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1 Building An AI-Powered Superworker Company: Five Keys To Success 20:49
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I summarize my Irresistible Keynote and explain the five keys to building an AI-powered Superworker company. And as you’ll hear, they revolve around the value of people, not the value of technology. It’s funny how we think AI is “different” and we personify it. It’s basically a tech platform, and if you think about it that way you’ll be much better off. Additional Information No, Entry Level Jobs Are Not Going Away Why AI Is A Job Creator, Not A Job Destroyer Reinvent your Career: Galileo Learn, the AI Learning Academy for HR The Revolution in L&D…
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1 How Mastercard Uses AI to Rewire HR for Employee and Business Performance 19:47
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAnshul Sheopuri , Executive Vice President, People Operations & Insights, Mastercard, talks with Kathi Enderes about the company’s method for using AI in HR. From Build vs Buy decisions and approaches to govern the roll-out of AI to specific examples of use cases, he explains how to use AI strategically across a fast-growing, tech-first company at the forefront of AI innovation—and he gives tips on how to get started. Additional Information Artificial Intelligence in HR: Certificate Course in Galileo Learn The End of HR As We Know It? AI Is Starting To Change Everything. The Rise of the Superworker: Understanding The Deep Impact of AI on Business At the inflection of AI and HR: How we’re equipping employees for the AI era (by Mastercard)…
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1 How WPP, The World's Leading Ad Agency, Is Transforming Itself With AI 40:47
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis is a fascinating conversation with Josh Newman , the Global Head of People Strategy & Experience, at WPP . WPP, the world’s leading advertising agency, has around 100,000 employees and a fascinating agency-specific organization around the world. Josh explains the business and operating model for WPP, and how it became an $8.1 Billion market cap business. Over the last year WPP’s board wanted to look at the workforce and find ways to improve productivity (“the Workforce Intelligence Project”). Josh explains how WPP took this sprawling, high-performance company and developed an enterprise-wide “work-design”, using its own AI and help from a new vendor Reejig, to understand what everyone was doing. This effort enabled WPP to radically simplify its job families and prepare the jobs and roles for the company’s new AI platform, WPP Open. (As you’ll hear, WPP went from 60,000 job titles to fewer than 600 as the company streamlines operations for its new AI platform WPP Open.) This is work simplification at massive scale. This kind of work is now essential to every company as we look for ways to embrace AI. And as you’ll hear, the WPP Workforce Intelligence project has helped people find new jobs, advance their careers, and better pinpoint HR investments in the right place. The end result will be a company with higher growth, profitability, innovation, and client service. If you’re a business leader, HR professional, consultant, or CEO you should listen to this discussion. Josh describes precisely how they accomplished this transformation and explains how AI is “preparing WPP for AI.” Chapters 00:00 Introduction to WPP and Its Role in the Future of Work 05:36 Workforce Intelligence and Job Redesign Project 10:23 Leveraging AI for Job Architecture and Efficiency 15:05 Mapping Roles and Tasks for Enhanced Productivity 20:18 The Concept of M-Shaped Workers 25:11 Validating New Job Structures and Roles 30:19 Business-Driven Workforce Intelligence and Its Impact 35:06 Future-Proofing Organizations Through Continuous Learning Additional Information The Rise of the Superworker: Designing You Company for AI The End of HR As We Know It? AI Is Starting To Change Everything. Galileo Learn: The AI Professional Development Academy for Leaders…
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1 Why AI Is A Job Creator, Not A Job Destroyer 11:02
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedRecent comments from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei claims that we’ll have a “white collar bloodbath” in jobs and 50% of jobs are going away, leading to 20% unemployment. I believe this is completely incorrect, and in this podcast I explain why. Tech leaders may have a distorted perspective because so much of their energies go into pure software development – there’s a much bigger positive effect happening. (The Superworker effect.) Background Why Entry Level Jobs Are Not Going Away The Rise Of The Superworker Axios story…
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1 Cornerstone Galaxy. How To Think About Your Enterprise Learning Platform. 11:59
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I discuss Cornerstone Galaxy , the new, integrated version of Cornerstone, which includes Skyhive, Edcast, Grovo, Tailspin, and other technologies built in. As you’ll hear, Cornerstone is the largest enterprise learning platform company in the world and they’re getting very aggressive with bundling, pricing, and features. At the same time I discuss the role of other competitors such as Docebo, Oracle, Workday, SAP, and the role of Sana and Galileo Learn (our new offering). There’s lots more to discuss, please call us if you’d like help with your LMS | enterprise learning strategy and I urge to read our Revolution in Corporate Learning comprehensive study on how AI can totally reinvent your corporate learning, enablement, and skills strategy. Additional Information The Revolution in Corporate Learning (research report) Galileo Learn – A Revolutionary Approach To Corporate Learning…
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1 Tanuj Kapilashrami, Chief Strategy Officer at Standard Chartered 35:20
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis is a fascinating and essential podcast about leadership, AI, HR, and business transformation, featuring Tanuj Kapilashrami , the CHRO and Chief Strategy Officer of Standard Chartered. In this conversation, Tanuj talks about the strategic direction of Standard Chartered Bank, her role as Chief Strategy and Talent Officer, and the importance of aligning organizational capabilities with business strategy. She discusses the transformation of work processes, the integration of AI, and the evolving role of HR in the banking sector. Tanuj explains the role of job architecture and the importance of skills in driving organizational success, and she also clearly explains the future role of the CHRO. The CHRO role has risen tremendously in the last two decades. Tanuj is an inspirational example of a CHRO who has taken her experience in all areas of human capital management to become a powerful chief strategy officer, a career transition which will become much more common in the future. You will also hear how Tanuj views the AI transformation and how she puts a clear business focus on the AI strategy, moving far beyond AI as a tool to streamline HR. (Listen to her discussion about AI in performance management and how the “AI Sandpit” works at Standard Chartered.) Listen also to Tanuj’s focus on “plumbing,” as the foundation for business growth and transformation. Takeaways Standard Chartered is a cross-border bank focused on emerging markets. The role of Chief Strategy and Talent Officer is crucial for aligning strategy with capabilities. Transformation should be a core part of the organizational DNA. Skills development must be integrated into work redesign. AI can enhance productivity across various job types. Job architecture needs to evolve with changing business needs. A centralized approach to AI strategy is essential for scalability. HR must embrace technology to remain relevant. Understanding the operational aspects of HR is critical for strategic success. Curiosity and continuous learning are vital for HR leaders. Sound Bites “Transformation is such an abused word.” “Skills come in at a work redesign level.” “Humans will lose out to other humans who use machines.” “AI cannot be empathetic as humans can be.” “Get comfortable as a team playing in the sand pit.” “It’s the plumbing that matters.” Chapters 00:00 Overview of Standard Chartered Bank 02:49 The Role of Chief Strategy and Talent Officer 05:52 Aligning Strategy with Organizational Capabilities 08:46 Transforming Work Processes and Skills 12:07 Navigating Job Architecture and AI Integration 14:56 AI Strategy and Implementation in Banking 17:54 The Future of HR in the Age of AI 21:13 Advice for Aspiring CHROs Additional Information Our New CHRO Insights Research Yes, HR Organizations Will (Partially) Be Replaced by AI, And That’s Good The White Collar Recession Is Real: What Should We Do About It? The Rise of the Superworker: Reinventing Jobs, Careers, and Organizations…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWelcome to Galileo Learn, the world’s first AI-native platform for all areas of corporate learning and professional development. And yes, Galileo Learn is also the new, dynamic version of The Josh Bersin Academy, and also your personal professional development coach. As the world’s first AI native platform for learning, Galileo Learn delivers an exciting new learning experience and the most dynamic, productive way to build content in the market. And in an exciting new innovation, Galileo Learn connects directly to Galileo , the world’s AI Assistant for HR and Managers. Read more here: Buy Galileo Learn . Learn more about The Revolution in L&D .…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I dig into digital twins and AI and why I believe the “pedagogical” approach to corporate learning is going away. While we will always have educational programs in business, the L&D world is going in a wild new, positive direction. This podcast explains the forgetting curve, spaced learning, and what I call “the curiosity cycle” in business. Does this mean “the death of courseware?” In some ways the answer is yes, so listen in. Additional Information Galileo Now Embedded Into ServiceNow and HiBob The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents The White Collar Recession Is Real: What Should We Do About It? A Revolution In Corporate Learning Begins, Join The Journey…
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1 AI Creates High-Scale, High-Quality Recruitment Process at Foundever 19:18
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode we hear from Irena Flego Maric , Global Talent Acquisition Leader and HR Technology Strategist at Foundever , one of the largest customer service companies in the world. She describes how the company is transforming its highly demanding recruitment process with next-gen AI. The company uses Maki People’s AI-powered solution to manage massive scale of hiring, sometimes recruiting 2,000 customer service reps over a weekend while handling millions of applications each month. And every candidate is assessed against the job. Foundever uses Maki’s AI to create personalized, skills-based assessments that provide candidates realistic job previews , engaging candidates in the process. As you’ll hear, this kind of “skills-based assessment” creates a highly positive candidate experience, enabling Foundever to find the best candidates at enormous scale. Additional Information Maximizing the Impact of AI in the Age of the Superworker Talent Acquisition at a Crossroads (Academy course) Emerging Trends in Talent Acquisition: Factbook…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I discuss the total re-engineering of HR and business software and why the “functional application” approach is going to be destroyed by workflow-oriented systems. I apologize for the slightly awkward voice, I recorded this on a long walk this morning! I discuss ServiceNow , Maki People , Galileo , Hubspot , Salesforce , HiBob , Workday , SAP , Paradox , and many other innovative systems. Come to Irresistible 2025 in a few weeks to hear and see more! Additional Information Galileo Now Embedded Into ServiceNow and HiBob The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents Podcast: The Galileo Inside Strategy Q&A: Get Galileo for ServiceNow Q&A: Get Galileo for HiBob…
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1 Galileo Now Embedded Within ServiceNow and HiBob 6:24
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week we announce the deep integration of Galileo , the world’s AI Assistant for HR, into ServiceNow (Now Assist) and the fast-growing HCM system HiBob . This means you can now access Galileo in the flow of work. Additional Information Announcement Details The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents Q&A: Get Galileo for ServiceNow Q&A: Get Galileo for HiBob…
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1 Welcome To AI Agent World! (Everything you need to know about the AI Agent market.) 25:33
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week, in advance of major announcements from us and other vendors, I give you a good overview of the AI Agent market, and discuss the new role of AI governance platforms, AI agent development tools, AI agent vendors, and how AI agents will actually manifest and redefine what we call an “application.” I discuss ServiceNow, Microsoft, SAP, Workday, Paradox , Maki People , and other vendors. My goal today is to “demystify” this space and explain the market, the trends, and why and how your IT department is going to be building a lot of the agents you need. And prepare for our announcements next week! Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI Agents and Market Trends 02:55 Understanding Intelligent Agents and Their Applications 05:48 The Role of Agents in HR and Business Workflows 09:09 Agent Management and Governance Challenges 11:46 ServiceNow’s Evolution and AI Integration 15:06 The Future of Custom Agent Development 17:55 Upcoming Events and Industry Insights 20:46 The Impact of AI on HR and Workforce Dynamics Additional Information The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents The End of HR As We Know It (long read on AI’s impact on HR) The Rise of The Superworker: Four Stages of AI Explainer Video Microsoft Launches People Skills In Copilot, Altering The HR Tech Market Irresistible 2025: Join Us (almost full)…
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1 Dara Engle, CHRO of ORIX, Describes Global HR Governance 19:20
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode of the WhatWorks podcast, Dara Engle , CHRO of ORIX USA, speaks with Kathi Enderes to explore the power of systemic HR in transforming a global organization. Discover how Dara navigates the complexities of leading HR in a multinational context, leveraging her extensive experience to drive strategic alignment and transformation. From building resilient cultures to managing change in a fast-paced environment and coaching senior executives, Dara shares invaluable insights and advice for HR leaders and aspiring CHROs. Additional Information Systemic HR: The New Operating Model Designed for the Age of AI…
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1 Is The HR Profession As We Know It Doomed? In A Way The Answer is Yes. 32:03
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this week’s podcast I discuss my meetings with many companies in Europe about “how to rapidly implement AI” to improve productivity and scale. And every single company is being asked to do this now, some with very mature and sophisticated plans. So the first question I ask is “how do we implement AI to improve the productivity of the company” and then “how do we also do this within HR?” Well now that we’re a few years into this journey, the land mines and lessons are becoming clear, and I discuss what’s going on in some of the largest companies in the world. And yes, everything you know about HR itself is changing at a rate I’ve never seen before. The second question I discuss is “what is about to happen to Corporate Learning?” And in this case I walk through the large session I had at the L&D Tech conference and how radically L&D is about to be revolutionized. A big research report on this is coming soon, but in the podcast I discuss “the end of the publishing model” in L&D, and all that implies. For those of you still a bit confused by AI and Agents in general, I urge you to Get Galileo , our ready-made AI assistant for HR. You’ll learn everything you need to know about agents and you’ll also have the world’s best “digital HR consultant” at your desk. Come see us at Unleash Vegas or Irresistible over the next few weeks, and next week I’ll cover some more in-depth case studies I want to share. Sound Bites “AI threatens the HR profession as we know it.” “Every employee is going to have their own large language model.” “We need to redesign the work to use AI.” “The AI push is forcing us to clean up our roles.” “AI can change 70 to 80% of the L&D process.” “This is a revolution, not a step change.” Additional Information Microsoft Skills Agent Disrupts the Skills Tech Market The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents The White Collar Recession Is Real: What Should We Do About It?…
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1 What Does AI-Native Mean? How "AI-First" Apps Change HR. 20:50
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I discuss this massive shift toward “AI-Native” applications and systems which are radically different from traditional HR Tech, with a particular focus on L&D. I also explain how new AI architectures are so completely different from our traditional types of HR platforms, and how vendors have to be more expansive with their thinking. Vendors here include Sana, Degreed, Docebo, CodeSignal, Arist, Uplimit, and many other pioneers to come. (I recorded this on a walk today so it sounds like I’m outside, but hopefully you enjoy the new ideas here.) I’m going to be diving into this at L&D Technology in UK this week and much more at Unleash Vegas the first week in May. Additional Information The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents A Revolution In Corporate Learning Begins, Join The Journey…
