“The Best Part of the Internet” with Christopher Butler (GWTW805)

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Squid Game is back—and this time, the knives are out. In the thrilling Season 3 premiere, Player 456 is spiraling and a brutal round of hide-and-seek forces players to kill or be killed. Hosts Phil Yu and Kiera Please break down Gi-hun’s descent into vengeance, Guard 011’s daring betrayal of the Game, and the shocking moment players are forced to choose between murdering their friends… or dying. Then, Carlos Juico and Gavin Ruta from the Jumpers Jump podcast join us to unpack their wild theories for the season. Plus, Phil and Kiera face off in a high-stakes round of “Hot Sweet Potato.” SPOILER ALERT! Make sure you watch Squid Game Season 3 Episode 1 before listening on. Play one last time. IG - @SquidGameNetflix X (f.k.a. Twitter) - @SquidGame Check out more from Phil Yu @angryasianman , Kiera Please @kieraplease and the Jumpers Jump podcast Listen to more from Netflix Podcasts . Squid Game: The Official Podcast is produced by Netflix and The Mash-Up Americans.…

about a year ago 1:13:49

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I’m talking with one of my favorite people in the world about a bunch of interesting topics ranging from old tech, new promises, and platforms of argument and despair to the traits of makers, the search for clarity and ownership in a digital world, and perhaps the biggest question of all: What kind of world do we want to live in? Christopher Butler is the Chief Design Officer at Newfangled and Magnolia. He writes extensively on his website, which I’ve linked to in the show notes at gwtw.co/805, about his desire “to learn, make and improve things, write, discuss ideas, and just observe.” He is an encourager, a challenger, and one hell of a conversationalist.

Previously on Getting Work To Work:

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Christopher Butler
The Luddites Were Right by Christopher Butler
Newfangled
Magnolia
Dunbar’s number by Robin Dunbar
SCREAM INTO THE VOID
Escape from L.A. (1996)
Luddite
Isaac Asimov
Ted Chiang
Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang
Arrival (2016)
Brian Eno
James Webb Space Telescope
The Custodians: Beyond Abduction by Dolores Cannon
Regression Therapy: Benefits, Techniques & How It Works
Ingrained: The Making of a Craftsman by Callum Robinson
Midjourney prompt for episode art: the digital world has turned the analog world into binary code digital distortion unreality technofuturism –ar 16:9

90 episodes

Getting Work To Work

“The Best Part of the Internet” with Christopher Butler (GWTW805)

Getting Work To Work

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published about a year ago

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Previously on Getting Work To Work:

Show Links

Christopher Butler
The Luddites Were Right by Christopher Butler
Newfangled
Magnolia
Dunbar’s number by Robin Dunbar
SCREAM INTO THE VOID
Escape from L.A. (1996)
Luddite
Isaac Asimov
Ted Chiang
Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang
Arrival (2016)
Brian Eno
James Webb Space Telescope
The Custodians: Beyond Abduction by Dolores Cannon
Regression Therapy: Benefits, Techniques & How It Works
Ingrained: The Making of a Craftsman by Callum Robinson
Midjourney prompt for episode art: the digital world has turned the analog world into binary code digital distortion unreality technofuturism –ar 16:9

90 episodes

#Careers #Business #Chris Martin Studios #Ive Been

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“The Circus of Satan” with Jeffrey Konvitz (GWTW832) 41:29

5 days ago41:29

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How do you keep your imagination and productivity going year after year, decade after decade? By challenging yourself, doing your work to the best of your ability, and taking nothing personally. Today’s guest is Jeffrey Konvitz and is no stranger to the world of imagination. He’s worked in film as an entertainment attorney, screenwriter, and producer. He’s also the author of The Sentinel , The Guardian , Monster: A Tale of Loch Ness , and his latest book, The Circus of Satan: Murder, Revenge, and the Rise of Organized Crime . In our conversation, he talks about his writing process, why it took over 24 years to write the book, the differences between novels and screenplays, and how he tackles heavy issues without making it a slog. Show Links Jeffrey Konvitz Barnes & Noble: The Circus of Satan: Murder, Revenge, and the Rise of Organized Crime Amazon: The Circus of Satan: Murder, Revenge, and the Rise of Organized Crime Gladiator (2000) Inception (2010) Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad Scientific American Financial Times Midjourney prompt for episode art: closeup of flames –ar 16:9…

