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1 383. AMMA — Why Comfort Will Quietly Destroy Your Law Firm 21:37
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIf everything feels “fine” at your firm, you might already be in trouble. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle the quiet killer of growth: comfort. As we hit the halfway point of the year, many law firm owners start to coast — but that’s exactly when progress stalls. If your firm feels like it’s plateauing, your goals are slipping, or your team’s feedback just isn’t landing, this conversation will help you reset, refocus, and move forward with intention. Here's what you'll learn: Why waiting for the perfect time to restart is keeping you stuck right where you are How comfort creates blind spots that slowly stall your law firm's growth What it takes to deliver feedback that inspires real change without sacrificing standards Comfort is the enemy of progress. This episode is your wake-up call to get back in the cold plunge and keep pushing forward. ---- 00:00 - Intro 02:52 - The halfway mark of the year and the trap of waiting until January 04:39 - What hitting 20,000 Peloton minutes teaches about consistency and momentum 06:29 - Why small wins today matter more than perfect starts tomorrow 10:02 - How to know when your "fine" firm actually needs outside perspective 11:32 - Why comfort is the most dangerous threat to your law firm's growth 14:05 - How to give direct feedback that actually drives change 17:06 - The difference between radical candor and harmful apathy 18:35 - Which feedback to apply — and what to ignore ---- Links & Resources: The Hard Thing About Hard Things by Ben Horowitz Radical Candor by Kim Scott Peloton Annual Challenge ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 255. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 360. The Hidden Formula for Unstoppable Motivation and Achievement 363. AMMA — How to Master Decision-Making Like a Pro…
1 382. What It Takes to Build a $100M Legal Business 48:57
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedYou don’t scale by working harder. You scale by thinking bigger and leading better. In this special episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , we’re re-airing a powerful conversation between Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill and Chris Dreyer of the Personal Injury Mastermind Podcast. Together, they unpack what it truly takes to grow a legal business through chaos, complexity, and scale to reach nine figures. Michael shares the mindset, systems, and personal discipline that allowed him to help over 1,000 law firms grow by $1M each, and now he’s setting his sights on creating a $100B impact across the legal industry. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why most law firms stall out at seven figures (and how to break through) How to make the leap from “comfortable” to category leader What it takes to build and recruit a high-performance team that scales with you If you want to build something truly meaningful, this episode is your roadmap to what’s next. ---- Show Notes: 02:16 — Michael’s $1B vision becomes reality: 1,000+ firms reach $1M+ growth 05:07 — Why small, “attainable” goals won’t build a $100M firm 06:16 — The legal industry is changing fast: private equity, AI, and ownership shifts 14:09 — What separates firms that stall at 7 figures from those that scale 22:01 — How to recruit top talent and build a team that scales 24:11 — The Streaming Stack strategy that puts your firm on every screen 35:04 — The long-term ROI of brand building vs. short-term lead gen ---- Links & Resources: Personal Injury Mindset Podcast Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl The Sport of Business by Mark Cuban Rippling Peloton Tread ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 294. The Blueprint to Law Firm Expansion 296. Creating a Competitive Edge: Lessons in Legal Leadership 380. The Real Reason Clients Choose One Lawyer Over Another…
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat got you here might not get you where you want to go. And for many law firm owners, that realization is difficult to accept. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill explores why the survival mentality that helps firm owners get off the ground often becomes a liability as they grow. From micromanaging teams to avoiding calculated risks, this episode reveals what it really takes to move from operator to strategic leader. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why the survival mindset that once protected you can now hold you back How to stop being disappointed in your team by setting clear expectations What it takes to stop reacting tactically and start thinking like a visionary Start thinking like a visionary so you can lead your firm to the next level. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Intro 02:12 – Kicking off with screen time, digital addictions, and phone habits 05:50 – How to stay focused with tools like Opal and scheduled restrictions 07:43 – A law firm owner shares frustration with team disappointment 08:25 – Why unspoken expectations are the root of resentment 10:00 – How to shift accountability back to yourself as the leader 13:11 – Strategic thinking versus tactical reacting 17:44 – Shifting from survival mode to playing with house money 23:38 – Wrapping up with a mindset check and final thoughts ---- Links & Resources: Opal App WHOOP App Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs John Maxwell Jesse Cole – Savannah Bananas Jerry Seinfeld’s Productivity Strategy Robert Greene ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 138. Anthony Johnson — Industry Disruption is the Key to Survival 375. AMMA — Stop Being The Bottleneck: Lead Your Firm Without Being Needed 317. AMMA — Crushing Mediocrity: The Art of Setting and Meeting Higher Expectations…
1 380. The Real Reason Clients Choose One Lawyer Over Another 26:07
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat does it really take to grow a law firm in today’s hypercompetitive, tech-driven legal landscape? In this special episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , we’re re-airing a powerful conversation between Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill and the hosts of the LAWsome Podcast. From humble beginnings with just $500 to his name to leading a fast growing legal marketing company, Michael unpacks what it takes to thrive as a law firm owner, especially when the odds are stacked against you. Whether you’re building your brand, navigating fear, or facing down massive competitors, this conversation is packed with honest insights you won’t want to miss. If you’re ready to bet on yourself, break through the noise, and build a law firm that stands out, this episode is your blueprint. Here’s what you’ll learn: How to overcome fear and uncertainty when starting or scaling your law firm Why clarity of purpose and brand identity is essential for standing out in a crowded market How to compete strategically; even when you’re up against bigger firms with bigger budgets If you’re playing not to lose, you’re already falling behind. This episode is your call to play to win. ---- Show Notes: 02:13 — Michael’s origin story: From $500 and a camera to founding Crisp 03:58 — How Crisp found its niche helping attorneys stand out in saturated markets 06:11 — The Best Buy TV hustle: Doing whatever it takes in the early days 06:31 — How to overcome fear, take risks, and bet on yourself (feat. Armageddon) 11:05 — Making video work: Michael’s guide to content creation, distribution, and ROI 15:14 — Clarifying your firm’s identity: How to uncover the “why” behind your brand 18:31 — The top 3 challenges law firms face in today’s legal landscape 20:05 — How smaller firms can outmaneuver bigger competitors without matching their budgets 22:45 — Why embracing AI is no longer optional — and how to get started 24:25 — Don’t do it alone: Why community and collaboration accelerate your growth 25:16 — Closing thoughts and 3 free ways to grow your law firm with Crisp ---- Links & Resources: LAWsome Podcast ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 294. The Blueprint to Law Firm Expansion 296. Creating a Competitive Edge: Lessons in Legal Leadership…
1 379. AMMA — If You’re Still Chasing Leads, You’ve Already Lost 26:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedMore leads won’t fix bad positioning. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill explains why firms that focus on visibility without strategy end up attracting the wrong clients. From wasting marketing dollars to obsessing over ROI at the expense of long-term brand equity, this episode unpacks the difference between chasing leads and becoming the obvious choice. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why more exposure doesn’t matter if your message attracts the wrong clients How to build a high-converting marketing strategy without obsessing over attribution What it takes to stop chasing leads — and start commanding attention Stop marketing like a commodity — and start building a brand. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 — Intro banter: Broadway shows, Meta glasses, and authentic nerdiness 06:50 — Why more leads aren’t solving your problem — your messaging is 08:37 — How to refine your targeting and attract the right clients 12:11 — Positioning vs. price-shopping: What your marketing says about you 13:04 — Are your competitors wasting money or winning market share? 16:09 — Why your best cases can’t be traced back to a single source 18:32 — Why blended ROI matters more than last-touch attribution 21:57 — Content consumption drives conversion, not just clicks ---- Links & Resources: Meta Ray-Ban Smart Glasses ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 280. Rory Vaden — Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding 215. Flo Rida — Industry Innovation, Commitment to Your Craft, and Hit-Making 333. AMMA — Win More High-Value Cases: How to Build a Brand Clients Trust…
1 378. Your Law Firm's Ads Suck: Here's Why (and How to Fix Them) with Billy Gene Shaw [Encore Edition] 48:55
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedYou don’t need more time — you need fewer excuses. In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with social media advertising powerhouse Billy Gene Shaw to unpack what it really takes to win in a digital-first world. From growing up with nothing to reaching millions daily, Billy shares the mindset, skillset, and speed it takes to stay relevant, dominate attention, and build a brand that can’t be ignored. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why imperfect execution beats perfect hesitation — every single time How to build brand equity through content (even if no one knows who you are — yet) What it takes to be truly valuable in a saturated, attention-starved market You’re not too late — you’re just not moving fast enough.. ---- Show Notes: 00:00:00 — Introduction: Why Billy Gene’s message still resonates 00:03:47 — From welfare to wealth: The origin story that shaped his mission 00:06:53 — The class he walked away from and the lesson in choosing freedom 00:14:30 — The $80 test that unlocked his digital empire 00:18:13 — Why making people laugh can make you rich 00:20:37 — Speed over polish: How imperfect execution wins 00:25:19 — Controlling your narrative in a digital world 00:45:02 — What it really means to be a game changer ---- Links & Resources: Billy Gene is Marketing University of San Diego Tony Robbins Shark Tank Daymond John Dollar Shave Club Poo~Pourri ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 19. Harlan Schillinger — The Future of Legal Marketing 348. Ross Pomerantz. Sales, Sarcasm, and Success: Inside the Mind of Corporate Bro 358. Your Competitors Don't Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies…
1 377. AMMA — Market Chaos: How to Not Just Survive, But Thrive 16:55
