode, Jeff shares a variety of topics, including: Why Cust…
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#74 - The Four Practices of Responseive Fundraising - Aly Hammond & Chip Johnston with Virtuous
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31:06During this talk given at the Digital Ministry Conference in 2022, Aly Hammond & Chip Johnston from Virtuous provide 8 responsive mindsets that ministries and organizations can utilize to solve some of the big problems that many non profits are facing today. Personal For All How do we treat all donors the way we treat major donors? This doesn’t mea…
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Why Conversion Tracking Matters with Anthony Elliott from Five Q
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21:09Anthony Elliot is a senior software developer at Five Q. On today’s episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, Anthony joins Chad to talk about conversion tracking and why it’s so important. For many people unfamiliar with conversion tracking, there’s one big question: what are conversions? As Anthony put it, it has similarities to a spiritual conve…
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#72 - 4 Steps to Preparing Your Ministry for Disasters with Pete Marra from Colson Center
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18:31In this session from the Digital Ministry Conference, Pete Marra, the Vice President of Innovation at the Colson Center discusses how to get started with risk mitigation for your ministry. Your Ministry is Like the Three Little Pigs In the story of the three little pigs, each pig picked different materials to build their house, one used straw, anot…
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#71 - Your Ministry and Web3, Blockchain and the Metaverse - John Cobb of Ligonier Ministries
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26:12John Cobb is the Vice President at Ligonier ministries. He started looking into Web3, Blockchain and the Metaverse simply as a way to understand what they are and how they could impact ministries going forward. What he found is that there are three main buckets he thinks ministries should be considering. The three categories are community, content …
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#70 - How to Develop a Communication Strategy - Cheryl Brunkow with Bethany International
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41:58Marketing Communications can be a critical part of your ministry. It ensures your message is presented effectively, all of your resources are consistent so you can stand out in a sea of other organizations and that your materials are engaging your audience. In this episode we speak with Cheryl Brunkow, the Marketing & Communications director at Bet…
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#64 -- The Power of Identity -- Shea Bynes with Kingdom Driven Entrepreneurs
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42:08Shae Bynes is the Chief Fire Igniter and founder of the Kingdom Driven Entrepreneur movement. On this episode of the Ministry at Scale Podcast, Chad sits down with Shae to talk about what a kingdom culture looks like and how to focus on using a kingdom approach to business. In 2009, God told Shae to quit her corporate job at IBM. She originally sta…
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#69 - Personalizing Your User's Experience with Sam Rinearson of Bott Radio Network
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24:07During his time at Bott Radio Network, the director of marketing Sam Rinearson came to speak at the Digital Ministry Conference in 2022. He taught how to personalize your user's experience in a way to build connection and to increase your number of divine appointments every day. Personalization is defined as “the process of tailoring a message or a…
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#68 - 6 Rules of Employee Engagement - Ken Coleman with Ramsey Solutions
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24:48Ken Coleman is America’s Career Coach, the #1 national bestselling author of The Proximity Principle and From Paycheck to Purpose, and host of The Ken Coleman Show. Ken helps people discover what they were born to do and provides practical steps to make their dream job a reality. During this talk given at the Digital Ministry Conference in the spri…
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#67 - Using Social to Maximize Your Reach - Chris Martin with Moody Publishers
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23:17Chris Martin is the content marketing editor at Moody Publishers. From his talk at the 2022 Digital Ministry Conference, Chris shares some practical tips for maximizing your reach using social media. Just a few years ago, it wasn’t uncommon to reach a high percentage of your followers on social media with just a single post. Reaching 50% of your fo…
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#66 - Path to Innovation - Tabitha Kapic with Chalmers Center
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27:06Tabitha Kapic is the Director of Innovation at the Chalmers center. In this talk from the 2022 Digital Ministry Conference in Nashville, she talks about design thinking and how teams can be better at innovation. Be the solution What if teams started asking the question "What do people need?" rather than "What can I give people?" Get uncomfortable D…
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#65 - Embrace the Race - Chad Williams with Five Q
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13:20On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we hear a talk given by Chad Williams from the 2022 Digital Ministry Conference held in Nashville. Chad is the founder and CEO of Five Q and gave this talk on the opening night of the conference based on the theme of the conference: Embrace the Race. Chad used the story of his son Josiah’s high scho…
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#62 - How S-O-C-I-A-L Are You? - Heather Heuman with Sweet Tea Social Marketing
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42:53Heather Heuman got her start in the digital marketing space 22 years ago. After working as a special education teacher, she switched career paths and began work at a digital marketing firm. After beginning a business of her own, she began to grow that business using her digital marketing experience and started helping other businesses do the same. …
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#60 - Growing a Global Outreach from a Local Ministry - Rick Boxx of Unconventional Business Network