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Refilling the Tanks (GWTW831) 13:36

6 days ago13:36

13:36

Refilling the creativity and curiosity tanks is easy when life is going as planned. When balance is maintained, money is in the bank, and work is more feast than famine. But what about the other times? When pain keeps you in bed instead of at the desk, depression fuels boredom (or is it the other way around), the lack of money saps all motivation and means to explore new crafts and potential paths, and loneliness lies and keeps you isolated from community. Terminal velocity, straight to hell. You need to find a way to not only slow down, but shift your direction. And that’s what today’s episode is all about. 7 ways to refill your creativity and curiosity tanks, even in the midst of pain, procrastination, or poverty: Minimize the distractions and doomscrolls. Use your imagination for good rather than evil. Chase the smallest spark. Find free ways to learn and practice your craft. Use the tools and equipment you have in new ways. Return to what you’re avoiding. Do what you know you love. Show Links Red Dawn (1984) Midjourney prompt for episode art: creativity and curiosity tanks filling a giant warehouse of imagination and wonder abstract surrealism –ar 16:9…

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“Unconvention” with Sri Kaza (GWTW830) 46:19

12 days ago46:19

46:19

When you are running a business—no matter how small or large—it’s easy to forget why you are doing it. You look around at what everyone else is doing and question your own success. You read the latest business book about systems and processes of giant corporations and wonder why they didn’t work in your small business. So, what are we to do? Today’s guest has some fresh ideas for us to consider. Sri Kaza is a seasoned business leader and small business advocate with a background in corporate strategy and entrepreneurship. He fell in love with small business and the potential they have when focused on purpose, proximity, and positioning. In our conversation, we talk about his underdog principles, the differences between scale and personal economies, apprenticeship, and the evolution of the creative industry. He also shares about his upcoming book, Unconvention: A Small Business Strategy Guide . Show Links Sri Kaza Unconvention: A Small Business Strategy Guide by Sri Kaza The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don’t Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber Photo by Paulo Doi on Unsplash…

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Influence Your Imagination (GWTW829) 12:11

14 days ago12:11

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I wasn’t sure what today’s episode was going to be about until I heard something in an episode of Somebody Feed Phil on Netflix. While visiting Sarma, a Middle Eastern restaurant in Somerville, Massachusetts, Phil and his guest mentioned that the chef travels all over the world, eats delicious food, and brings those flavors back to the menu. That got me thinking: What would be the equivalent of doing this for podcasters, filmmakers, writers, and other types of artists? Sure, we have the Internet at our fingertips and can go anywhere with a tap and swipe, but what are we missing when we only do that? When we don’t get away from our workspaces, offices, and task lists? When our analog senses dull from constant connection to a digital realm? We are missing a lot and in today’s episode, I’m going to share a few ways to step away and influence your imagination. Five places to go to influence your imagination: The library An art museum Bookstores BBQ competitions Farmers markets Show Links Somebody Feed Phil (2018–) Boston – Phil Rosenthal World Portland Art Museum Becoming Fearless: 65 Strategies to Journey from Self-Doubt to Self-Mastery by Dr. Benjamin Ritter Photo by MeSSrro on Unsplash…

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“A Life of Awe & Wonder” with Lee C. Camp (GWTW828) 48:47

