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1 SISTER WIVES: The Brown Family Plans Garrison's Funeral, Gives NEW Details About His Passing. Justin Baldoni v Blake Lively UPDATES, First Pictures Of Micah Plath’s Broken Nose Have Surfaced!… 36:16
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DANMMMMM…Have I got a show for you! First, a lot of Sister Wives tea - new rumors have surfaced Janelle Brown is leaving the show. Plus, Gabe Brown gives a life update after losing and tragically finding his brother Garrison dead. Sadly, Garrison took his own life in March 2024. Then we head over to discuss the new Welcome To Plathville tea. The first pictures of Micah Plath have surfaced after being beat up by his brother Issac and it doesn’t look good for the future of his modeling career. Lastly, we discuss the latest in the Justin Baldoni v Blake Lively case, Justin is back on social media and it was the perfect social media return. Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Open and new Sister Wives news 00:05:43 - Janelle Brown leaving the show? Sister Wives Closet is officially closed 00:12:45 - A new pic of Micah Plath’s broken nose has surfaced 00:18:18 - Justin Baldoni back on social media and Taylor Swifts team is pissed at Justin Baldoni MY Go Big Podcasting Courses Are Here! Purchase Go Big Podcasting and learn to start, monetize, and grow your own podcast. USE CODE: MOM15 for 15% OFF (code expires May 11th, 2025) **SHOP my Amazon Marketplace - especially if you're looking to get geared-up to start your own Podcast!!!** https://www.amazon.com/shop/thesarahfrasershow Show is sponsored by: Download Cash App & sign up! Use our exclusive referral code TSFS in your profile, send $5 to a friend within 14 days, and you’ll get $10 dropped right into your account. Terms apply Horizonfibroids.com get rid of those nasty fibroids Gopurebeauty.com science backed skincare from head to toe, use code TSFS at checkout for 25% OFF your order Nutrafol.com use code TSFS for FREE shipping and $10 off your subscription Rula.com/tsfs to get started today. That’s R-U-L-A dot com slash tsfs for convenient therapy that’s covered by insurance. SkylightCal.com/tsfs for $30 OFF your 15 inch calendar Quince.com/tsfs for FREE shipping on your order and 365 day returns Warbyparker.com/tsfs make an appointment at one of their 270 store locations and head to the website to try on endless pairs of glasses virtually and buy your perfect pair Follow me on Instagram/Tiktok: @thesarahfrasershow ***Visit our Sub-Reddit: reddit.com/r/thesarahfrasershow for ALL things The Sarah Fraser Show!!!*** Advertise on The Sarah Fraser Show: thesarahfrasershow@gmail.com Got a juicy gossip TIP from your favorite TLC or Bravo show? Email: thesarahfrasershow@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Getting Work To Work is a weekly podcast for creative entrepreneurs, storytellers, visionaries, and change-makers who are on a mission of chasing big ideas, telling epic stories, and leaving living legacies. Whether you’re just starting out or have been at this creative and curious life for some time, I hope you’ll not only learn something new in this podcast, but also find yourself challenged and inspired to break through the barriers that hold you back from getting your work to work.
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Getting Work To Work is a weekly podcast for creative entrepreneurs, storytellers, visionaries, and change-makers who are on a mission of chasing big ideas, telling epic stories, and leaving living legacies. Whether you’re just starting out or have been at this creative and curious life for some time, I hope you’ll not only learn something new in this podcast, but also find yourself challenged and inspired to break through the barriers that hold you back from getting your work to work.