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if the greatest threat to your law firm isn’t change — but your refusal to adapt? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill confronts the fear, uncertainty, and opportunity facing firm owners in a rapidly shifting legal landscape. From private equity to AI disruption to non-lawyer ownership, this conversation goes beyond survival mode — and into the mindset, systems, and leadership required to thrive when the rules change. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why the value of your firm is inversely proportional to how much it depends on you How to leverage AI behind the scenes, without compromising your brand What it takes to lead with vision and resilience when the future feels uncertain In chaotic times, the most resourceful leaders rise — will you be one of them? ---- Show Notes: 00:00 — Introduction 03:59 — The threat (and opportunity) of non-lawyer ownership: What it means for your firm’s value 05:00 — Why your law firm’s worth drops the more it depends on you 06:36 — What makes a firm truly valuable — and how to build it 08:06 — Should you market your use of AI? Here’s what actually matters 09:31 — The back-end power of AI: Make your firm more efficient, not cheaper 10:52 — Feeling defeated? Here’s why giving up isn’t the answer 13:18 — Resourcefulness > resources: Who really wins in uncertain markets 15:25 — The mindset shift every firm owner needs right now ---- Links & Resources: LSA (Local Services Ads) Google Ads ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 291 — Tim Grover — The Dark Side of Achievement Episode 229 — David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within Episode 258 — AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth…
1 376. Best of AMMA — Brand-Building Secrets Your Competitors Will Hate You For 24:42
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat does it really take to stand out in a crowded legal market? In this special mashup edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , we’re diving deep into the most common questions law firm owners ask when it comes to building visibility, authority, and a brand that actually brings in high-value cases. You’ll hear real, unfiltered answers from Michael Mogill as he breaks down what separates the firms that scale from the ones that stay stuck. From establishing a niche to amplifying your impact, this episode is a crash course in how to get known — and stay known. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why being the best won’t matter if no one knows who you are How to build trust and authority through consistent, niche content What it really takes to turn your expertise into high-value cases Whether you’re just getting started or already have a strong reputation, this episode will challenge you to raise the bar — because if they don’t know you exist, your expertise can’t help anyone. ---- Show Notes: 0:00 — Introduction 2:46 — How top law firms consistently attract high-value cases 5:43 — Why niching down gives you an unfair advantage 7:17 — What it takes to become known for your client experience 11:25 — Does real expertise still matter in the age of influencers? 14:41 — The mindset shift every great legal marketer must make 17:39 — When competitors copy you: how to stay ahead by innovating ---- Links & Resources: David Goggins Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins Andrew Huberman ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 244. Rex Elliott — Committed to Impact: Transforming Adversities into Opportunities 287. Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation 308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel…
1 375. AMMA — Stop Being The Bottleneck: Lead Your Firm Without Being Needed 22:49
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedYou didn’t build a business just to stay stuck in it — so why are you still the one holding it back? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael and Jessica Mogill challenge the belief that being essential to your business is a badge of honor. Instead, they reveal why the most effective law firm leaders are the ones who build systems, empower teams, and make themselves operationally unnecessary. From learning how to keep a pulse without micromanaging to redefining your role as CEO, this episode is a tactical playbook for law firm owners who want to scale without staying stuck in the center of everything. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why stepping back from daily operations doesn’t mean losing control — and how to keep a real-time pulse without micromanaging. How boredom can signal it’s time to raise your standards, redefine your role, or set a bigger vision for your firm. What it takes to balance your core business with outside interests, without letting performance slip. If you want your firm to grow beyond you, you’ve got to be willing to let go. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 02:37 – The Robot Dog Experiment: A Lesson in Responsibility 07:02 – Are AI Relationships Really That Far Off? 08:42 – How Involved Should a Law Firm Owner Be? 11:49 – What to Do When You’ve Lost Passion for the Business You Built 17:21 – The Real Cost of Split Focus and Chasing Too Many Interests 21:53 – Final Thoughts: You Can Have It All, But Not All at Once ---- Links & Resources: AIbo robot dog by Sony Gary Vaynerchuk Tim Cook ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 373. AMMA — Your Firm's Biggest Threat: Too Many Good Ideas 341. The Real Reason Your Firm Isn’t Scaling — And It’s Not What You Think 189. AMMA — How to Preserve Your Culture While Scaling Your Business…
1 374. You're Not Too Late: Joe Fried on Finding Purpose in Law [Encore Edition] 44:26
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if the biggest cases — and the biggest changes — come from choosing courage over comfort? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with nationally renowned trucking attorney Joe Fried , who shares how he transformed tragedy into purpose, built a hyper-specialized practice from scratch, and turned fear into fuel. From walking away from a thriving law practice overnight to redefining how truck accident cases are tried and taught, Joe opens up about what it means to truly bet on yourself — and why success without service is never enough. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why fear, not confidence, has been the driving force behind Joe’s success How to find your niche, stand out, and lead with substance What it takes to make your work a calling, not just a career This is your invitation to play bigger, dig deeper, and leave the profession better than you found it. ---- Show Notes: 02:27 – Introduction 04:21 – From Cop to Counselor: Joe Fried’s Origin Story 06:27 – Justice Isn’t Blind: Why the Courtroom Pulled Joe In 11:24 – The Mustang Fire Cases: Becoming a Reluctant Expert 12:42 – Starting Over: Why Joe Walked Away from a Thriving Practice 18:47 – The Phone Call That Changed Everything 21:32 – Building the Trucking Brand from the Ground Up 30:43 – Redefining Value: Why “Big Problems” Make Great Cases 42:37 – Teach, Give, Repeat: The Unexpected ROI of Mentorship ---- Links & Resources: Georgia Trial Lawyers Association Fried Goldberg Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys (ATAA) ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 311. Legal Leaders — The Blueprint for Legal Mastery: Build a Legacy, Dominate Your Niche 118. Litigating Legends: Lessons Learned from the Nation's Leading Trial Attorneys 134. Legal Leaders: Live from The Game Changers Summit…
1 373. AMMA — Your Firm's Biggest Threat: Too Many Good Ideas 24:18
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if your biggest leadership challenge isn’t deciding what to do, but when to do it? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill shares personal stories and answers listener questions about tough decisions, team feedback, and betting big on your vision. From a solo weekend with his kids to making high-stakes calls at work, Michael pulls back the curtain on how he thinks through pressure, risk, and long-term impact. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why speed and decisiveness are only advantages when paired with execution How to weigh input from others — and still make the final call yourself What it takes to scale sustainably without losing your mind You make the decision. Don’t let someone else make it for you. ---- Show Notes: 01:58 – Michael’s Core Memory Weekend with the Kids 06:24 – The CEO’s Dilemma: No Clear Right Answers 06:55 – Why Focus Beats Multiple Revenue Streams 10:53 – The Risk of Moving Too Fast — and Too Big 13:04 – Behind the Scenes of Crisp’s Busiest Year 14:18 – Why Execution Matters More Than Ideas 17:16 – Acquisition Anxiety: Growth vs. Culture Clash 21:03 – You Make the Decision — Not Your Team ---- Links & Resources: Die With Zero by Bill Perkins ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 349. AMMA. The Leadership Shift: Building a Firm That Doesn’t Depend on You 339. AMMA — The Growth Blueprint: What It Takes to Build a 7, 8, and 9-Figure Law Firm 258. AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth…
1 372. The Surprising ROI of Doing the Right Thing with Chaffin Luhana 29:41
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedBuilding a values-driven law firm isn’t just the right thing to do — it’s also a winning strategy. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , host Michael Mogill sits down with Eric Chaffin and Roopal Luhana of Chaffin Luhana to explore how they built one of the most respected firms in the country by leading with integrity, empathy, and purpose. Guided by the principle of “doing good by doing right,” they share how a deep commitment to clients and core values has fueled meaningful growth, sparked innovation, and shaped a standout culture in the legal industry. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why doing the right thing, even when it’s hard, delivers the greatest long-term ROI How to build a values-driven culture that attracts the right people and clients What it takes to stay resilient when the stakes are high and the outcomes are uncertain Don’t miss this conversation if you want to build a firm that wins with purpose, scales with heart, and never loses sight of what matters most. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: How Eric and Roopal built Chaffin Luhana 01:40 – Defining “doing good by doing right” and what it looks like in action 05:00 – Why authenticity is rare — and essential — in legal marketing 06:15 – The most important KPI: Client gratitude 08:15 – How values shape hiring, culture, and internal growth 12:15 – Implementing structure: Traction, processes, and leadership clarity 15:00 – Lessons from loss: Staying true to your principles when it’s hard 18:20 – Navigating emotional investment and long litigation cycles 21:30 – Driving systemic change through impact litigation 25:45 – Final thoughts: Being a game changer through innovation and heart ---- Links & Resources: Chaffin Luhana LLP Six Sigma Incorporating Traction ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 355. How Two Lawyers Took on Legal Giants and Won with Spetsas Buist 361. The Hidden Blueprint for Creating a Thriving Work Culture with Josh Nelson 357. The Strategy That Skyrocketed Her Law Firm's Growth with Sofia K. Miguel…
1 371. What Every Leader Can Learn From Netflix’s Early Chaos with Patty McCord [Encore Edition] 35:58
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if the best way to build a high-performing team wasn’t through perks or policies, but by telling people the truth? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , HR consultant, speaker, author, and former Netflix Chief Talent Officer Patty McCord joins Michael Mogill to challenge conventional HR thinking and offer a candid take on what truly drives culture, leadership, and high performance. With decades of experience shaping iconic teams in Silicon Valley, Patty unpacks how honesty, accountability, and experimentation can redefine what it means to build a workplace people are proud to be from, not just at. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why retention is the wrong metric for building great teams — and what matters instead How “telling the truth up front” can eliminate legal issues, improve culture, and drive results What it takes to create a company where high performers thrive and mediocrity doesn’t survive If you’re ready to ditch outdated practices, build a team of adults who own their impact, and lead with context instead of control, this episode is your blueprint. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Patty’s Unconventional Path into HR 05:06 – The Call That Changed Everything: Joining Netflix at 2 AM 06:40 – Reinventing Work: Cutting What Doesn’t Matter 08:06 – Creating a Great Place to Be From 12:00 – Building High-Performance Teams with Radical Clarity 17:18 – Problem Solvers vs. Problem Finders 20:14 – Giving Feedback That Drives Growth 27:11 – Metrics That Matter: P&L Over Perks 34:12 – Preparing for the Future: Do You Have the Right Team? 37:04 – Stop Empowering: Teach How the Business Works 38:29 – The Future of Work Is Now 40:15 – Redefining Leadership Through Context 41:22 – Final Thoughts: Stop Doing Stupid Stuff ---- Links & Resources: Powerful: Building a Culture of Freedom and Responsibility by Patty McCord How Netflix Reinvented HR, HBR Article by Patty McCord Netflix Culture Deck “Google Ideological Echo Chamber” memo by James Damore ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 352 — Susan Fowler — Why Everything You Know About Motivating Your Team Might Be Completely Wrong 328 — Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Transform Your Business with Bold, People-First Leadership…