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46:35For several years, Rick Boxx worked as a bank executive. After he was called to follow the Lord, his business practices began to change for the better. One instance of this was when he bid on a foreclosed house before finding out it was going to be worth much less than he initially thought. He was given the opportunity to change the agreement that …
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#59 - Ministry Metrics - Josh Kashorek of Five Q
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15:13On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we hear a talk from Josh Kashorek of 5Q. Josh gave this talk at the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference and shared about the impact that metrics can have in ministry. If we look at the story of when Jesus fed 5,000 people with only 5 loaves of bread 2 fish, we see that even with a small amount of food,…
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#058 – Learn, Grow, Go - TJ Tison from E5 Institute
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40:16Learn, Grow, Go. This is TJ Tison’s motto when it comes to helping faith-based organizations develop a culture of learning. Growing up, she always loved learning and has since found a way to help institute learning management systems for nonprofit organizations. To do this, TJ and her team use the E5 system: Engage, Establish, Equip, Empower, Expan…
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#57 - How to Get $10,000 A Month For Your Ministry - Ben Martin with Five Q
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17:06On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast, we hear a talk from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference from Ben Martin of 5Q. He shares about the Google Ads grant for nonprofits and how ministries can use this to increase engagement and clicks to their website. The Google ads grant gives the ability to run up to $10,000 in Google search ads for…
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#56 - The S.P.I.R.I.T. framework with Natchi Lazarus of Open Minds Agency
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56:11On this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast we hear from Natchi Lazarus. Natchi is the co-founder and chief consultant of Open Minds Agency and works with churches and nonprofits, teaching them how to use social media to grow their impact. Many years ago, Natchi had a life-changing experience walking down the street. He saw a series of three i…
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#55 - How to Increase Engagement by 300% - Laura Hatcher with Love Worth Finding
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14:30Many people have good intentions when it comes to downloading and consuming the content that you provide, but many times they never get around to it. In this episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference, Laura Hatcher explains how she and her team at Love Worth Finding have been able to increase their engagemen…
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#54 - How Jesus.net Personalizes the Digital Experience - Jan-Willem Bosman with Jesus.net
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13:14In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. Jan-Willem Bosman explains the strategy of Jesus.net. Through the use of personalization, their goal is to lead people to the center of the Gospel and help them grow in their spiritual journey. In the commercial world, personalization is already happening. O…
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#53 – Better Storytelling through Video – Mike Sukraw from Reliant Studios
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17:27In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. This session is from Mike Sukraw, the owner of Reliant Studios in Lincoln, Nebraska. Mike shares about the impact of video storytelling and tips for how you can find great interviewees that meet the goals of your ministry or organization. One question that M…
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#52 - Creating Legacy Ministry Impact – Bobby Lewis from Love Worth Finding Ministries
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13:42This episode of the Ministry at Scale podcast features a talk from Bobby Lewis from Love Worth Finding Ministries. He shares about the process of shifting to a legacy ministry and how he and his team shifted the way they provide content. In 2005, Love Worth Finding ministries became a legacy ministry. It had been a media publishing ministry from th…
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#51 – Why fast website speed matters – Brent Wilson from Five Q
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16:59In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. Brent Wilson, with Five Q, explains the importance of website speed and performance and how it can improve the online experience for your customers and users. According to Brent, website performance is mostly about speed. This involves the initial load time …
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#50 – How to Get a 1,000% Response Increase – Brad Davies from Salem Cultivate
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17:56In this episode, we hear from Brad Davies of Salem Cultivate. Brad gave this talk at our 2021 Digital Ministry Conference and shared about how AB testing can significantly increase conversion rates, even as much as 1,000%. To start with an example of what AB testing is, read each piece of copy and decide which is better: Version A Turn your financi…
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#49 – Practicing Ethics Online - Jason Thacker with ERLC
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19:24In this episode, we hear from Jason Thacker of the ERLC (Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission). Jason gave this talk at our 2021 Digital Ministry Conference and shared the importance of prioritizing ethics over engagement. The digital age has offered much innovation, development, and promises about a better future. Although a lot of good has com…
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#48 - Kingdom Centered Innovation - Tabitha Kapic of the Chalmers Center
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18:11In this episode, we bring to you another session from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. This session is from Tabitha Kapic, the Director of Innovation at the Chalmers Center. Tabitha shares with us practical ways to bring innovation into your ministry. Hasn’t Everything Been Done? How Can I Innovate? While innovation can be big things, like lan…
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#47 - 5 Steps to Create Digital Impact with Podcasting with Misty Phillip