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1 Transforming The Talent Acquisition Function at NHS, UK 18:37
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAlfredo Thompson , Chief People Officer at Royal United Hospitals Bath, NHS Foundation Trust, talks with Kathi Enderes about how he is leading an end-to-end transformation of talent acquisition and onboarding for the Trust. Built on principles of customer orientation and systemic HR®, the organization shifted recruitment from a compliance-oriented fulfillment center to a business growth function , using a combination of mindset shift, process redesign, technology enablement, and cross-functional collaboration. The results are outstanding, significantly reducing the healthcare organization’s vacancy rates and increasing employee retention while also improving hiring manager and candidate satisfaction. Additional Information Emerging Trends in Talent Acquisition: Factbook Talent Acquisition at a Crossroads Systemic HR Overview Transforming the NHS, by Sonia Mooney…
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1 How AI Is Blowing Up The Corporate Learning Market: The Whole Story 36:24
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I detail the whole story: how the $360 billion corporate learning market is being blown up by AI . This tidal wave has now arrived, with every major company asking “how can I get rid of a third of my training department and deliver skills faster in the flow of work?” What happens to the Chief Learning Officer? What happens to the LMS? Is Instructional Design going away? What happens to needs analysis? And What are the new jobs in L&D being created? And in this new world, will we even call it “Learning and Development” any more? In this podcast I explain the history, the new role of AI, and the ten top implications for L&D, training professionals, HR teams, and employees around the world. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI in Learning and Development 03:01 The Business Landscape and AI’s Role 06:04 The History of Learning and Development 08:53 Challenges in Learning and Development 11:45 The Future of Learning with AI 15:05 Transforming Learning and Development Practices 17:56 The Impact of AI on Corporate L&D Teams 21:11 Redefining what L&D does 24:06 Dynamic Learning Systems and AI Architectures 26:48 A Fundamental Shift in Learning and Development Paradigms 30:10 Don’t Get Caught In The Past Additional Information The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents A Revolution In Corporate Learning Begins, Join Us On The Journey New Research: Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO Artificial Intelligence in HR (Josh Bersin Academy) The Rise of the Superworker: Delivering On The Promise Of AI…
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1 The Galileo™ Mercury Release: Reasoning, Talent Intelligence & More 12:13
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIntroducing the Galileo Mercury Release: a new reasoning model, extensive new data and information from Lightcast, the Universal Competency Framework from SHL, and our first “consultant mode” feature, Intelligent Benchmarking. Galileo is now the essential AI tool for HR professionals around the world. Get Galileo Today!…
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1 The Impact Of "Tariff Liberation Day" on Human Resources 19:28
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week the economic environment changed, with new US reciprocal tariffs launched on 180 countries. The net impact, which is hard to predict, is lots of strategy discussions about manufacturing, redeployment of resources, price increases, and possible economic slowdown. In today’s podcast I explain what this means to you, as an HR leader or HR professional. Additional Information The White Collar Recession Is Real: What Should We Do About It? The Rise of the Superworker: Reinventing Jobs, Careers, and Organizations The Organization Design SuperClass (Certificate Program) Systemic HR: The Lean, Mean HR Department…
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1 Are You An Innovative HR Officer? Hear From Jörg Dersch of XPAY 19:35
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedJörg Dersch, CHRO at XPAY, joins Kathi Enderes to discusses innovation in HR and how CHRO’s can stay ahead. He also shares advice to CEOs about their role in HR issues. He shares his journey into HR leadership and how HR leaders can become true strategic partners in their organizations. From navigating digital transformation to building business acumen, Jörg offers valuable insights into what it takes to succeed in today’s highly-innovative, tech-enabled HR landscape. Jörg’s advice – “You own the company. Operate as if the company is your company” XPay is a fintech company that offers various payment solutions, including international payments APIs, embedded payment solutions, and white-label payment card solutions, aiming to simplify and streamline payment processing for businesses. Additional Information New Research: Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO CHRO Insights Research Report CHRO Insights Benchmarking Survey CHRO Insights Video ( Youtube ) CHRO Insights Program Overview…
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1 Does Kindness Matter In Business? Today, Yes, More Than Ever. 16:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat’s the solution to political, economic, and global conflict? It’s not more anger and competition, it’s kindness. In this podcast I try to convince you that Kindness, the act of listening, caring, and helping, is a real secret weapon. Additional Information The World Happiness Report (which proves that trust and social connections matter more than money) Edelman Trust Barometer 2025: Crisis of Grievance Kindness at Work: Our Research and UC Berkeley Research Irresistible: The Seven Secrets of the World’s Most Enduring, Employee-Focused Organizations (my book) The Atlantic Article I mention…
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1 U.S. Tariffs Force CHROs to Rethink Talent Strategy—Are You Ready? 10:22
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday I wanted to briefly discuss the impact of US Tariffs on manufacturing talent. As many of you know, decisions about where to locate manufacturing are very big and very important. As you’ll hear, much of your company’s response may come down to talent and skills issues, since manufacturing skills are in short supply. I hope this conversation helps you think through the fast-changing economic issues our companies face. Additional Information New Certificate Program: Building A Skills Strategy That Works Job Redesign Around AI: Work Intelligence Tools Arrive Understanding Talent Intelligence: A Primer How To Take A Pragmatic (and winning) Approach To Skills…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday I talk with Vijay Swaminathan, the CEO and co-founder of Draup , one of the most amazing data and insights providers in HR. Vijay and his partner Vamsee Tirukkala were the original founders of Talent Neuron, a pioneer in talent planning. Now, with Draup, they’ve gone an order of magnitude beyond to build a data platform that identifies skills, technologies, competitors, labor market trends, and a myriad of financial and organizational data to help companies benchmark themselves, plan, hire, and prepare for AI transformation. You’ll learn a lot about skills inference, workloads, and much more about the role of data and talent intelligence in all areas of HR. For more information on AI transformation, read some of the links below and sign up for our new Josh Bersin Academy course “ Building a Skills Strategy That Works .” Additional Information New Certificate Program: Building A Skills Strategy That Works Job Redesign Around AI: Work Intelligence Tools Arrive Understanding Talent Intelligence: A Primer How To Take A Pragmatic (and winning) Approach To Skills…
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1 The Revolution In Corporate Learning Begins: Join The Crusade 19:12
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I describe the massive AI-powered revolution starting in corporate L&D, and give you some history, context, and a mandate for the future. This is based on a massive research program we’ve been doing for the last year and I’m now convinced that this entire $360 Billion market is going to reinvent itself. Vendors mentioned include Sana, Uplimit, Docebo, Arist, CodeSignal, 360Learning, Cornerstone, LinkedIn, Microsoft, as well as Workday, SAP, and Oracle. This is a huge space so I can’t cover them all but we will be launching much more on the Corporate Learning Revolution in the coming months. If you want to experience this revolution, join The Josh Bersin Academy and get Galileo because we’ll be exposing you to all this soon. If you’re a vendor and you want us to know about your fantastic innovations, please reach out here and we’ll talk with you. As you’ll hear in the podcast, I see this as one of the most exciting applications of AI in the coming years, so stay tuned and join us in the revolution ! Additional Information Learning in the Age of AI Benchmarking Study A Revolution In Corporate Learning Begins, Join Us On The Journey Please join me at the L&D Technology Conference on April 23 in London Irresistible: The Global Conference for HR Leaders And Their Teams…
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1 CodeSignal: Groundbreaking AI Skills Assessment Arrives 20:32
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedTigran Sloyan, CEO of CodeSignal , talks with Kathi Enderes about his company’s mission to transform skills assessment and development with AI. He shares insights from his experience at Google, where he recognized flaws in hiring practices that prioritize resumes over actual skills. Tigran explains how CodeSignal evolved from technical skills assessments to AI-driven personalized learning. He emphasizes the importance of a skills-based approach and using generative AI to make skills development more engaging. And as you’ll hear, it’s now possible to assess an employee’s skills through conversational AI. Additional Information Definitive Guide to Dynamic Organizations Building a Skills Strategy That Works Why Are Some Companies More Dynamic Than Others? Assess and Develop Your Skills in HR: The Global Capability Assessment…
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1 Tasks vs. Skills: Stories In AI-Based Job Transformation 19:44
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedEveryone is talking about productivity, layoffs, and job redesign. In this week’s podcast I share much of what we’re learning in AI-based job design, all with a focus on productivity. I discuss the role of Reejig , Gloat , Draup and the shift from “ skills-based organizatio n” strategies to “ task and activity ” redesign. And I also share my experiences with the “chainsaw” model of layoffs. Additional Information Busting Bureaucracy: Are Layoffs The Only Way To Go? How To Create Talent Density The Road To AI-Driven Productivity: Four Stages of Transformation Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 How CHROs Shape The Workforce Of The Future: Caryn McGarry of ICF 18:06
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode of the WhatWorks podcast, Caryn McGarry, CHRO of ICF, describes her journey to CHRO how she manages HR in a highly competitive professional services company. Caryn shares insights on the detailed nature of the C-suite partnership and how her unique career path contributes to her C-level business role today. ICF is a large professional services company headquartered in Washington, DC with over 7,000 employees globally. Additional Information Why Is It So Hard To Be A Chief HR Officer (CHRO)? New Research: Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO Systemic HR Overview How Systemic HR shapes TomTom’s Strategic HR Journey…
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1 Bonus Episode: What Happened To Our Sense Of Trust? 16:11
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAfter an intense week in Europe at an HR Technology conference, I want to share my deep perspectives on Trust, which is in very short supply these days. Not only do European leaders mistrust the US right now, the Edelman Trust Barometer shows that 2/3 of employees no longer trust the CEOs of their own companies. In an effort to help you think this through, I share the three dimensions of trust and give you some important things to think about in your own career and in your role as an HR professional, leader, friend, or advisor to other leaders in your company. Additional Information 2025 Edelman Trust Barometer: A Crisis of Grievance Citizenship At Work: Dealing With Politics Inside and Outside The Company (podcast) Corporate Citizenship Defined: Trust, Inclusion, and Responsibility Giving Voice to Values: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy…
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After a long week of meetings about AI transformation with many companies, I want to highlight the big paradox we face. On one hand, AI is now seen as a proven, pragmatic solution to productivity, growth, and customer experience. So every company is pushing for AI transformations in every domain. But on the other hand, AI is also likely to eliminate many routine jobs, already leading to a white-collar recession. (White collar and college educated workers are having a hard time finding new jobs.) How do we deal with this paradox? Listen in and I’ll tell you the story, and also explain how companies are redesigning their entire job architectures to accommodate the AI change. Additional Information First HR AI Success Metrics Beyond “Saving Time” Emerge from Josh Bersin Company Analysis The Rise of the Superworker : AI Imperatives for 2025 Meet Galileo, your essential AI assistant for everything HR .…
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1 AI Transformation From The Frontlines: Lessons Learned, Why Employees Are Worried 20:40
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I summarize some of the hard-hitting AI transformation and productivity stories we’re hearing from clients, and I explain the various ways to approach these topics. I also discuss the surprising pushback on DEI and how workforce fear and stress has risen in our companies. All this leads to a new and important new role for HR leaders: driving and leading the push toward productivity and automation throughout the company. And finally I try to give you some perspective on the Elon Musk DOGE work going on in Washington and how this impacts our business strategies. Additional Information Busting Bureaucracy: Are Layoffs The Only Way To Go? New Research: Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO Despite Political Firestorm, Diversity Investments Are Alive And Well The Rise Of The Superworker: Delivering On The Promise of AI Edelman Trust Barometer 2025 Resources For You The Organization Design SuperClass (Josh Bersin Academy certificate program) Elevating Equity: Comprehensive Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Get Galileo®, The Essential AI Assistant For Everything HR…
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1 AI Arrives In Corporate Learning: Welcome to Arist 18:06
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I interview CEO of Arist Michael Ioffe, one of the most innovative entrepreneurs I’ve met. Michael and his team have built an astounding message-based learning platform that uses AI to build content, distribute content, and even do needs analysis. For those of you who are L&D or learning geeks, you really need to listen to this podcast. Arist was developed for “learning in the war zone,” and that’s pretty much what business is like. Additional Information Experience Arist: HR Predictions and Imperatives for 2025 (Josh Bersin Academy – Free) Autonomous Corporate Learning Platforms: Arriving Now, Powered by AI The Rise of the Superworker: Delivering On The Promise Of AI…
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1 Don't Blame The Workers. Let's Be Honest About Productivity and Bureaucracy 20:59
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I share perspectives on the huge theme of “taking a chainsaw to bureaucracy” and improving productivity. Is it fair to “ Blame the Workers ” for the bureaucracy we face? There is a growing trend toward strategic layoffs and workforce redeployment around AI, and this is just the beginning. But rather than blaming the workers for the problem, I suggest the problem starts at the top. When leaders over-hire, fail to clarify goals, and under-invest in strong leadership alignment, bureaucracy grows as a result. Along our new theme of “Creating the Superworker Organization,” I try to explain a new way of thinking about this challenge, and push for CEOs and CHROs to take responsibility. Additional Information The Rise of the Superworker: Delivering On The Promise Of AI New Research: Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO The Road To AI-Driven Productivity: Four Stages of Transformation…
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1 CHRO Insights: Arne-Christian Van Der Tang, HR Leader at TomTom 19:06
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like Liked“The moment your HR organization can be ‘replicated’ into another company, you’ve failed as a CHRO.” In this podcast Arne-Christian explains why the CHRO is no longer an HR leader, but now a business transformation executive. Arne-Christian describes his career path to becoming a CHRO, identifies the key behaviors and characteristics that helped him become a high-performing CHRO, and discusses the evolving role of the CHRO and how it can shape the journey to Systemic HR®. He also provides actionable guidance for rising HR leaders, current CHROs, and CEOs to create business impact. If you’re a senior HR leader and would like to join our podcast, please reach out to us. Additional Information Why Is It So Hard To Be A Chief HR Officer (CHRO)? New Research: Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO CHRO Insights Research Report CHRO Insights Benchmarking Survey CHRO Insights Video ( Youtube )…
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1 Jamie Dimon's Town Hall And What It Means (And Is Elon Musk Right?) 20:33