1 370. Why Playing It Safe Is Killing Your Growth with Verne Harnish 39:52
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if the real risk isn't taking bold action — but staying exactly where you are? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, author, founder of Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO), and Founder & CEO of Scaling Up, Verne Harnish shares timeless insights on scaling a business, developing high-performing teams, and why most leaders fall short when they lose their edge. From navigating uncertainty to rediscovering founder-mode, Verne challenges the safe, conventional wisdom that holds organizations back — and offers a blueprint for playing bigger, leading smarter, and building companies that endure. Here's what you'll learn: Why aggressive goals create more energy — and why incrementalism kills momentum What it means to rediscover your company's "soul" — and how to lead from founder-mode How to replace weak managers with true team captains who drive performance If you're playing not to lose, you're already falling behind — this episode is your call to play to win. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 - Introduction 06:00 - Betting on Yourself: The Sacrifices and Mindset of Entrepreneurs 09:19 - Thriving in Chaos: Why Optimism and Timing Matter 14:00 - The Power of Big, Audacious Goals (and Why Small Thinking Fails) 16:42 - Why Most Companies Plateau: The Mindset and Market Gap 20:41 - Rediscovering Founder Mode and the Soul of Your Business 26:46 - Building Teams That Don't Need Managers 31:15 - How AI Will Redefine Growth, Strategy, and Hiring 36:40 - Redefining Success: The Five F's That Really Matter ---- Links & Resources: Scaling Up by Verne Harnish Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO) Mastering the Rockefeller Habits by Verne Harnish Founder Mode by Paul Graham The Captain Class by Sam Walker ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 243. AMMA — Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey 338. Will Ahmed — From Stress to Success: Optimizing the Entrepreneurial Journey 196. AMMA — The 9 Sources of Entrepreneurial Advantage…
1 369. Your Ego Is Making You Miserable with Cy Wakeman [Encore Edition] 59:12
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if your suffering isn't coming from your circumstances, but from your stories? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, workplace drama expert, leadership consultant, and best-selling author Cy Wakeman unpacks the inner chaos that holds high performers back. Through personal stories and hard-won lessons, she reveals how the ego fuels self-imposed suffering, how gratitude can evolve your perspective, and why true leadership begins with self-reflection. Alongside Jessica Mogill, Cy shares the practices and mindset shifts that can help you stop resisting reality and start showing up with clarity, calm, and compassion. Here's what you'll learn: Why most suffering is self-inflicted — and how your ego is the culprit How to use three simple questions to break free from stress and overwhelm What it takes to live a life you don't need a vacation from Your peace begins where your ego ends — and this episode shows you the way. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 01:56 – Writing Through the Chaos: How the Pandemic Shaped Cy's New Book 02:08 – Self-Imposed Suffering: How Ego Hijacks the Present Moment 06:04 – Reclaiming Perspective: The Three Questions That Set You Free 10:06 – Gratitude Reimagined: Counting Everything as a Blessing 23:05 – Stop Naming Things Too Soon: Embracing Curiosity Over Control 25:07 – The Power of “And”: Rejecting Either/Or Thinking 29:41 – Overgiving, Boundaries, and the Illusion of Control 32:42 – Self-Soothing vs. Self-Care: The Difference That Changes Everything ---- Links & Resources: Reality-Based Rules of the Workplace and Life's Messy, Live Happy by Cy Wakeman Ted x Talk: “Ditch the Drama” by Cy Wakeman ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 110. Leading Ladies: Four Leaders in Business 132. Summit Spectacular: Part 1 214. Dream Team: How to Hire & Keep High-Performing Talent…
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1 368. Why Your SEO Sucks and What to Do About It with Chris Dreyer 50:49
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if your biggest competitive edge isn’t the channel you choose — but how hard you’re willing to commit? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , serial entrepreneur, best-selling author, and the Founder of Rankings.io Chris Dreyer returns to break down what law firms are getting wrong about SEO, how AI is changing the digital playing field, and why consistency, community, and competition are more essential than ever. From dominating local markets to navigating Google’s evolving algorithms, Chris shares the no-BS truths that separate real results from wasted spend. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why “if you don’t commit” to SEO and review strategies, “it’s like an uphill battle” How to earn Google’s trust through “real-world relationships” and local relevance What it means to “never settle, always compete” — even after you hit your goals If you’re ready to obsess over the things your competitors are overlooking, this episode will show you how to turn strategy into dominance. ---- Show Notes: 01:54 – Introduction02:22 – What Law Firms Get Wrong About SEO06:01 – AI’s Impact on Search and Relevance12:39 – The Truth About AI-Generated Content15:40 – Advice for New Law Firms Entering SEO18:09 – Why Traditional Media Still Dominates22:17 – The Optimal Marketing Mix for Law Firms27:15 – Building Brand Affinity Through Grassroots Marketing32:48 – Proudest Moments and Hardest Lessons ---- Links & Resources: Rankings.io Niching Up Personal Injury and Lawyer Marketing: From Good to GOAT Inside Tracker Giftology PIMCon (Personal Injury Lawyers Marketing & Management Conference) Profits First Cambridge Analytica Scandal ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 169. Chris Dreyer — Unlocking Leverage: Strategically Scaling Your Impact 345. AMMA. The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 358. Your Competitors Don't Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies…
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1 367. AMMA — Market Domination Starts With the One Thing Most Lawyers Avoid 16:04
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if trying to help everyone is the very thing keeping your law firm from growing? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael and Jessica Mogill challenge the myth that more is better — more practice areas, more clients, more complexity. Instead, they reveal why clarity, consistency, and restraint are the real drivers of sustainable growth. From the $10M rule to the art of saying “no,” this episode is a practical blueprint for law firm owners ready to scale without spreading themselves — or their teams — too thin. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why the best cases go to the best marketers What the $10M rule means for your expansion plans Why generalists struggle to grow — and how specialists win The real impact of saying “no” to misaligned clients How focus helps you build authority and trust If you’re ready to scale your firm without losing focus, this episode will challenge you to lead with clarity, say no with confidence, and grow where it matters most. ---- Show Notes: 00:01 – Introduction 03:28 – Should I Niche Down to Compete With a Younger Attorney? 07:23 – Should I Expand Into New Practice Areas to Grow? 12:00 – How Do I Say No to Longtime Clients? 14:09 – The Power of Saying No to Stay Focused 15:30 – Why Boundaries Are a Sign of Growth 16:10 – Saying Yes Means Saying No to Something Else 16:14 – Final Thoughts: You Have the Power to Choose ---- Links & Resources: Turf Grass Phone Case ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 199. Jesse Cole — Change the Game, Break the Rules, and Create an Unforgettable Experience 258. AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth 333. AMMA — Win More High-Value Cases: How to Build a Brand Clients Trust…
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1 366. How to Transform Your Business with Military Precision and Strategy with John Berry 50:10
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if your greatest leadership challenge isn’t your team — it’s you? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , decorated U.S. Army veteran and CEO of Berry Law, John Berry returns to share the tough lessons, tactical systems, and mindset shifts that have shaped his evolution as a leader. From military missions to managing a fast-growing law firm, John opens up about what it really takes to earn trust, retain A-players, and lead with conviction — even when the pressure is on. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why discipline, restraint, and reflection are essential to long-term leadership How to recruit and retain top talent by scaling culture from the inside out What it takes to become the kind of leader people choose to follow If you’re ready to look in the mirror and lead at a higher level, this episode will show you how real change starts from within. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: From Combat to Courtroom 02:18 – Why Most Leaders Get Leadership Wrong 05:42 – The Hard Lessons of Hiring and Building the Right Culture 10:04 – Leadership Under Pressure: Lessons from the Battlefield 17:09 – The Cost of Conflict Avoidance and the Power of Feedback 26:43 – Operation Spear Tip: Scalable Hiring Through Referrals 33:06 – When to Coach, Confront, or Cut Loose 42:18 – Simplifying Practice Areas to Scale with Focus 56:03 – Final Thoughts: Change Yourself to Change the Game ---- Links & Resources: Berry Law Veteran Led by John Berry Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink & Leif Babin The Dichotomy of Leadership by Jocko Willink & Leif Babin ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 255. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 303. Eric Thomas — Turning Struggles into Strength: A Blueprint for Resilience 331. AMMA — Failure to Reflect is Failure to Grow: The Brutal Truth About Staying Stuck…
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1 365. AMMA — Entitlement Is Killing Your Business and Here's Why 20:16
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if the reason your clients, team, or peers don’t recognize your value… is because you never showed them? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill breaks down the unseen habits, small slips, and silent wins that separate those who sustain excellence from those who quietly fall behind. From holding the line on standards to making your effort visible, this episode is a tactical reminder that the little things are never little — and that complacency has a price. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why discipline erodes in the details — and how to hold the line How to make your unseen efforts visible to your team and clients What it really takes to prevent success from turning into stagnation Want to stay at the top? This episode is your reminder to act like it — every single day. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:48 – Teaching Entrepreneurial Lessons to the Next Generation 08:07 – The Bracelet Business: Fulfillment, Hustle, and Gratitude 09:38 – Combating Entitlement by Sharing the Real Journey 13:16 – Why Gratitude, Not Resentment, Builds a Great Culture 15:00 – Are You Paranoid or Just Paying Attention? 17:05 – The Slippery Slope of Letting Standards Slip 18:10 – Making the Invisible Visible: How to Show Your Work 22:36 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atomic Habits by James Clear David Goggins Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins Cameron Hanes The Score Takes Care of Itself by Bill Walsh ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 320. John Morgan — Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality 278. Adam Alter — From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Maintaining Momentum 217. AMMA — The Key to Clarity in Business…
