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Beyond the Deal

Michael Wagman

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Beyond the Deal is podcast hosted by Michael Wagman. He has created a life of freedom and travel using passive income generated through real estate investing and raising capital. In this podcast Michael interviews guests who have been successful in the world of real estate investing or alternative investments, and they go beyond the deal to discuss the stories and practices that ultimately laid the groundwork to success.
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In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman brings together insights from six real estate entrepreneurs who’ve mastered the art of buying, scaling, and managing real estate across different asset types. You’ll learn: ✅ How to spot hidden market gaps ✅ The power of exclusivity in acquisitions ✅ Creative ways to build …
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael sits down with his former student turned deal partner, Jacobo Hernandez, to share the story behind their newest acquisition, a 59-unit motel in Eureka Springs, Arkansas that they’re converting into a boutique hotel. They break down: ✔️ How they found the deal after reviewing 2,000+ properties ✔️ Why baby …
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In this special behind-the-scenes episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman is joined by his business partner Mike Angelo to break down one of their most unique projects to date: transforming a neglected warehouse in Casa Grande, Arizona into a thriving entertainment and retail hub called The Terminal. They walk through: ✅ How they discovered…
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In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman brings together six powerful voices sharing the real habits that keep them sharp, steady, and successful. From sleep routines and mindset rituals to social media limits, fitness commitments, and purposeful journaling, you’ll hear the small daily decisions that create massiv…
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In this special compilation episode of Beyond the Deal, we bring you five powerful origin stories from real estate entrepreneurs who took very different paths, but all ended up building a business in real estate. From gut-wrenching personal loss to casual curiosity, each guest reveals the pivotal moment that made them rethink their future and take …
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Cyndee Harding, a capital raiser who discovered her true calling in asset management. After helping raise over $5 million in her first year, Cyndee realized the real challenge wasn’t just getting into deals—it was managing them responsibly after the close. She shares how steppin…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Sylvia Khoury, a single mother of three who turned to real estate to support her family—while caring for her terminally ill parents and navigating a demanding pharmacy career. Sylvia shares how she transitioned from buying rental homes to investing in multifamily properties, why…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Brian Dordevic, an immigrant from Serbia who went from earning $4/hour as a virtual assistant to leading a 20+ person SEO team in the U.S. Brian shares his incredible journey, from working in South Side Chicago to building a thriving business that helps local service providers d…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Tyler Harding, a multifamily operator who left retail management to build a thriving real estate portfolio alongside his entire family. From a spreadsheet plan to buy single-family homes one by one, to managing 750+ units today, Tyler’s story is a crash course in scaling smarter…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with David Hrizak—a serial operator and acquirer who’s built his career by mastering the fundamentals: great partnerships, operational excellence, and long-term thinking. David shares how he transitioned from contractor gigs to acquiring companies, why he bets on people first, and ho…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Jacobo Hernandez, the entrepreneur who unknowingly launched Michael’s coaching journey. From building a 7-figure Amazon business and weathering supplier sabotage, to scaling Airbnbs with social media-style tactics, Jacobo reveals the mindset and strategies that helped him thrive…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, Michael Wagman speaks with Sid Shamim—an engineer-turned-entrepreneur who walked away from a high-paying oil and gas job to take control of his first underperforming apartment complex. That decision sparked a 10+ year journey to building a vertically integrated real estate firm managing over $500 million in asset…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Pat Zingarella, founder of InvestClearly, a platform that’s changing the way Limited Partners (LPs) evaluate General Partners (GPs) in real estate syndications. Pat shares how his own experience with a fraudulent operator inspired him to create a review platform for LPs, where v…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Alice Chen, former corporate lawyer turned serial entrepreneur and private equity investor. Alice shares her remarkable journey from working in mergers and acquisitions law to founding multiple businesses—including a top Canadian wine export firm and a boutique M&A company acqui…
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What if you could scale and exit multiple companies—without being the expert in the trade? In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Guy Salani, a serial entrepreneur and mentor who’s built and exited 4+ home improvement businesses in roofing, siding, closets, cabinetry, and more. 🚀 Want to raise capital and scale your …
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Lauren Brychell, a capital raising expert and founder of Equity Elevated, who has personally raised over $55 million in retail capital, primarily in the self-storage space. Lauren shares how she went from being hired for marketing to leading investor relations at a major self-st…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman is joined by Kaaren Hall, founder and CEO of uDirect IRA Services and co-author of The BiggerPockets Guide to Self-Directed IRA Investing. With 15+ years in the industry, Kaaren shares how she built one of the leading self-directed IRA companies in the country, helping thousands of investors u…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Jay Bourgana, a serial entrepreneur, investor, and founder of Acquisition Collective, who’s quietly built a business empire through strategic small business acquisitions and roll-ups. Jay shares his journey from growing up in Morocco and working in global operations to building …
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman is joined by Brad Blazar, capital-raising expert and founder of Capital School, to explore the proven strategies behind raising over $2 billion in investor capital. Brad shares his journey from launching his own oil and gas fund in his twenties to becoming a nationally recognized speaker and a…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Zander Kempf, a former military officer turned RV and glamping resort developer. Zander shares how he went from flipping houses to scaling a multi-million-dollar portfolio of high-cash-flow outdoor hospitality properties near national parks. Zander explains why he left tradition…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Keshav Kalor, a rising star in the world of alternative investments who’s raising millions while working full-time at Meta. As the founder of Clive Capital, Keshav specializes in helping tech professionals build generational wealth through real estate, private lending, and oil &…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Litan Yahav, a 2x tech founder who successfully exited his company and transitioned into real estate syndications and private equity investing. Litan shares his journey from the diamond industry startup world to launching VYZER, a wealth management platform designed to help inve…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Eric Tomei, a full-time physical therapist who has successfully built a real estate empire while maintaining his career. With over 125 house flips, multiple multifamily investments, and a focus on commercial real estate, Eric shares his strategic approach to scaling a real estat…
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Lost money on a deal? Wondering how to bounce back and scale? Meet Joshua Ferrari, a former aircraft technician turned real estate investor, who went from losing $60,000 on his first deal to managing a $75 million portfolio and raising $27 million in investor capital. Want to learn how to raise capital and scale your investments? 🔗 Book a free disc…
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In this episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman sits down with Tim Fergestad, a neuroscientist turned real estate investor, to discuss his incredible transition from academic research to building financial freedom through multifamily investing. Tim shares how his background in science shaped his analytical approach to real estate, why he le…
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Facing a layoff? Wondering how to pivot into real estate success? Watch this inspiring conversation with Randy Smith, founder and CEO of Impact Equity Group, as he shares his journey from corporate setbacks to becoming a capital raiser and fund manager. Want to learn how to raise capital and gain financial freedom? Book a free discovery call: 🔗 htt…
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In this episode of the Beyond the Deal podcast, host Michael Wagman dives deep with Alan Underwood, a visionary real estate developer and charity leader in San Diego, California. Alan shares his extraordinary story of turning unimaginable loss into a purpose-driven life. From navigating profound grief to leading Angel Flight West—a charitable aviat…
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In the debut episode of Beyond the Deal, host Michael Wagman introduces his business partner, Mike Angelo, as they share the transformative journey from a high-pressure corporate career to multifamily real estate success. Mike reflects on his leap into real estate investing, the lessons learned from early mistakes, and the drive to secure financial…
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