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I want to talk about Jamie Dimon’s recent town-hall at JP Morgan Chase . He describes his frustration with remote work, bureaucracy, and lack of productivity in vivid language. As you’ll hear from my comments, I have 100% sympathy for his feelings, but the answer is not as simple as forcing people into the office or laying off 10% of the workforce. Stay tuned I promise you’ll learn something. This is a problem in job design, culture, middle management roles, and overly complex job architecture. And we’re witnessing this precise situation with layoffs at Salesforce, Workday, Meta, and other fast-growing companies. Additional Information New Research: Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO Understanding Organization Design AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 Secrets Of The High-Performing CHRO: It's Harder Than It Looks 20:50
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this week’s podcast I introduce our new research on the important and fast-changing role of CHRO, or Chief People Officer. Over the last decade this role has exploded in scope and importance, leaving many CEOs and CHROs working to keep up. After a year of research studying the career history and performance of more than 20,000 senior HR leaders, I explain how the role has changed and share our new research on the backgrounds, experiences, and capabilities of the world’s leading Chief HR Officers. If you’re a senior HR leader, please join our benchmarking survey to learn more. Additional Information New Research Unlocks Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO (article) CHRO Insights Research Report CHRO Insights Benchmarking Survey CHRO Insights Video ( Youtube )…
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1 Welcome to Enterprise AI: Multi-Functional Agents Change Everything 22:38
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I discuss the rapid evolution of AI Agents in the Enterprise, and how they’re starting to replace billions of dollars of legacy enterprise software. It won’t happen overnight, but using our four-stage model, companies are rapidly looking at ways to use AI platforms to assist, automate, and integrate business workflows in ways that ERP and HCM systems failed. (PS: this disruption is why Workday and Salesforce just had layoffs.) The four stages are discussed in The Rise of the Superworker . And you can get all the details in Galileo . Additional Information Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere The AI Trailblazers! HR Technology Outlook 2025. AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 Lloyds Banking Group Describes Its $3B Business and Talent Transformation 18:43
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedLloyds Banking Group, the largest bank in the UK, is undergoing a £3 Billion business transformation focused on enhancing customer experiences, integrating products and services, and leveraging technology to improve service delivery. Holly Quincey , Chief Talent Officer, describes the company’s accompanying talent transformation, particularly its skills-based hiring strategy. Talent Acquisition: This includes bringing executive hiring and leadership development in-house, saving millions. A program called “Prescient” was developed for the top 340 leaders, incorporating tools like Hogan and Raven assessments, 360 feedback, and external benchmarking to build leadership capabilities and align with future skills needs. Cultural Transformation: Lloyds is shifting from siloed thinking to a more collaborative, customer-obsessed, and growth-oriented culture. This involves fostering a mindset where the bank sees itself as a tech company that does banking, rather than a traditional bank with good technology. Recruitment and Workforce Planning: The recruitment function was remodeled in 2024, with a focus on reducing agency dependency and aligning talent acquisition with strategic workforce planning. This included hiring leaders with experience in campaign hiring and demand planning. Financial and Operational Impact: The transformation has already generated significant financial savings, including £20 million in 2024 alone from in-house initiatives like talent acquisition and leadership development. The organization continues to hire thousands annually while embedding innovation and efficiency across its operations. This WhatWorks interview will give listeners the inspiration to “think big” in your end-to-end talent transformation strategy. Additional Information Leadership Development Insights , Human-Centered Leadership, Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Why Are Some Companies More Dynamic than Others?…
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1 Can Executive Orders Drive Change? Or Do We Think About Change Differently? 17:15
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedChange and transformation is the theme for 2025. 53% of CEOs believe their company will not exist in ten years, with iconic brands like Starbucks, Boeing, Nike, Intel, Southwest, and Target going through turnarounds. And 93% of CEOs believe AI will totally transform their operating model. ( PwC CEO Survey .) At the same time we’re witnessing a massive “change management” push in the US Federal Government, driven by 200+ executive orders and other communications. The big issue i discuss is “will this form of change even work?” Do “Executive Orders” help people understand and embrace mandates for change? While political change is not the right model for business, I want to point out how risky this approach may be. Putting aside political issues themselves, I think we’re about to learn a big lesson on “how to create enduring change.” Yes, sometimes things have to happen fast, but in most cases culture is built over years and individuals must be included in the process. And that goes for AI transformation too, as I discuss in the podcast. If you want to learn more about the topic of change, I encourage you to check out our Josh Bersin Academy program “Change Agility.” And please read my book Irresistible , which is now one of the highest rated business books on Amazon. Additional Information Despite Political Firestorm, Diversity Investments Are Alive And Well The Rise Of The Superworker: Delivering On The Promise of AI Elevating Equity: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Get Galileo®, The Essential AI Assistant For Everything HR…
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1 How Booz Allen Creates Validated Skills With Scale And Precision 20:26
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedJim Hemgen , Director of Talent Development at Booz Allen Hamilton, talks with Kathi Enderes about how the company creates validated skills across hundreds of domains, including AI. This success story defines the journey for every company. Using skills validation provided by Workera , and content from Udemy and HackerRank , Booz Allen has created a highly trusted, validated skills process that credentials employees in a trusted and verified manner. And Jim explains how he works with these vendors to put together a powerful, working solution. As you’ll hear, the key to success is engaging managers (and employees) to encourage learning and focus on the most important new skills. Jim also describes how story-telling and rewards contribute to the company’s success in ongoing skills development. Today more than one third of Booz Allen staff have completed validated credentials for their career. Sign up today for our newest course “ Building a Skills Strategy that Works ,” filled with case studies and a step-by-step guide to skills-based learning, recruiting, development, and career management. Additional Information How To Take A Pragmatic (and winning) Approach To Skills The Rise of the Superworker: Delivering On The Promise Of AI AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 DEI Firestorm and Alarming Decline In Trust Defines Our 2025 Mandate 18:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this conversation, I discuss the DEI firestorm, the evolution and current state of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives in the corporate world, the alarming decline in trust towards businesses, and the necessity for companies to reinvent themselves in the face of changing market dynamics and the rise of the ‘super worker’. I also explain how much of our HR research is now clearly playing out in the PwC CEO Survey, which puts a financial picture on much of our HR and workplace research. Takeaways DEI programs have historical roots and are essential for business. The political climate has influenced DEI initiatives significantly. Trust in business has seen a significant decline recently. Many employees feel disillusioned with the American dream. Reinvention is crucial for companies to thrive in the future. Companies that redeploy talent see better financial outcomes. The Edelman Trust Barometer reveals alarming trends in public trust. Diverse and inclusive workplaces lead to better performance. The rise of AI is transforming business operations. Engagement in DEI is a business necessity, not just a social agenda. Important Resources The Rise Of The Superworker: Delivering On The Promise of AI January 28 Predictions Webinar Edelman Trust Barometer 2025 PwC 2025 CEO Survey Get Galileo®, The Essential AI Assistant For Everything HR…
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1 How To Become An AI Pacesetter: Superworker Explained 20:43
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I explain the four-stages of AI transformation and detail why and how “AI Pacesetters” will far outperform others in their AI business transformations. The Rise of the Superworker research explains this in more detail. The Rise of the Superworker predictions report is available to all users of Galileo , The Josh Bersin Academy , or Corporate Members . (A Galileo Pro membership is only $39 per month, and JBA membership is $49 per month.) If you want to learn more and follow our ongoing case studies, briefs, and AI tools, download the Rise of the Superworker Overview today. You will be registered for regular updates. And please register for our launch webinar where I will detail this entire story. Chapters 00:00 The Super Worker Effect and AI Transformation 06:54 Re-engineering Work with AI 13:14 Change Management and Training for AI Adoption 17:14 The Future of Work in an AI-Driven World Additional Information Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 The Rise Of The Superworker: Delivering On The Promise of AI 20:39
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow do you deliver on the promise of AI in your team, your company, and your career? Welcome to The Rise of the Superworker, our new research on the organizational adoption of AI. This research explains how organizations and leaders can redesign work, jobs, and customer experiences to deliver on the promise of AI. And as you’ll hear, job opportunities will expand for everyone. AI is not a technology to eliminate jobs, rather its a platform to empower every role. And the result will be orders of magnitude improvements in revenue, productivity, service, and creativity. Download the Infographic overview here . You can get the detailed report by subscribing to our AI platform Galileo , joining The Josh Bersin Academy , or our joining our Corporate Membership . Additional Information The Rise of the Superworker: In-Depth Article AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Galileo Professional, The AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 PayPal Builds New Manager Capabilities with Precision Development 21:20
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow do you build precision leadership skills at scale? Kendra Goldbas , Global Head of Learning & Development at PayPal, describes the world-class new manager development program at PayPal, MAPS (Managing at PayPal Successfully). During the pandemic PayPal grew rapidly and needed a world-class leadership development program for remote leaders. The MAPS program, which is based on “learn | practice | teach,” builds managerial skills quickly. The program starts with a 6-week cohort based learning experience covering technical and leadership topics, and then encourages leaders to focus on a six-month precision development journey. By encouraging leaders to focus on “one major skill,” the company creates a high level of accountability and continuous growth. The company uses Growthspace’s precision development platform to personalize leadership skills across the entire company. Additional Information The Surprising Facts About Leadership Development , Human-Centered Leadership , Why Are Some Companies More Dynamic Than Others? Leading with impact: How PayPal is shaping its new managers with Growthspace…
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1 Welcome to HR in 2025: The Five Big Challenges Ahead 21:39
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWelcome to 2025, where I discuss the five big challenges ahead. These include (1) economic uncertainties, bifurcated labor market, (2) the impact of AI on the workforce and the Rise of Superworkers, (3) the new “soup” of issues in employee experience, which lands in HR’s lap, (4) the changing nature of leadership and leadership development, and (5) the urgent need to HR transformation from the inside out. Every CEO, CHRO, and individual HR professional is going to deal with these five challenges, and I hope this roadmap helps you prioritize your time in the year ahead. Remember that Galileo , The Josh Bersin Academy , and our corporate membership services are here to help! Additional Resources A Tumultuous Year Behind: A Challenging, Important 2025 (the 2025 article in detail) Introducing The AI Trailblazers! HR Technology Outlook 2025. AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Introducing Systemic HR® The Road to AI-Powered Productivity: Four Stages of Transformation Galileo Professional, The AI Assistant for Everything HR Systemic HR and Galileo are registered trademarks of The Josh Bersin Company.…
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1 Galileo™ Speaks! Are You Ready For The AI Onslaught In 2025? 22:48
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWelcome to 2025. Today I give you a sneak preview of Galileo as a voice assistant , powered by our upcoming mobile app. And I give you a preview of your enormous 2025 role in embracing, adopting, and optimizing the use of AI in your company. I highlight three major themes for the year. First, the use of intelligent agents in your own work throughout HR; second, the new world of “productivity-based job design,” which will create enormous changes in job titles, roles, structures, and skills; third, the exciting new dynamic cultural shifts required in organizations to facilitate this transformation. Throughout this conversation I discuss many of the “ 100 Use Cases for Galileo in HR ” which details many of the exciting innovations you can bring to your company this year. And at the end I share a brief conversation I had with Galileo, the AI-Powered Assistant for Everything HR . Additional Resources How AI Will Revolutionize The HR Department, In Detai l. E205 (Podcast) Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere Introducing The AI Trailblazers! HR Technology Outlook 2025. Can AI Do Performance Reviews? Rippling Says Yes. AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 WhatWorks: Mastercard Evolves To Systemic HR™ - E193 21:12
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode of the WhatWorks podcast series, Nick Benaquista, SVP, People and Capability Partner, Chief Administration Office and Strategic Growth at Mastercard, shares how Mastercard has transformed HR from a static, siloed, overlapping model towards the product and consulting-oriented model of Systemic HR . Now in year 2 of the ongoing transformation, the company is continuing to change HR roles, jobs, operating models, and skills, and is using technology and AI to elevate the employee experience and its continuous business transformation. Interviewee Nick Benaquista, SVP, People and Capability Partner, Chief Administration Office and Strategic Growth at Mastercard Company Mastercard, a leading US-based global payment solutions provider with 33,000 employees Additional Information The Systemic HR Operating Model Why The World Needs A New Operating Model for Human Resources The Mastercard HR Transformation Story Keywords: Employee Experience, HR Technology, Systemic HR, AI in HR, HR capabilities, HR roles…
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1 Digital Twins, AI-Powered ERP, Agentic Tools, AI War Against Candidates E192 22:34
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhite collar robots have arrived: digital twins, digital assistants, and AI-powered agents. In this podcast I discuss what I learned about at Unleash, Sana, and Spotify this week. My big message is this: AI in HR is even more powerful than we expected. And AI platforms and tools are transforming HR right this minute – across every domain in HR. Digital Twins in the insurance industry. AI-powered L&D and change management solutions. AI-powered candidates battling it out with AI-powered selection and recruiting platforms. Scheduling bots unleashing energy in healthcare. End-to-end employee knowledge and learning systems at Spotify. For two years we’ve watched AI evolve from predictive analytics to AI assistants to AI agents to Digital Twins. And these tools are now here for you to use, as long as you just get your hands dirty trying these tools out. Bottom line: this is no longer a market of waiting for just the right solution – many of the new AI tools in HR can already do much more than you expected. Get your hands on Galileo and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Additional Information Introducing The AI Trailblazers! HR Technology Outlook 2025. Introducing Galileo Professional, Your Personal AI Assistant for HR Can AI Do Performance Reviews? Rippling Says Yes.…
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1 What Works: Delta Air Lines Unveils Its Skills-First Strategy E191 18:56