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1 364. How to Train Your Brain for Unbelievable Success 1:00:59
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAs we conclude celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , this Elite Athletes edition showcases the world-class performers who have redefined limits — mentally, physically, and professionally. These are the voices of champions who’ve trained in darkness, fought through failure, and built the mindset required to dominate on the world stage. In this episode, we go beyond trophies and titles to uncover the discipline, resilience, and psychological mastery that separates the best from everyone else. Whether it’s breaking world records, surviving in isolation, or pushing through unimaginable pain, these athletes offer a window into what’s possible when greatness becomes non-negotiable. This episode features: Mark Beaumont : On why risk, adventure, and clarity of purpose matter more than comfort or certainty. Colin O’Brady : On challenging the impossible — and growing through adversity, whether or not you succeed. David Goggins : On building belief by choosing suffering, and how pain can become your greatest teacher. Mat Fraser : On the compounding power of consistent habits — and how world champions optimize everything. Tim Grover : On letting go of civility, mastering your dark side, and doing what winning demands. If you want to understand what true grit, mental toughness, and elite-level focus really look like, this episode is your blueprint. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Unlocking Peak Performance with Elite Athletes 02:05 – Mark Beaumont: Around the World in 194 Days 07:14 – The Power of Planning, Pain, and Perspective 11:21 – Colin O’Brady: Why “The Impossible First” Mattered 17:24 – From Burn Victim to Triathlon Champion 26:05 – Crossing Antarctica Alone: Breaking Mental and Physical Limits 29:06 – David Goggins: Creating an Alter Ego to Withstand the Unthinkable 41:46 – Mat Fraser: Building 1% Gains into Unstoppable Momentum 54:10 – Tim Grover: Winning Is Uncivilized — And That’s the Point ---- Links & Resources: Mark Beaumont Colin O’Brady David Goggins Mat Fraser Tim Grover The Impossible First by Colin O’Brady Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins Never Finished by David Goggins Relentless by Tim Grover Winning by Tim Grover ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 358. Your Competitors Don’t Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies 356. Warning: These Industry Titans’ Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 360. The Hidden Formula for Unstoppable Motivation and Achievement…
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1 363. AMMA — How to Master Decision-Making Like a Pro 27:10
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat separates elite leaders from those who never break through? It’s not motivation or even talent — it’s the discipline to stay focused, make decisions when it’s uncomfortable, and build habits that align with who you want to become. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill tackles questions from law firm owners about decision-making, long-term planning, and how to maintain consistent performance when things get chaotic. You’ll learn how to shift your mindset from reacting to leading, and how to engineer habits and environments that make success inevitable. Here’s what you’ll learn: What it takes to stay disciplined when motivation fails How elite leaders create leverage through “Future Time” Why identity — not willpower — is the key to lasting habits If you're ready to lead your firm at a higher level, this episode will show you how to build the internal foundation that drives consistent external results. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Gadgets, Cold Plunges & Energy Boosts 06:24 – Why This Podcast Has No Sponsors (and Why That Matters) 08:03 – Navigating Hard Decisions: Choose, Own, and Move Forward 13:49 – Future Time: The Most Important Meeting You’ll Ever Take 17:06 – Strategic Thinking: Identifying the One Problem That Unlocks Growth 18:40 – Habit Stacking for Busy Law Firm Owners 21:18 – Designing an Environment That Makes Good Habits Easy 24:16 – From Cold Plunges to Consistency: The Power of Identity 28:11 – Final Thoughts: Lead Like the CEO You Want to Become ---- Links & Resources: Streaks App Atomic Habits by James Clear Savannah Bananas Tony Robbins Tim Cook Rory McIlroy ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 291 — Tim Grover — The Dark Side of Achievement Episode 229 — David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within Episode 258 — AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth…
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1 362. The Secret Weapons for Outpacing Your Competition 53:25
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAs we celebrate five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , this Business Titans edition honors the visionary leaders who’ve built powerhouse brands, navigated high-stakes decisions, and proven that excellence, adaptability, and bold thinking aren’t just values — they’re strategies. In this episode, we spotlight the builders: entrepreneurs and executives who scaled with purpose, led through adversity, and never settled for average. From world-class customer service and employee empowerment to the raw realities of risk, reinvention, and rapid growth, their insights are a masterclass in what it takes to lead at the highest level. This episode features: Horst Schulze : On why excellence is a non-negotiable standard, and how empowering employees drives loyalty and brand equity. Marcus Lemonis : On the power of owning your mistakes, building on people-process-product, and leading with transparency. Alex Hormozi : On why pain is a more powerful motivator than passion — and how humility and long-term thinking shape real success. Joey Coleman : On transforming employees into advocates by designing every phase of their journey with intention and care. Kara Goldin : On recovering from failure, staying scrappy, and building a brand by staying relentlessly curious and open to reinvention. If you're building a business that aims to stand the test of time, this episode is packed with hard-earned wisdom, leadership strategy, and the relentless mindset it takes to succeed. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Celebrating 5 Years with Visionary Business Titans 02:17 – Horst Schulze: Why Excellence Is a Decision (Not a Perk) 05:50 – The $2,000 Rule: Empowering Employees to Create Loyalty 11:08 – Marcus Lemonis: The 3 P’s of Business (People, Process, Product) 17:30 – Why Accountability & Mistake Ownership Drive Sustainable Growth 23:31 – Alex Hormozi: Using Pain as Fuel & Reframing Entrepreneurial Mindset 31:47 – Time as a Founder’s Most Valuable Asset 40:01 – Joey Coleman: Creating Remarkable Employee Experiences 48:46 – Kara Goldin: Navigating Setbacks, Brand Building & Thinking Differently ---- Links & Resources: Horst Schulze Marcus Lemonis Alex Hormozi $100M Offers: How To Make Offers So Good People Feel Stupid Saying No $100M Leads: How to Get Strangers To Want To Buy Your Stuff Joey Coleman Never Lose a Customer Again: Turn Any Sale into Lifelong Loyalty in 100 Days Never Lose an Employee Again: The Simple Path to Remarkable Retention Kara Goldin Undaunted: Overcoming Doubts and Doubters ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 358. Your Competitors Don’t Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies 356. Warning: These Industry Titans’ Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 360. The Hidden Formula for Unstoppable Motivation and Achievement…
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1 361. The Hidden Blueprint for Creating a Thriving Work Culture with Josh Nelson 42:31
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if building a thriving law firm wasn’t about holding on tighter — but about letting go of control, trusting your team, and scaling with purpose? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with Josh Nelson , founder of Nelson Elder Care Law and recipient of the 2024 SELECT Firm of the Year award. From his early days grinding to his first million, to leading a 40+ person team and managing growth through intentional hiring and leadership, Josh’s journey offers a blueprint for building a firm that grows beyond the founder. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why empowering your team — not doing it all yourself — is the key to scaling impact What it takes to evolve your systems, strategy, and mindset to support long-term growth How personal passions can fuel purpose — and turn success into service Tune in as he shares the honest story behind his firm’s evolution — from ego-driven decisions to visionary leadership. Whether you’re building your team, restructuring your systems, or finding renewed motivation in the mission, this conversation is packed with high-growth insights, personal turning points, and the mindset shifts that define true leadership. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 07:56 – From Racing to Elder Law: Josh’s Unconventional Path 17:14 – Breaking Production: Early Growth and System Failures 21:26 – Building a Scalable Firm Without Burning Out 26:09 – Evolving the Hiring Funnel & Creating a Culture of Accountability 31:07 – The Power of Bench Strength and Non-Attorney Salespeople 35:36 – Marketing to Your Team: Driving Mission-Driven Culture 39:08 – Leveraging AI as a Multiplier, Not a Replacement 44:38 – Racing, Legacy, and Why Impact Beats Income ---- Links & Resources: Nelson Elder Care Law Kolbe ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 259. David Craig — How to Build a Law Firm That Stands the Test of Time 246. AMMA — From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Key Differences Between Winners and Losers…
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1 360. The Hidden Formula for Unstoppable Motivation and Achievement 1:00:34
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAs we continue celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , this next installment in our special retrospective series highlights the thought leaders who challenge conventional thinking, reframe limitations, and expand what's possible — both personally and professionally. In this Mindset Expanders edition, we feature experts who have helped millions push beyond mental roadblocks, build better habits, and unlock sustainable performance. From behavior change and self-control to high achievement and peak flow states, these conversations will reshape the way you think about growth — and give you the tools to pursue it with purpose. This episode features: Katy Milkman : On how to overcome present bias, build habits that last, and make positive behavior change more enjoyable. Ayelet Fishbach : On mastering self-control by designing smarter environments and identifying competing goals. Adam Alter : On reframing failure, embracing challenge, and why discomfort is the key to long-term meaning. Eric Thomas : On why effort matters more than talent — and how understanding motivation can unlock your team’s full potential. Steven Kotler : On how fear, focus, and flow states can be leveraged to achieve peak performance in any field. If you’re ready to think bigger, act bolder, and lead with clarity, these mindset-shifting conversations will show you how to break through to your next level. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: What Would It Look Like to Give 120%? 02:12 – Katie Milkman: Overcoming Present Bias and Building Better Habits 10:46 – Ayelet Fishbach: Self-Control, Multiple Goals, and Advice Giving 19:33 – Adam Alter: Turning Failure into a Superpower 27:40 – Beginner’s Mind: Why Staying Curious Leads to Growth 35:08 – Eric Thomas: When You Want to Succeed as Bad as You Want to Breathe 42:30 – Motivating Your Team by Speaking Their Language 48:57 – The Inability to Self-Assess: Why Leaders Get in Their Own Way 53:19 – Steven Kotler: How Peak Performers Use Flow and Fear to Their Advantage ---- Links & Resources: Katy Milkman Ayelet Fishbach Adam Alter Eric Thomas Steven Kotler Mary Poppins Tony Robbins Les Brown Steve Jobs Wharton School of Business University of Chicago Booth School of Business NYU Stern School of Business Michigan State University NFL Flow Research Collective ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 358. Your Competitors Don’t Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies 356. Warning: These Industry Titans’ Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 219. AMMA — A Deeper Look at Leadership…