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×I never considered myself an obsessive person until recently, but in reflection, it’s always been part of my life. It’s like the cognitive bias called the frequency illusion—officially the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon—where you observe something, like a certain type of car, and then see it everywhere. Obsession is part of me, past and present. When I’m working on a project, whether a short film or changing the exhaust fan in my bathroom, it shows up early and often. I try to visualize how everything will play out. I research what I don’t know—poring over instruction manuals, books, and videos—then update my visualization. This behavior has served me well in the past, but lately I’ve noticed an increase in rumination and anxiety. What if there was something I could do to offload my obsession, so I can have some peace and learn to trust myself in the process? A quote from After the Ecstasy, the Laundry: How the Heart Grows Wise on the Spiritual Path by Jack Kornfield: “The true task of spiritual life is not found in faraway places or unusual states of consciousness: It is here in the present. It asks of us a welcoming spirit to greet all that life presents to us with a wise, respectful, and kindly heart.” Three ways to offload your obsession: Get it out of my head and into some sort of system. Document the remaining tasks—as you currently understand them)—that need to be completed. Take action. Show Links After the Ecstasy, the Laundry: How the Heart Grows Wise on the Spiritual Path by Jack Kornfield What’s the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon? Photo by Heber Davis on Unsplash…

1 “The Uncommon Way” with Jenna Harrison (GWTW820) 50:52
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Whenever I talk to people that come at life and business in a unique way, I get excited. Today’s guest’s business is called The Uncommon Way and says everything about the type of conversation with are going to have today. Jenna Harrison helps highly-driven women create the business that will be their legacy. Sounds awesome, right? In our conversation, she shares what she learned about the need for meaning in her work when she dropped out of the rat race in her 20s and how that shaped the business and life she has built since then. We talk about the power of constraints, how we can train our minds, why we overwork when we know it doesn’t work, and her five-step process that high-level entrepreneurs can use to rewire their brains and nervous systems to break past revenue plateaus. “It’s not about the hours that we make, it’s about the value we create.” – Jenna Harrison Show Links The Uncommon Way The 3-Day Workweek: Rewire Your Brain & Business For Guilt-Free Work-Life Balance Photo by Claudio Carrozzo on Unsplash…
How do you know that when your moment shows up, you’ll be ready? Earlier this week, I met up with a friend for tea. I purposely waited to record my monologue because I knew something good would come from our conversation; it always does. My friend is widely creative and curious; he is into everything. He uses digital tools to create analog art. At one point, he talked about developing your craft and the importance of toiling in obscurity. You’ve been doing the work. Day after day. Year after year. No awards. Little recognition. Just the casual amassing of a body of work. That’s how you know you’ll be ready when your moment shows up. 9 Lessons I’ve Learned in Almost a Decade of Producing This Weekly Show: There will always be something to talk about and someone to interview. My voice has changed through age and confidence. The worst interviews were the ones I was most prepared for. In nine years, I was only ghosted by one guest. A like on social media does not translate to a listen of the episode. Most podcasting advice doesn’t apply to someone this far into the journey. The person responsible for the show—both in starting it and helping me maintain the momentum to keep going in the early years—is my good friend, Bruce Elgort. As someone who struggles to make small talk, learning how to talk with strangers all over the world is the highlight of my career. There is a saying gurus like to use to talk about podcasts and YouTube shows, “If you aren’t growing, then you’re dying.” Show Links Bruce Elgort Bend Design Midjourney prompt for episode art: toil in obscurity a warehouse full of pottery cinematic lighting –ar 16:9…

1 “An Open Mind to the Future” with Albert Bramante (GWTW818) 43:46
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As a creative person, how do you think about the future? Do you embrace technological advancements, such as AI assistance and enhancement, or do you shut yourself off from them because of fear or stubbornness? What does creativity look like in an AI-driven world? I love asking big questions of my guests. Today, I’m exploring the future with Albert Bramante. Albert is a talent agent and psychology professor who helps actors, students, and creators unleash their potential by integrating psychology, performance strategies, and AI. In our conversation, he shares an optimistic view of AI and technological advancement, fueled by his curiosity about the next big thing. We talk about mindset and productivity, understanding self-sabotage, how to get out of your comfort zone, the impact of giving up too easily, and when AI assistance becomes a creative crutch. “There’s no such thing as failure, only feedback.” – Albert Bramante Show Links Dr. Albert Bramante on Instagram Bramante Artists OpenAI Claude Google Gemini Midjourney The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett Mel Robbins Tony Robbins Midjourney prompt for episode art: facing the unknown future abstract representation –ar 16:9 –v 6.1…