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedDelta Air Lines understands the importance of its employees, managers, and leaders, so the company has built one of the airline industry’s most advanced “skills-first” strategies. Built on its investment in SAP technology ( Talent Intelligence Hub ) and a focus from the top, the company fully embraces an agile cross-functional career model, all built around skills . In this episode Tim Gregory, Managing Director of HR Innovation and Technology at Delta, walks Kathi Enderes through the company’s strategy, describing how Delta uses skillstech and AI to help employees advance their careers across job families in the company (we call this The Dynamic Organization ). Delta is a pioneer in this effort: most airlines fall far behind in their talent and HR strategies. As Tim describes, this strategy not only helps employees grow and develop, it gives Delta a foundation of sustainability and customer service others only emulate. Delta is rated the #1 airline for passenger service in the US, and we believe this HR strategy is foundational to its market success. Join our course Career and Talent Mobility to learn more. Additional Information Delta Now Rated As Customers’ Favorite Airline SAP SuccessFactors Delivers on HXM and The Promise of AI Career and Talent Mobility: Certificate Program from The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 Forgiveness, Growth, And Reinvention In The Age Of AI E190 20:18
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedI just finished a long meeting with 15 senior HR leaders in Silicon Valley, so in the context of AI, I discuss the themes of forgiveness, growth, and leadership these organizations are facing. And these issues are acute right now. 2025 is shaping up to be a “Year of Redesign” throughout business, and as we do this we have to rethink about how we think about people. Are we ready to support, forgive, and help our people adapt? Leadership trust is at an all time low , so we definitely have some work to do. I also describe how Satya Nadella embraces this idea of continuous growth as a very senior leader. I also discuss the growing value of “Vertical AI” solutions and how they will complement and add value in a world of large AI providers, and give you a sense of where I believe the AI market is going. Takeaways: Forgiveness and growth are essential in personal and professional development. Leadership is a continuous journey that requires constant learning. AI will play a significant role in redesigning work processes. A growth mindset fosters a culture of improvement and accountability. Organizations should focus on problems rather than blaming individuals. Continuous learning is crucial for high-performing companies. Redesigning roles and processes is necessary in the age of AI. Forgiveness can lead to better employee engagement and retention. Leaders must adapt to changes and seek advice from others. Creating an environment for reinvention is key to organizational success. Additional Information Corporate Citizenship Redefined Leadership Trust Is Dropping (PwC) The Value of Values As Organizations Build on Trust Introducing Galileo Professional, Your Personal AI Assistant for HR…
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1 The Launch Of Galileo™ Professional and The Galileo Success Center E189 12:52
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week we are so excited to launch Galileo Professional , the personal AI platform designed for HR professionals, consultants, vendors, and investors in the global Human Resources industry. As you’ll hear in my introduction, Galileo Pro is Your Personal AI Assistant for everything HR. For $39 per month you now have access to the most trusted corpus of HR research in the world, including every research study, maturity model, case study, vendor profile, and benchmark we’ve done for 26+ years. This corpus is powered by the Sana advanced AI platform to give you personalized advice, education, and tools to help you in every area of HR. Our trusted content providers (Lightcast, Oyster, Visier, Heidrick & Struggles) add global data on regulatory practices, skills, salary and turnover benchmarks, and leadership models, and we are adding more trusted content every week. And best of all, Galileo Pro is an open Gen AI platform for you to add your company’s policies, procedures, hiring guides, and other internal tools so you have your own personal (or company) Gen AI system to help with every HR topic you face. Listen to the podcast, along with an AI-generated (thanks to Google Notebook LLM ) Q&A on Galileo Professional, including a discussion of the Galileo Success Center , your place to learn about AI and share world-class ideas, innovations, and solutions built on the Galileo Platform. You can purchase Galileo Professional today for yourself, your team, or your organization. Join us on this exciting journey of AI-powered HR, leadership, and management solutions in the decade ahead.…
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1 What's Coming In 2025, AI Updates, Jobs Number, And Our Big Announcement Next Week E188 19:26
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this week’s podcast I give you some insights on HR tech in 2025, perspectives on jobs, and what you’ll be dealing with in 2025. We just had two weeks of HR Tech announcements and next week you’ll see a big one from us! (The biggest product announcement in my career, to be a little hyberbolic!). Topics include: the verticalization of AI, whey OpenAI will compete with Microsoft, how agents will change our jobs, and the implications of the low unemployment rate on pay equity, DEI, talent density, recruiting, and organization design. For those of you who agree with me on Organization Design in 2025, here is the Org Design SuperClass , which is a “must consume” offering for the coming year. Watch this space for our Big Reveal next Tuesday! Additional Information Understanding The Job Market (video) The Org Design SuperClass How To Create Talent Density The Definitive Guide to Building a Dynamic Organization Galileo, the world’s AI-powered expert assistant for HR.…
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1 Flexible Shifts In Hospitality: Aimbridge Uses AI To Schedule Workers E187 21:18
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAimbridge manages 1100 hotels around the US and employs more than 45,000 employees. In this podcast, Conrad Riddle, VP of HR Shared Services at Aimbridge Hospitality, discusses how the company empowers employees (“Uberizing the Workforce”) and delivers a flexible, highly engaged workforce with dynamic workforce scheduling. The company leverages UKG Workforce Management to give employees a centralized app that lets an employee manage their schedule dynamically. As you’ll hear, Ambridge employees can now “bid and ask” for new shifts without going through management. Through schedule sharing across locations and bidding on shifts in an online platform, employees have more flexibility in their schedules and empowers them to manage their own shifts. It also enables managers to easily approve requests and effectively manage labor to avoid costly contractors. Additional Information Employee Experience: The Definitive Guide New Research: Cloud-Based HCM Can Redefine Employee Experience Join The Employee Experience Workshop: A Certificate Program In The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 Live from HR Technology 2024: A Detailed Look At The AI Trailblazers! E186 44:54
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this week’s podcast I go through the 30 HR Technology AI Trailblazers in some detail. You’ll hear about all the companies in the Trailblazer Report , as well as some of my personal thoughts on their leadership teams, centers of innovation, and differentiating capabilities. My keynote at HR Tech was 75 minutes long and you can hear it or get access to the materials if you join our corporate membership (or come back to HR Tech 2025 next March !). For those of you in Europe, I will be speaking at Unleash Paris on Thursday October 17 and I will also be discussing many of these topics at Workday Rising EMEA on Wednesday December 11 at the RAI Conference Center in Amsterdam. In the meantime, I hope you enjoy hearing about these 30 amazing companies, each of which is delivering on AI in high-value, high-ROI solutions. I also spent some time talking about the COST of AI and why and how you can work on a business case for these new AI capabilities and make sure you have a clear use-case and implementation plan for these new, exciting, high-value innovations. AI in HR has reached a tipping point: it’s here and it’s delivering real value. Now we all have to figure out what to buy, which major players to standardize on, and which use-cases to address first. Vendors Discussed ADP Lyric HCM, Arist Creator and Teammate, Cornerstone Galaxy, Disprz Learning System, Draup Talent Intelligence, Deel Employment of Record Platform, Docebo Creator, Eightfold Career Navigator and Talent Intelligence, Galileo: The Expert AI Assistant for HR, Gloat Workforce Agility, Growthspace Precision Skilling, Heidrick & Struggles Navigator, HiBob, Lattice, LinkedIn Learning, Lightcast Skills, Medallia, Oracle HCM, Oyster Global Employment Platform, Paradox, Rippling Talent Signal, Sana Labs, SAP SuccessFactors and Joule, SeekOut, ServiceNow, SHL Global Assessments, UKG Bryte, Visier Vee, Workday Illuminate AI Platform (and HiredScore), Workera Skills System. Additional Information The Trailblazer and HR Tech 2025 Report Josh Bersin Company Announces 30 AI HR Tech Trailblazer Vendors the CHRO Really Needs to Know About…
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1 Workday Illuminate, Salesforce slams Microsoft, Even More Agents, and Why Boeing Teaches Us A Lesson 24:10
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis podcast details what Workday’s new AI platform, Workday Illuminate , and also describes Workday’s momentum coming out of Rising. I also discuss why Salesforce slams Microsoft, the new tsunami of Agents, including Microsoft, Salesforce (who is charging $2 per conversation), SAP, Workday, UKG, ServiceNow, and others. I also discuss the near-term job disruption we’re seeing from Agents and what you should do to prepare. Then I discuss the strikes at Boeing and why “growth at any cost” is such a dangerous business strategy, and how we may avoid this problem in our companies. Read Irresistible to learn more. Additional Information What Is Workday Illuminate? Galileo Selected As Workday Innovation Partner Benioff Slams Microsoft as he Promotes Salesforce Agents Irresistible: The Seven Secrets of the World’s Most Enduring, Employee-Focused Organizations…
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1 What Works: How to Build a Fantastic Employee Experience in Industrial Distribution 21:29
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn our latest WhatWorks podcast, Samantha Garvie , HR Safety and Compliance Director at Rowley’s Wholesale, speaks with Kathi Enderes from The Josh Bersin Company. Rowley’s Wholesale , a Michigan-based distributor of automotive and industrial products, has been in business for over 100 years and is currently in its third generation of ownership. With 125+ employees across three locations, the company utilizes UKG-Ready for its HRIS system, covering benefits, timekeeping, payroll, succession planning, and learning management. The mobile app has been widely adopted by employees, enabling them to access important information and complete tasks remotely. Samantha shares insights on how technology is transforming the employee experience and discusses her plans to explore AI to enhance fatigue management, stress management, retention, and succession planning. This episode offers valuable lessons on leveraging HR technology to support a distributed workforce and drive organizational success. Interviewee: Samantha Garvie, HR Safety and Compliance Director, Rowley’s Wholesale Company: Rowley’s Wholesale, a US-based distributor of automotive and industrial products with 125 employees…
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1 Klarna Claims AI Will Replace Workday. Unlikely Scenario But Points To A New Future. E183 18:57
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week Klarna, a buy-now pay-later company in Sweden, announced plans to terminate its Workday and Salesforce relationships and build it themselves. A bunch of tech pundits are big fans, but I have my doubts. As you’ll hear in the podcast, many big companies (much bigger than Klarna) have tried this, only to retreat to vendor solutions. And I do question the business strategy of putting high-powered engineering talent on mature, enterprise products like HCM and CRM. Obviously AI is getting smarter and more capable by the minute. As I explain in the podcast, there are better ways to think about this problem, and this conversation opens up the door to a big discussion about the future of enterprise apps, agentic AI, and the role of large-scale incumbent vendors in our corporate IT stacks. Additional Information Klarna Cuts 50% of Workforce, Ends Partnerships with Salesforce and Workday Amid Generative AI Overhaul Klarna Plans to ‘Shut Down SaaS Providers’ and Replace Them With Internally Built AI. The Tech World Is Pretty Skeptical AI Agents, The New Workforce We’re Not Quite Ready For (Agentic AI)…
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1 Agentic AI: The AI Agents That Will Change Our Companies E182 19:43
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAgentic AI is the next big wave in AI, where AI systems and chatbots can take actions on our behalf. These agents can perform tasks such as composing emails, creating documents, building courses, and even recruiting. They can be seen as virtual employees or teammates that can be trained and managed. These agents will change the technology landscape and the stack of tools in our organizations. They will require onboarding, training, and governance to ensure they are effective and secure. And Agentic AI has the potential to improve productivity and provide measurable ROI. Keywords agentic AI, AI systems, chatbots, virtual employees, virtual teammates, training manager, recruiting agent, technology landscape, productivity improvement, measurable ROI Takeaways Agentic AI allows AI systems and chatbots to take actions on our behalf, performing tasks such as composing emails, creating documents, building courses, and recruiting. These agents can be seen as virtual employees or teammates that can be trained and managed. Agentic AI will change the technology landscape and the stack of tools in organizations, requiring onboarding, training, and governance. These agents have the potential to improve productivity and provide measurable ROI. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Agentic AI 01:11 Agentic AI in Training Management 05:56 Agentic AI in Recruiting 09:03 Onboarding and Training Agentic AI 12:08 Changing the Technology Landscape with Agentic AI 16:31 Measuring the ROI of Agentic AI Additional Information AI Agents, The New Workforce We’re Not Quite Ready For Artificial Intelligence in HR: Certificate Course From The Josh Bersin Academy Introducing Galileo, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR Autonomous Corporate Learning Platforms: Arriving Now, Powered by AI…
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1 Celebrating Labor Day! Lots To Be Happy About, Lots To Consider. E181 19:43
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss the ever-changing role of Labor in our economy, our companies, and our own personal lives. The word “labor” is really an old-fashioned idea, but we still have the US holiday, so I wanted to unpack what it now means. As you’ll learn Labor Day is a time to think about hiring, pay, development, and diversity as well as productivity, labor unions, the impact of tips and income inequality, and the enormous role of HR as an ombudsman between “labor” and “management.” And yes, AI is going to force us to think deeper about what “people” do in our companies. Remember that we’re all “labor” and every employee is a human being. So while US Labor Day was originally a way to celebrate unions and organized labor, let’s also think broader about all the value-based investments we make in every person in our companies. Keywords: Labor Day, labor movement, workers, economy, automation, technology, labor shortage, skills shortage, investment in employees, unions, fair pay, benefits, working conditions, income inequality, HR professionals, Boeing, Starbucks, employee activation Chapters: 00:00 The Importance of Workers in the Economy 02:11 Automation and the Changing Labor Force 04:07 Investing in Employees to Attract and Retain Talent 14:37 The Role of Unions in Advocating for Fairness 17:48 Addressing Income Inequality 20:08 The Role of HR in Supporting Employees Additional Information When Will The Trillions Invested In AI Pay Off? Sooner Than You Think. With Thoughtful Design And Culture, Dropbox Proves Remote Work Is A Winner AI in HR Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy Learn about Galileo: The World’s AI Assistant for HR…
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1 The Role Of Assessments In A World Of AI: Learning From SHL - E180 22:32
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this WhatWorks podcast I interview Andy Bradshaw, the CEO of SHL . SHL is one of the world’s largest psychometric assessment vendors, bringing together psychology, skills assessment, and other forms of measurement to identify the capabilities, and potential of an individual at work. These highly scientific assessments are widely used for pre-hire screening, job-fit analysis, development planning, leadership development, and succession planning. But in a world of AI, where large HR platforms are “inferring” skills and capabilities, where do they fit? Andy, who has led SHL for many years, explains how psychometric assessment fits into the new world of AI and Talent Intelligence. He also shares how SHL itself has amassed a large data set on skills and roles that makes SHL a big data vendor as well. Keywords SHL, talent intelligence, assessments, AI, talent acquisition, talent management, leadership assessment, benchmarking, data-driven decisions Episode Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:57 SHL: A Talent Intelligence Business 02:21 Psychometric Assessments and Tailored Solutions 03:47 Customization and Defensibility of Assessments 06:37 Consolidation in the Assessment Market 07:07 The Complementary Role of AI and Assessments 08:56 Assessments vs. AI: The Value of Insights 12:49 Assessing Leaders: Experience, Ability, and Potential 16:09 Benchmarking and Data-driven Decisions 19:03 Talent Intelligence: Aggregating Data for Better Decisions 21:17 Conclusion Additional Information Introducing the HR Career Navigator The Talent Intelligence Primer When Will The Trillions Invested In AI Pay Off? Sooner Than You Think.…