19 days ago48:47

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How curious are you about asking and reflecting upon the deep questions of life? You know, massive questions like, “How do you think about a life worth living?” or “What kind of people are we becoming as individuals and as a community by employing any given technology?” Today’s guest on Getting Work To Work is no stranger to asking these questions of himself, his guests on his podcast, and the students in his classroom. Lee C. Camp is a theologian, professor and host of the acclaimed No Small Endeavor podcast. In our conversation, we dive into the origin of why he takes the big questions seriously. We touch on technology and science, discipline and willpower, being present in the moment, and healthy rhythms of life. Lee also shares how podcasting has shaped his work as an academic, how he creates space in conversations, and what he’s learned about life chasing cumulus clouds in the cockpit of a sailplane. “We should ask ourselves the question: What kind of people are we becoming as individuals and as a community by employing any given technology?” – Lee C. Camp Show Links No Small Endeavor Lee C. Camp Jacques Ellul Program or Be Programmed: Eleven Commands for the AI Future by Douglas Rushkoff The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke – No Small Endeavor Cal Newport Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World by Cal Newport Rest: Why You Get More Done When You Work Less by Alex Soojung-Kim Pang The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do to Get More of It by Kelly McGonigal, Ph.D. Ryman Auditorium Sheryl Crow: Becoming Who She Always Was – No Small Endeavor Unabridged Interview: Martin Sheen – No Small Endeavor Self-Compassion: Kristin Neff – No Small Endeavor Strangers in the Land: Exclusion, Belonging, and the Epic Story of the Chinese in America by Michael Luo Photo by Michael & Diane Weidner on Unsplash…

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Thoughts of Time & Trash (GWTW827) 8:41

21 days ago8:41

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Every night before I go to bed, I grab my journal and spend a few minutes writing about the day. Some days there’s a lot to say, while others recount what I wasn’t able to get done. Lately, I’ve noticed a trend. I list four or more things I got done and then follow up with a dismissive statement, “I just wasn’t productive.” If you compare the ambition of my task list with what was actually accomplished, then yes, something is off. But it’s not a lack of productivity, it’s over-scheduling my day. Sure, I could dive into why I do this, but a more interesting question is this: How much of my day is filled with trash? Show Links The Artist’s Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity by Julia Cameron Midjourney prompt for episode art: daily log of time and trash abstract surrealism monochromatic –ar 16:9 –v 7.0…

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“Sustainable Ambition” with Kathy Oneto (GWTW826) 46:11

26 days ago46:11

46:11

How would you define your level of ambition? Are you pushing yourself to change the world or maybe you’re on the other side of failure wondering if you’ll ever be ambitious again? Today’s guest is on Getting Work To Work to talk about a new way to approach our goals, not just in work, but in life. It’s called Sustainable Ambition®. Kathy Oneto is a coach, author, and podcaster whose mission “is to help people craft a life with work for more joy, fulfillment, peace, and ease.” Definitely sounds like something most of us need. In this conversation we talk about several of the principles in her new book, Sustainable Ambition: How to Prioritize What Matters to Thrive in Life and Work : Growing into ourselves and our values, worthy work, life-work sustainability, burnout, and four anchors for redefining success. “How do we redefine success and create opportunities for people where we all feel like we can contribute?” – Kathy Oneto Show Links Sustainable Ambition® Sustainable Ambition: How to Prioritize What Matters to Thrive in Life and Work by Kathy Oneto The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom by Jonathan Haidt Arthur Brooks How the Ivy League Broke America by David Brooks The Gift (Book 2 in The Council Trilogy) by Evette Davis Midjourney prompt for episode art: sustainability ambition moon shot evolving into something new abstract surrealism –ar 16:9 –v 7.0…

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The Infinite Workday?!?! (GWTW825) 11:19