I spend a lot of time in my work week thinking and writing. Yesterday, as I was writing my Chris Martin Studios newsletter titled “Old Tech and Some Bullsh*t,” I pulled a book off the shelf and started reading the introduction. I was hoping for some inspiration, it was about craftsmanship after all, but I couldn’t find a way to connect it to my main idea. So, I left it on the workbench. Today, struggling with an idea for a monologue, I saw the book sitting there, I picked it up, wrote down some of the quotes about craftsmanship, and before I knew it, I had something to say about being a beginner and the wonder of craftsmanship. Show Links Old Tech and Some Bullsh*t | Chris Martin Studios Newsletter Working with Wood: The Basics of Craftsmanship by Peter Korn Why We Make Things and Why It Matters: The Education of a Craftsman by Peter Korn Korn – Blind (Official HD Video) Photo by Elmer Cañas on Unsplash…

1 “Make It 1% Better” with Steven Puri (GWTW816) 57:00
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How do people work? With that knowledge, how do we give them what they need? Today’s guest is no stranger to asking questions and learning to listen to what is and is not being said. With a background in journalism, film production, and entrepreneurship, Steven Puri is on a mission to help millions of people find their focus, achieve more, and have a healthy work life through The Sukha Company. In our conversation, Steven tells the tales of his time in Hollywood and what led him to the world of technology and app development. He shares lessons that we can all learn from including make it 1% better, it’s always about the other thing, tenacity over talent, and how organizing principles can guide your work to not only completion, but also provide deeper meaning. If you are looking for more from your life and work and not sure where to start, join Steven and I on this conversational journey. “The most confident and successful people are the most open to being wrong.” Show Links The Sukha Company Independence Day (1996) Phil Tippett Phil Tippett: Mad Dreams and Monsters (2019) Jurassic Park (1993) Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) DreamWorks Stacey Snider The Net and The Butterfly: The Art and Practice of Breakthrough Thinking by Olivia Fox Cabane & Judah Pollack The Wolverine (2013) Demolition Man (1993) Idiocracy (2006) Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi Cal Newport Sinners (2025) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) Time Bandits (1981) Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) Conversations with Wilder by Cameron Crowe Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi The Lessons of History by Will Durant and Ariel Durant Photo by Silas Baisch on Unsplash…
As an adult, I’ve never been much of a sports fan. I’d occasionally watch whatever big game was happening, so I could talk to others about it, but my focus has always been work—what I’m working on, dreaming about, and obsessing over—and I think I’ve been missing out on a ton of life lessons. This year, I’ve really been getting into baseball, watching Cleveland Guardians games and talking with my dad and brother on group chat about them. With 162 games scheduled this season, my initial feeling watching people go to the games was, “How do they find time to go?” But quickly that shifted to, “How do I find time to watch?” It’s slowly taken over my afternoons and I’m not mad at it. I get to connect with family, yes, but I also experience important lessons that aren’t taught in any other arenas, the main one being how to lose. Here are five things I’m learning from losing: There’s always something to celebrate even in the midst of a loss. Change what you can control, ride out what you can’t. Get out of your head and into the moment. You can only blame the umpires so much before you start looking in the mirror. Pay attention to how individual performance affects team dynamics and vice versa. One final lesson – it’s a big one: You have a 160 games in a season, you lose, no big deal, show up tomorrow and see what you’ve got. Show Links Official Cleveland Guardians Website | MLB.com Guardians Broadcasters | Cleveland Guardians Midjourney prompt for episode art: swirling emotions in the air abstract in the style of dadaism technicolor –ar 16:9…

1 “The Realities of Business” with Laura Zavelson (GWTW814) 45:27
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Sometimes I get the impression from social media that running a business is easy, but nothing could be further from the truth: entrepreneurship is hard work. Today’s guest shines a light on the realities of business and how we can use tools, technologies, and success squads to stay focused on what matters to us in uncertain times. Laura Zavelson is a business strategist who has taken everything she’s learned in 25 years as a founder, entrepreneurship professor, and business consultant and created a framework that helps you intentionally design your business to go where you want to go. We dive into our conversation talking about our mutual membership in Generation X—the generation between boomers and millennials—and her love for how we organize information. Laura also shares deep insights about how technology can assist strategy, the two types of entrepreneurship, the importance of building a business on the foundation of money, meaning, and flexibility, and how you can change your business as you evolve and grow. Show Links Laura Zavelson Building a Second Brain: A Proven Method to Organize Your Digital Life and Unlock Your Creative Potential by Tiago Forte Goodnotes Kindle Scribe reMarkable What are AI agents? | IBM Midjourney prompt for episode art: connecting abstract topics in a mind map abstract –ar 16:9 –v 6.1…
Earlier this week, I was writing a newsletter about how irrelevance comes for us all. I was looking at The Future of Jobs Report 2025 from the World Economic Forum, which reports in-depth not only about jobs, but also the core skills necessary for today’s working environment and into the future. In the middle of the list of core skills in 2025 was dependability and attention to detail and near the bottom was reading, writing and mathematics. While they may be core skills today, they are shifting in a negative direction over the next five years. This got me thinking about our expectations, not just as creative entrepreneurs, but workers, in general: We have no time to be wrong; failure isn’t an option. Humans are error-prone, AI will be quick and correct. Show Links Irrelevance Comes For Us All by Chris Martin World Economic Forum – The Future of Jobs Report 2025 Real Genius (1985) Anthropic Photo by Max Böhme on Unsplash…