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1 The HR Career Navigator & How To Evaluate HR Tech Vendors E179 15:31
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this week’s podcast I describe the HR Career Navigator and the role of HR skills and capabilities in HR and business transformation. Then, as we approach HR Tech season, I give you my three steps to evaluating HR Tech vendors. Additional Information Introducing The HR Career Navigator Why Is It So Hard To Be A Chief HR Officer (CHRO)? Research Shows That High Growth Large Companies Have Distinct HR Skills…
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1 A Tumultuous End To 2024, What Has Changed As We Look To 2025? 27:55
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this discussion I reflect on the significant events and trends of 2024, highlighting the impact of global conflicts, economic change, labor market dynamics, and the transformative role of AI in organizations. What has changed? I discuss the evolving nature of DEI, the new model of leadership which emerged, and the transformation of HR into a more integrated and essential function within businesses. I also describe the two-edged labor market, with severe labor shortages in hourly and blue collar work yet a lack of opportunities in white collar jobs. In fact I argue that our employment situation is not as happy as one may believe: the hyper low unemployment at the low end is masking unemployment fears among white collar workers. And as I discuss, 77% of employees are now fearful that AI could negatively impact their jobs and careers. I also point out the enormous opportunity for AI-driven change in 2025, which will not be easy or simple for companies to adopt. And I celebrate the central role of HR, moving to the Systemic HR © model ahead. To all our listeners: stay tuned for our major report on “ The Rise of the Superworker ” coming in January, an in-depth discussion about the 15 imperatives for change and AI transformation in 2025. This groundbreaking report and related tools will be available to Galileo users and our corporate members. Sign up for Galileo today. Key Points 2024 was marked by global conflicts affecting employees around the world Economic growth has been uneven, despite inflation’s impact Labor shortages continue, particularly in hourly jobs, while white-collar jobs are hard to find The low unemployment rate is misleading: many workers cannot find jobs AI is barely beginning to revolutionize work processes and organizational structures. DEI initiatives are being reframed as business priorities rather than social agendas. Leadership has become a responsibility for every employee, not just management. HR is evolving from a support function to a strategic partner in business. Organizations must focus on data management and governance as AI grows. Well-being in the workplace has plummeted, yet it remains essential for business success. HR is now taking on a very different role in our companies. Chapters 00:00 Reflections on 2024: A Year of Conflict and Change 03:32 Economic Landscape: Growth Amidst Challenges 07:32 Labor Market Dynamics: Shortages and Opportunities 12:05 AI Revolution: Transforming Work and Organizations 16:14 DEI and HR Tech: Evolving Strategies for Inclusion 20:35 Well-being and Leadership: Cultivating Healthy Organizations 24:52 The Future of HR: Strategic Integration and Transformation Additional Resources 100 Amazing Use-Cases for Galileo, The AI-Powered Assistant For Everything HR AI in HR: Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy The Road to AI-Powered Productivity: Four Stages of Transformation Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere Adecco: Adapting to an AI-Driven World of Work Note: Systemic HR © is now a registered trademark of The Josh Bersin Company.…
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1 Deel's Hyper-Scale, Game-Changing Approach to Globalization 19:39
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow has Deel grown from zero to 4,500 employees in 100 countries in less than five years? It’s an amazing story of hyperscale growth and passionate customer focus. In today’s podcast Alex Bouaziz , CEO of Deel, talks with Kathi Enderes about his own journey from environmental engineer to founder of an HR tech company. Alex explains how he started Deel as an EOR (Employer of Record) company, and how the company has expanded into HCM and payroll around the world. He explains the EOR market and what global employment providers do, and also discusses their AI assistant, Deel AI, which can help answer any question by pulling from Deel’s knowledge base. Additional Information EOR Provider Deel Expands into HCM HR Tech Workshop Certificate Program | Josh Bersin Academy AI HR Tech Trailblazers, 2025 HR Tech Outlook…
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1 Workday Rising, Precision Talent Acquisition, The Future Role of the CHRO 23:32
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this conversation I share insights from my recent trip to Europe, focusing on the Workday Rising event, the current state of talent acquisition, and the evolving role of CHROs in strategic workforce planning. I discuss the importance of systemic talent acquisition, the emergence of “Precision Talent Acquisition” and the entire redefinition of this function. And I also explain why the term “Hiring Manager” is such a terrible concept. Finally I share my amazing conversation with one of the most high-powered, inspiring CHROs I’ve ever met. Takeaways Workday is integrating its products into a cohesive solution. The hiring cycle is slowing down due to economic factors. AI is increasing the value of existing workers, creating ‘super workers’ Talent acquisition should be viewed as a growth function. Precision in hiring is essential in a tight labor market. Cultural fit is as important as technical skills in hiring. Strategic workforce planning should align with business goals. The role of CHRO is evolving to include strategic planning, not “workforce planning” alone. Additional Information Klarna CEO Explains How AI-Driven Headcount Reduction Fuels Superworkers and Growth How To Make Productivity Soar: Four Stages of AI Transformation How AI Will Revolutionize The HR Department, In Detail. Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR AI in HR Certificate Program: The Josh Bersin Academy Irresistible 2025: Sign Up Early…
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1 How AI Will Revolutionize The HR Department, In Detail. E205 15:16
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedI know most of you have used ChatGPT, Galileo , or other AI tools in your job, but you haven’t seen anything yet. In this podcast I walk through a complete end-to-end scenario to show you precisely how AI agents will automate, scale, integrate, and vastly improve the process of hiring, onboarding, performance management, internal mobility, and more. As you’ll hear in this scenario, AI agents are going to revolutionize the talent process. Recruiters, HR Business Partners, and CHROs watch out. And this is just the beginning. Our upcoming “100 Use-Cases for Galileo in HR” will explain this in greater detail (Galileo is designed for all these use-cases and more.) Every HR professional should listen to this podcast to see the future of HR. Join our certificate program to learn more! Additional Information Become an AI Expert: AI in HR Certificate in The Josh Bersin Academy How To Make Productivity Soar: Four Stages of AI Transformation Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere Introducing The AI Trailblazers! HR Technology Outlook 2025. Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 The End Of The American Dream? How Automation Works To Your Advantage (or Not). E204 15:55
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat do we do about the American Dream? This week I discuss the explosion of employee and citizen activation (NYC UHG CEO, for example) and how the US economy has not been delivering for 2/3 of the workforce. And in that discussion I challenge HR and business leaders to re-engineer jobs and work around what we call Superworkers, all with a goal of using AI to increase customer service, scale, quality, and value. I try to warn and give examples of what happens when companies use technologies like AI to eliminate jobs and simply reduce labor costs. Employees will give you feedback, they can “rage quit.” Automation to reduce labor can backfire. Our job as leaders is to help build a company of Superworkers . Additional Research and Reading Donald Trump Will Do Nothing to Bring Back Our Dying American Dream (NYT research column) What Gives Poor Kids a Shot at Better Lives? Economists Find an Unexpected Answer (Raj Chetty’s research on lack of upward mobility in the US) How To Make Productivity Soar: Four Stages of AI Transformation Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere Galileo Professional, The Essential AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 WhatWorks: Sanford Health Develops Mission-Driven Leaders at All Levels 20:51
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedLinda Kirchhevel , Director, Talent & Leadership Development at Sanford Health talks with Kathi Enderes about their leadership development program. Linda discusses how the organization’s frequent mergers caused them to prioritize creating a unique leadership framework centered around the mission of the organization. (Sanford Health is the largest rural healthcare provider in the United States.) The Sanford Leader Framework (“The Sanford Leader”) is applicable to anybody in the organization, focused on developing behaviors and capabilities at scale for all 45,000 employees. Built in collaboration with FranklinCovey, the leadership development model, assessment, orientation, and development plan delivers a customized leadership program at all levels. (Leading self, leading others, leading mission.) As Linda explains, this program has driven a 13 point increase in employee engagement measured through NetPromoter. And the program continues to drive high levels of employee engagement, retention, and alignment during a series of acquisitions. It exemplifies the “Irresistible Leadership” model we highlight in our research . Additional Information Human-Centered Leadership , Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy (Join today!) Why Are Some Companies More Dynamic Than Others? The Surprising Facts About Leadership Development (podcast)…
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1 How To Accelerate The Productivity Benefits of AI? Four Stages of AI Adoption. 19:00
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAI tools are rapidly sweeping across our companies in every job function, and most of us see them as “productivity tools.” Well, that’s a very limited view of the future. While AI may make you 15-20% more productive, the big payoff comes when we rethink work entirely and let AI systems take over as “autonomous agents,” albeit with our support. In this podcast I discuss the four levels of AI adoption , and help you think about the important job-redesign work we’ll do in 2025. And I would argue that “doing existing work faster” is going to become a commodity quickly. And at levels 3 and 4 we will be re-engineering jobs and work, developing new skills, improving pay, and empowering people to do more! You can read more about this in our upcoming 2025 Predictions report, but the best next step is get your hands on Galileo, the AI Expert Assistant for Everything HR . (And Join the Josh Bersin Academy !)…
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1 People Analytics: The Next Big Step Has Arrived. Get Ready. E201 21:08
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedCompanies have been investing in People Analytics and Industrial Psychology since the late 1800s, going back to Fredrick Taylor (time and motion studies) and Carl Jung (psychological types). The original idea was to scientifically manage work, using data to measure labor, strength, motion, and later engagement, skills, and leadership. All this effort resulted in thousands of books and tools to measure employee engagement, employee experience, productivity, and organization design. Ultimately where we landed was a new domain we call People Analytics: using people-related data to monitor, improve, and optimize business outcomes. And this journey, which I’ve been a part of for 30 years, resulted in a massive investment in HR technology platforms, engagement surveys, sentiment analysis tools, and more and more models for trust, leadership, management, wellbeing, and employee growth. All that energy, deep thinking, and investment now lands in a new world, one we call “Systemic Business Analytics.” We use this name because it’s time to stop isolating people data from business data and running this domain as “projects,” rather think about it as an integrated analytics system. In other words, as I explain in the podcast, let’s move forward and take all the people data we capture and embed it right into our existing business measurement systems. Instead of creating a “people data warehouse” to run reports and analysis on HR information, we can use that valuable information and put it right in the hands of business leaders and managers. Our new research, “ The Journey to Systemic Business Analytic s,” details this journey and shows you our four level maturity model. (You can view the maturity model here .) Today fewer than 10% of companies are doing this well, but that’s still a large number. And as I describe in the podcast, AI is going to light a bonfire under this space and rapidly accelerate this direction. Additional Information People Analytics, A Complex Domain, Is About To Be Transformed by AI. People Analytics Certificate Course in The Josh Bersin Academy Systemic Analytics: A New Approach Galileo, The AI Assistant for Everything HR…
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1 Can One AI Agent Do Everything? How To Redesign Jobs for AI? HR Expertise And A Big Future for L&D. E200 18:56
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I summarize my meetings and discussions with clients in NYC and you can see we covered many topics. Here’s the AI summary, which is pretty good. In this conversation, Josh Bersin discusses the evolving landscape of AI platforms, particularly focusing on Microsoft’s positioning and the challenges of creating a universal AI agent. He delves into the complexities of government efficiency, emphasizing the institutional challenges faced in re-engineering government operations. The conversation also highlights the automation of work tasks and the need for businesses to decompose job functions for better efficiency. Bersin stresses the importance of expertise in HR, advocating for a shift towards full stack professionals who possess a broad understanding of various HR functions. Finally, he addresses the impending disruption in Learning and Development (L&D) due to AI advancements, predicting a significant transformation in how L&D professionals will manage knowledge and skills. Additional Information Inside Microsoft’s struggles with Copilot (Business Insider Exclusive) Hyper-Growth Through Efficiency: Theme For The New Era Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere Chatbot Architecture: MS Copilot, Joule, Galileo, and The Future of L&D…
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1 How AI Changes Organizations, Institutions, and Society. E199 28:14
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn today’s podcast I discuss the organizational, institutional, and societal impacts of AI. And I’m not predicting what “could happen” but rather sharing “what is happening now.” As you’ll hear, AI plays a role in our political issues but an even greater role in our careers, pay, rewards, organization structure, and culture. A recent AI adoption study by McKinsey found that 74% of companies have at least one AI application in place, and 20% have 3 or more. So we’re already seeing the impact. As you’ll hear, this is a technology that people are worried about at the moment, so we need to consider many levels of change management throughout our organizations. Chapters 00:00 The Rapid Rise of AI and Automation 05:13 Job Transformation and AI Impact 08:56 Privacy Concerns in the Age of AI 12:47 Organizational Design and Talent Density 20:48 Leadership in the AI Era 29:54 Embracing AI: The Path Forward Additional Information Hyper-Growth Through Efficiency: Theme For The New Era How To Create Talent Density Were These Layoffs Inevitable? Perhaps, But Here’s How It Happened. People as Competitive Advantage: Certificate Course In The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 What's Holding Back People Analytics? Discussion with Paul Rubenstein from Visier. E198 27:34
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAfter decades of effort and growth, only around 10% of People Analytics teams deliver strategic business value. Many are still focused on traditional analysis of engagement, retention, leadership pipelines, and other HR measures. In this WhatWorks podcast I talk openly with Paul Rubenstein, the Chief Customer Officer at Visier, about how this market has evolved. And in the conversation you can learn about Visier and the role of integrated, AI-platforms for the important topic of managing corporate HR and work data. Our newest research on People Analytics is coming out this month, stay tuned for much more detail on this topic. Additional Information People Analytics, Evolved: A Systemic Approach Certificate Course in People Analytics from The Josh Bersin Company…