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1 359. AMMA — The Ultimate Guide to Retaining Top Talent 20:56
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill takes on some of the toughest challenges law firm owners face today — hiring with confidence, retaining great talent, and knowing when to invest in people versus when to walk away. From evaluating high-salary candidates to navigating internal disagreements over ambitious hires, this episode offers real-world guidance for leaders who want to build teams that last. Here’s what you’ll learn: How to evaluate whether you're paying for potential or proven performance Why a candidate asking about growth isn’t a red flag — it’s a sign of ambition How to create a culture of development that retains your best people If you’ve ever struggled with whether to bet on potential or proven experience — or feared the long-term cost of developing talent that might leave — this conversation is for you. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: New Studio, New Format 01:23 – The 3 Types of Decision-Makers: Doubters, Delayers, and Deciders 06:27 – Hiring Dilemma: Pay for Potential or Proven Experience? 10:36 – Time vs. Money: The Real Cost of Training New Talent 11:05 – Navigating Offers: Is Asking About Growth a Red Flag? 13:13 – Choosing the Right Hire: Heart, Intent, and Fit 14:26 – Poaching Problems: When You’re the “Training Ground” Firm 16:06 – Why You Should Still Invest in People (Even if They Leave) 18:11 – Creating Career Paths That Inspire Long-Term Loyalty ---- Links & Resources: Patrick Mahomes Atlanta Falcons ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 278. Adam Alter — From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Keeping Momentum 245. Sheila Heen — How to Master Difficult Conversations 219. AMMA — A Deeper Look at Leadership…
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1 358. Your Competitors Don't Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies 58:59
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAs we continue celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , this second installment in our special retrospective series highlights the marketing minds who have shaped industries, built iconic brands, and mastered the art of standing out. In this Marketing Masters edition, we spotlight leaders who have transformed the way we think about positioning, personal branding, relationship building, and sustainable growth. Their insights reveal that true marketing mastery isn’t about chasing trends — it's about clarity, connection, and a relentless focus on serving the right audience with excellence. This episode features: Seth Godin : On why marketing success starts with focusing up, choosing the smallest viable audience, and resisting the temptation to be average. Rory Vaden : On building a powerful personal brand rooted in trust, and why your reputation is the foundation of lasting opportunity. Pat Flynn : On creating superfans through quality, authenticity, and meaningful relationship-building. John Ruhlin : On leveraging thoughtful generosity to deepen client loyalty, drive referrals, and accelerate business growth. Conrad Saam and Gyi Tsakalakis : On why marketing without a strategy leads to wasted effort — and how consistent execution wins over time. Across every conversation, one theme is clear: the most successful marketers aren't the ones who follow the crowd. They're the ones who lead with purpose, serve with authenticity, and build brands that endure. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Lessons from Marketing Legends 03:11 – Seth Godin: Focus Up and Find Your Smallest Viable Audience 13:43 – Rory Vaden: Why Reputation Precedes Revenue 22:49 – Building a Personal Brand That Drives Business Growth 28:33 – Pat Flynn: Creating Superfans Through Quality and Connection 37:28 – Small Town Rules: Building Loyalty in a Digital World 44:36 – John Ruhlin: Strategic Gifting to Deepen Relationships 53:25 – Conrad Saam & Guy Sakalakis: Strategy vs. Tactics in Legal Marketing 01:07:15 – Final Takeaways: Building a Brand That Lasts ---- Links & Resources: Seth Godin Rory Vaden Pat Flynn John Ruhlin Conrad Saam Gyi Tsakalakis ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 356. Warning: These Industry Titans’ Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership…
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1 357. The Strategy That Skyrocketed Her Law Firm's Growth with Sofia K. Miguel 25:14
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIn this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill interviews Sofia K. Miguel , the 2024 ELITE Firm of the Year winner. Sofia shares her journey from the Army Reserve to leading a successful personal injury firm, offering practical insights into the challenges and successes of running a law practice. You will learn: How to embrace marketing to enhance visibility and success in a competitive landscape How personal growth builds resilience , vital for leading a successful firm And how a high-performing team and top-tier client experience differentiate your firm Ready to transform your firm's future with proven growth and leadership strategies? Tune in to hear Sofia's impactful journey and discover how you can apply these lessons to your own practice. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: From Army Reserve to Elite Firm of the Year 03:24 – Why Sofia Chose Law: Autonomy, Self-Reliance, and Fulfillment 09:19 – Building the Firm From Scratch: Early Challenges and Vision 14:10 – Standing Out in a Competitive Market as a Woman-Owned Firm 18:47 – From Solo to Team: The Shift to Scaling and Hiring Attorneys 24:36 – Establishing Culture: High Standards and Collaborative Growth 32:55 – Making Unpopular Decisions for Long-Term Success 39:40 – Personal Growth, Professional Evolution, and Resilience 48:18 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Sofia Miguel ---- Links & Resources: Sofia K. Miguel Kolbe Index ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 346. James Amaro — Why Losing Everything Was the Best Thing That Happened 251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership…
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1 356. Warning: These Industry Titans’ Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 58:36
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWelcome to a special edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , celebrating five years of game changing conversations, industry-shaping insights, and bold leadership in the legal world. To mark this milestone, we’re kicking off a retrospective series that dives into the minds of the most forward-thinking, trailblazing leaders we've featured over the years. In this episode, we’re taking a look back to highlight the strategies and decisions that helped our top guests carve their own paths to success. There’s no single way to build a thriving law firm — but the stories you’ll hear are proof that with the right mindset, consistent execution, and belief in your vision, success is within reach. You’ll hear from: Eric Chaffin: Co-founder of Chaffin Luhana, a nationally recognized law firm. Known for his work as a federal prosecutor and his dedication to using his experiences to motivate and help others through his legal practice. Rex Elliott: A prominent attorney at Cooper Elliott, a firm known for representing the underdog and making significant impacts in trial law. His journey is fueled by connecting his past experiences to achieve success and aid others. Randi McGinn: An accomplished trial lawyer, recognized for her approach to "transformative law," where the focus is on making impactful changes beyond just monetary settlements in cases. Laura Wasser: A top divorce attorney in the country, known for her discretion and ability to handle high-profile celebrity divorce cases with a focus on realistic expectations and professionalism. Ben Crump: A nationally renowned civil rights attorney, often involved in high-profile cases that address systemic injustices, inspired by Thurgood Marshall and motivated by advocating for equal opportunities and justice. Whether you're an attorney seasoned in the courtroom or a burgeoning leader in the industry, you'll find valuable perspectives and actionable insights to fuel your own success story. Join us as we uncover the diverse strategies and mindsets that propel legal visionaries to redefine what it means to lead, inspire, and succeed. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: 5 Years of Legal Game Changers 02:05 – Eric Chaffin: Overcoming Trauma and Building a Mission-Driven Firm 10:44 – Doing Good by Doing Right: Building Chaffin Luhana on Values 15:45 – Rex Elliott: From Construction Sites to Courtrooms 21:42 – Fighting for Underdogs and Finding Purpose in Trial Work 27:58 – Randi McGinn: Pioneering Transformative Law with Every Case 35:36 – Laura Wasser: Navigating High-Profile Divorce with Discretion and Integrity 43:59 – Balancing Emotional Support and Legal Strategy in Celebrity Cases 50:27 – Ben Crump: Finding Hope and Justice Through Legacy and Law ---- Links & Resources: Randi McGinn Rex Elliott Eric Chaffin Ben Crump Laura Wasser ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 328. Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Transform Your Business with Bold, People-First Leadership 251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership…
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1 355. How Two Lawyers Took on Legal Giants and Won with Spetsas Buist 46:02
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if launching your law firm amidst competition isn't about having it all figured out, but about taking the plunge with unwavering determination and adaptability? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , host Michael Mogill sits down with Charles Buist and Nicholas Spetsas , the formidable duo behind a rapidly growing law firm in Orlando. Join us as we delve into their inspiring journey from shared dreams in a cramped one-bedroom apartment to the strategic decisions that helped them navigate the challenges of launching a firm from scratch. Here’s what you’ll learn: How taking strategic risks early in your career can pave the way for future success The critical role of a client-centric approach in differentiating a law firm, ensuring lasting relationships and trust by prioritizing client needs and maintaining excellent service The impact of leveraging advanced technology and personalized leadership strategies, like AI, Kolbe, and PRINT assessments, to foster team growth and enhance operational efficiency in a thriving law firm Tune in as they unpack their evolution from law school allies to entrepreneurial partners, revealing the bold bets, unrelenting commitment, and client-first mindset that drove their explosive growth from day one. With an emphasis on emotional connection, tech-forward operations, and agile leadership, Charles and Nick’s story is packed with battle-tested strategies and hard-earned insights for any law firm looking to stand out — and win — in today’s hyper-competitive market. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – From Law School Roommates to Law Firm Founders 06:19 – Building the Firm During Uncertainty and Sleepless Nights 11:45 – The Turning Point: A Case That Changed Everything 14:31 – Competing in One of the Nation’s Toughest Legal Markets 18:34 – Team Composition, Growth Strategy, and Embracing AI 23:37 – Leadership Lessons: Individual Focus and Effective Communication 27:55 – Defining Firm Culture: Excellence, Empathy & Evolution 42:08 – Personal Growth, Client Experience & What’s Next ---- Links & Resources: Charles Buist Nicholas Spetsas Mark Cuban Lior Weinstein Chris Voss The Bachelorette ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 259. David Craig — How to Build a Law Firm That Stands the Test of Time 246. AMMA — From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Key Differences Between Winners and Losers…
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1 354. Why Most Lawyers Are Miserable — And How to Break Free with Ben Glass [Encore Edition] 52:19