1 “The Little Things Tickle Me” with gough (GWTW812) 51:31
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Today on the show for the 22nd time and to celebrate our 7th anniversary with copper and wool is the Australian filmmaker, gough. He is the purveyor of jokes and awkward pauses, appropriately inappropriate mockumentaries about any topic he chooses (nothing is sacred and no one is safe), and the comedic genius behind BeernutsProductions.com. Gough just released his latest film, A Day in the Life of a Personal Trainer , and he shares several behind-the-scenes stories about it. We dive into why he chose to remake the film with a new script and as much of the old cast as possible. Take notes, because he also shares how to make the chunkiest smoothy possible; you probably won’t want to drink it. Most importantly, he gives a lesson in how to behave when filming at actual businesses. Previously on Getting Work To Work: “Catching Up” with gough (GWTW155) The Official Beernuts Productions Category Show Links Beernuts Productions A Day in the Life of a Personal Trainer Episode 9 – The Jasmine Stinks Interview Local Heroes Jimmy Green and his Adventures in the Magic Forest Reluctant Hero’s – Horse Race Commentators Liam Gallagher – Be Still (Official Audio) Amy Shark – I Said Hi (Official Video) Amy Shark Andy Dick Ilia Chidzey The Muppet Show: Veterinarian’s Hospital – Behemoth The Happytime Murders (2018) Brian Henson Psych (2006–2014) Chortle Baku, the capital of Azerbaijan Sinners (2025) The Studio (2025–) Ron Howard Mythic Quest (2020–2025) Black Bag (2025) The Amateur (2025) The Bourne Identity (2002) The Bourne Supremacy (2004) The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)…
It’s been a month since my last monologue and I’ve got a lot on my mind. That’s why starting this week, I’m changing the release schedule of Getting Work To Work back to what it was before I burnt out and paused the show last year: monologues on Wednesdays and interviews on Fridays. This allows me to continue lining up interesting conversations with people all over the world, but also process what’s going on in my brain and heart. But first, a story. Jack Kent calls himself a cartoonalist—part journalist and part cartoonist—and at the end of the day, he recaps what he went through in a journal. On December 15, 2023, he shared his journaling practice in a video on his YouTube channel called Start A Journal Now! Unlock your inner potential! I was inspired and challenged by Jack himself in the comments: “Time waits for no one. You should fall back into practice! The hardest part of a habit is just starting it. How many times has a chore that you keep putting off just nag and nag at you? And then when you start the chore, it’s actually not that hard. Start that journal habit and you’ll see it’s pretty easy to keep up!” Since that day, before I go to bed, I write down what I did. It’s often short, a few sentences, but the habit is there. Fortunately, I’ve only missed one day, primarily because I had just started a new job and I was physically exhausted. Flipping through the days, I can see what was on my mind, but mostly what I did. I see the recurring patterns of being tired and bored, but mostly what I see is just how delusional I am. Let me explain. One of the prevailing narratives that guides my days is that I’m lazy and unproductive. I make a weekly to-do list on Sundays, fill each day as full as I can, but also allow unknown and urgent tasks to derail an already packed day. There are days when I’m just too tired (as I often write about at the end of the day) and instead watch a show or baseball in the morning or afternoon. But most days, I tell myself one story throughout the day and at night, the truth comes out: I do way more that I allow myself to see. Show Links Start A Journal Now! Unlock your inner potential! Surviving the Game (1994) Photo by Pelle Martin on Unsplash…

1 “Freedom to Create & Live” with Pia Leichter (GWTW810) 53:58
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I believe that conversations show up when you need them the most; I needed today’s episode. Over the years, I’ve talked a lot about creativity, the creative process, and business, but I haven’t spent enough time on the subject of life. That’s what today’s guest really explores in this episode. Pia Leichter is a creative partner, coach, author of Welcome to the Creative Club: Make Life Your Biggest Art Project , and founder of Kollektiv Studio. We talk about authentically showing up, creating a space for openness, and what the concept of flow looks like in our lives. You’ll even get a taste of Pia’s coaching style as we explore my creative block around the book I’m writing. Show Links Kollektiv Studio Welcome to the Creative Club: Make Life Your Biggest Art Project by Pia Mailhot-Leichter Co-Active Coaching, Fourth Edition: The Proven Framework for Transformative Conversations at Work and in Life by Karen Kimsey-House, Henry Kimsey-House, Phillip Sandhal, Laura Whitworth The man in the arena – Theodore Roosevelt Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead by Brené Brown Photo by Andrew Valdivia on Unsplash…
Is it possible to get smarter by thinking dumber? That’s the premise of Dumbify , a weekly newsletter by today’s guest, David Carson. David is an entrepreneur and marketing innovator who applies unconventional thinking to how businesses solve problems. In our conversation, he unpacks what dumb thinking is, the evolution of Dumbify —from collecting patterns and mental models to finding stories to bring those concepts to life—why clever is the enemy, and dumb stands out. If you’ve ever sat around wondering what potato chips can teach you about business, then this conversation is for you. Show Links Dumbify David Carson Prezi Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World by Adam Grant Wadsworth Atheneum Museum of Art Calder Foundation – Hanging Mobiles Liquid Death Balenciaga Crocs Dirt After School by Casey Lewis Midjourney prompt for episode art: reimagine the universe as the neuron pathway in the brain –ar 16:9 –v 7 –stylize 400…