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19:20Episode 47 is a special Digital Ministry Conference episode, where we share some of the top sessions from the 2021 Digital Ministry Conference. In this session, we hear from Misty Phillip, Founder of Spark Media. Podcasting is a powerful way to share your knowledge and connect with new audiences, and yet many are too intimidated to get started, and…
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#46 - Marketplace Mission Trips with Mike Henry Sr. - Follower of One
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42:37In this episode, we speak with Mike Henry Sr, the founder of Follower of One. Mike shares his story of God’s faithfulness throughout the years, even when Mike didn’t realize it, and how that lead him to start Follower of One, with the goal of helping every Christian view their job as a mission field. Mike reminds us that no matter where God places …
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#45 - Building Awareness in a Noisy Social Media Space: A Proven 3-Step Model
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17:44This is a special episode of the ministry at scale podcast, where we highlight some of the best sessions from the Digital Ministry Conference. In this session, Natchi Lazarus, co-founder of Open Minds Agency, shares how to cut through the clutter in a noisy social media space. Why Focus on Social Media This session on social media is specifically a…
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#44 - What's Your Legacy with Chad Williams - 2021 Digital Ministry Conference Special Episode
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25:00In this special Digital Ministry Conference episode, you'll hear Chad's keynote speech entitled building a legacy. Chad discusses why it's important to realize that legacies are not just something that happen when you die, they are built by consistent intentional living every day. Listen to the full episode to hear the exercises that Chad gives to …
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#43 - Impacting your Workplace for Christ - Jim & Martha Brangenberg with iWork4Him
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35:46In episode 43 we speak with Jim and Martha Brangenberg, the founders of iwork4Him ministries. Their story begins as 13-year-olds, they both attended the same youth conference and committed their lives to Christian ministry, even though they hadn’t met each other yet. While they maintained their commitment to full-time ministry, they both felt calle…
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#42 - The Google Ads Grant Trap - Ben Martin with Five Q
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27:25In Episode 42 we speak with our very own Ben Martin. Ben is the Senior Digital Strategist at Five Q. He got his start in radio, then has transitioned to internet marketing, With experience ranging from international ministries, schools, and broadcast, Ben brings a ton of experience in digital marketing, and managing the Google Ads Grant, which is w…
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#41 - Zeal for Impact - Adrian Reid with Victory Gardens Caribbean
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34:45In episode 41 we speak with Adrian Reid, the founder of Victory Gardens of the Caribbean. Adrian is an entrepreneur at heart and has started several ministries. Adrian has long had a passion both for entrepreneurship and for the church. For a long time, he wondered if the two passions were compatible, or if he was alone in his calling. Listen as he…
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#40 - 3 Keys to Scale Your Ministry - Josh Wilson of Kingdom Syndicate
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33:53In episode 40 we speak with Josh Wilson, who is a serial entrepreneur, the founder of Kingdom Syndicate, The Deal Scout Podcast, and many other ventures. Josh has a ton of experience in scaling businesses. Josh shares with us his journey of going from a roofer in his family business to an investor and all the highs and lows that brought him to wher…
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#39 - Creatives Lead with author Eric Brown
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1:05:16In episode 39 we spoke with Eric Brown, author of the book Creatives Lead. The idea for this book came from his own personal experience as he shifted from a doer and implementer to a leadership role he realized how different those skill sets are. In his time in leadership positions, he became intentional about helping others grow and noticed that i…
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#38 - Innovation. Entrepreneurship. Intercultural exchange. - Dr. Jens Unger of Impact Week
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31:07In episode 38 we speak with Dr. Jens Unger, the President of Impact Week, an organization that uses design thinking to build entrepreneurship opportunities within developing countries. Impact Week started in partnership between a Church in Germany and universities in Kenya. The professors in Kenya were looking for an opportunity for their students …
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#37 - Accessibility. Distribution. Engagement - Gabe Handy with Jesus Film Project
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47:14In Episode 37 we speak with Gabe Handy, the Director of Digital Strategy at the Jesus Film Project. Gabe has worked with the Jesus Film Project for nearly 15 years. He started with a computer science degree and jumped into the workforce right out of college, but eventually, he felt a calling to give more than finances to God, but also use his techn…
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#36 - Listen. Make. Test. - Tabitha Kapic of The Chalmers Center
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40:20In Episode 36 we speak with Tabitha Kapic, the Director of Innovation at the Chalmers Center. Tabitha, shares how she’s seen God’s guidance in her career path that seems to be a winding path, from a lab in Chicago, through Insurance in Florida and even working in an embassy in London, all the way to where she is now, focused on innovation and desig…
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#35 - Scaling through Partnerships and Collaboration - Tessie DeVore with LUMO Project
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39:01In Episode 35 we speak with Tessie DeVore, the President of the Bible Media Group, an organization who provides Gospel content in nearly 1,000 languages worldwide through collaboration with over 170 ministries. Tessie shares with us how collaboration is critical among kingdom minded organizations, as well as some encouraging stories of how God is w…
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