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAre you questioning the traditional trajectory of the legal profession and craving a game plan to grow your firm and live a more fulfilling life? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with powerhouse plaintiffs attorney Ben Glass — founder of Ben Glass Law, best-selling author, and the visionary behind Great Legal Marketing. You’ll hear how Ben redefined success on his own terms — from growing up as the oldest of seven to launching a movement that’s transforming how attorneys lead their firms and their lives. Here’s what you’ll learn: Discover how to align your law firm with your personal values to drive greater fulfillment, enhance team cohesion, and deliver a client experience that creates lasting loyalty Understand the critical mindset shifts that empower firm owners to break free from guilt, expand their capacity for growth, and actively seek ways to continue to learn Implement bold, practical marketing strategies that cut through the noise while simultaneously cultivating a high-performing culture where your team is inspired, aligned, and driven to win Tune in as Ben shares the mindset shifts that shaped his path, the impact of athletics on building resilience, and why he's on a mission to help lawyers stop settling and start living. If you're ready to challenge the status quo and build a firm that reflects your purpose and potential, this episode delivers the clarity and strategy you’ve been looking for. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:15 – From Soccer Fields to Courtrooms: Ben’s Journey into Law 08:42 – What Playing Left Fullback Taught Ben About Business 11:52 – Living Life Big: Designing a Practice Around What Matters 16:48 – Why Lawyer Wellness Starts with Choosing a Better Default 20:16 – The Mindset Shifts That Unlock Entrepreneurial Freedom 26:38 – Standing Out with Grassroots Marketing (and Answering the Phone) 29:43 – Building a Team That Stays, Grows, and Recruits for You 39:13 – The Secret Power of Podcasting and Repurposing Content ---- Links & Resources: BenGlassLaw Crisp The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill TikTok ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 249. Codie Sanchez — Maximizing Income: Strategies for Achieving Financial Freedom 287. Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation 210. AMMA — Failure Isn’t Final: Lessons Learned From Setbacks and Struggles…
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1 353. How He Trained His Mind to Never Quit — Using Something You’d Never Guess with James Lawrence 1:00:45
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat does it really take to shatter the boundaries of human endurance? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down once again with James Lawrence — the unstoppable force better known as the Iron Cowboy. Renowned for doing what most would call impossible, James made headlines by completing 50 Ironmans in 50 days across all 50 states and then pushed the bar even higher with his legendary Conquer 100 challenge. Here’s what you’ll learn: How to build unshakable systems that eliminate decision fatigue — so discipline becomes automatic and success becomes your default Why doing the hard, uncomfortable things you’d rather avoid is the fastest way to build mental toughness and bulletproof yourself against adversity How to turn personal wins into powerful mentorship — transforming your achievements into growth engines for your team and fulfillment for you James is more than an elite endurance athlete — he’s a master of mental grit and discipline. As the Iron Cowboy, he’s not just defying limits; he’s redefining what’s possible through sheer resilience and an unbreakable mindset. Be sure to check out James Lawrence’s powerful new book, Iron Hope — a raw, inspiring look into the mindset, struggles, and triumphs behind his most audacious challenges and a blueprint for pushing past your own perceived limits. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 02:29 – You Don’t Need to Be Special — Just Relentless 08:41 – Iron Hope: How to Reignite Purpose Through Action 10:39 – Defining Mental Toughness & Building It Through Discomfort 15:13 – Winning the Internal Conversation: Systems Over Feelings 21:18 – Cold Plunges, Confidence, and Stacking Daily Wins 26:34 – Discipline Is a System, Not a Personality Trait 29:33 – Why Mastering the Mundane Creates Champions 44:10 – Post-Victory Void: What Happens After the Goal Is Reached ---- Links & Resources: James Lawrence Iron Cowboy by James Lawrence Iron Hope by James Lawrence Atomic Habits by James Clear Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 255. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 303. Eric Thomas — Turning Struggles into Strength: A Blueprint for Resilience 331. AMMA — Failure to Reflect is Failure to Grow: The Brutal Truth About Staying Stuck…
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1 352. Why Everything You Know About Motivating Your Team Might Be Completely Wrong with Susan Fowler [Encore Edition] 52:48
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedCould your firm be missing out on its true potential by relying on traditional motivation techniques? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with renowned motivation expert Susan Fowler to challenge the outdated paradigms of incentivization in the workplace. With insights drawn from her extensive research and real-world applications, Susan offers a fresh perspective on how law firm leaders can cultivate a genuinely motivating environment. Here’s what you’ll learn: The distinction between suboptimal and optimal motivation and how quality-focused motivation leads to more sustainable and fulfilling outcomes The importance of supporting employees’ psychological needs: choice, connection, and competence — and how these enhance employee engagement and reduce turnover in law firms The significance of aligning personal and organizational values to create a thriving work environment, enabling conscious growth and long-term success for both individuals and firms By unlocking the secrets behind psychological energy, Susan reveals how understanding the deeper layers of human motivation can lead to unprecedented growth, not just financially but also in terms of employee satisfaction and performance. Listen in to discover how you can transform your firm’s culture and drive meaningful change. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:22 – Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work (and What Does) 07:15 – Suboptimal vs. Optimal Motivation: The Six Types 12:40 – The Three Psychological Needs: Autonomy, Connection, and Competence 22:08 – Creating Autonomy Within Structure 26:47 – Building Genuine Connection at Work 34:02 – Encouraging Growth: Competence and Learning Cultures 43:30 – Why “What Motivates You?” Is the Wrong Question 58:16 – Final Thoughts and What Being a Game Changer Means ---- Links & Resources: Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does by Susan Fowler YouTube B.F. Skinner Operant Conditioning Master Your Motivation : Three Scientific Truths for Achieving Your Goals by Susan Fowler Self-determination theory Dr. Edward Deci Dr. Richard Ryan IBM Garry Ridge Dr. Jacques Forest Drea Zigarmi Mark Cuban Anne Brafford The Prevalence of Substance Use and Other Mental Health Concerns Among American Attorneys Binge Drinking by Occupation Groups among Currently Employed U.S. Adults 2022 Report on the State of the Legal Market: Despite a strong year, numerous & growing challenges confront law firms Institute For Well-Being In Law McKinsey & Company: Winning back your workers ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 334. Dr. Benjamin Hardy — From Limiting Beliefs to Limitless Potential: A Guide to Personal Growth 240. Jessica Mogill — Why Hiring A-Players is Important 189. AMMA — How to Preserve Your Culture While Scaling Your Business…
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1 351. AMMA. THIS Is Why the Best People Want Nothing to Do With Your Law Firm 34:10
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if your firm's greatest asset is slipping through your fingers, unnoticed? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill dives deep into the pressing issues law firm owners face as leaders and attorneys. From understanding the critical dynamics of attorney retention to bridging the ever-present generational gaps within the workplace, this episode offers actionable insights to help grow your firm effectively. Here’s what you’ll learn: How to identify the true reasons behind attorney departures and enhance their experience with effective feedback systems Strategies to unify your firm's culture across different generations, fostering continuous learning and effective mentorship How to manage feedback without hindering productivity, focusing on actionable insights that drive business growth As you navigate the challenges of attorney retention and workplace culture, these insights could be the key to unlocking your firm's potential. Don't let minor issues stand in the way of major progress — tune in and discover how to foster growth, unity, and a shared vision within your team. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:14 – Why Top Talent Really Leaves Your Firm 10:33 – Creating a Future Your Team Wants to Be Part Of 15:22 – Stay Interviews vs. Exit Interviews: Getting Real Feedback 19:18 – Bridging the Generational Gap in Firm Culture 26:30 – Avoiding Open Door Overload: When Feedback Goes Too Far 34:05 – Separating Signal from Noise: Feedback That Actually Matters 39:58 – A Culture of Ownership: Encouraging Problem Solvers 43:01 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Game Changers Summit ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 278. Adam Alter — From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Keeping Momentum 245. Sheila Heen — How to Master Difficult Conversations 219. AMMA — A Deeper Look at Leadership…
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1 350. 5 Years of Game Changers: You Won’t Believe What They Did to Win 51:29
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWelcome to a landmark episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast! Today marks five years. Five years of conversations that have challenged convention, inspired action, and elevated what’s possible in the legal industry. Over this journey, we’ve sat down with the boldest thinkers and most innovative leaders — the ones who aren’t just playing the game, but changing it. And to celebrate this milestone, we’re taking you back through some of the most powerful, perspective-shifting moments we’ve shared on this podcast. Here's what we'll rediscover: Jesse Cole's Revolutionary Approach: His fan-centric strategies with the Savannah Bananas that turned traditional baseball on its head Chris Voss's Negotiating Skills: The art of strategic control and curiosity in achieving successful outcomes John Morgan's Career Wisdom: Insights on navigating pivotal crossroads that define professional growth David Goggins's Relentless Drive: Exemplifying the power of pushing beyond limits and achieving the extraordinary Jan Dils's Bold Advertising Strategies: Daring tactics that challenged and transformed industry norms Thank you for being an essential part of this community. Your commitment to growth, innovation, and bold action is what makes this movement possible. Here’s to the next chapter — to raising the bar, breaking through, and unlocking even greater potential. Let’s dive in and revisit the defining moments that made these first five years unforgettable — and set the stage for what’s next. ---- 00:00 – Introduction: 5 Years of Game Changing Conversations 02:18 – John Morgan on Knowing Your Worth & Taking the Leap 10:42 – Building a Scalable Law Firm with Non-Lawyer Leadership 15:49 – Jan Dils and the Power of Bold Advertising 24:36 – Overcoming Backlash to Build a Brand 30:04 – Jesse Cole on Turning Baseball into Entertainment 36:22 – Creating “You Wouldn’t Believe” Fan Experiences 45:39 – David Goggins on Mental Toughness and Taking Souls 56:44 – Chris Voss: FBI Tactics for Better Negotiation ---- Links & Resources: Jesse Cole Chris Voss David Goggins Jan Dils ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 188. Liz Wiseman — Impact Players: How to Take the Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact 293. Elite Athletes — The Mental Edge: How Champions Overcome The Impossible 339. AMMA — The Growth Blueprint: What It Takes to Build a 7, 8, and 9-Figure Law Firm…
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1 349. AMMA. The Leadership Shift: Building a Firm That Doesn’t Depend on You 29:12