1 “The Magic of Human Creative Energy” with Vincent Wanga (GWTW808) 52:22
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Today I’m talking with Vincent Wanga about the magic of human creative energy. Vincent is an executive creative leader, serial entrepreneur, and author of The Art of Direction: Personal Perspectives on the Path to Creative Leadership . Our conversation begins and ends with a focus on the future. What is our place as creatives in a technological world driven by artificial intelligence? What does leadership look like in an asynchronous, AI-driven creative world? The answers might surprise you, but they’ll definitely challenge you. Throughout this interview, Vincent shares stories and tools any creative can use to adapt to the ever-changing world we live in. “Don’t be close-minded to opportunity.” – Vincent Wanga Show Links Vincent Wanga The Art of Direction: Personal Perspectives on the Path to Creative Leadership by Vincent Wanga Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap…And Others Don’t by Jim Collins Midjourney prompt for episode art: the future of leadership is artificial intelligence –ar 16:9 –v 7…

1 “The Art of Rewriting” with Kelley Baker (GWTW807) 53:28
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I’m talking to my good friend Kelley Baker about the art of rewriting. Kelley is an accomplished filmmaker, sound designer, and author. We got together to record a couple film-based conversations for my other podcast, Beyond Your Imagination , and before we got down to business talking about Frank Zappa, Sparks, and Werner Herzog, I asked if we could talk about writing and rewriting. I brought the questions, Kelley brought the stories and wisdom. Show Links Beyond Your Imagination Kelley Baker – The Angry Filmmaker Dennis Barton is a Bastard and Other Stories by Kelley Baker Kelley Baker’s Substack Twede’s Cafe Brian David Johnson Searching for the Wrong-Eyed Jesus (2003) Facing Your Fears by Chris Martin Edgar Allan Poe Ray Bradbury Mark Twain To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee Photo by Csabi Elter on Unsplash…
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I want to talk about something that affects every single creative person alive today: why we need to embrace both big dreams and small realities. Last night, I went to a local meetup for filmmakers. It was a good group, I met some nice people, but as I was reflecting on filmmaking in general, the questions began: Why do independent filmmakers who have little to no money make feature films? I mean Netflix spent an estimated 320 million on The Electric State by the Russo Brothers. What chance does a $15,000 film have against that juggernaut? So many questions, right? How about some more? Why are authors writing novels or books in general when they could be connecting with audiences in new ways? Why toil away on a screenplay for 10 years, hoping that it will be optioned by a studio executive? Why make an album when a single is more impactful? I believe that big dreams are essential to the work of a creator. If we never dream of moving a ship over a mountain like Werner Herzog in Fitzcarraldo , then how we will learn about our capabilities and the consequences of our dreams? But while dreams keep us in the land of hope and belief—”One day, this will happen”—we need small projects that can keep us nimble, learning and growing on a daily basis. We need both to realize our creative dreams. Note: After releasing the episode, I found the newsletter I mentioned in the section about economics and monetizing serial podcasts: “ The harsh economics for serialized podcasts ” by Simon Owens. Show Links Fitzcarraldo (1982) The Electric State (2025) Photo by Pawel Czerwinski on Unsplash…
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1 “The Best Part of the Internet” with Christopher Butler (GWTW805) 1:13:49
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I’m talking with one of my favorite people in the world about a bunch of interesting topics ranging from old tech, new promises, and platforms of argument and despair to the traits of makers, the search for clarity and ownership in a digital world, and perhaps the biggest question of all: What kind of world do we want to live in? Christopher Butler is the Chief Design Officer at Newfangled and Magnolia. He writes extensively on his website, which I’ve linked to in the show notes at gwtw.co/805, about his desire “to learn, make and improve things, write, discuss ideas, and just observe.” He is an encourager, a challenger, and one hell of a conversationalist. Previously on Getting Work To Work: Interview with Christopher Butler (GWTW82) “Limitations, Forgiveness & Value” with Christopher Butler (GWTW169) “Few Things Are That Shallow” with Christopher Butler (GWTW505) “Take a Deep Breath, Humanity” with Christopher Butler (GWTW667) Show Links Christopher Butler The Luddites Were Right by Christopher Butler Newfangled Magnolia Dunbar’s number by Robin Dunbar SCREAM INTO THE VOID Escape from L.A. (1996) Luddite Isaac Asimov Ted Chiang Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang Arrival (2016) Brian Eno James Webb Space Telescope The Custodians: Beyond Abduction by Dolores Cannon Regression Therapy: Benefits, Techniques & How It Works Ingrained: The Making of a Craftsman by Callum Robinson Midjourney prompt for episode art: the digital world has turned the analog world into binary code digital distortion unreality technofuturism –ar 16:9…