28 days ago11:19

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Not much in the world of work shocks me anymore, but this headline on LinkedIn got me: “The rise of the ‘infinite workday.'” Naturally, I clicked the juicy headline. I had to find out which level of hell this monstrosity came from and what we can do about it. The “reactions” are to an article on Axios (two letters shy of Anxious) by Emily Beck titled Remote work has created an infinite workday. Covering a report from Microsoft, Beck describes a world of work without boundaries, the allure of flexibility, work spanning multiple time zones, pings, dings, distractions—and since it’s Microsoft—the savior of the day? AI. While I’m curious how I can avoid an infinite workday in my own business, I have to ask, what did we expect from a business world driven by profit alone? Here are a few quotes from the article that stood out as important: “The modern workday for many has no clear start or finish” – this was an actual quote from the Work Trend Index Special Report released by Microsoft. “It’s difficult to stay focused during formal business hours.” “A lot of work happens on the fly.” “The inability to unplug is a surefire way to burn out a workforce.” Show Links The rise of the ‘infinite workday’ Welcome to the “Infinite Workday” by Emily Beck The Sukha Company “The Uncommon Way” with Jenna Harrison (GWTW820) Midjourney prompt for episode art: infinite workday surrounded by clocks in the style of salvador dali abstract surrealism technicolor –ar 16:9…

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“Change is the Only Constant” with Tim Packer (GWTW824) 1:17:22

5 weeks ago1:17:22

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The starving artist mentality is alive and well in 2025 as artists are told they’ll never make a living from their work. But today’s guest is living proof that’s a lie. Tim Packer is a former police officer turned celebrated Canadian artist and teacher, who walked away from the badge, cashed in his pension and went all-in on his creative dream. Tim is a natural storyteller and unfolds his entire creative journey for us in this episode. He shares the decisions that led him to becoming a police officer, the tragedy that turned his life toward art, the conversations he had with his wife at inflection points throughout his career, and many other lessons we can all learn from as we build our creative businesses. Show Links Tim Packer Art Academy Download 5 chapters of You Can Sell Your Art: A Step By Step Guide to Make a Livable Income From Your Art by Tim Packer Tim Packer Fine Arts on YouTube King Charles Painting Playlist by Tim Packer Fine Arts Harley Brown Canadian Society of Painters in Water Colour Inside the Actors Studio Brooke Cormier Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol S. Dweck, Ph.D. Gary Vaynerchuck…

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“Technological Resistance Fighter” (GWTW823) 14:37

5 weeks ago14:37

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Have you ever gotten an email from a faceless global corporation and marveled at how it uses words to its advantage? I’m not talking about the legalese in Terms & Conditions or Privacy Policies—we’re all going to click Yes anyway—but the emails justifying prices increases. I can’t even imagine how much money is spent on lawyers and marketers drafting the obligatory price increase email, but that’s besides the point. Today, I’m going on a rant inspired by the faceless global corporations and the forced adoption of AI and other technologies that drive up the cost of doing business. But after the rant, I take an all-too-brief detour through some social criticism courtesy of Neil Postman, who also provided the amazing title for today’s episode in his book, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology . Show Links Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology by Neil Postman Photo by nik radzi on Unsplash…

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“Pleasure Is Our Birthright” with Candia Raquel (GWTW822) 54:46

6 weeks ago54:46

54:46

As someone who sits at a desk for long periods of time every day, I was intrigued when today’s guest reached out with an offering of “3-Keys to Awaken Sensuality In The Midst Of The AI Era.” I was a little confused at first, thinking about sensuality in terms of sexuality, but then I got curious. Candia Raquel is a biologist, sensualist, and artist and she’s on the show to help us get connected with our bodies, while we get our work to work. She defines sensuality as simply being aware of the sensations of your body. Our conversation begins with a deep dive into pleasure and pain, and why one is more appropriate in society than the other. She talks about connecting with our bodies through breath and sighs, how to embody ourselves in a digital world that is increasingly 2-dimensional, and what she has learned from contemplating the trees. And yes, she provides the three keys to unlock sensuality. Show Links Candia Raquel The Sensual Sessions Midjourney prompt for episode art: biological world of trees roots and canopy abstract surrealism –ar 16:9…