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1 Diversity, Inclusion, DEI, and Wellbeing In The Trump Era E197 18:36
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I discuss the issue of DEI (must it DIE?), inclusion, and corporate culture in the Trump Era. We just completed a 1.5 hour discussion with 30+ companies on the impact of the 2024 election and regardless of your political position, some people are worried. It’s clear to me that DEI (or whatever you call it) is not going away, but in this podcast I reframe the topic and give you perspectives from some of the largest companies in the world. Additional Information Are Diversity And Inclusion Programs Going Away? Elevating Equity: A Certificate Program From The Josh Bersin Academy Chief Diversity Officer: The Toughest Job in Business…
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1 The History of Franklin Covey And The Enduring Model Of Leadership E196 21:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode of the WhatWorks podcast, Paul Walker, CEO of FranklinCovey , talks with Kathi Enderes about FranklinCovey’s history, his own journey of 25 years with the company from frontline employee to CEO, and how the company now helps large organizations like Marriott enable transformational change through individual behavior change, execution excellence, creating a culture of trust and performance, and developing new leadership capabilities. FranklinCovey (FC) is one of the only publicly traded learning and leadership companies in the world. Learn about how FC helps Marriott deliver one of the most highly esteemed customer experiences in the hospitality market. Interviewee: Paul Walker, CEO FranklinCovey Additional Information The Surprising Facts About Leadership Development , Human-Centered Leadership , Why Are Some Companies More Dynamic Than Others?…
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1 AI Can Do Even More Than You Thought. Why Every Employee Will Have A Digital Assistant. E195 22:00
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I discuss how major new AI use-cases have emerged. Imagine if every employee had a personal AI assistant? It’s going to happen. I also discuss LinkedIn Hiring Assistan t, Galileo , SuccessFactors Joule, AI for performance management, and a big question: what are you going to do with the 35% productivity you gain? Coming back from multiple weeks on the road with clients and vendors, this podcast will expand your thinking and help you build your own business case for AI tools and agents in your own HR organization. While many of us believe AI is a productivity tool, I explain how AI use-cases in HR are for expansive than you realized. Watch this YouTube to learn about the two ways to think about AI applications. Keywords: AI in HR, recruitment, productivity, coaching, job descriptions, LinkedIn, generative AI, HR technology, innovation, use cases Additional Information LinkedIn Enters AI Agent Race With LinkedIn Hiring Assistant Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere SuccessFactors Leapfrogs HCM Capabilities: AI, Skills, Talent Intelligence, And More Introducing Galileo Pro, Your Personal AI Assistant for HR a9W3O0GjMWKbGryeXy5J…
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1 Job Task Re-Engineering With AI: A Massive Opportunity Ahead - E194 14:04
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this week’s podcast I discuss the trend (and need) for job task re-engineering: breaking down our jobs into tasks, so we can effectively use AI and Agents to speed things up. As more and more vendors announce AI Agents to assist with work, our best opportunity for massive improvement is to “re-engineer” how we do things, not just “add agents” to our current jobs. As I describe, most companies build job titles in a “mashed potato” approach where we squash a bunch of things into one job description. Thanks to AI we can now think about work differently, and this will impact sales, marketing, HR, engineering, and just about every other function in our companies. In some ways this is a return to the old ERP model of “designing work around the software” but this time the Agents are smart, programmable, and learning! So if we do this well we’re going to see massive improvements in productivity. I talk about Rolls Royce, EPAM, and the PR battle between Salesforce and Microsoft for “Agent-Tech.” Plus I talk about why Chief Learning Officers have a new role in 2025! Lots of new ideas to think about here. Please watch this video for more on this topic. Additional Information Get your hands on Galileo Professional: your personal AI assistant for HR Digital Twins, Digital Employees, And Agents Everywhere Redesigning Work with AI Vendors Mentioned Agentforce by Salesforce Copilot Agents by Microsoft Sana Labs (the platform under Galileo)…
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1 Irresistible 2024 Recap, Cornerstone Acquires Skyhive, The Emergence of Talking AI Assistants 26:39
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week, coming off our amazing Irresistible 2024 conference, I recap what we learned and discuss the evolution of enterprise talent intelligence. I explain the Skyhive-Cornerstone deal, update you on SAP and Workday’s AI efforts, and give you a preview of what’s going to happen as we get our hands on OpenAI GPT4o (Omni). Next year’s Irresistible will be May 19-22, 2025 so put it on your calendar. And if you’re ready to revolutionize your HR team and entire HR function, Galileo is now fully available – you can learn more here . Additional Information Galileo Goes Live, Expands Its Power With New Trusted Content YouTube video of Galileo Launch…
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1 Inside Microsoft HR's Skills Strategy: A Lesson In Innovation & Investment 20:30
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss Microsoft’s exciting new internal skills strategy, with a focus on Viva Skills, the role of the Microsoft Copilot, and how Microsoft is “inventing new products for HR” as Customer Zero. Customer Zero is Microsoft’s way of “eating their own dogfood” and making sure their new products are well designed before the hit the streets. Video version of podcast: https://youtu.be/6VuOYUBT2KA Takeaways Microsoft is a role model for HR, with an innovative and experimental approach. They are leveraging the Microsoft Graph to gather skills and HR data for better decision-making. Viva Skills and Eightfold are being used to build a skills infrastructure and provide personalized recommendations. Microsoft is integrating AI agents like Galileo into the Microsoft Copilot, showcasing the importance of AI in HR. Companies need to develop their own AI strategies to stay competitive in the evolving HR technology landscape. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Microsoft and their HR Function 02:06 Building a Skills-Based Employee Experience 05:34 Challenges of Skills Platforms in HR Technology 10:38 Integrating AI Agents into Tools and Systems 15:36 The Significance of AI Technologies in HR Redesign Additional Information: Building A Skills-Based Organization: The Exciting But Sober Reality Enterprise Talent Intelligence Arrives, Disrupting The HR Tech Market Here Come The Copilots!…
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1 ServiceNow Goes Crazy For AI, Talent Intelligence Goes Enterprise, And Workday Gets Beat Up In The Press 25:51
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday’s podcast, recorded in Vegas after a series of conferences (ServiceNow Knowledge and Unleash), talks all about how ServiceNow is making a major play to dominate the space and how Enterprise Talent Intelligence is going mainstream. I also discuss what we covered in our AI in HR workshop and how to evaluate the massive number of tools are coming (including Galileo® from us). I also give you my thoughts about why Business Insider was a bit unfair to Workday and how the HCM market will soon change existentially. Additional Information Enterprise Talent Intelligence Has Arrived: Disrupting The HR Tech Market ServiceNow Boldly Introduces AI Solution For Skills, Learning, And Growth Why I’m Still Bullish On Workday Here Come The Copilots: Microsoft’s GenAI Strategy For The Enterprise AI in HR: Certificate Course in The Josh Bersin Academy (join the more than 30,000 people who love it!)…
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1 Rethinking Employee Experience: Lessons from The BBC and Schiphol Airport 27:11
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis conversation explores the concept of employee experience and its evolution from employee engagement. The case studies of the BBC and Schiphol Airport demonstrate innovative approaches to creating inspiring employee experiences. The discussion emphasizes the operational aspects of employee experience, including training, inclusion, belonging, pay, and benefits. It also introduces the concept of employee activation, where employees are empowered to make local changes to improve their work experience directly. Keywords employee experience, employee engagement, case studies, operational aspects, training, inclusion, belonging, pay, benefits, employee activation, BBC, Schiphol, T-Mobile, AirBNB, Kaiser Permanente Takeaways Employee experience is a more expansive and refreshed approach compared to traditional employee engagement. Understanding the specific needs and experiences of different employee groups is crucial for creating inspiring employee experiences. Operational aspects such as training, inclusion, belonging, pay, and benefits play a significant role in employee experience. Employee activation empowers employees to make local changes to improve their work experience. Sound Bites “Employee experience is the core mission of HR” “Self-directed and coach-oriented career development is a massive driver of organizational performance” “Be careful not to threaten employees inadvertently with AI” Additional Resources Employee Activation: An Essential Big Idea For 2024 Why The 4-Day Week? Because 33 Year-Olds Now Run The World. Surprising Results From The World Happiness Report: What It Means To You…
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1 Here Come The CoPilots! Microsoft Earnings, and Enterprise AI Is Next. 27:01
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedMicrosoft’s Co-Pilot, powered by AI, is being widely used by Fortune 500 companies and has become the largest and most prevalent corporate AI tool in the world. A research report by CompTIA shows that 94% of professional users have used some form of AI, including Microsoft’s Co-Pilot. The company is deploying AI at a massive scale, which is improving productivity and saving users hours per day. And there’s more. The integration of AI into enterprise applications, such as Workday and SAP, is transforming the way users interact with these systems. Talent intelligence, powered by AI, is becoming an enterprise-class system that goes beyond sourcing and selecting candidates to include internal mobility, pay equity, and performance management. The learning and development space is also experiencing a significant transformation with the use of AI to generate and personalize content. The implementation of AI in the HR tech market is expected to disrupt the industry and companies that adapt quickly will thrive. Keywords Microsoft, Co-Pilot, AI, Fortune 500, CompTIA, productivity, enterprise applications, Workday, SAP, talent intelligence, learning and development, HR tech market Takeaways Microsoft’s Co-Pilot, powered by AI, is the largest and most prevalent AI tool in the world, used by Fortune 500 companies. AI is being integrated into various applications, improving productivity and saving users hours per day. Enterprise applications, such as Workday and SAP, are incorporating AI to transform user interactions. Talent intelligence, powered by AI, is expanding beyond sourcing and selecting candidates to include internal mobility, pay equity, and performance management. The learning and development space is undergoing a significant transformation with the use of AI to generate and personalize content. The implementation of AI in the HR tech market is expected to disrupt the industry, and companies that adapt quickly will thrive. Sound Bites “Microsoft’s Co-Pilot is now in use by 60% of the Fortune 500.” “61% of companies are already using AI in their corporate infrastructure.” “Microsoft is deploying AI at a scale that’s just spectacular.” Additional Information Why I’m Bullish On Workday: News From The Innovation Summit Enterprise AI At Work: The Talent Intelligence Primer Will Chatbots Take Over HR Tech? Paradox Sets The Pace. A Peek Under The Covers Of SAP SuccessFactors’ AI Strategy…
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1 Why I’m Bullish On Workday: News From The Innovation Summit 24:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I attended the Workday Innovation Summit and there’s a lot to discuss. Having just celebrated its 19th birthday, the company is embarking on a major transformation. And it’s not just product innovation that’s happening, the company is greatly expanding its business model. Additional Information Workday Innovation Summit: What’s New and Workday’s AI Architecture Enterprise AI At Work: The Talent Intelligence Primer Will Chatbots Take Over HR Tech? Paradox Sets The Pace. The Labor Market Has Totally Changed: Are You Really Ready?…
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1 The Dawn Of A New Era In Learning & Development. Where Is This Going? 22:45
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss the rapid, unprecedented changes taking place in corporate L&D, and how we have to rethink our entire training strategies. Not only is AI radically changing the landscape, we also have to rethink how we blend training solutions with knowledge management and legacy content too. In many ways this is the dawn of a new era in L&D! Additional Information The $340 Billion Corporate Learning Industry Is Poised For Disruption How To Take A Pragmatic (and winning) Approach To Skills BetterUp Manage: Pioneering AI-Powered Platform For Leaders…
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1 Yes, AI Is Even Smarter And More Disruptive Than We Thought 11:12
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIs Google’s search monopoly over? In this podcast I give you some striking insights we’ve learned from our Galileo rollout, and explain how AI is about to radically change the HR Tech and consumer landscape. It’s not as scary as it seems, but it’s clear to me that HR Tech vendors, analytics experts, and all information companies are going to have a lot of disruption ahead. And for HR and leadership teams, the opportunities are even bigger than we realized. And I explain why deep vertical AI systems, not broad “expansive” ones, are the future. And “ Mixture of Experts ” is where we’re going. *This podcast was recorded outside so I apologize for some wind noise* Additional Information Introducing Galileo, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR AI in HR Certificate Course – The Josh Bersin Academy HR Technology Traiblazers: Vendors Who Are Reinventing HR Through AI…
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1 Hot Jobs Report Shows A New Economy And Why CHROs Are Key To Growth 16:53
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss the Q1 2024 jobs report and what it tells us about the post-industrial economy. I also not that CHRO pay is rising, talent intelligence is taking over core HR technology, and AI is not, despite John Stewart’s monologue, taking all our jobs away. Lots to think about here, some important resources below. Additional Information The Post-Industrial Age research Nick Bloom Research on CHRO Pay Talent Intelligence Primer Join The Research Study on people analytics and talent intelligence (you’ll get the results) Our Newest Academy Course: AI in HR – join us .…
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1 Conversational AI Disrupts HR Tech. Adam Godson, CEO of Paradox. 34:09
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedBelieve it or not, chatbots are taking over the world. And they’re much more powerful, integrated, and intelligent than ever. In this podcast I talk with Adam Godson , CEO of Paradox . Through its pioneering focus, Paradox has radically changed the way we think about recruiting technology, making the complex process orders of magnitude easier for job seekers, recruiters, and hiring managers. As you’ll learn about in this podcast, these “narrow but deep” Conversational AI systems are extremely powerful, but they’re not as simple as you think. Use this podcast to learn about Paradox and also as a guide to help you think about Conversational AI in many of your HR strategies. Additional Information Understanding AI in HR Our New AI in HR Certificate Course – #1 In The Josh Bersin Academy The Role Of Generative AI In HR Is Now Becoming Clear…
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1 Lynda Gratton, Professor at London Business School, And I Discuss How Life and Work Have Changed 35:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis was such a fun discussion: Lynda Gratton, who wrote The Hundred Year Life , and I discuss the new world of work, careers, and policy issues we face. As I discuss in the beginning, the changing demographics and demands workers are essentially forcing companies to become what we call “Dynamic Organizations.” Note that this week Bayer jumped into this new world , following companies like Telstra, Unilever. Schneider Electric, HSBC, and many others. Additional Information About Lynda Gratton Bayer adopts the Dynamic Organization model – cutting bosses The Dynamic Organization Research Understanding the Pixelated Workforce The New Deal of Work (Diane Gherson)…
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1 The Pragmatic Approach To Skills - Bonus Episode 22:26