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedAre you struggling to let go of day-to-day tasks, even though you know it could propel your firm to new heights? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill breaks down the essential moves every attorney must make to go from operator to leader — and why your firm’s growth depends on it. You’ll uncover the exact strategies to get out of the weeds, elevate your brand, and drive insane levels of trust, performance, and profitability. Here’s what you’ll learn: The importance of identifying and delegating tasks outside your unique skill set to focus on high-impact activities that drive your firm's scalability How to leverage your personal brand to cultivate a firm-wide standard of excellence, ensuring clients' trust beyond your direct involvement Strategies for stepping back from individual case management to embrace a leadership role that helps elevate your law firm and build a robust practice Whether you’re a solo practitioner or running a fast-growing team, this episode delivers real talk and real strategy to help you define success on your terms — and build the law firm of the future. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 02:24 – Letting Go: Why Control Limits Growth 06:42 – When Is the Right Time to Step Back? 13:05 – Transitioning from Personal Brand to Firm Brand 18:53 – Building a Reputation Beyond Yourself 23:50 – Shifting Responsibilities: Highest & Best Use of Time 28:36 – Playing to Your Strengths (and Hiring to Cover the Rest) 34:22 – The Value of Operational Leadership: Hiring Your Game Changer 40:11 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: John Morgan University of Alabama JP Morgan Chase Charles Schwab Disney World ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 244. Rex Elliott — Committed to Impact: Transforming Adversities into Opportunities 287. Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation 308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel…
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1 348. Ross Pomerantz. Sales, Sarcasm, and Success: Inside the Mind of Corporate Bro [Encore Edition] 58:11
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHave you considered that embracing authenticity might be the catalyst your law firm needs to accelerate growth and elevate your leadership impact? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with Ross Pomerantz — better known as the mastermind behind “Corporate Bro.” Known for his brutally honest and hilarious take on the sales world, Ross has built a massive following by turning everyday professional absurdities into viral gold. From his early days grinding in tech sales to becoming a content icon, Ross opens up about his relentless pursuit of creativity, the power of humor, and why staying true to yourself is your greatest competitive advantage. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why bringing humanity into professional environments fosters stronger cultures, deeper connections, and more authentic business practices Learn how persistence, consistency, and owning your unique voice can create long-term success — no matter the industry Understand why mastering sales is non-negotiable for growth, and how respecting this function can unlock massive opportunities for your firm Join Michael and Ross as they unpack how humor, authenticity, and relentless execution can reshape business norms, build unforgettable brands, and challenge outdated definitions of “professionalism.” Whether you're scaling a law firm or building your personal brand, this episode will leave you with the mindset and tools to stand out, lead boldly, and win. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:45 – From Baseball to Sales: Ross’s Unlikely Journey 09:22 – The Birth of Corporate Bro: Humor Meets Hustle 14:08 – Sadness as a Sales Philosophy 22:50 – Building a Brand Through Authenticity 30:17 – The Truth About Algorithms and Going Viral 38:55 – Walking the Line: Satire in a Hyper-Offended World 46:03 – Burnout, Mental Health, and Creative Longevity 52:49 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Ross ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta Braves Oracle Corporate Bro Dilbert comics Vine 8 Mile (film) Total Frat Move BroBible Brotopia by Emily Chang Larry Ellison Marc Benioff Madison Square Garden Software as a service (SaaS) ChatGPT Sweet James Duolingo DUDE Wipes Barstool Sports LeBron James Michael Jordan Golden State Warriors ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 211. Pat Flynn — Superfans: How to Stand Out, Grow Your Tribe, and Build a Successful Business 260. Robert Simon — The Superpower of Authenticity: Building Communities with Aligned Values 327. AMMA — The Secret to Growth: Trust, Talent, and Turning Reputation Into an Advantage…
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1 347. AMMA. Why Your Marketing Isn’t Working (And How to Fix It) 33:59
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat does it take to rise above the noise and become the firm that lands the game changing cases in an industry drowning in competition? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill explores the dynamic intersection of marketing and legal expertise, uncovering the strategies that law firm leaders need to thrive in a rapidly evolving world. As technological advancements continue to reshape how we operate, understanding the balance between innovation and traditional practices becomes crucial. Here’s what you’ll learn: How to capture the attention of potential clients through innovative marketing techniques that make your law firm stand out in a content-saturated market The importance of merging marketing prowess with legal expertise to ensure your skills are recognized and you're securing the best cases How to evaluate and optimize your online advertising strategies and intake processes to maximize conversions for sustainable and scalable growth Discover what it takes to not just survive, but dominate in your space. Push past limits, break through barriers, and lead your firm into a future filled with massive growth and opportunity. Whether you're an industry titan or an up-and-comer hungry to make your mark, this is where you get the tools, mindset, and strategies to turn vision into reality. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Why Best Known Beats Best: The Visibility Advantage 07:26 – Cutting Through the Noise: Standing Out in a Saturated Market 12:42 – The Role of Content: Engagement vs. Vanity Metrics 16:30 – Expertise vs. Attention: What Actually Drives Authority 20:45 – Social Media Strategies: How to Make Your Firm Impossible to Ignore 24:52 – Why More Budget Isn’t Always the Answer 29:14 – Measuring What Matters: Tracking Impact, Not Just Spend 33:29 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Tesla Powerwalls Starlink Call of Duty David Goggins Joe Rogan ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 280. Rory Vaden — Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding 215. Flo Rida — Industry Innovation, Commitment to Your Craft, and Hit-Making 333. AMMA — Win More High-Value Cases: How to Build a Brand Clients Trust…
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1 346. Why Losing Everything Was the Best Thing That Happened with James Amaro 48:05
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedCan the path to becoming a game-changing law firm be forged through tenacity and innovation in the face of adversity? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill welcomes James Amaro , Founder of the Amaro Law Firm and renowned trial attorney, to explore the journey from starting a practice to becoming a respected leader in the legal industry. James shares his experiences and insights on overcoming adversity, transforming a vision into reality, and fostering a culture of continuous growth and accountability. Here’s what you’ll learn: That navigating significant setbacks and treating each challenge as an opportunity are vital for growth and recovery in law firm management How implementing KPIs and SOPs can dramatically enhance a firm’s culture and profitability by emphasizing accountability and structured performance Why adapting new strategies, such as leveraging AI and focus groups, is essential for maintaining competitiveness and achieving excellence in legal practice From weathering the toughest storms to leveraging innovation in trial preparation, James Amaro exemplifies the power of perseverance and strategic evolution. Join us as we unpack these invaluable lessons to inspire your firm’s path to success. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 02:12 – Building a Law Firm from the Ground Up 06:45 – The Reality of Starting Over: Lessons from Setbacks 12:30 – Scaling from Solo to a Nationally Recognized Practice 17:22 – The Power of Mindset: How Resilience Defines Success 22:14 – Transforming a Law Practice into a Thriving Business 27:39 – Leadership, Accountability, and Building a High-Performance Culture 34:15 – The Role of Core Values and KPIs in Sustaining Growth 39:50 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Amaro Firm Hurricane Ike BP oil spill Peloton Biggie Smalls Tierra Del Fuego ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 264. Bill Perkins — Die with Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life 334. Dr. Benjamin Hardy — From Limiting Beliefs to Limitless Potential: A Guide to Personal Growth 304. AMMA — Creating a Culture of Success…
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1 345. AMMA. The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 27:44
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow can law firms ride the wave of AI innovation to transform their practice, outpace competitors, and deliver unparalleled legal services? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill delves into the rapidly evolving world of AI and its profound implications for the legal sector. As the legal industry stands on the brink of a technological revolution, understanding and integrating AI can position law firms at the forefront of innovation. Here’s what you’ll learn: How AI innovation is accelerating at an unprecedented pace, with tech giants competing to push boundaries and approach artificial general intelligence Why experimenting with AI tools like ChatGPT and DeepSeek is crucial for discovering new opportunities and gaining competitive advantages The balance between leveraging AI for efficiency in transactional tasks and maintaining the human touch in areas like relationship building and strategic decision-making By embracing AI, law firms can enhance their efficiency, broaden their service capabilities, and focus on high-value strategic work that only humans can do best. This episode is your guide to understanding how AI can be integrated into your practice, creating a seamless blend of technology and human expertise to drive your firm’s success into the future. Join us to explore how you can leverage AI to redefine your legal practice and ensure your firm remains a formidable competitor in an ever-evolving landscape. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – The Rapid Evolution of AI and Its Competitive Landscape 07:45 – Cutting Through the Noise: Identifying AI Tools That Matter 12:32 – Experimentation and Curiosity: The Key to AI Adoption 17:09 – AI vs. Human-Driven Work: Finding the Right Balance 22:47 – The Future of Law Firms: Efficiency, Automation, and Strategic Work 28:15 – How AI is Reshaping Legal Services and Client Expectations 32:50 – The Truth About AI Replacing Lawyers: What’s Actually Changing 38:10 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: ChatGPT Deep Seek Elon Musk Grok Three Anthropic Gemini Satya Nadella Tesla ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 321. Kyle Bachus — Harnessing Technology for Legal Success [Encore Edition] 289. John Morgan — Grow or Die: The Mindset of a Champion [Encore Edition] 194. AMMA — The Harsh Truth About Entrepreneurial Success…
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1 344. Scott Monge. Beyond the Billboards: Crafting a Standout Legal Brand [Encore Edition] 30:56