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When we start out doing something, we make mistakes until eventually something works. We build upon the things that work, actively avoiding what didn’t work. We build our skills until they become the foundations for our initial prototypes and plans for our creative work. These plans help us to chart a course away from failure and the beginner’s mind towards experience, excellence, and one day, mastery. Not a bad journey, if you ask me. “As we gain knowledge about a domain, we become prisoners of our prototypes.” – Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World by Adam Grant But what I love about Grant’s quote is that it isn’t about demonizing experience and knowledge, it’s what the prototype represents: the formula we follow every time we make something. Yes, our creativity can become formulaic, and that’s when we became the prisoner. Following the same routine every day, surrounded by the same people, with limited options and no freedom. As I set out on my woodworking journey, I am far away from any prototypes because I haven’t made enough. But I do want to keep in mind the joy of pushing my limits and abilities. To be free to try new things. But I just don’t have enough knowledge and experience yet. But with my other creative efforts, like podcasting, filmmaking, and writing, I need to realize that I’m following formulas and patterns and prototypes of what works. That in many ways, my prototypes keep me safe between the bars of my constructed creative reality. And I need to smash those prototypes. Not because they aren’t working, they are, but there is something missing. The freedom to push my limits, to explore new ideas, and to reinvigorate a sense of play, exploration, and wonder. Show Links Pop Octopus – Awesome Stuff for Weirdos Twin Peaks Traveling through time, but have I changed? – Getting Work To Work Newsletter Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World by Adam Grant…
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1 “Chemical Rocketeers” with Devin Blair (GWTW803) 51:14
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I always love when people who are doing something completely different reach out to be on the show. When I started looking into what today’s guest is producing, I knew I wanted to have him on the show. Devin Blair is the creative behind Chemical Rocketeers , “a storytelling podcast that blends themes of exploration, survival, and mystery.” In our conversation, we talk about how he got into podcasting, how his travels inform the show, the creative process, the importance of learning from others, and how curiosity presents itself differently in cultures around the world. He also asks me how I learn, which evolves into a discussion around our creative DNA. Show Links Chemical Rocketeers 101 To The Moon Creative Life In The Wires by Frost* RoboCop (1987) Terminator (1984) RoboDoc: The Creation of RoboCop (2023) Midjourney prompt for episode art: portrait of an unknown astronaut in front of a black hole sucking all life into it –ar 16:9…
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What comes to mind when you think about playing the lottery? All the traveling you’ll be able to afford? The golden beaches and beautiful bodies? The job you can finally quit? The house you can finally buy? The car? Finally! For creatives, the lottery might look differently. We can finally make that film that we’ve been writing for ten years. There will be enough money to justify learning how to podcast or leather craft or play the guitar. That book about penguins we can’t stop researching and obsessing over, it will finally get published. Finally! Whether you play the lottery or not, I believe everyone does, especially in the creative industries. I’m going to explore how the creative lottery presents itself, how our communication systems perpetuate it through influencers and gurus, and how we can begin to opt out of playing the game. Show Links The Technium: 1,000 True Fans by Kevin Kelly Beernuts Productions Summer School (1987) Midjourney prompt for episode art: in a vast warehouse giant vacuum tubes lottery machine with balls tumbling in a giant vat cinematic lighting –ar 16:9…
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1 “The Word of Dog” with Mark Rowlands (GWTW801) 49:19
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Have you ever thought about what your dog is thinking about at any given moment? Is it thinking about philosophy, the meaning of life, what that treat really signifies? Perhaps it’s something deeper and beyond our comprehension. Today’s guest on Getting Work To Work is the author of a new book, The Word of Dog: What Our Canine Companions Can Teach Us About Living a Good Life , that explores what we can learn about our own lives by examining the lives of our best friends. Mark Rowlands is a philosopher, professor, and chair of the Philosophy Department at the University of Miami. He’s also a prolific author, writing extensively about philosophy, animals, science fiction films, climate, memory, animal rights, and body language. In our conversation, we talk about his creative process and when the best ideas show up, the role memory plays in coming up with creative connections, and what he’s learned about life from dogs. Show Links The Word of Dog: What Our Canine Companions Can Teach Us About Living a Good Life by Mark Rowlands The Philosopher and the Wolf: Lessons from the Wild on Love, Death, and Happiness by Mark Rowlands The Philosopher at the End of the Universe: Philosophy Explained Through Science Fiction Films by Mark Rowlands Mark Rowlands John Rawls The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge by Rainer Maria Rilke Marcel Proust Ulric Neisser Sisyphus Thomas Nagel Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi Tantalus Alan Turing The Zero Theorem (2013) The Phenomenology of Spirit by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel The World as Will and Representation by Arthur Schopenhauer Midjourney prompt for episode art: the meaning of life abstract surrealism monochromatic –ar 16:9…