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Offload Your Obsession (GWTW821) 8:01

6 weeks ago8:01

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I never considered myself an obsessive person until recently, but in reflection, it’s always been part of my life. It’s like the cognitive bias called the frequency illusion—officially the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon—where you observe something, like a certain type of car, and then see it everywhere. Obsession is part of me, past and present. When I’m working on a project, whether a short film or changing the exhaust fan in my bathroom, it shows up early and often. I try to visualize how everything will play out. I research what I don’t know—poring over instruction manuals, books, and videos—then update my visualization. This behavior has served me well in the past, but lately I’ve noticed an increase in rumination and anxiety. What if there was something I could do to offload my obsession, so I can have some peace and learn to trust myself in the process? A quote from After the Ecstasy, the Laundry: How the Heart Grows Wise on the Spiritual Path by Jack Kornfield: “The true task of spiritual life is not found in faraway places or unusual states of consciousness: It is here in the present. It asks of us a welcoming spirit to greet all that life presents to us with a wise, respectful, and kindly heart.” Three ways to offload your obsession: Get it out of my head and into some sort of system. Document the remaining tasks—as you currently understand them)—that need to be completed. Take action. Show Links After the Ecstasy, the Laundry: How the Heart Grows Wise on the Spiritual Path by Jack Kornfield What’s the Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon? Photo by Heber Davis on Unsplash…

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“The Uncommon Way” with Jenna Harrison (GWTW820) 50:52

7 weeks ago50:52

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Whenever I talk to people that come at life and business in a unique way, I get excited. Today’s guest’s business is called The Uncommon Way and says everything about the type of conversation with are going to have today. Jenna Harrison helps highly-driven women create the business that will be their legacy. Sounds awesome, right? In our conversation, she shares what she learned about the need for meaning in her work when she dropped out of the rat race in her 20s and how that shaped the business and life she has built since then. We talk about the power of constraints, how we can train our minds, why we overwork when we know it doesn’t work, and her five-step process that high-level entrepreneurs can use to rewire their brains and nervous systems to break past revenue plateaus. “It’s not about the hours that we make, it’s about the value we create.” – Jenna Harrison Show Links The Uncommon Way The 3-Day Workweek: Rewire Your Brain & Business For Guilt-Free Work-Life Balance Photo by Claudio Carrozzo on Unsplash…

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Toil in Obscurity (GWTW819) 16:42

7 weeks ago16:42

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How do you know that when your moment shows up, you’ll be ready? Earlier this week, I met up with a friend for tea. I purposely waited to record my monologue because I knew something good would come from our conversation; it always does. My friend is widely creative and curious; he is into everything. He uses digital tools to create analog art. At one point, he talked about developing your craft and the importance of toiling in obscurity. You’ve been doing the work. Day after day. Year after year. No awards. Little recognition. Just the casual amassing of a body of work. That’s how you know you’ll be ready when your moment shows up. 9 Lessons I’ve Learned in Almost a Decade of Producing This Weekly Show: There will always be something to talk about and someone to interview. My voice has changed through age and confidence. The worst interviews were the ones I was most prepared for. In nine years, I was only ghosted by one guest. A like on social media does not translate to a listen of the episode. Most podcasting advice doesn’t apply to someone this far into the journey. The person responsible for the show—both in starting it and helping me maintain the momentum to keep going in the early years—is my good friend, Bruce Elgort. As someone who struggles to make small talk, learning how to talk with strangers all over the world is the highlight of my career. There is a saying gurus like to use to talk about podcasts and YouTube shows, “If you aren’t growing, then you’re dying.” Show Links Bruce Elgort Bend Design Midjourney prompt for episode art: toil in obscurity a warehouse full of pottery cinematic lighting –ar 16:9…

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“An Open Mind to the Future” with Albert Bramante (GWTW818) 43:46

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