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedIs the key to your law firm’s sustained growth found in the power of strategic marketing and an unwavering commitment to client service? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with Scott Monge, Founder and CEO of Monge & Associates , to unpack the strategies behind building a thriving law firm through bold marketing investments and a relentless focus on client experience. Scott shares his insights on taking calculated risks, fostering a client-centered culture, and continuously innovating to stand out in a crowded legal market. Here’s what you’ll learn: Strategic marketing and branding, including bold advertising investments, are pivotal for firm growth and maintaining a competitive edge Focusing on exceptional client service through personalized experiences and gratitude initiatives helps create strong, positive client rapport and differentiates the firm in the market Embracing risks and learning from failures are essential for success, highlighting the importance of perseverance and constant innovation for personal and professional growth Scott Monge’s journey is a testament to the impact of resilience, strategic branding, and delivering an unparalleled level of service. Tune in to discover how these principles can redefine success and position your firm for long-term industry dominance. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:14 – The Mindset Shift That Took Scott Monge to the Next Level 07:29 – Scaling a Law Firm: Lessons in Growth and Leadership 12:45 – The Importance of Culture and Team Buy-In 16:38 – Marketing Strategies That Drive Real Results 21:12 – Handling Challenges: How to Adapt and Overcome 26:05 – Building Systems That Sustain Long-Term Success 30:42 – The Role of Client Experience in Business Growth 35:18 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Thomas Edison Jim Collins Richard Branson Ken Hardison ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 296. Creating a Competitive Edge: Lessons in Legal Leadership 262. Roland Frasier — The Secret to Scale: How to Grow Your Business [Encore Edition] 308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel…
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1 343. AMMA. No Courage, No Progress: Why Hesitation Is Costing You Big 22:15
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedCould the secret to your law firm's breakthrough success be hidden in the art of prioritizing challenges and effectively leveraging resources? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill opens the dialogue on the relentless journey of leading a law firm and the mindset shifts necessary for success. Get ready to challenge your current practices and discover why sometimes, it takes stepping back and reassessing your approach to break through to the next level. Here's what you'll learn: Strategies for problem-solving that can turn challenges into opportunities for innovation and resilience The importance of taking action despite fear, making bold moves to avoid stagnation and ensure progress in your firm How to leverage resources like automation, delegation, and technology to maximize growth By adopting a mindset focused on continuous problem-solving and bold action, law firms can not only overcome their current limitations but also set the stage for dynamic growth. Embrace these principles to foster innovation, enhance productivity, and establish your firm as a powerhouse of efficiency and forward-thinking leadership. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 04:23 – Why Growth Means Constant Problem-Solving 06:40 – Prioritizing Problems to Unlock Growth 09:19 – The Real Reason You’re Afraid to Make Bold Moves 12:24 – Taking Action Before You Feel Ready 13:25 – Why Hard Work Alone Won’t Scale Your Firm 16:34 – Leveraging People and Technology to Break Through 18:40 – Shifting from Time Economy to Results Economy 21:05 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: ChatGPT Claude Gemini ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 259. David Craig — How to Build a Law Firm That Stands the Test of Time 246. AMMA — From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Key Differences Between Winners and Losers…
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1 342. The Missing Piece to Peak Performance with David Kolbe 53:16
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedWhat if the key to unlocking your law firm’s full potential wasn’t in the resumes you review but in understanding how your team is instinctively wired to take action? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill is joined by David Kolbe , CEO of Kolbe Corp and a thought leader in conative assessments. David shares his journey from the legal field to becoming an influential figure in helping organizations understand and harness instinctive strengths through the Kolbe assessment. The discussion dives into his insights on team dynamics, revealing the potential of both professional success and personal satisfaction by understanding one's inherent strengths. Here's what you'll learn: How understanding conative strengths through the Kolbe assessment can lead to increased productivity and job satisfaction Why aligning team roles with natural inclinations reduces burnout and enhances overall firm efficiency and growth How leveraging Kolbe insights can improve both professional relationships and personal dynamics, leading to more harmonious and effective interactions This episode holds the game plan for building a cohesive, motivated, and insanely effective team — the kind of team that doesn’t just help you grow, but helps you dominate your market. Want to learn more about Kolbe ? Email coach@crisp.co to learn more! ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 02:26 – David Kolbe’s Journey from Lawyer to CEO 04:52 – Understanding Kolbe and the Three Parts of the Mind 09:56 – Are Your Strengths Innate or Learned? 12:48 – How Kolbe Transforms Hiring and Team Building 18:14 – Using Kolbe to Strengthen Personal Relationships 25:03 – Avoiding Burnout by Aligning Work with Your Strengths 31:33 – Leveraging Kolbe to Drive Firm Growth 46:22 – Final Thoughts and What It Means to Be a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: Kolbe Myers-Briggs (MBTI) DiSC Predictive Index LSAT SAT EOS Florencе Mykonos AI ChatGPT ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 328. Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Transform Your Business with Bold, People-First Leadership 251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership…
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1 341. The Real Reason Your Firm Isn’t Scaling — And It’s Not What You Think 24:51
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow can law firm leaders effectively navigate hiring, talent retention, and leadership empowerment to drive firm success? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill discusses recurring challenges and opportunities in building a high-performing law firm team. Drawing from personal anecdotes and extensive experiences managing a successful business, he delves into the nuances of refining hiring processes, strategically competing with larger firms, and fostering a culture that empowers team members to solve complex problems independently. Here's what you'll learn: Why refining the hiring process can ensure the right talent aligns with firm needs How smaller law firms can compete for top talent by emphasizing growth opportunities and unique roles Why empowering teams to solve problems independently fosters a culture of autonomy and scalability For law firm leaders, embracing these strategies isn't just about growing their teams; it's about setting the foundation for sustainable success and creating an environment conducive to innovation and execution. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Why Most Law Firms Keep Hiring the Wrong People 06:29 – The Danger of Hiring Based on Interviews Alone 09:34 – Execution vs. Strategy: What Your Firm Actually Needs 13:13 – How to Compete for Top Talent Without the Biggest Budget 16:54 – The Hidden Advantage of Smaller Firms in Hiring 18:04 – Why Having More Employees Doesn’t Mean Less Work for You 20:57 – The Importance of Problem-Solving in a Growing Firm 23:57 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta SaaS (Software as a Service) MacBook NVIDIA YouTube Spotify Apple Podcasts Tesla ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 286. AMMA — Innovate, Don't Imitate: Handling Competitors, Critics, and Copycats 301. Michael Cowen — Investing in Legal Excellence: Training, Tools, and Team Building 262. Roland Frasier — The Secret to Scale: How to Grow Your Business [Encore Edition]…
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1 340. The Risk That Nearly Broke His Firm — Jay Kelley’s $100M Branding Playbook [Encore Edition] 44:30
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedHow can attorneys integrate leadership, strategy, and branding to build a thriving firm? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill sits down with Jay Kelley , managing partner of Elk + Elk, to explore how one of Ohio's largest personal injury firms has evolved and flourished. Jay shares his unconventional journey into law, drawing from an early love of persuasive speaking he discovered through acting, and how this unique background has shaped his approach to becoming a trial attorney. Here's what you'll learn: How transformative life experiences can shape your practice and lead you to a fulfilling legal career The importance of building a firm culture that is both collaborative and capable of handling serious, complex cases Why strategic brand building and community engagement are crucial for long-term success in the legal industry Law firm leaders who truly want to elevate their impact need to go beyond just winning cases — they need to transform their firms from the inside out. This isn't just about marketing strategies or business development — it’s about embodying authenticity, perseverance, and a relentless commitment to growth. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – Jay Kelley's Journey: From Prosecutor to Plaintiff’s Attorney 05:55 – The Power of Listening in the Courtroom 07:35 – Finding Purpose in Medical Malpractice Cases 09:07 – Balancing Being a Trial Attorney and a Law Firm Business Leader 12:46 – Branding a Law Firm: Standing Out in a Competitive Market 17:45 – Community Involvement and Brand Recall Strategies 25:50 – The Difference Between Brand Recall and Credibility 31:52 – Transitioning a Law Firm’s Leadership and Legacy 42:56 – What It Means to Be a Game-Changing Attorney ---- Links & Resources: The Abbey Theatre Arthur M. Elk David J. Elk Cincinnati Reds Columbus Blue Jackets Cleveland Browns USO Dr. Kirk Wakefield Siri John P. O’Neil ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 174 — Joey Coleman — Never Lose a Client Again: Creating Memorable Experiences to Gain an Advocate for Life Episode 137 — Camille Vasquez — Authenticity is the Advantage Episode 119 — Jo-Ná Williams — The Entrepreneurial Attorney: Achieving Freedom by Serving Others…
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1 339. AMMA — The Growth Blueprint: What It Takes to Build a 7, 8, and 9-Figure Law Firm 31:12
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Play Later Play Later Lists Like LikedNavigating your law firm's growth journey becomes feasible when equipped with insights drawn from real-world experiences. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast , Michael Mogill delves into the realities of scaling a law firm across various stages of growth. He unpacks the challenges and triumphs encountered on the path from six to nine figures, offering a roadmap for legal entrepreneurs determined to propel their firms to new heights. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why delegating tasks that aren’t within your expertise can create the capacity needed to break through the early growth stages The importance of implementing repeatable systems and processes that ensure quality in service delivery Why evolving your leadership skills and nurturing a strong company culture are essential components for expansion With these insights, law firm owners can elevate their practices beyond just case management, building a legacy marked by innovation, empowerment, and continued advancement in the legal field. This isn't just about managing your practice – it's about redefining your potential and igniting your firm’s growth trajectory. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – The Reality of Law Firm Growth: Why It’s Harder Than You Think 05:51 – The Truth About Scaling: No Silver Bullet, Only Systems 09:21 – Breaking Through Six Figures: Grit, Capacity, and Delegation 14:55 – The Seven-Figure Struggle: Leadership, Hiring, and Culture 19:34 – The Pain of Scaling: Outgrowing Systems and Processes 24:38 – The Path to Eight Figures and Beyond: Leadership Overhaul 27:06 – The Road to Nine Figures: Rebuilding, Risk, and Relentless Growth 30:17 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta Game Changers Summit S&P 500 ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify . Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel . ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 261 — AMMA — The X Factor of Legal Market Domination Episode 320 — John Morgan — Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality Episode 333 — AMMA — Win More High-Value Cases: How to Build a Brand Clients Trust…
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