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Have you ever thought what you’re leaving behind for the next generation? Whenever the conversation of legacy comes up, there are often two tracks of conversation: 1) the physical objects we make or the stuff we accumulate, and 2) the impact we have on others (financially, relationally, or emotionally). But last week, during my interview with philosopher Mark Rowlands about his new book, The Word of Dog: What Our Canine Companions Can Teach Us About Living a Good Life , we got on the subject of digital immortality. I haven’t stopped thinking about it and thought, “What a great topic for episode 800 of Getting Work To Work .” Given the staggering amount of data we generate in a lifetime at what point could we be recreated and resurrected into digital form? We probably wouldn’t be conscious ourselves, but to those around us, would they even know? Would they even care? So many questions, so little time. Let’s get into it. Show Links Barbie (2023) – Quotes The Word of Dog: What Our Canine Companions Can Teach Us About Living a Good Life by Mark Rowlands Breaking Down The Numbers: How Much Data Does The World Create Daily in 2024? Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons Enshittification Midjourney prompt for episode art: digital immortality cybergenetics robotics androids abstract surrealism –ar 16:9…
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1 “Meaningful Press Releases” with Mickie Kennedy (GWTW799) 50:42
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What’s the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the term press release? Irrelevant? Old-fashioned? I know, boring, right? But nothing could be further from the truth. Today’s guest on the show is Mickie Kennedy, Founder and President of eReleases, the small business leader for press release distribution. He is an expert at helping small businesses increase their visibility and credibility. If you’re like me and know little to nothing about press releases, this episode will have you looking at them in a new way. In our conversation, we talk about the different types of press releases, the importance of providing data and context, how to approach writing press releases if you have a small audience or just starting out, and most importantly, how to keep your business fresh by constantly adapting and providing value. “The finished product isn’t the press release, it’s the article that a journalist is going to write from that.” – Mickie Kennedy Show Links eReleases Free Master Class: How to Build a PR Campaign Designed to Get Massive Media Coverage 80/20 Sales and Marketing: The Definitive Guide to Working Less and Making More by Perry Marshall Midjourney prompt for episode art: the words of a press release coming to life in the form of light texture colorful –ar 16:9…
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1 “Cinematic Storytelling for Business” with Christian Schu (GWTW798) 1:00:07
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What makes for a great story…in business? Today’s guest answers that question with his lens focused on long-term relationships, a different way of looking at the hero’s journey, and a love for his craft. Christian Schu produces commercials and brand films for high-end companies all over the world. In our conversation, he talks about the cultural differences in storytelling, the importance of curiosity in relationship building, his creative journey, and his approach to working by himself versus working with large teams. Most importantly, his response to my question about imposter syndrome might just change how you think about your own work and relationship with your clients. It did for me. Show Links Christian Schu Asteroid City (2023) The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014) RIP David Lynch Midjourney prompt for episode art: surreal tunnel neon light abstract city grid rainy atmosphere –ar 16:9…
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We’ve all heard the phrase, “Teamwork makes the dream work.” Maybe this one as well, “You can’t do everything yourself.” Over the past 18 years of business, whenever I was confronted with the idea of turning my business of one into a team-based endeavor, I wanted to prove that I could be the exception. I didn’t want to bring anyone else in for multiple reasons, but mainly because I didn’t know where to start. In today’s episode of Getting Work To Work , I’m going to talk about how freelancers and solopreneurs can start to build a team around their work, in their own way, supporting what matters most to them. What are the team dynamics that allow individual performance to thrive? Building teams isn’t just something you read about, it’s something that you need to do, actively and intentionally. Five ways for solos to begin building their team: Find your reason for building a team. Recognize that building a creative team is not about hierarchy or titles, it’s about growth, support, challenge, and connection. Not just for you as the leader, but also for the individuals you lead. People matter more than tools. In-person matters as much as online. Establish a brain trust. Show Links The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don’t Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber The Three Business Personalities: Entrepreneur, Manager, Technician Creativity, Inc.: Overcoming the Unseen Forces That Stand in the Way of True Inspiration by Ed Catmull Midjourney prompt for episode art: teamwork makes the dream work abstract surrealism cinematic –ar 16:9…
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1 “The Root of Your Happiness” with Janice Kaplan (GWTW796) 46:07
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Where is the foundation of your happiness? For me, happiness was solely found in my mind. But after being introduced to today’s guest, I learned that there is a strong connection between happiness and the body. Janice Kaplan is the author of What Your Body Knows About Happiness: How to Use Your Body to Change Your Mind , a new book diving into this topic with a wide range of stories, interviews, and studies. In this conversation, we explore a few of the mind-blowing studies and the myths dispelled along the way. We also talk about Janice’s approach to reinvention throughout her career, context-dependent memory and learning, the partnership between brain and body, how form creates function, and why creativity is enhanced by moving our bodies. Show Links Janice Kaplan What Your Body Knows About Happiness: How to Use Your Body to Change Your Mind by Janice Kaplan The Gratitude Diaries: How a Year Looking on the Bright Side Can Transform Your Life by Janice Kaplan Quote by John Mulaney : “I don’t know what my body is for other than taking my head from room to room.” Strava Meet Willow, our state-of-the-art quantum chip Long Island by Colm Tóibín Master of Change: How to Excel When Everything Is Changing, Including You by Brad Stulberg Midjourney prompt for episode art: the root of happiness, body in motion, abstract, surreal –ar 16:9…