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis podcast was just published on YouTube , so you can watch the video. Companies all over the world are buying and implementing skills technology throughout HR. But how do we know what to buy and make sure it’s all going to add value? In this video I unpack a different approach: the pragmatic approach to skills, and how this approach will unlock you from vendor paralysis and make sure your investments really drive tremendous value. Much more to come on this topic, stay tuned for our upcoming research study on Enterprise Talent Intelligence. (Bonus episode authored between my normal Friday afternoon publishing.)…
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1 Surprising Results From The World Happiness Report: What It Means To You 25:34
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week the World Happiness Report was published, an encyclopedic look at happiness for the year. The results are surprising, disappointing, and very important. In this podcast I unpack the findings and show you the six factors that correlate to global happiness and what they mean for you as a leader, employer, or HR professional. Once again there are lots of important lessons here for corporate culture, remote work, pay, and management. Additional Information What The World Happiness Report Teaches Us About Work (article) Irresistible: The Seven Secrets of the World’s Most Enduring, Employee-Focused Organizations Employee Activation: An Essential Big Idea For 2024 Citizenship On The Rise: What This Means To Business and HR…
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1 Why The 4-Day Week? Because 33 Year-Olds Now Run The World. 24:01
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhy are we having a national discussion about the 4-day week? Because the workforce has radically changed, and 33 Year-olds now run the world. In this podcast I talk about how and why the workforce has radically changed and what this means to managers, leaders, and HR. I also discuss why talent density, talent activation, and empowered leadership are the management secrets for the future. I also describe my discussion with the head of HR at OpenAI, the 4-day week legislation in Washington (Bernie Sanders), and The Infinite Game in business. Lots of food for thought. Additional Resources It’s Me, Hi, I’m the Problem. I’m 33 The Four-Day Work Week: An Idea Whose Time Has Come 32-Hour Week Discussion In US Senate How To Create Talent Density Finite and Infinite Games…
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1 Why "Talent Density" Is So Critical In Business Today 21:38
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss our meetings in NYC with senior HR leaders about our Dynamic Organization research, and how “Talent Density” is becoming one of the key strategies for growth. I also discuss how “change has changed” and why we have to take advantage of front-line employees and managers in our organizational development and growth strategies. I also discuss what change leaders do and why a new model of leadership is emerging, as well as why financial systems and DEI programs have to adapt to these new models. Examples include Netflix, Boeing, ServiceNow, US military, and others. Additional Information How To Build A Dynamic Organization (new research) Introducing The Organization Design SuperClass Irresistible 2024: Join Us This May…
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1 Revisit Your Learning Architecture In The Age of AI E178 35:27
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I recap the idea of a “Corporate Learning Architecture” and give you some of my historic perspectives on why this is so important in the age of AI. A Learning Architecture is a constrained approach to corporate L&D that gives employees a clear and memorable approach to learning, and also gives you the “freedom within a framework” to use AI without creating chaos. We are in the middle of deep interviews, case studies, and vendor research on the impact of AI on L&D, so as I discuss here if you’d like to talk with us please let us know. Some of this podcast will be a good overview of the basics, but this is important because we don’t want our business training environments to look like TikTok! Contact us at https://joshbersin.com if you’d like to join in our Pacesetter program for Corporate L&D. Additional Information Oldie: The Need For A Learning Architecture Autonomous Corporate Learning Platforms: Arriving Now, Powered by AI The $340 Billion Corporate Learning Industry Is Poised For Disruption AI in HR Certificate Program in The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 How MetLife's Talent Marketplace Drives Skills, Energy, & ROI E177 23:08
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode, Susan Podlogar , former CHRO at MetLife, talks with Kathi Enderes about the transformative impact of an AI-based talent marketplace (powered by Gloat ). You’ll learn what a talent marketplace is, how to implement, and why these solutions are rapidly growing around the world. Podlogar explains how they implemented this solution and how it unleashes energy for individuals and the organization. MetLife’s talent marketplace democratizes access to projects, mentoring, and roles, fostering an inclusive culture and enhancing skill development. She also explains how this HR solution drives critical skills development (ie. actuaries) for competitive advantage. As Susan explains, today 60% of employees participate and more than 400,000 of work hours have been saved – driving productivity, engagement, and financial returns. Additional Information The Mad Scramble To Lead The Talent Marketplace Market The Definitive Guide to Building a Dynamic Organization Career and Talent Mobility: Certificate Program In The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 "So HR Is Making You Miserable?" How HR Can Make Their Jobs Better. E176 15:46
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThe NYT published an article explaining how hard it is to be an HR professional. “The job has become an exasperating ordeal. People hate us .” While many people don’t know this, HR is a complex, difficult, and highly strategic profession. And given that HR professionals are caught between leadership and employees, it can often be very frustrating. Despite the challenges, HR is more important than ever. I hope this podcast (and the NYT article) is an inspiration for HR professionals to build your sense of confidence and professional capabilities. ( Learn more about Systemic HR .) Additional Information NYT Article “ So, Human Resources Is Making You Miserable ?” Redefining HR’s Role As A Consultant, Value-Driver, And Center of Innovation: Systemic HR The Josh Bersin Academy: Upping The Game of Thousands of HR Professionals Every Day…
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1 Battle Of The AI Bots, Rethink Talent Acquisition, Workforce Planning? E175 24:21
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this conversation, I discuss three main topics: the battle in the enterprise chatbot space, the transformation of talent acquisition, and the new “sticky” state of the job market. How to make sense of enterprise AI Copilots? Workday and Salesforce team up, Apple Intelligence is coming, how do you make sense of it all? In talent acquisition, there is a shift from a thin model focused on speed and efficiency to a thick model focused on growth and strategic decision-making (Systemic Talent Acquisition). Finally, to address the more “sticky” job market, companies need to improve their workforce planning to navigate the changing economic landscape and leverage alternative sources of talent. Additional Information Workday Salesforce Partnership: Teaming Up For Enterprise AI Here Come The Copilots! Artificial Intelligence in HR Certificate Course The Organization Design SuperClass…
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1 The Future Of The Workforce Has Arrived, Can't You See It? 27:58
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I summarize a series of high-level meetings I’ve had with HR leaders in the EU, where companies are very focused on preparing for tectonic shifts in employee expectations, skills, and work rules. While articles and podcasts continue to talk about “the future of work,” I believe that narrative is over. The industrial work model has ended and the future has arrived, and I describe it clearly in this episode. Takeaways The industrial model of work is decomposing, and the traditional job structure is being replaced by more flexible and agile work arrangements. Employees are changing jobs and industries frequently, and skills have become transportable. Gig, contract, and part-time work is now mainstream, and the 4-day week is coming. Companies need to focus on reskilling employees and promoting learning agility to adapt to the changing workforce. Continuous performance feedback and accountability are becoming more important than annual performance appraisals. High-performing companies have a clear mission, strong leadership, and a focus on employee development and support. AI is transforming the workplace, and HR professionals need to upskill in AI to stay relevant. Additional Information Welcome To The Post-Industrial Age Understanding Galileo, The World’s AI-Powered Expert for HR AI in HR: Certificate Courses in The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 DEI Attacked by SHRM, Civility In The Workplace, And The ROI of AI 25:58
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedToday I broadcast again from Ireland, where I discuss why I disagree with SHRM’s position on DEI, how DEI is undermined and why it remains important, the unfortunate decline in civility in the American workplace, and how we afford the $2 Trillion investments in #AI. (Read our research report Elevating Equity to understand the real-world business case for DEI and pay equity.) Keywords DEI, equity, fairness, civility, values at work, political discourse, ROI of AI, SHRM Takeaways Equity is a crucial aspect of DEI, representing fairness and justice in the workplace, and lives on for many business reasons. Civility is essential for effective communication and collaboration at work. The lack of civility in the United States is a concerning issue that needs to be addressed. The ROI of AI is still uncertain, and organizations need to carefully evaluate the value it brings. Already AI provides time-saving benefits, enables new capabilities, and enhance learning and problem-solving. Additional Resources SHRM’s Problematic DEI Pivot Elevating Equity: Josh Bersin Academy Certificate Course on DEI Civility in the Workplace (research) Goldman Sachs MIT ROI of AI Analysis…
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1 AI Eliminates Jobs At Intuit and UKG, But Not The Way You Thought 14:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss the recent layoffs at UKG and Intuit and how AI played a role quite different than we expected. In both cases the CEOs tell us that AI is the future and that they need large amounts of capital to invest in this new capability, thus they are “pre-replacing” human capital with technology. In addition to this, as I discuss, both companies (Intuit in some detail) describe how “underperformers” were the first to go. So these are somewhat strategic moves to “re-hire” their teams and upgrade skills. And this also points out the very large cost of AI, which forces CEOs to redeploy financial resources from labor to capital. Lots of subtle implications here, and I have to believe other CEOs will look at this and consider the same moves. Additional Information UKG and Intuit Reductions In Force: Both Growth Moves AI in HR Professional Certificate Program , from The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 WhatWorks: HR Transformation at Bon Secours Mercy Health 20:10
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis is the inaugural podcast in our new WhatWorks Series, focused on stories and case studies of the world’s most interesting and creative HR teams. In this podcast, Kathi Enderes, SVP and Global Analyst, interviews Allan Calonge , CHRO, and Levi Loverkamp , Chief Workforce Planning Officer, describe how Bon Secours Mercy Health’s systemic HR integrates cross-functional collaboration, data-driven decisions, and career pathways through a partnership with Guild. Led by CHRO Joe Gage, the HR team emphasizes trust, long tenures, and a robust people insights and analytics capability, transforming talent management and organizational culture. Listeners can learn about Systemic HR and how to transform HR in this podcast. The WhatWorks Series will include interviews with pacesetter HR leaders, teams, and vendors. If you have a story you’d like to share, please contact us. Additional Information The Systemic HR Initiative Why Is It So Hard To Be A Chief HR Officer (CHRO)? Learn about Galileo, the World’s AI Expert Assistant for HR Special Josh Bersin Academy Course: AI in HR (highly acclaimed)…
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1 Are You Ready For The Reinvention Of Learning & Development? It's Here! 21:30
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss the four huge transformations taking place in corporate learning & development, all driven by AI. Join me in the discussion here and you can learn more in The Josh Bersin Academy , where we just launched our AI in HR Course and two mobile-learning micro-courses on AI use cases and Generative AI best-practices. Outline: The learning and development industry is going through a significant reinvention driven by AI and other emerging technologies. AI is disrupting the traditional instructional delivery paradigm by automating content creation and personalizing learning experiences. The learning and development technology stack is undergoing radical changes, with learning management systems being commoditized and learning experience platforms struggling to define their role. The consumption of learning is becoming hyper-personalized, and learning and knowledge management are converging. The roles in L&D will totally change. Additional Information Introducing Galileo, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR HR Predictions for 2024: The Global Search For Productivity Why Do Companies Hire Too Many People?…
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1 So You Want To Be A Chief HR Officer? Why It's Harder Than It Looks 18:36
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I walk through a few of the findings from our CHRO Insights® research, explaining why the CHRO role has become more complex and difficult than ever. This podcast episode discusses the challenges, issues, drivers, success factors, and derailers of being a head of HR or CHRO. I share early insights from a massive research project that studied 47,000 heads of HR from various industries and sectors. The research reveals that many CHROs did not come from their own company, indicating a lack of succession management and internal development. It also highlights the complex and multifunctional nature of the CHRO role, requiring HR domain expertise, C-level executive skills, systemic thinking, comfort with data and technology, and a good understanding of human nature. If you are hiring a CHRO or aspiring to a senior HR role, listen in. And read my in-depth article on the topic . Chapters 00:00 Introduction: The Success and Frustrations of Being a CHRO or Head of HR 04:10 Insights from a Massive Research Project on CHROs 09:21 The Challenges of Moving into a CHRO Role 16:06 The Complex and Multifunctional Nature of the CHRO Role 21:53 Conclusion: Opportunities for CHROs to Learn and Connect Additional Information The Ever Expanding Role of the CHRO (YouTube) Introducing The Systemic HR Initiative Learn about Galileo, the World’s AI Expert Assistant for HR Special Josh Bersin Academy Course: AI in HR (highly acclaimed)…
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1 Arist Pioneers AI-Driven Autonomous Learning In The Flow Of Work 28:17
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedArist , a fascinating new company in corporate learning, is reinventing how we develop, deliver, and consume content. And yes, these guys are bringing Autonomous Learning to companies today, in a very special format. In this podcast I interviewed Michael Ioffe, Ryan Laverty, and Maxine Anderson, the three founders. Not only is the technology fascinating, this is also an example of how a strong, integrated management team can build a business quickly. Arist was founded in 2019 and is quickly becoming a category leader in micro-learning and what I call “ learning in the flow of work .” If you’re trying to reinvent your slow, clunky, expensive, training process, this podcast will give you some amazing new ideas. And you can experience this amazing experience in the two free courses below! Additional Information (And Experience the Content!) Autonomous Corporate Learning Platforms: Arriving Now, Powered by AI Arist Course: Becoming a Gen AI Savvy HR Professional (Free) SMS: Text “GENAI” to 20202 via SMS (US only) WhatsApp: Text “GENAI” to +1 903-459-6893 Arist Course: Josh Bersin’s HR Predictions for 2024 (Free) SMS: Text JBA2024 to 20202 WhatsApp: Text JBA2024 to +1 903-459-6893 Join The Josh Bersin Academy for more!…
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1 Chatbot Architecture: MS Copilot, Joule, Galileo™, and The Future of L&D 19:45
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode I explain what’s happening in the Chatbot or “Intelligent Agent” market as vendors produce Copilots and we start to figure out how they’ll work together. I discuss our own plans for Galileo and explain how SAP Joule is partnering with Microsoft to integrate these agents. It’s early days and vendors like ServiceNow, Workday, and others are actively working here. Then I give you some insights on our massive new research program in corporate L&D. Yes, AI is the big disruptor hitting corporate training and I explain why this is far bigger than the e-learning era we experienced 24 years ago. Additional Information Learn about Galileo, the World’s AI Expert Assistant for HR Special Josh Bersin Academy Course: AI in HR (highly acclaimed) Autonomous Learning Platforms: Arriving Now, Powered by AI Galileo Availability With Four New Trusted Content Partners…
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1 A New, Transformed Role For The HR Business Partner 21:55
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I describe the new, transformed role of HR Business Partner. This pivotal position, which was defined 25+ years ago as an “HR Generalist,” has now become pivotal to a company’s successful people strategy. If you want to learn more, check out our most popular course in the Josh Bersin Academy, the HR Consulting Masterclass , or call us for advice. Of all the things we deal with in business, none are as important as having the right level of management, leadership, and HR expertise at the point of need. This is the new role for the HRBP, and this podcast gives specific examples. This topic is part of our complete Systemic HR advisory program, which has been rolling out over the last year. If you’re trying to make your HR team or HR department more effective, please give us a call. Additional Information Introducing the Systemic HR Initiative Introducing Galileo, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR Overview of Systemic HR: The Four Levels Of Maturity (podcast)…
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1 How To Globalize Quickly? Globalization Partners Explains The EOR Market. 23:21
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedGlobalization Partners (G-P), a company specializing in global employer of record services (EOR), discusses the complexities and opportunities in the global employment market. They emphasize the importance of compliance, automation, and the human touch in their approach. In this podcast I interview Nicole Sahin, Founder and CEO, and Nat Nataranjan, Chief Product Officer. The EOR space is massive: including providers like G-P, Deel, Oyster, Remote, Papaya Global, Rippling, and others. In this interview Nicole and Nat explain the history of the market and how G-P has built its highly service-centric, technology-agnostic, partner-centric approach to global hiring and growth. Additional Information The Global Workforce Intelligence Project EOR Provider Deel Expands Into HCM (and Payroll)…
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1 Citizenship At Work: Dealing With Politics Inside and Outside The Company 22:05
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedGiven this week’s political news, I wanted to share my thoughts on “Citizenship,” the way we as employees and individuals work together to help our company and our society make decisions the benefit everyone. We live in a world of shatteringly fast change, with two global wars, a rising sense of mistrust of political systems, and enormous changes to our working and family lives. Despite all this change, and the difficult decisions we must make, there is a process for continuous improvement. And this process, which I label Citizenship, applies to our companies, our teams, as well as our cities, states, and societies. This podcast discusses this issue and is here to convince you that you, as an individual manager, employee, or leader, have an enormously important role in creating a positive, high-performing community in your company. Citizenship: the character of an individual viewed as a member of society; behavior in terms of the duties, obligations, and functions of a citizen: e.g. an award for good citizenship. (Dictionary.com, based on Oxford English Dictionary.) Sound Bites “The reason we have political systems in the world is to find a way for individuals and businesses to legislate, debate, argue, and negotiate the resource allocation of a country, of a state, or a city.” “A company is essentially a small society. We have to make decisions on how we allocate resources as well.” “Citizenship to me is a really wonderful word because what it tends to mean is you as an individual, we as individuals have two fundamental roles in society.” Keywords politics, citizenship, resource allocation, organizations, internal citizenship, diversity, financial performance, Workday, DEI, Starbucks, society, government Additional Information World-Class Diversity and Inclusion: Elevating Equity (Josh Bersin Academy Certificate Course) The Voice of the Employee (Certificate Course) Giving Voice to Values (Certificate Course) Citizenship On The Rise: What This Means To Business and HR…
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1 M&A In HR Tech and Implications Of The Workday-HiredScore Deal 21:16
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week Workday announced plans to acquire HiredScore and while it may seem tactical, this deal could have bigger implications. In this podcast I discuss M&A in HR Tech and why we may be entering a new AI-fueled cycle of M&A activity. Additional Information Workday To Acquire HiredScore, A Potential Shakeup In HR Technology Introducing Galileo, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR HR Predictions for 2024: The Global Search For Productivity Understanding AI in HR The Talent Intelligence Primer…
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1 The Wakeup Call To Colleges: A Growing "Worthlessness" Of Degrees 18:10
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAs companies shift heavily towards “skills-based hiring” to remove bias, we now see the unintended consequence. Half of all US college graduates are now “underemployed” and 52% of college grads never use the skills they studied in school. This new study, which looks at 10-year job histories of college graduates in the US found that “of the graduates in non-college-level jobs a year after leaving college, the vast majority remained underemployed a decade later.” This study included college grads from 2012 to 2021, conducted by Burning Glass Institute and Strada Education. What’s going on? Hundreds of studies continue to show that college graduates outperform non-grads. The Social Security administration itself states . Men with bachelor’s degrees earn approximately $900,000 more in median lifetime earnings than high school graduates. Women with bachelor’s degrees earn $630,000 more. The Burning-Glass/Strada report also points out that students have seen this coming. College applications are down and students are moving away from liberal arts toward trade-oriented degrees in computer science and engineering. Is this a big wakeup call to Colleges? It sure is. Listen to my explanation about what’s going on. Additional Information Autonomous Corporate Learning Platforms: Arriving Now, Powered by AI Irresistible 2024: Join Us This May ! Introducing Our New “AI in HR” Certificate Course…
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1 Interview With Joel Hellermark, CEO of Sana - AI-Powered Learning Arrives 32:02
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I interview Joel Hellermark, the founder and CEO of Sana , one of the most exciting new learning and AI platforms in the market. As you'll hear, Joel has a vision for corporate learning which many of us have dreamed about, and he explains how he's bringing it to reality. Over the coming months I will be interviewing other HR Technology CEOs, focused on exploring the many innovations created through AI and other advanced machine learning technologies. So stay tuned for more. Please mark your calendar and sign up for Irresistible 2024 , May 20-22 at USC in Los Angeles. This star-studded event will be "the HR Executive Confab Of The Year" I promise you, and we have many special guests to tell you about. Additional Information Introducing Our New “AI in HR” Certificate Course Introducing Galileo™, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR HR Predictions for 2024: The Global Search For Productivity…
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1 What's Wrong With The Recruiting Department? 20:34
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss the urgent need to better automate, upskill, and integrate recruiting. CEOs believe recruiting is the third "most time-wasting" process in their companies (after emails and meetings), yet it's more important than ever. This year companies need to really rethink and transform this function, and this podcast explains the issue. And yes, AI is part of the answer. Additional Information Why Do Companies Hire Too Many People? HR Predictions for 2024: The Global Search For Productivity Are Diversity And Inclusion Programs Going Away? AI in HR: Brand New** Certificate Program From The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 Why Do Companies Hire Too Many People? And What About Meta's Earnings? 22:52
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week Meta (Facebook) announced revenue growth of 25% year over year and a headcount cut of 22%, with net income soaring to $14 billion, almost a 35% net profit. That spectacular outcome is a result of focus and a clear and rigorous process of reducing headcount. But the big story is not this company, it's the big idea that companies often over-hire . And this over-hiring results in bureaucracy, slowdown, and loss of innovation. Just as Meta has learned this, I believe every company has to learn this lesson. In today's talent-constrained global economy, it's time to run our companies with a focus on "fewer people" and "more clarity." This podcast explains. Additional Information The Myth of the Bell Curve The Dynamic Organization Research HR and HR Technology Predictions for 2024 The Four Day Work Week Arrives…
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1 Why Does Netflix Outperform? They are a "Dynamic Organization." Here's What We've Learned. 25:00
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I discuss our Dynamic Organization research and how this new way of running a company is rapidly growing around the world. As the title points out, Dynamic Organizations are 31X more effective at bringing innovations to market and far outperform their peers (Netflix is discussed in detail). But this is not as easy as it seems. This podcast is a summary of 200+ discussions we had with HR leaders this week, talking about speed and agility in organization design, Irresistible Leadership, and the urgent need for a more dynamic operating model for HR which we call Systemic HR. I encourage you to listen because it brings together these three pivotal ideas and will help you build a more productive team and company as the labor market gets hotter this year. Additional Information HR Predictions for 2024: The Global Search For Productivit y Introducing The Systemic HR™ Initiative Building A Dynamic Organization Companies Have Been Neglecting Their Leadership, And It Shows…
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1 Our 15 Predictions for Work, Technology, and HR in 2024 19:55
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I tell the narrative for the 2024 predictions, and why labor shortages, productivity, and dynamic organization models will become core topics this year. I also discuss the new role of DEI, employee activation, labor unions, and what we can expect in the economy. The 15 predictions are all imperatives and our new research should help you learn, prioritize where to focus, and see around the corners for this exciting year ahead. Additional Resources HR Predictions for 2024: The Global Search For Productivity Are Diversity And Inclusion Programs Going Away? The Predictions Infographic Get the Predictions Report and Action Guide: Join The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 Employee Activation: Redefining The Employee Survey 14:21
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I introduce a big idea: Employee Activation. This idea, which comes from important work we’re doing with Medallia, shows you how to move “beyond engagement” to a whole new world of employee listening and action-taking based on feedback. In the new world of labor shortages, high turnover, unions, and general employee stress, Employee Activation might be the big answer. Here’s a definition: “Employee Activation means designing the company so that managers, line executives, and employees can adjust, change, and redesign work around worker’s needs, suggestions, and demands.” (This week’s podcast was recorded on a walk, so I apologize for some of the “animal sounds” in the background) Additional Information Is DEI about to DIE? Welcome to The Post-Industrial Age (Labor shortages as far as the eye can see) Why AI Projects Are More Like Traditional IT Projects Than You Think…
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1 2024 is Here. Is DEI going to DIE? What Do We Do About These Job Numbers? 19:07
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like Liked2024 is off with a bang. The death or decline of DEI strategies, increased activity among unions, and job numbers in December that predict a secular labor shortage for years ahead. In this podcast I give HR and business leaders some advices on "what to do about DEI programs" in this new political environment, and how to think about this ongoing labor shortage. Imagine a world where every employee has 15 job offers to think about each day? That's where we are! And get ready for our comprehensive Predictions report coming this month! More Resources Are Diversity And Inclusion Programs Going Away? Conservatives Going After Corporate DEI Programs Next Bill Ackman Letter re: Harvard Elevating Equity: Best-Selling Certificate Course in The Josh Bersin Academy…
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1 The Big Stories Of 2023 and What To Expect In 2024 23:33
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this podcast I walk through the big business and HR stories of 2023 and what they tell us for the year ahead. 2024 looks like a year with a strong economy, continued labor shortages, with employees continuing to take charge. And as you expect, AI will change everything. And there's one big story that defines everything, but you'll have to listen to the podcast to hear it. Join me as we look ahead and stay tuned for our detailed 2024 Predictions report coming in January.…
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1 One Of The Secrets To Success In 2024 Is... Care 20:43
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAs I look back on the year and think about all the challenges we face in business, I'm reminded of the simple human formula of how we care for each other. This topic, that of "care," is not something people talk about a lot at work. But in many ways it's fundamental to business success. This podcast explores that issue. Additional Information Workplace Mental Health Has Become A Strategy For Business Performance The Four-Day Work Week: An Idea Whose Time Has Come The Healthy Organization: Next Big Thing In Employee Wellbeing Corporate Citizenship Redefined: Trust, Inclusion, and Responsibility…
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1 Understanding The Knowledge Graph Of HR: Galileo™ AI Unveiled 19:38
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThis week I want to give you some insights on AI, the use of LLM's, and how to think about a "knowledge graph" for your company, and how it applies to HR. Yes, your AI strategy, your employee experience strategy, and your own career as a professional are all dependent on your "Knowledge Graph." In HR your knowledge graph includes your understanding of HR practices, vendors and tools, economic and workforce data, company culture, industry trends, HR benchmarks, and the many case studies of successful solutions in the domain. If you think about the knowledge graph in your company, you can develop the right AI strategy for the organization. Additional Information How To Execute The Four-Day Workweek (Harvard Business Review) Introducing Galileo™, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR Why Are Some Companies More Dynamic Than Others?…
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1 Four-Day Work Week: Not A Benefit, A Performance Improvement Program. 17:57
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWe've just completed a major study of the 4-day week and the results are surprising: companies of all sizes are seeing real benefits and this podcast explains why. While we've all been comfortable with the 5-day week since the early 1920s, it's now time to let go of that paradigm. Lots to discuss and think about here, but it's real. Additional Information Our New Research and Toolkit On The Four-Day Workweek The Four-Day Work Week: An Idea Whose Time Has Come (Videos and Examples) Your Co-Workers Are Less Ambitious Than You Were (Qualtrics and WSJ)…
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1 What Is The Role Of An Expert In The Age Of AI? 25:07
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedI bet you're an expert at something. We all are. But how will it feel when a Generative AI becomes deeper and more expert than we are? In this podcast I describe what an "Expert" really is, and why Gen AI has the potential to totally change the market for Experts: not only HR consultants, but lawyers, accountants, scientists, and more. And that means we "Experts" need to up our game. Consulting firms watch out. After many weeks using our new platform Galileo™, I'm amazed at what it can do. This podcast explains how it works and how "expertise" is created by AI. Additional Information Introducing Galileo™, The World’s First AI-Powered Expert Assistant For HR (Join the waitlist ) Building A Company Skills Strategy: Harder (and More Important) Than It Looks Understanding An Expert System (Wikipedia)…
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1 The OpenAI, Sam Altman Drama In Perspective: What Have We Learned? 15:23
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedThe OpenAI board saga has been fun to read about, but now that it's settling down what have we learned? In this podcast I recap the last week's events and give you some perspectives on tech companies, leadership, employee activation, and culture. And by the way, what is the role of the board and where does it fit? And why is Sam Altman so important? As you'll hear, the big lesson here is that the most important stakeholders are not the board , but the employees, management, leadership, and culture. And I share lots of stories about tech companies, leadership, culture, and growth. Additional Information Companies Have Been Neglecting Their Leadership, And It Shows The Big Reset Playbook: Organizational Culture and Change Agility The Unbelievable, Critical, Never-Ending Role Of Culture In Business…
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