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1 “Double Feature of Silly Jokes” with gough (GWTW795) 51:23
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Today’s guest on Getting Work To Work is none other than the Australian sensation, gough. He’s the writer, director, and visionary behind BeernutsProductions.com and is here to talk about his latest audio project, The Body Corporate Meeting . He dives into how he mined real-life situations for comedy gold, why he approached the recording of the piece as an old-fashioned radio play, and the difference in writing and producing audio and film projects. We also look at his first film project, The Advertising Meeting , and talk about how his style has remained the same for ten years, but is also different. Most importantly, we crack jokes at my expense and marvel at my ability to drown in my own crapulence. Show Links Beernuts Productions The Body Corporate Meeting The Advertising Meeting Local Heroes Jimmy Green and His Adventures in the Magic Forest The Gruen Transfer (2008–2011) Robert’s Rules of Order Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back (1980) U2 The Long and Winding Road (Remastered 2009) U2 – Elevation (Official Music Video) Piece by Piece (2024) Top 10 Monty Python Animated Moments…
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Here to celebrate his 20th appearance on Getting Work To Work and his latest film, Local Heroes , is the self-described king of the jungle, gough. As a writer, producer, director, and actor for BeernutsProductions.com, gough always finds a way to not only make me laugh, but also inspire me to create meaningful work. In our conversation, we begin with a lightning round of questions about Australia’s wildlife. We also talk about his uncanny ability to recall details throughout his life, bad advice his guidance counselor gave him, important ways for actors to push the boundaries of their craft, and several behind the scenes stories of Local Heroes and the Beernuts Productions podcast. Show Links Beernuts Productions on Getting Work To Work BeernutsProductions.com Local Heroes The Advertising Meeting The Beernuts Productions Podcast Currumbin Wildlife Sanctuary Snakes Downunder Reptile Park & Zoo Calypso Star Charters Spokane, Washington Melbourne, Australia Surfer Mick Fanning attacked by shark Rain Man (1988) See No Evil, Hear No Evil (1989) – Gene Wilder Is Deaf & Richard Pryor Is Blind See No Evil Hear No Evil (1989) Kiosk Scene – Note: This is the scene I referred to in my conversation with gough. The first link is the introduction to both characters in the film and is also hilarious. Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971) Dr. Phil (2002–2023) Last Week Tonight with John Oliver Thelma (2024)…
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As long as I can remember, I’ve been intrigued with exploration. Growing up in the middle of nowhere, exploring the woods around the house was just the beginning. The starry nights captured my imagination, the road atlas showed how to get around the surrounding areas, and the globe revealed everything else. But exploration comes in multiple flavors because I should also mention the digital discoveries made in the 1990s through the personal computing, World Wide Web, and smart phone revolutions. As I get older, discovery looks a lot different. Sure, I want to see the world and experience as much as I can, but there are also discoveries to be made deep within myself. Not to mention the way work comes to life when you turn down the distractions and tune in to the resonate tones of mastery. In today’s episode of Getting Work To Work , I want to dive into the topic of exploration in our craft, and how being in the right place at the right time, can change everything. Prepare Your Workspace for the Discoveries You Want to Make Do the Work in Your Workspace Reflect on How the Work Unfolded Examine Your Work for Something New Show Links Remains of Sandy Irvine believed found on Everest after 100 years Jimmy Chin Teaches Adventure Photography Midjourney prompt for episode art: historical men and women astronaut explorers searching an unknown map –ar 16:9…
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What do you do when your creativity is broken? On top of that, what do you do when you rely upon your creativity to make a living? Earlier this year, my creativity not only cracked, but shattered into a million pieces. I paused all my side projects, calling it creative hibernation. I kept producing work for my recurring clients to the best of my ability, but also got a job to help pay bills. As I talked with people about what I was going through, the messages I received went something like this: “Me too, I’m glad I’m not the only one.” In this episode of Getting Work To Work , I’m going to explore how my broken creativity manifests itself, and the tiny action steps I’m taking to put it all back together again. Five ways to start healing your broken creativity: Pause all non-essential projects and allow yourself to rest and refuel. Listen for the return of your creative vision. Take small action steps. Connect with other people. Try on old behaviors and see how they fit with new ideas. Show Links Master of Change: How to Excel When Everything is Changing—Including You by Brad Stulberg Nils van der Poel Kintsugi Midjourney prompt for episode art: broken creativity kintsugi repairing cracks –ar 16:9…
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